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| Topic | Male uber drivers make more than female drivers with gender blind algorithm |
| Anteaterking 02/12/18 3:25:13 PM #50 | s0nicfan posted... Ehh... that's fair. Although I think you're under-emphasizing the importance of "sabotage" in classification, since ANY classification algorithm that uses DL or NN would be susceptible to abuse. I was speaking more from experience where its getting harder to sell customers on ML as a solution because of stories like those, and if the money dries up so does the research in that area. I just don't think your concern about "feminism in ML" is well founded. We have laws against certain types of discrimination in this country, so it makes sense that we don't give companies carte blanche to say "I'm not being discriminatory, the blind algorithm is!" for making decisions that we wouldn't let a human make. I don't think it really applies to the detriment of Uber here. I'm just saying, if your takeaway from this is "See, I guess there isn't structural bias in our society" but if the reason women are working less is because of societal pressures to be the person who "gives up their career" to take care of children or if they are leaving the service because of sexual harassment by customers, that doesn't erase bias, it just means it isn't at the feet of a sexist boss. --- |
| Topic | Male uber drivers make more than female drivers with gender blind algorithm |
| Anteaterking 02/12/18 3:08:44 PM #47 | s0nicfan posted... Anteaterking posted...s0nicfan posted...The very last thing we need is "feminism in machine learning." ML is already on the verge of collapse (again) after like a 30 year hiatus. Having to weave politics into it will nuke it entirely for another few decades. I think you're vastly oversimplifying the field to think that all or even most of machine learning is in image recognition or on data sets where such "sabotage" is a concern. --- |
| Topic | Male uber drivers make more than female drivers with gender blind algorithm |
| Anteaterking 02/12/18 3:02:21 PM #43 | s0nicfan posted... The very last thing we need is "feminism in machine learning." ML is already on the verge of collapse (again) after like a 30 year hiatus. Having to weave politics into it will nuke it entirely for another few decades. What are you talking about. Machine learning is not on the verge of collapse. --- |
| Topic | Reddit and porn streaming site bans deepfake videos. |
| Anteaterking 02/12/18 2:59:30 PM #17 | Tropicalwood posted... Anteaterking posted...Milkman5 posted...why tho? I don't. Are you just saying because licensed videos get posted for free all the time? I was under the impression that a certain amount of that was actually done by those companies in an attempt to hook prospective customers. --- |
| Topic | Male uber drivers make more than female drivers with gender blind algorithm |
| Anteaterking 02/12/18 2:57:56 PM #41 | I don't think that Uber needs to change anything about their payment plan. As far as the company is concerned, the interesting question for them might be "Why do more women choose to stop driving for us?". My friend is a part-time Lyft driver, and if I were in her shoes, I definitely would have stopped driving based on how terrible some of her customers sound. I think this does indicate something that's important to me especially with regards to blind algorithms or machine learning, which is that an algorithm is only as blind as the data that goes into it. --- |
| Topic | Reddit and porn streaming site bans deepfake videos. |
| Anteaterking 02/12/18 2:36:05 PM #3 | Milkman5 posted... why tho? Well for one, usually someone's infringing on the copyright of the porn that was used as the backdrop. --- |
| Topic | Should this user be banned for being a pedo? |
| Anteaterking 02/12/18 11:43:46 AM #31 | fenderbender321 posted... Never heard anyone outside the internet say anything other than "She's kinda young, but whatever floats your boat." Usually it was the "trashy" girls who had boyfriends 10+ years older than them in high school. There are definitely negative connotations. --- |
| Topic | do u think gaming will ever hit a point where the writing isn't embarrassing af |
| Anteaterking 02/12/18 11:32:46 AM #25 | Balrog0 posted... why can't board games use beautiful word smithing like poetry? The Ticket to Ride instructions didn't have an engaging enough backstory for me to truly immerse myself. --- |
| Topic | Should this user be banned for being a pedo? |
| Anteaterking 02/12/18 11:21:25 AM #4 | It's above the age of consent where he lives. --- |
| Topic | A plane crashed in Russia, and the conspiracy theorists are ON IT |
