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Genocet_10-325
02/08/18 3:58:15 PM
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This is mostly directed at @KazumaKiryu who accused me of thinking every conservative was an alt righter, so I asked him what he thought the difference was and he totally avoided the question and just said "wrong", so I figure I'll ask him again here . But hey, let's see what CE as a whole about this. What is the difference between a traditional conservative and an altrighter?
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Reis
02/08/18 3:59:01 PM
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The fact that you don't understand the difference is very telling
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Genocet_10-325
02/08/18 4:00:24 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
This is mostly directed at @KazumaKiryu who accused me of thinking every conservative was an alt righter, so I asked him what he thought the difference was and he totally avoided the question and just said "wrong", so I figure I'll ask him again here . But hey, let's see what CE as a whole about this. What is the difference between a traditional conservative and an altrighter?


...I do though. He accused me of not knowing, so I asked what he thinks the difference was in another topic. He pretended like I didn't ask and just kept saying I was " wrong". So I'm asking him again here.
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Genocet_10-325
02/08/18 4:06:25 PM
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Bump
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Questionmarktarius
02/08/18 4:07:21 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
What is the difference between a traditional conservative and an altrighter?

Ayn Rand.
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KazumaKiryu
02/08/18 4:09:28 PM
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Right wing is like John McCain, John Kasich.

Alt right is anyone who ever considered voting for Donald Trump and who listens to anything he says and dares ever clap, dares to even give him the time of fucking day, the racist orange leprechaun, damn him!!
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Anteaterking
02/08/18 4:10:06 PM
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When the phrase originated, I thought of it as conservatism which wasn't motivated by either fiscal conservative values or religion. A populist form of conservatism that was more centered in nationalism and things of that nature.
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Genocet_10-325
02/08/18 4:11:09 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
Right wing is like John McCain, John Kasich.

Alt right is anyone who ever considered voting for Donald Trump and who listens to anything he says and dares ever clap, dares to even give him the time of fucking day, the racist orange leprechaun, damn him!!


So it's confirmed you don't actually know. Great!
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KazumaKiryu
02/08/18 4:13:12 PM
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I'm so disgusted with my country, they're all racists!!! They elected a racist!!! Nazis!!!! Aghhhhh!!!!!
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Genocet_10-325
02/08/18 4:16:20 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
I'm so disgusted with my country, they're all racists!!! They elected a racist!!! Nazis!!!! Aghhhhh!!!!!


It's funny that you can't even see the hypocrisy. You cry and accuse leftists of saying all conservatives are racist nazis, then go on to assume all leftists are crazy Tumblr SJWs.
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KazumaKiryu
02/08/18 4:26:09 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
I'm so disgusted with my country, they're all racists!!! They elected a racist!!! Nazis!!!! Aghhhhh!!!!!


It's funny that you can't even see the hypocrisy. You cry and accuse leftists of saying all conservatives are racist nazis, then go on to assume all leftists are crazy Tumblr SJWs.


You fucking called me alt right. I'm parodying you.
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Genocet_10-325
02/08/18 4:36:16 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
I'm so disgusted with my country, they're all racists!!! They elected a racist!!! Nazis!!!! Aghhhhh!!!!!


It's funny that you can't even see the hypocrisy. You cry and accuse leftists of saying all conservatives are racist nazis, then go on to assume all leftists are crazy Tumblr SJWs.


You fucking called me alt right. I'm parodying you.


Because you are. You've literally said the DACA kids deserve to be deported. Traditional conservatives don't think this and the polls back me up.
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KazumaKiryu
02/08/18 4:40:18 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
I'm so disgusted with my country, they're all racists!!! They elected a racist!!! Nazis!!!! Aghhhhh!!!!!


It's funny that you can't even see the hypocrisy. You cry and accuse leftists of saying all conservatives are racist nazis, then go on to assume all leftists are crazy Tumblr SJWs.


You fucking called me alt right. I'm parodying you.


Because you are. You've literally said the DACA kids deserve to be deported. Traditional conservatives don't think this and the polls back me up.


I believe all illegals need to be deported to uphold our rule of law to be fair to American citizens, but not before we actually fix our border problem. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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hockeybub89
02/08/18 4:42:38 PM
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KazumaKiryu
02/08/18 4:43:59 PM
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Tezlok posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
Alt right is anyone who ever considered voting for Donald Trump

what if the person thinks Trump is a bad person and they disgree with everything Trump does and only voted cause they felt Hillary is even WORSE. I do not consider myself alt right but I get called it all the time. I am not even fucking right. I vote for all parties, all the time. im independent


Yeah, that makes you alt right
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Tezlok
02/08/18 4:44:38 PM
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bullshit. I am not alt right. how can I be alt right when I hate trump and don't agree with most things even normal conservatives are about?
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Genocet_10-325
02/08/18 4:44:57 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
I'm so disgusted with my country, they're all racists!!! They elected a racist!!! Nazis!!!! Aghhhhh!!!!!


