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I did think the ending could serve to remove him from the MCU if they chose to go that way, yeah

ScareChan posted...

Hannibul Buress's time in this movie was so short, but he made me laugh so much in his scene

He was great

And I'm glad they gave all 3 teachers a cameo, even though the story left that part of his life behind a bit

Honestly I was so pissed off about the Dragon in Shang-Chi, and progressively more in hindsight tbh

I was really into the movie, I liked Wenwu - one of the better villains in the franchise imo - then this badly-shot, messy, dark fight scene with no personal stakes just...intrudes.

Movie made me so happy. I want to watch it again at some point.

I've given this some thought and find it really hard.

NWH, Spiderman 2 and Spiderverse are all different, all good for somewhat different reasons and I find it hard to compare

MrGreenonion posted...

He was changed by the MCU's different energy. Remember, all the electricity in the world is generated by arc reactors now, and when Electro absorbed it, it literally made him like Tony Stark (the goatee specifically, the overall coolness and style in general).

I'm gonna go with it because comic book movie but for the record this is absolutely hilarious bullshit

I had a great theatre for it - I was worried because sometimes busy cinemas in Qatar can be a nightmare. People don't respect it, one time a kid played games on his phone at full volume etc. I was hoping because it was opening night everyone there was a fan and I was right. Lots of whooping and cheering but nothing that distracted from the movie, only added to the experience. I don't think I missed any dialogue for instance.

Mega Mana posted...

Willem Dafoe is at the absolute peak, doing Green Goblin stronger and scarier than his original outing somehow

Yeah I also felt he outdid his original performance which is bonkers really

Mega Mana posted...

Lizard and Spider-Man fighting in the lab after going through the portal felt quickly reminiscent of the Stan Lee Amazing Spider-Man cameo, just enough of a familiarity without a direct homage.

Caught this too. Definitely felt it was deliberate

I'm not sure how necessary it is, but I made a Spiderman topic so people could post about Hawkeye freely in here without fear of being Spidey spoiled for the next few days at least

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/79812009

Did it taste gross and/or horrible?

Just watched Hawkeye before bed

Yelena is the best addition to the MCU in phase 4 by a long way

So

Spoilers are gonna start

Right now

Stop

OK let's go

Willem Dafoe is the man in this, and the fights with him did their best (while I think still being constrained by the MCU's overall lack of really vicious fight scenes) to match the brutality of the fight with Tobey Maguire Spider-Man in the first movie. That was something I really liked. The final fight particularly was so aggressive and nasty, and I love that

What I liked overall about this was how weighty it was. I previously said I wasn't as high on the other Holland movies as some because both him and the movies themselves feel flimsy and lightweight, and the charisma of RDJ hung over both of them - for all of TASM2's flaws, it feels like a big movie from the first 5 minutes, and that was never true of the Holland Spider-Man movies until this one. This movie was not at all flimsy, and Holland himself was leagues ahead of any previous performance. It felt weighty and somehow real despite all the crazy multiverse shit going on

May dying was horrific but I'm glad they did it, the movie is far stronger because of it, and the finale is clever on several different levels.

Stuff I didn't like - not much, but Jamie Foxx being suddenly "cool Jamie Foxx character" as opposed to the nerd he used to be felt a bit jarring, and Sandman was a fucking charisma vacuum and stood out like a sore thumb among the other 5 bad guys (though you could kind of see that coming). Also thought they could have done more to differentiate the three Spidermen in the final battle because I had almost no idea which one was which.

Two credits scenes were both good for different reasons. The second one was completely unexpected. Did not expect unreleased Dr. Strange 2 footage/trailer.

Obviously all the fanservice shit got a laugh out of me. I think...maybe some of it became a little cheap, but I have to admit I still loved it in the moment

I'm not sure how this will stand the test of time because it's so reliant on the big moments and the fanservice, and that can wear off on repeat viewings once the initial thrill is gone, but there is an awesome big-hearted movie underneath it all

Last thing: Civil War is still a Cap movie, he is the central driving character, but it (necessarily) loses focus on that and spins a lot of different plates - Iron Man, Natasha, Black Panther, Zemo all have their arcs.

