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Genocet_10-325
02/21/18 1:44:46 PM
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https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2521

Even with gerrymandering, 15 points is enough for them to pick up around 40 to 50 seats. They only need 24 for a majority.
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Genocet_10-325
02/21/18 1:47:44 PM
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Muffinz0rz
02/21/18 1:48:26 PM
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why did you up your topic literally less than 3 mins of it being posted
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voldothegr8
02/21/18 1:48:31 PM
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Remember when Hillary was 90% to win? LOL polls.
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Antifar
02/21/18 1:49:31 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Remember when Hillary was 90% to win? LOL polls.

If I told you had a 90% chance of surviving the next 24 hours, would you take those odds?
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Genocet_10-325
02/21/18 1:50:44 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Remember when Hillary was 90% to win? LOL polls.

Hillary had a 2% lead in the polls and she won the popular vote by 2%
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StucklnMyPants
02/21/18 1:50:56 PM
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*Thinks back to the 2016 polls*
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Genocet_10-325
02/21/18 1:51:30 PM
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StucklnMyPants posted...
*Thinks back to the 2016 polls*

Genocet_10-325 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Remember when Hillary was 90% to win? LOL polls.

Hillary had a 2% lead in the polls and she won the popular vote by 2%

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BLAKUboy
02/21/18 1:52:07 PM
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StucklnMyPants posted...
*Thinks back to the 2016 polls*

The polls that were well within the margin of error you mean?
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voldothegr8
02/21/18 1:55:03 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Remember when Hillary was 90% to win? LOL polls.

Hillary had a 2% lead in the polls and she won the popular vote by 2%

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/
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Genocet_10-325
02/21/18 1:56:10 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Remember when Hillary was 90% to win? LOL polls.

Hillary had a 2% lead in the polls and she won the popular vote by 2%

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/


A 28% chance is still over 1 in 4.
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southcoast09
02/21/18 1:56:34 PM
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Lol
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Antifar
02/21/18 1:57:24 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Remember when Hillary was 90% to win? LOL polls.

Hillary had a 2% lead in the polls and she won the popular vote by 2%

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

.286 would be a very respectable batting average in baseball, only some sort of innumerate moron would pretend that player had no chance of getting a hit.
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KingCrabCake
02/21/18 1:58:42 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
why did you up your topic literally less than 3 mins of it being posted

StucklnMyPants posted...
*Thinks back to the 2016 polls*

voldothegr8 posted...
Remember when Hillary was 90% to win? LOL polls.

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Balrog0
02/21/18 1:59:30 PM
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Antifar posted...
.286 would be a very respectable batting average in baseball, only some sort of innumerate moron would pretend that player had no chance of getting a hit.


I always think about one of my fellow interns who worked for the professor that was responsible for the huffpost's polling averages

he would constantly bitch about how nate silver was misleading people into thinking Trump had more of a chance than he did. I think huffpost at one point had Trump as low as 1% though I dont know if that was his final score

lol
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KingCrabCake
02/21/18 2:01:07 PM
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Antifar posted...

.286 would be a very respectable batting average in baseball, only some sort of innumerate moron would pretend that player had no chance of getting a hit.

.286 average would be horrible in basketball
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Genocet_10-325
02/21/18 2:02:17 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
Antifar posted...

.286 would be a very respectable batting average in baseball, only some sort of innumerate moron would pretend that player had no chance of getting a hit.

.286 average would be horrible in basketball

538 had it at 28% Trump 73% Hillary in terms of chance of winning. You recognize that a 28% chance is still a pretty decent chance do you not?
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voldothegr8
02/21/18 2:03:55 PM
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LOL why are liberals trying to compare poll results with baseball stats?
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Genocet_10-325
02/21/18 2:04:44 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
LOL why are liberals trying to compare poll results with baseball stats?

So are you saying 28% chance to win is actually 0?
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Antifar
02/21/18 2:09:06 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
LOL why are liberals trying to compare poll results with baseball stats?

The projections made by 538 and outlets like NYT and Huffpo are not poll results; they're based on formulas that take aggregated poll results into account.

A poll =/= a polling average =/= a projection

Probability is probability. FiveThirtyEight gave Trump a 28.6% chance of winning, which is equivalent to a .286 hitter's chance of getting a hit in any given at bat. It's about 2 in 7
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Genocet_10-325
02/21/18 2:10:53 PM
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Antifar posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
LOL why are liberals trying to compare poll results with baseball stats?