It's funny that you can't even see the hypocrisy. You cry and accuse leftists of saying all conservatives are racist nazis, then go on to assume all leftists are crazy Tumblr SJWs.


You fucking called me alt right. I'm parodying you.


Because you are. You've literally said the DACA kids deserve to be deported. Traditional conservatives don't think this and the polls back me up.


I believe all illegals need to be deported to uphold our rule of law to be fair to American citizens, but not before we actually fix our border problem. You have no idea what you're talking about.


Believing people who were brought here as children, speak only English in most cases, pay taxes, have 0 criminal record, and have jobs deserve deportation just because they're Mexican is an altrighter opinion. Most of them were too young when they came here to even remember what Mexico is like. If you think they deserve to deported, then you are an altrighter white nationalist.
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KazumaKiryu
02/08/18 4:45:37 PM
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Tezlok posted...
bullshit. I am not alt right. how can I be alt right when I hate trump and don't agree with most things even normal conservatives are about?


Because you don't worship Hillary
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Tezlok
02/08/18 4:45:38 PM
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I lean left in many things. there a couple of things I lean right in but they are rare. I think if I WAS going to ally with one party over the other it would be the left if I had to pick a side with a gun to my head. I just didn't like Hillary
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DragonGirlYuki
02/08/18 4:45:48 PM
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Apparently supporting the rule of law means you are an alt right racist now.
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hockeybub89
02/08/18 4:46:59 PM
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DragonGirlYuki posted...
Apparently supporting the rule of law means you are an alt right racist now.

That means Trump supporters can't possibly be alt-right.
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Tezlok
02/08/18 4:47:43 PM
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I just find it funny how I have these really all over the place views and honestly could never get one party to accept me probably, but CEmen call me alt right just cause of a a couple of decisions I made in my entire life .politics doesn't define your entire person.
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Antifar
02/08/18 4:49:38 PM
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In the U.S., conservative ideals of "small government" and "the free market" have, in the past 40 years or so, come packaged with undertones of racism and nationalism. Reagan's talk of "welfare queens," Nixon's talk of "law and order" and etc. were pitched at whites who felt that the civil rights era had stepped too far.

The alt-right doesn't particularly care about Marco Rubio's founding fathers slashfic, or Rand Paul's tax plan; they just want the nationalism. Alt-righters say the quiet parts loud.
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DragonGirlYuki
02/08/18 4:49:58 PM
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No one has called me alt right luckily.
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Genocet_10-325
02/08/18 4:51:01 PM
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Tezlok posted...
I just find it funny how I have these really all over the place views and honestly could never get one party to accept me probably, but CEmen call me alt right just cause of a a couple of decisions I made in my entire life .politics doesn't define your entire person.


Why are you getting so upset? I never said all conservatives were alt right. I was saying Kazuma was because of all of his overtly racist views.

Tezlok, what right wing views would you say you have?
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Tezlok
02/08/18 4:53:07 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
Tezlok, what right wing views would you say you have?

tighter borders and enforcement of illegal immigration laws. I am all fine with immigrants if they come in legally. I have some sympathy for those brought here against their will but they need to apply for citizenship . it's hard to feel sorry for the ones who live here for like 40 years and never fill out a form to legalize themselves.

that's the main thing.
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KazumaKiryu
02/08/18 4:54:36 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
Tezlok posted...
I just find it funny how I have these really all over the place views and honestly could never get one party to accept me probably, but CEmen call me alt right just cause of a a couple of decisions I made in my entire life .politics doesn't define your entire person.


Why are you getting so upset? I never said all conservatives were alt right. I was saying Kazuma was because of all of his overtly racist views.

Tezlok, what right wing views would you say you have?


There it is! Nothing I've said could ever be construed as racist. I don't have a racist bone in my body. Yet here you are calling me a god damn fuckin racist.
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Genocet_10-325
02/08/18 4:56:44 PM
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Tezlok posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Tezlok, what right wing views would you say you have?

tighter borders and enforcement of illegal immigration laws. I am all fine with immigrants if they come in legally. I have some sympathy for those brought here against their will but they need to apply for citizenship . it's hard to feel sorry for the ones who live here for like 40 years and never fill out a form to legalize themselves.

that's the main thing.


Do you think the DACA kids specifically should be deported?

I, nor do most other on the left, do not believe in open borders. But I think it should be made easier to immigrate here legally, and that a wall would be a giant fucking waste of money because this isn't the 1400s and it won't do anything to help.
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Tezlok
02/08/18 4:58:02 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
Do you think the DACA kids specifically should be deported?

those are the ones who came here against their will right? I think they should be given a chance to apply. let them sign up for citizenship and give it to them if they are good law abiding residents.
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DragonGirlYuki
02/08/18 4:58:27 PM
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If you want to come here legally you need to get in line and follow the proper process like everyone else. Giving DACA people preferential access is unfair to those who went through the proper process.
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KazumaKiryu
02/08/18 5:00:16 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
and that a wall would be a giant fucking waste of money because this isn't the 1400s and it won't do anything to help.