| Anteaterking 02/12/18 11:20:22 AM #2 | Russia's not even that sneaky about assassinating people, so there's no reason to believe that they would down a plane for one person (if they had been on it). --- |
| Topic | if piracy = "theft" of potential revenue |
| Anteaterking 02/11/18 6:23:47 PM #32 | Dustin1280 posted... Anteaterking posted...WTF happened to your post Dustin: No, it was just for one instance of the page. --- |
| Topic | Let's be real, chess really isn't that complicated |
| Anteaterking 02/11/18 6:23:11 PM #13 | ArchiePeck posted... I mean, it's not like there are more combinations of moves in a game of chess then there are believed to be atoms in the universe, or anything... I'm not disagreeing with your general premise (chess has more depth than things listed in OP), but there are more than Shannon's number (~1.2*10^176) singleton 60 card MTG decks, let alone if we allow for other deck configurations. Even if you fix two decks, there are 10^163 ways for those decks to be ordered. That doesn't mean there's more depth though, because we can make rough equivalences between decks, games, etc. and human tendencies that limits the space of actual play. Chess isn't deep because there are lots of possible sequences of moves. It's deep because of the topology of the sequences of moves: At any given time there are lots of LEGITIMATE choices available. --- |
| Topic | if piracy = "theft" of potential revenue |
| Anteaterking 02/11/18 3:55:33 PM #28 | |
| Topic | if piracy = "theft" of potential revenue |
| Anteaterking 02/11/18 3:15:12 PM #11 | Enjoying something without paying for it =/= not being told to buy something. --- |
| Topic | Did Patton Oswalt kill his wife? |
| Anteaterking 02/11/18 3:01:55 PM #20 | Doom_Art posted... Real talk this is a disturbingly common theory among the alt right To what end? --- |
| Topic | My 401(k) has plummeted this week |
| Anteaterking 02/10/18 12:58:34 AM #16 | How were you feeling December of last year about your 401(k)? Were you thinking "I'll never be able to retire with this money!" --- |
| Topic | Trump to not release Democrat Memo |
| Anteaterking 02/09/18 9:10:19 PM #19 | StucklnMyPants posted... So like, Gowdy just dictated to Nunes? Seems kind of silly to write a summary on something you haven't actually read for yourself. His pages read it and wrote the draft of the memo. --- |
| Topic | Childhood is thinking making $5,596 a month is a lot |
| Anteaterking 02/09/18 8:40:09 PM #149 | FLUFFYGERM posted... Anteaterking posted...2. Being able to max out your retirement contributions is a luxury. I'm not saying it's rich. I'm just saying that starting your argument with "Look, after those things I don't have much money left" is already removing things that your average person doesn't have. While being more fiscally responsible than saying "Greens fees: _____", it's still not part of your cost of living. Personally, I put well off below rich/wealthy, and I would say that any upper middle class/upper class person is well off. --- |
| Topic | Trump to not release Democrat Memo |
| Anteaterking 02/09/18 8:29:58 PM #8 | StucklnMyPants posted... I heard about Gowdy and Nunes reading through it Nunes explicitly had not read it. --- |
| Topic | Childhood is thinking making $5,596 a month is a lot |
| Anteaterking 02/09/18 8:29:09 PM #144 | SuperGamer5 posted... but it's definitely not the "easy mode" I thought it would be This has more to do with expectations than reality though. You're in the 62ndish percentile of household income in Minneapolis from just one income. Like, I wouldn't call $72k a year rich by any means (or $66k in your case), but a majority of people in your city get by with more than $10k less. I think part of the problem with people in this topic and the earlier one today is that: 1. Having (or being) a non-working spouse is a luxury. 2. Being able to max out your retirement contributions is a luxury. etc. These might be things that are personal goals for you and the second is advisable if you can manage it, but they are luxuries. --- |
| Topic | What time signature is this? [Music] |
| Anteaterking 02/09/18 8:14:25 PM #11 | I've definitely played orchestra passages where this would be denoted as 3/4 + 3/4 + 2/4 for emphasis, but there's an underlying 4/4 feel. --- |
| Topic | Reminder: If you are between the ages of 13 and 36 you are a millennial. |
| Anteaterking 02/09/18 8:11:00 PM #16 | 36 seems too old. I thought the whole point was being younger when the millenium change happened. --- |
| Topic | Trump to not release Democrat Memo |
| Anteaterking 02/09/18 8:04:36 PM #1 | |
| Topic | Childhood is thinking making $5,596 a month is a lot |