This has a LOT of shit going on, but it is still absolutely Tom Holland's movie, and everything in it - all the fanservice and the extra characters - they all lead back to him. That's what might allow it to stand beyond its fanservice moments

Just some scattered thoughts, the adrenaline is pumping still. So good

To prevent the mcu topic turning into a heavily redacted CIA document
(Reposting because I criminally forgot the hyphen)

Fucking yes

One of the best MCU movies, and up there with Endgame as something to enjoy in the cinema

To prevent the mcu topic turning into a heavily redacted CIA document

Fucking yes

Spoiler free verdict with no plot details at all: holy fuck

Not sure if it will stand the test of time in terms of MCU movies like, say, Winter Soldier has

But the in-theatre experience was near-Endgame levels of amazing

FFDragon posted...

https://twitter.com/horsedivorce/status/1336503838040264704?s=20

Can someone answer that for me after they see NWH? Not any kind of spoiler question, for the gun-shy.

I can answer that for you in about 3 hours!

So excited

Yeah they're good

I think there is a slight danger of unfairly grading it on a slight curve

Basically because the presentation of ND's stories is so good, so far beyond... I would say 99% of games that get released. The in-game dialogue, the details of the world, the level of acting both voice and physical, and the visuals of it (not pure graphical performance, that wouldn't be applicable here). That alone means it can't score below a certain number to me because I'm sold on that almost immediately. There's such a clear difference between ND's work and almost all other games in that department. To compare big-budget PS games, I thought GoW was pretty good at it but still not quite there, Spider-Man I would say has a clear gulf between it and ND, and FF7R is a fair way off. What makes TLOU ambitious, and TLOU2 even moreso, is that ND had never really married that A+ presentation of story to a plot beyond "treasure hunting". Compared to Uncharted, TLOU and TLOU2 swing for the fence imo

Luckily TLOU2 succeeds for the most part anyway. It's too long so some parts start to lag, contains a few too many contrivances, and the gameplay/story segregation has never been more blatant. But I still cared about all the characters, even the new ones, and I think it largely succeeded at its central challenge (getting you to care significantly about Abby even after she killed Joel) though mileage varies massively on that. Parts of it reminded me of Undertale's genocide route actually. I think it took some fairly bold risks and they mostly paid off and I respect that given that it was a guaranteed hit.

I'd more or less never grade an ND game lower than like a 6 in one of these topics because its house style is, to me, the gold standard. But TLOU1 took a simpler story and nailed all of it, while TLOU2 had a harder challenge and...didn't quite nail all of it but came very close. That's why it's tricky.

Eh
9.5

Pokalicious posted...

https://t.co/wQfS6JkThb

Welp, see you guys on Thursday night.

I'm seeing it on Wednesday

This is tricky to rate

Accel_R8 posted...

I liked everything except Knuckles' voice. Very intimidating and I'm glad he's not gonna be comic relief but uhhhh... he sound kinda Darth Vadery, not sure about that lol.

Otherwise looked great.

Hard disagree from The Verge

https://www.theverge.com/2021/12/9/22826714/sonic-the-hedgehog-2-movie-trailer-the-game-awards

Also,

On December 7th, Tails long-time voice actor Colleen OShaughnessey, confirmed she will be voicing Sonics sidekick, presumably because Chris Pratt had a scheduling conflict.

Absolutely horrific, so sorry man.

StealThisSheen posted...

Arguing "No, I will only go as far as ___/___" is acting like you think you're conceding something in the first place, which is kind of a jerky place to start from to begin with.

I was gonna say something similar

Topic title gave me pause because it's already phrased like using "they/them" was some stretch or hardship or like a gift that trans people should be grateful for