The projections made by 538 and outlets like NYT and Huffpo are not poll results; they're based on formulas that take aggregated poll results into account.

A poll =/= a polling average =/= a projection

Probability is probability. FiveThirtyEight gave Trump a 28.6% chance of winning, which is equivalent to a .286 hitter's chance of getting a hit in any given at bat. It's about 2 in 7


I think they think the 72\28 was supposed to be an actual poll and not a % chance to win, lol
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KingCrabCake
02/21/18 2:11:43 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Antifar posted...

.286 would be a very respectable batting average in baseball, only some sort of innumerate moron would pretend that player had no chance of getting a hit.

.286 average would be horrible in basketball

538 had it at 28% Trump 73% Hillary in terms of chance of winning. You recognize that a 28% chance is still a pretty decent chance do you not?


I was making fun of the poster who used a baseball analogy....not sure how you didnt catch that
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KingCrabCake
02/21/18 2:12:31 PM
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Antifar posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
LOL why are liberals trying to compare poll results with baseball stats?

The projections made by 538 and outlets like NYT and Huffpo are not poll results; they're based on formulas that take aggregated poll results into account.

A poll =/= a polling average =/= a projection

Probability is probability. FiveThirtyEight gave Trump a 28.6% chance of winning, which is equivalent to a .286 hitter's chance of getting a hit in any given at bat. It's about 2 in 7


But thats horrible in basketball. Such a bad analogy
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The Great Muta 22
02/21/18 2:14:18 PM
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No need to look at polling anymore, actual election results are showing that Democrats are likely to take the House come Novemeber
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Genocet_10-325
02/21/18 2:15:35 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
No need to look at polling anymore, actual election results are showing that Democrats are likely to take the House come Novemeber

Lol if you ask the Republicans on CE they say Democrats have 0 chance. @r4X0r comes to mind
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Antifar
02/21/18 2:15:40 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
But thats horrible in basketball. Such a bad analogy


Yes, in basketball you would want a player who shoots better than .286 from the floor. But that player would still be hitting more than one out of every four shots. Better than I could do. Kobe shot .250 in Game 7 against the Celtics in 2010.

In football, you would want a QB with better than 28.6% completion. But the probability is the exact same.
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KingCrabCake
02/21/18 2:25:38 PM
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Antifar posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
But thats horrible in basketball. Such a bad analogy


Yes, in basketball you would want a player who shoots better than .286 from the floor. But that player would still be hitting more than one out of every four shots. Better than I could do. Kobe shot .250 in Game 7 against the Celtics in 2010.

In football, you would want a QB with better than 28.6% completion. But the probability is the exact same.


Exactly its all about context.
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Anteaterking
02/21/18 2:27:19 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
Exactly its all about context.


No one is saying that in the abstract 28% is good or bad. We're just talking about how likely it is.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
02/21/18 2:30:07 PM
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Cool but we need people to actually fucking vote in the midterms instead of spending more energy coming up with excuses.
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The Great Muta 22
02/21/18 2:30:45 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...
No need to look at polling anymore, actual election results are showing that Democrats are likely to take the House come Novemeber

Lol if you ask the Republicans on CE they say Democrats have 0 chance. @r4X0r comes to mind


As you said the other day, let them feel that way. Things like the mass exodus of Republicans retiring early, actual election votes resulting in Democrats flipping places for the first time in forever and over preforming across the board, and Congressmen like Scott Walker freaking out on Twitter pleading his followers to go vote mean a hell of a lot more than "muh fake polls"
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The Admiral
02/21/18 2:30:59 PM
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A batting average in baseball is not predictive, so the comparison is horrendous. Actual chance of a hit in any particular at-bat is highly situational.
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Anteaterking
02/21/18 2:35:57 PM
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The Admiral posted...
A batting average in baseball is not predictive, so the comparison is horrendous. Actual chance of a hit in any particular at-bat is highly situational.


The 1/6 chance of rolling a 6 on a die is not predictive, so the comparison is horrendous. Actual chance of rolling a 6 on any particular roll is highly situational.