| Anteaterking 02/09/18 7:59:31 PM #138 | Romes187 posted... I really wanna see pics of Covxy. Found one: https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/rich-man-posing-with-money-bags-and-dollar-bills-picture-id171271536 --- |
| Topic | why do americans hate unions |
| Anteaterking 02/09/18 7:33:07 PM #10 | Because people like all of the benefits that come from the union, but not any of the negative parts. --- |
| Topic | people on ce literally think 100k is rich? |
| Anteaterking 02/09/18 6:34:39 PM #124 | andel posted... there is a difference between living comfortable with some luxury and being rich I think you're again throwing around weasel words again to try to downplay your financial status. What does "some luxury" mean? What luxuries are you lacking that you think would make the difference between you being rich versus just living comfortably? --- |
| Topic | people on ce literally think 100k is rich? |
| Anteaterking 02/09/18 3:14:33 PM #117 | andel posted... i am not rich. if i can maintain this income level for a long time while saving i could maybe one day be rich, but that i can't retire or suddenly stop working You're in the 90th percentile or higher for HOUSEHOLD income in Mississippi as an individual. I think you're letting being rich be defined too much by how much hard cash you have this second. There are very few salaries where people could just retire after getting it for five years. --- |
| Topic | Why don't you just date a woman who is just as intelligent as you? |
| Anteaterking 02/09/18 12:30:04 PM #6 | My girlfriend is smarter than me. --- |
| Topic | people on ce literally think 100k is rich? |
| Anteaterking 02/09/18 12:29:28 PM #74 | Some people have this dumb view of "barely scraping by" meaning owning a house, maxing out your retirement contributions, paying all of your utilities/car payments/etc., putting away a certain amount of savings, and "only" having a few thousand left each month after you're done. --- |
| Topic | Does it bother anyone that Black Panther is basically pro-Trump propaganda? |
| Anteaterking 02/09/18 11:49:27 AM #9 | It feels like this article has been posted four times this week. --- |
| Topic | Jordan Peterson MGTOW Bitcoin Tide Pods Trump Trump Trump |
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| Topic | Jordan Peterson "Can men and women work together in the workplace?" |
| Anteaterking 02/08/18 10:55:49 PM #169 | s0nicfan posted... Well there's Bill Nye's "Sex Junk" episode where he argues that gender is on a spectrum. He actually goes beyond the binary which is critical in justifying things like gender neutral pronouns. I don't think you understand the request. Your first example is someone giving scientific evidence for transgenderism. The second is about misgendering, which is distinctly different than "We should refer to everyone by gender neutral pronouns". We're comparing this to someone trying to claim that Mendelian inheritance shows we should clean our room. --- |
| Topic | DOW down another 1000 points today, Trump still silent |
| Anteaterking 02/08/18 4:50:52 PM #11 | While I don't think that the volatility we see now is due to Trump (outside of it being oversold in expectation of policies), he was stupid enough to tie the stock market to his success, so... --- |
| Topic | Jordan Peterson "Can men and women work together in the workplace?" |
| Anteaterking 02/08/18 4:21:16 PM #100 | s0nicfan posted... Like hell they're not What science do people cite for using gender neutral pronouns? Scientific evidence for transgenderism isn't the same thing. --- |
| Topic | Former WoW players - where did the game start going wrong? |
| Anteaterking 02/08/18 4:19:20 PM #21 | I stopped playing during TBC, so this is mostly motivated by my own experiences, but I think it has a lot to do with the pre-max level grind getting less interesting/quicker. That just means that anyone left behind by raiding at any point ends up having little to do in the game. I tried out Vanilla WoW recently, and there's only so many times you can run some of those dungeons for pre-raid gear without actually wanting to commit to a raiding schedule. --- |
| Topic | Jordan Peterson "Can men and women work together in the workplace?" |
| Anteaterking 02/08/18 4:14:48 PM #97 | s0nicfan posted... The problem is you can also make the same "just because it feels right doesn't mean it is" argument against any argument for social change. When it comes to things like, say, gender neutral pronouns, the narrative is "It'll be good for everyone just trust us" and that argument holds as much objective weight as any other. The only evidence used in these cases is historical evidence, because it would be unethical to screw around with people just to test a hypothesis. But the people who push for gender neutral pronouns don't pretend like they are giving a scientific argument for it. --- |
