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Topic | Community Mafia Topic 14 - "Where's the Flavour?" Culinary Studies |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 7:26:28 PM #242 | TotallyNotMI posted...
Is it? He doesn't ever have to prove anything He proved that he can't vote at least. So whether that's his actual role or something else is, there is actually a loss of vote mechanic involved. The part I don't really understand though, is ctes effectively has to be perfect 2 nights in a row for us to receive a tangible benefit. He would have to guess correctly night 5 to receive something and then actually use the thing successfully night 6, it's so slow If he can actually bet his life on guessing the NK then I'd say he probably doesn't ever do that, so he would just be a really damn unlikely prosty/double voter. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 14 - "Where's the Flavour?" Culinary Studies |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 7:10:34 PM #222 | ctesjbuvf posted...
Because they choose the thing I bet on of course. Which changes.. what exactly? Can you think of not unlikely night kills than the ones we've seen so far? Isquen and Sbell were wayyy out in left field. At least MZero can be reasonably explained by his own night action, though it's equally possibly he was directly shot. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 14 - "Where's the Flavour?" Culinary Studies |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 7:06:32 PM #206 | I still don't like it for flavor reasons, but that is... oddly specific.
Have we seen a role like this before? --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 14 - "Where's the Flavour?" Culinary Studies |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 6:50:31 PM #193 | ctesjbuvf posted...
This role has so much potential to be fun but you're straight up not allowing it. You had 4 nights already. And if it was truly RNG that screwed you then shit that sucks but sometimes that's the breaks. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 14 - "Where's the Flavour?" Culinary Studies |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 6:37:41 PM #176 | ctesjbuvf posted...
How the f*** can anyone insist something is smart that the rules of the game straight up says isn't. Those rules are copy pasted and say nothing of how likely Lea and Sultan were to pick flavor that fits. If I'm wrong then I'm wrong. But I don't think I'm wrong. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 14 - "Where's the Flavour?" Culinary Studies |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 6:34:09 PM #167 | IfGodCouldDie posted...
Is there a limit to how many you can send out? I'm not sure if this has been asked yet. No limit, it's just an every night ability. The only quirk is that I must use my ability each night. I don't have the option not to act. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 14 - "Where's the Flavour?" Culinary Studies |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 6:32:11 PM #163 | I also helped the lynch on knightz day 1 by pushing him on flavor related justifications that he was completely unable to answer resulting in multiple flubs. Which is less to toot my own horn and rather justify that flavor can have a purpose, especially when it all seems to fit very well.
--- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 14 - "Where's the Flavour?" Culinary Studies |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 6:29:05 PM #155 | ctesjbuvf posted...
Then more people should tell him to look for scum equity instead of going against host wish of no metagaming. I think you're just upset that your flavor fit what you've revealed too well and I figured it out. Sorry --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 14 - "Where's the Flavour?" Culinary Studies |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 6:28:07 PM #154 | As far as I can tell I can target the same person multiple times. Do you want me to just keep giving pineapples to chang?
Or hell I wouldn't mind being an option for Kirby's jailer action. Safety from death with no important role lost. (Though I still think Chang is a better target for that) --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 14 - "Where's the Flavour?" Culinary Studies |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 6:25:46 PM #148 | ctesjbuvf posted...
Also did FD seriously spend time looking at what could possibly fit with a role. Nah I just consulted my Community themed pocket encyclopedia. You were the one suggesting that "the hosts just wanted a bookie" and that they couldn't think of anything better than starburns. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 14 - "Where's the Flavour?" Culinary Studies |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 6:22:00 PM #138 | ctesjbuvf posted...
You guys are forgetting that my positive effects are tied to what I bet most of the time. How can we "forget" something you haven't really told us about. Please explain. That wasn't too be dramatic or for effect. I literally want you to explain. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 14 - "Where's the Flavour?" Culinary Studies |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 6:17:10 PM #127 | Okay, characters in community who could be a Bookie:
Coach Bogner from the Billiards episode. He makes a very with Jeff about whether or not you can play billiards in shorts. Juergon, Karl, Lukas or Reinhold. The German Foosball players. They wager access to the foosball table in a match against Jeff. Richard, Joe or Pearl, the 3 old friends of Leonard who in one episode are bad influences on Pierce and are seen playing poker before the Dean showed up to break it up. . Characters not seen doing any gambling or wagering: Starburns He has star shaped sideburns He gets a lizard at one point He does drugs He sells drugs He fakes his death in a drug lab explosion That's about it. And there might be even more better suited characters for Bookie, but there's also the fact that Ctes has yet to demonstrate any actual Bookie-ing. But based on the partial claim information we have from Ctes I'm sticking with this: Forceful_Dragon posted... I think ctes is Evil Troy. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 14 - "Where's the Flavour?" Culinary Studies |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 5:48:38 PM #97 | ctesjbuvf posted...