Why is it that you liberals are unable to admit that a wall would help? We know it would help. The man who killed an NFL star this week had been deported twice for previous crimes. Guys like him come back across the border. He's not overstaying a visa. He's sneaking across the unprotected border. Why would you deny any protection from people like him?
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Genocet_10-325
02/08/18 5:02:16 PM
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Tezlok posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
Do you think the DACA kids specifically should be deported?

those are the ones who came here against their will right? I think they should be given a chance to apply. let them sign up for citizenship and give it to them if they are good law abiding residents.


Yes. It is a requirement to be on the DACA program that you work or go to school, pay taxes, and have no criminal history. If they don't they can't be in the program.
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hockeybub89
02/08/18 5:02:43 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
Why is it that you liberals are unable to admit that a wall would help?

Because planes, boats, shovels, and not leaving when your visa expires exist
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KazumaKiryu
02/08/18 5:05:43 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
Why is it that you liberals are unable to admit that a wall would help?

Because planes, boats, shovels, and not leaving when your visa expires exist


So you didn't read the rest of my short post after this?
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MabusIncarnate
02/08/18 5:06:22 PM
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One is a hockey position.
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hockeybub89
02/08/18 5:12:05 PM
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KazumaKiryu posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
Why is it that you liberals are unable to admit that a wall would help?

Because planes, boats, shovels, and not leaving when your visa expires exist


So you didn't read the rest of my short post after this?

You don't think that guy could find access to the first three? Or any modern human technology? Or just waiting for an opening at night? I don't get how you have access to the Internet because you are clearly living in the 14th Century.
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The Admiral
02/08/18 5:14:15 PM
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Difference is that alt-right is a laregely left-leaning movement in terms of economic protectionism and identity politics.
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hockeybub89
02/08/18 5:15:02 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Difference is that alt-right is a laregely left-leaning movement in terms of economic protectionism and identity politics.

Everything Bad Is Left
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DirkDiggles
02/08/18 5:20:51 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
This is mostly directed at @KazumaKiryu who accused me of thinking every conservative was an alt righter, so I asked him what he thought the difference was and he totally avoided the question and just said "wrong", so I figure I'll ask him again here . But hey, let's see what CE as a whole about this. What is the difference between a traditional conservative and an altrighter?


Right wing is just another term for a conservative.
Alt Right aka Far Right are the white supremacists, neo-nazis, and neo-fascists.

All Alt-Righters are Right Wing but not all Right Wingers are Alt Righters.
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glitteringfairy
02/08/18 5:23:06 PM
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Well you think I'm alt right because I don't tote leftist ideals and that's apparently all the evidence you need
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Genocet_10-325
02/08/18 5:24:21 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Well you think I'm alt right because I don't tote leftist ideals and that's apparently all the evidence you need


Why does every CE conservative have such a gross lack of self awareness?
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DragonGirlYuki
02/08/18 5:40:51 PM
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Why does every far left user think everyone that doesn't support their views is alt right?
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Genocet_10-325
02/08/18 5:45:55 PM
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DragonGirlYuki posted...
Why does every far left user think everyone that doesn't support their views is alt right?


I've already addressed this several times in this topic, so you can either read it or don't because I'm not typing it out again.
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Hop103
02/08/18 5:56:05 PM
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Right

Your typical God fearing Republican, most likely pro-life as well, you also have some market skeptics and opposition of illegal immigration in the mix since being capitalists and wanting to defend your borders is a "crime" according to the far left.

Alt-Right

The same thing as SJWs except on the other side, racism, segregation, and all.
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KazumaKiryu
02/08/18 6:02:51 PM
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Genocet_10-325 posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Well you think I'm alt right because I don't tote leftist ideals and that's apparently all the evidence you need


Why does every CE conservative have such a gross lack of self awareness?


Because you call every conservative alt right! The jig is up!
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NINExATExSEVEN
02/08/18 6:06:16 PM
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Reis posted...
The fact that you don't understand the difference is very telling

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KazumaKiryu
02/08/18 6:10:24 PM
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Bullet_Wing posted...
KazumaKiryu posted...
Genocet_10-325 posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Well you think I'm alt right because I don't tote leftist ideals and that's apparently all the evidence you need


Why does every CE conservative have such a gross lack of self awareness?


Because you call every conservative alt right! The jig is up!

Trump supporters ARE mostly alt right at this point. Normal conservatives aren't his base, they're just dragged along for the ride.


Right, thanks for admitting it. Everyone who stands against you and says anything different from the democrat talking points is alt right. It's nothing more than a baseless attack you use to discredit everyone.
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