| Topic | Currently pulled over because my seat belt was on, but not across my chest. |
| Anteaterking 02/08/18 4:13:27 PM #50 | In this situation, any argument for or against you getting a ticket in this situation is just as valid of an argument for or against getting a ticket for not wearing your seatbelt, so idk what the point of arguing it is. --- |
| Topic | What do you think the difference between altright and right wing is? |
| Anteaterking 02/08/18 4:10:06 PM #7 | When the phrase originated, I thought of it as conservatism which wasn't motivated by either fiscal conservative values or religion. A populist form of conservatism that was more centered in nationalism and things of that nature. --- |
| Topic | Jordan Peterson "Can men and women work together in the workplace?" |
| Anteaterking 02/08/18 4:06:18 PM #94 | clearaflagrantj posted... COVxy posted...for example, the circadian rhythm is probably the best example of a conserved mechanism across species, but nobody sees Jordan Peterson talking about circadian rhythms because it doesn't provide some sort of satisfying lay understanding of behavior I think he's saying that Jordan decides what his conclusion is and then shoehorns evolutionary biology into it which is why you never see him support arguments invoking evolutionary biology with established conserved mechanisms, because those tend to lend themselves to the other direction, conclusions coming from established facts. --- |
| Topic | Daenerys Targaryen's emotional support dragons banned from United Airlines |
| Anteaterking 02/08/18 2:36:19 PM #3 | Bagamak posted... I was sad when --- |
| Topic | Emotional support hamster flushed down toilet after Spirir refuses to board it |
| Anteaterking 02/08/18 2:35:27 PM #20 | Why wouldn't you just release it? --- |
| Topic | Jimmy g about to be the highest paid player in the NFL. |
| Anteaterking 02/08/18 2:04:50 PM #13 | 49ers have so much cap space that it's fine for them, even though I don't think he should be the highest paid. --- |
| Topic | Why do cucks say Jordan Peterson is the dumb man's smart man? |
| Anteaterking 02/08/18 1:55:39 PM #2 | The smart man's smart (wo)man is someone who is an expert in the field they are talking about. --- |
| Topic | Jordan Peterson "Can men and women work together in the workplace?" |
| Anteaterking 02/08/18 1:32:08 PM #71 | Sad_Face posted... Now you're completely missing the JP's point in why he's bringing up lipstick. Let me give you an equivalent argument. You leave apple syrup out in the open in your kitchen because you love the smell but it attracts ants. You complain about the hoard of ants being attracted to the open syrup but you refuse to stop leaving the syrup out. That's where the contradiction comes in so you have to give up one or the other or come up with a creative way to have your cake and eat it too. Except let's replace ants with adult human beings. --- |
| Topic | Were you on the Internet for Super Smash Bros. Melee's pre-release period? |
| Anteaterking 02/08/18 1:29:20 PM #5 | I said this in a topic yesterday about brawl, but the Melee site was non-functional for a long time --- |
| Topic | you can't name call public figures. also, NAZiS! |
| Anteaterking 02/08/18 1:28:41 PM #40 | Bagamak posted... I won't say the same exact thing but it boils down to starving them of attention and not letting them manipulate you into a fight. using your brain and civilized ways instead of brute force So you think nazis are attention whores? --- |
| Topic | you can't name call public figures. also, NAZiS! |
| Anteaterking 02/08/18 1:22:57 PM #36 | What's your way of defeating them? --- |
| Topic | U.S. official: Russians successfully penetrated voter registration rolls in 2016 |
| Anteaterking 02/08/18 1:00:38 PM #23 | a42ozslushie posted... YellowSUV posted...a42ozslushie posted...Nobody is allowed to interfere in US elections but the US is allowed to go into the Middle East and wipe out 90% of Muslim leaders. I don't criticize those countries for being mad about it. --- |
| Topic | Is CE ready for President Pelosi? |
| Anteaterking 02/08/18 12:46:57 PM #13 | BLAKUboy posted... They won't get enough seats to convict Trump without Republican votes, but they likely will get a simple majority. It's really hard for them to get 51. --- |
| Topic | stock market topic |
| Anteaterking 02/08/18 12:34:46 PM #3 | Darkman124 posted... that i was getting kicked out of merill edge repeatedly. What does this mean? --- |
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