That red and I are faking that? If red is faking then he did a masterful job. I thought it was really strange last night when he started to ask me about my action confirmations, but now it fits. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 14 - "Where's the Flavour?" Culinary Studies |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 5:38:05 PM #87 | Meow1000 posted...
Death+MI If the scum roles are all as overpowered as it seems then there might not be a 3rd --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 4:35:45 PM #442 | htaeD posted...
Oh yeah Ben Ben's role is immune based on action orders as far as I can tell. 1. Any necessary and hopefully unlikely host intervention Was I the only one who read this thing? --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 4:32:07 PM #435 | ctesjbuvf posted...
Making every town charcater fit perfectly with flavor is probably not good game design actually. There's a different between roles that don't match exactly and roles that are not even fucking close. If you don't like that you can take it up with Maria, Lady of the Astral Clocktower, Vanilla --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 4:28:16 PM #429 | ctesjbuvf posted...
Okay say you really wanted your game to include town bookie, do you have a good character for that? If not, what do you then do, scratch the idea completely or find something that's close enough? I'm convinced there is an episode or a character that could fit a bookie, they had so many bizarrely themed episode. I bet if I think on it I could think of at least a couple that fit better than Starburns. Also there's the fact that we have no evidence of any good effects happening and you won't even clarify the mechanics of the bet. You're giving us shit and telling us to just look the other way. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 4:24:58 PM #423 | htaeD posted...
Back to where is...what? Waiting for ctes to show up. Hey guys, where is ctes? I sure wish he would show up and claim for us. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 4:23:22 PM #417 | changmas posted...
pointless to use seems better than it's worked out for you thus far If I wasn't already convinced you were town I would be loving this. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 4:20:48 PM #410 | ctesjbuvf posted...
No you have decided that flavor metaing was so successful with Mr. T that you decided to ignore the host message that it is a bad idea. Is a game where EVERY flavor we've seen flip so far has been pitch perfect including my own? Yes --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 4:17:17 PM #404 | ctesjbuvf posted...
Believe me I don't --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 4:15:58 PM #402 | If ctes won't put forth an alternative then I'm sticking with my explanation. He's evil Troy and he has to lose his vote to scan innocent
--- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 4:13:50 PM #399 | Leafeon13N posted...
Theres an evil variant of that and i am curious what you are using to dispel that notion out of hand. The evil variant (a) only existed for like a scene and didn't leave enough of an impact for those of us who actually watched the show to remember it existed and (b) never gave anyone canisters of frozen sperm. That is an exclusively regular Pierce thing. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 4:04:33 PM #387 | ctesjbuvf posted...
I would say yes. Plus, I don't see what you would need them for. If you get to pick which negative might occur then why not reveal all of them? It sounds like it's up to you anyways. . Kirby321 posted... I'm also struggling to believe why Ulti hasn't been shot dead by redirecting Blade if there's some redirection tomfoolery going on here with FD's cannisters of love. This is the first one that hasn't gone to the right person. I still think this is some kind of deflection inherent to ctes, but if not it's probably some kind of limited use thing. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 3:55:54 PM #373 | htaeD posted...
And cops generally do get a name. That is my assumption as well --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 3:42:40 PM #362 | The fact that he won't even say what he's betting on is confusing me. Or is it just a coin flip and he's lost 4x in a row.
1/16 would be unusual but not impossible --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 2:56:07 PM #331 | ctesjbuvf posted...
Maybe you stop with your setup/flavor meta s*** now and we start playing mafia again. How can we, you've still only given half a claim --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 2:46:29 PM #320 | ctesjbuvf posted...
The flavor is Starburns Oh you claimed while I was typing that. How does your flavor justify anything you've revealed so far? --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 2:44:47 PM #318 | Screw it, I'll do it from mobile.
I think ctes is Evil Troy. Evil Troy loses his voice when trying to eat a flaming troll roll (yes, really) and he is later seen speaking using some kind of mechanized voice box. So I think his two options are to stay silent (lose his vote) and scan innocent (because he looks like regular Troy) Or to keep his vote (voice) but it gives him away so he scans guilty. This theory doesn't explain how my love canister got to red, but maybe certain actions deflect off of him onto random targets. That part is less clear but the rest of it fits the flavor of Evil Troy too perfectly. ##Vote: Ctes --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 2:19:34 PM #301 | TotallyNotMI posted...