Someone's current batting average is still modeling the latent true batting percentage that they have projected over a range of different batting situations. How do you see something like a prediction of who is winning an election any more innate and not an estimate of a candidate's "true chances" than someone's batting average?
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The Admiral
02/21/18 2:37:35 PM
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A 1-in-6 chance absolutely is predictive. What's not predictive is saying you rolled six 1's in a row. That's your historical performance, same as batting average.
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Antifar
02/21/18 2:37:46 PM
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The Admiral posted...
A batting average in baseball is not predictive, so the comparison is horrendous. Actual chance of a hit in any particular at-bat is highly situational.

Right; it's a bit different. It'd be equivalent to picking a past at-bat at random, and not a future one.
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EnragedSlith
02/21/18 2:39:23 PM
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I could potentially see Trump and a blue congress accomplishing a lot of they can get past the Russia scandal. POTENTIALLY

Mind you, he used to be a democrat
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Tyranthraxus
02/21/18 2:39:27 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
Someone's current batting average is still modeling the latent true batting percentage that they have projected over a range of different batting situations. How do you see something like a prediction of who is winning an election any more innate and not an estimate of a candidate's "true chances" than someone's batting average?

A batting average is just historical data. Actual chance to hit depends on the skill and current fatigue level of the pitcher.

The left/right handedness of the players is also a huge factor.. it's nothing at all like rolling a die or bowling average.
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Questionmarktarius
02/21/18 2:39:51 PM
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Good. Let's get back to deadlock in Washington.
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KingCrabCake
02/21/18 2:49:47 PM
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CrimsonRage posted...
itt conservatives who failed Statistics in school


Itt liberals who make shit analogies
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KingCrabCake
02/21/18 2:50:20 PM
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Sparksfanboy posted...
Bye bye Trumpie


Yes in 7 years
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Genocet_10-325
02/21/18 2:50:35 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Good. Let's get back to deadlock in Washington.


Only until 2020.
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KingCrabCake
02/21/18 2:55:59 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Good. Let's get back to deadlock in Washington.


Only until 2020.


Trump is winning in 2020
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Giant_Aspirin
02/21/18 2:57:03 PM
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don't get overconfident. never forget 2016.
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SomeonesAlt
02/21/18 2:57:24 PM
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KingCrabCake posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Good. Let's get back to deadlock in Washington.


Only until 2020.


Trump is winning in 2020

The Democrats could put up almost anyone but Hillary and beat him. He's historically unpopular and has a massive disapproval rating countrywide.
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Giant_Aspirin
02/21/18 3:00:45 PM
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SomeonesAlt posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Good. Let's get back to deadlock in Washington.


Only until 2020.


Trump is winning in 2020

The Democrats could put up almost anyone but Hillary and beat him. He's historically unpopular and has a massive disapproval rating countrywide.


you're arguing with a brick wall. nothing you can say will change KCC's mind about his confidence in Agent Orange.
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SomeonesAlt
02/21/18 3:03:29 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
SomeonesAlt posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Good. Let's get back to deadlock in Washington.


Only until 2020.


Trump is winning in 2020

The Democrats could put up almost anyone but Hillary and beat him. He's historically unpopular and has a massive disapproval rating countrywide.


you're arguing with a brick wall. nothing you can say will change KCC's mind about his confidence in Agent Orange.

Eh, Jerseyproud is actually one of the more reasonable Trump supporters. He's not a cultist and calls out Trump when he doesn't like what he's saying rather than breaking his back bending over like the other ones on here do.
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KingCrabCake
02/21/18 3:03:44 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
SomeonesAlt posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
Good. Let's get back to deadlock in Washington.


Only until 2020.


Trump is winning in 2020

The Democrats could put up almost anyone but Hillary and beat him. He's historically unpopular and has a massive disapproval rating countrywide.


you're arguing with a brick wall. nothing you can say will change KCC's mind about his confidence in Agent Orange.


Its actually my lack of confidence in the democrats. So shut the fuck up buddy
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02/21/18 3:05:27 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
A batting average is just historical data. Actual chance to hit depends on the skill and current fatigue level of the pitcher.

The left/right handedness of the players is also a huge factor.. it's nothing at all like rolling a die or bowling average.


I mean, we can start listing the physical parameters that lend themselves to a particular outcome of a die roll.
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