FD you just get a successful message? It doesn't say who you targeted? As I already confirmed to red yes, just successful. Anyways I'm at family event right now, but when I get home I can give my ctes flavor theory. I suggest he claims before then --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 2:14:22 PM #293 | Leafeon13N posted...
Okay I have to add my puzzle piece because something is missing. Well that explains the sudden interest in asking me about my confirmation. I definitely targeted Ctes last night. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 2:06:49 PM #285 | What are the things you MIGHT have gained then?
We're trying to solve a puzzle and you're holding some of the pieces hostage --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/11/24 1:41:00 PM #278 | Jesus I slept so much last night, I must have needed it.
Ctes, it's sounding like all your bets or guesses have failed, but even knowing WHAT your were betting on tells us something by virtue of learning what did NOT happen. And yes, give the damn flavor. I have a theory that sprang to mind, but I want to give you a chance before I say it --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/10/24 9:37:41 PM #143 | Kirby321 posted...
Why does scum Ben even say anything at EoD? The whole reason a train got started was because he opened his mouth and voted Red. Because sometimes scum screws up? We'd have never lynched knightz if we convinced ourselves that scum is incapable of making obvious mistakes. Why tie his own vote to yours to begin with? Shows a lack of wanting to commit to his own reads --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/10/24 8:51:33 PM #135 | possibly, either way your lynch wasn't happening and Ben was an option I could (and still can) support.
The Ben train was unexpected, but welcome. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/10/24 8:45:12 PM #131 | Leafeon13N posted...
Like if people wanted to lynch ben we had 47.9 hours to mske the argument. I made my argument. His flavor is shit and his BP walk back is suspicious and the logic for his lies is questionable. That qualified Ben as the one special I was happy to join --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/10/24 8:43:30 PM #129 | Leafeon13N posted...
There wasn't anywhere to be. People went crazy. I meant your lynch. You were surpassed by Ben and then by Peaf. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/10/24 8:41:43 PM #126 | Leafeon13N posted...
What are you trying to say here kirby. Un-scanned I think --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/10/24 8:41:10 PM #125 | Actually IGCD doesn't have a shot because like 8 people reacted to the Ben votes by voting Peaf. Red seemed solidly on the sidelines by that point
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Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/10/24 8:35:39 PM #119 | Kirby321 posted...
Scum would be hella gambiting on Blade not protecting Ulti. Something he has claimed to do 0 times up to that point. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/10/24 8:14:58 PM #112 | TotallyNotMI posted...
I think we know Ben neighbored Kirby, didn't they say that? Yup, overlooked that post. Maybe Ben is responsible for Kirby making the reckless play instead of the safe one? --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/10/24 8:12:12 PM #110 | Not much happened during the days though so I'm probably gonna delete those columns moving forward. Sheet's getting too squahed.
--- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/10/24 8:11:19 PM #109 | https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/17700f32.png
For night actions I think we're still missing Ben and Blade and still waiting to find out if ctes can finally vote. And still missing scum/town lists from several --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/10/24 8:04:41 PM #105 | Leafeon13N posted...
What do you get back anyway FD. some variant of "action successful"? Yes, I just get told my action was successful. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/10/24 8:01:48 PM #102 | Leafeon13N posted...
How much do we trust ctes, role meta aside? I can't recall anything particularly egregious that he's said or done. I think he made some really good posts on day 1 regarding Knightz that helped secure that lynch, but that was overall a group effort so it's hard to know if it wasn't just scummate piling on. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/10/24 8:00:16 PM #101 | TotallyNotMI posted...
I've been targeted twice before last night that weren't blocked But I thought Blade was blocked by Corrik? --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/10/24 7:57:46 PM #99 | It's the same logic that dictates Kirby SHOULD be jailing chang every night. His ass is town 99.99% of the time and his action was a day action that already occurred.
But nobody listens to FD and so everyone is swinging for the fences instead of laying down a productive bunt. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/10/24 7:56:03 PM #97 | Leafeon13N posted...
Ctes? Curious. Yeah, he's the only unclaimed everyone knows about my pineapples so it seemed like the natural thing to do. I couldn't think of any more clever ways to use the mechanic to catch someone lying. I guess I thought maybe Kirby would jail me? The NK targets have been strange so the protection would be nice and I don't have an important action that's hurt by it. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/10/24 7:53:01 PM #94 | Leafeon13N posted...
Hes not claiming vanilla. Hey, Ulti THIS is what TMI looks like --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
Topic | Community Mafia Topic 13 - Ethics of Appealing to Emotion |
Forceful_Dragon 05/10/24 7:51:29 PM #91 | Because he's scum and he's worried about anything that could possibly jeopardize his team's slim chances to win.
--- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png |
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