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Can I nominate "submarime" and "paramotor"?

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AND because the screenshots were flipped out of order. The entire framing was deliberately false.

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Wanglicious posted...

the 138k one is also a case of specific meaning. the incident did happen. it was also a mistake and immediately corrected. there's a big difference between lying about something not happening and lying/not being aware of the full story behind it. and i'm not sure you're getting what i'm using this as an example of.

It
Was
A
Lie

yes there was a mistake in a single website so in that sense it was a thing that occurred. But WHAT occurred is that as part of a vote update (in which votes were added for everyone) there was a mistake where their website added too many Biden votes.

And then they corrected the error by reducing Bidens vote total with an update to only his votes.

And so the before/after screenshots were posted in reverse. If they were posted in order you would think that democrats might say "Hey why did they take away Biden's Votes???" Because in chronological order that's how it would have appeared. But instead their order was deliberately flipped to paint a false narrative.

I know what your were trying to do by using that example as a "thing that actually occurred and was later resolved by follow up information" but even in the context of it "occurring" it was predicated on lies.

And that is why I feel comfortable including it with the other lies, because it was not a "real discrepancy that got resolved".

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Wanglicious posted...

i know, i explicitly said this here and in other places. brought it up to say hey, this actually was fishy. it was also an error. those two go hand in hand - if you can't tell apart an error that's 10x wrong from its legitimate numbers, you've got blinders on and should fix that because you're seeing only what you want to see at that point, which is the same accusation to those who find conspiracies in everything.

"Hey there was any update where Biden got 128k votes and nobody else got any" and "they didn't allow observers" and "the voting machines changed all the votes" are the same, Wang. They are the same.

They are all lies.
They are being shared by the same people.
None of them have any supporting evidence and all of them have ample opposition evidence.

They are the same and they need to be treated the same like the fabricated bullshit that they are.

A stance of "this idea is disputed" gives any one of them far more credibility than they deserve.

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On that Philadelphia tweet the notice should read "reports confirm that elections observers from both sides WERE allowed to observe the ballots being counted".

Or something more correctly direct as a response to the lies being presented.

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I back red on this one.

He's not denying anyone's right to block Wang or himself or anyone else of they are tired of reading arguments, he's just personally saying that he won't let the BS slide because the fight isn't about the person whose mind had already been made up (wang) as much as its preventing some random other soul from seeing the BS, and seeing it not get ridiculed and eviscerated the way it deserves and in their mind it normalizes and semi-legitimizes the BS.

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If I went in front of a biology class after the professor gave a lecture on photosynthesis and I shouted about how I believed that trees don't convert carbon dioxide to oxygen, they actually convert sulfur to Orange juice... You wouldn't call that "disputed" you would be aware that the professor said correct things and I said incorrect things.

Also I legitimately can't believe the 128,000 are actuality still being discussed. The 128k votes had nothing to do with official state reported information, it was a clerical error by one website (of many) that were updating the totals on their website. It is actually a nothingburger.

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Eh if the the host took something that was going to take 600 years and put his thumb on the scale to take it down to a manageable 4~ months then I think I'm okay with that. It puts interesting and enjoyable content in the world which strikes me as a net positive.

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I read an article about those fish when they found an undiscovered glitch a while back. Cool to see they finished the game.

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I used a goose analogy once.

It ended...poorly.

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

To be honest the most recent conspiracy theories over the last few days have been gaining very little traction from what I can tell.

This one caught my eye because it was republican supporters using science, which is a thing they notably hate to use, to give credibility to the claims of election fraud.

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If you see someone circulating the link about how "benford's law proves that biden's results are fraudulant" please call them a moron and link them to this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etx0k1nLn78

tl:dw is that the data behind the visuals of "proof" have been cherry picked from a specific location (Chicago) that is misleading, and that based upon the size of precincts generally being of the same magnitude (resulting in a almost exclusively a 3 digit total of votes rather than a spread among 2, 3 and 4 digit results) means you would not expect a Bendford distribution. Trump's totals from Chicago only appeared to fit the distribution because he got so few votes in chicago than many of his precinct results began with a 1 or a 2 because they were literally in the 10s and 20s.

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red sox 777 posted...

Democrats refused to accept their defeat in 2016 for years.

Just because you keep saying it doesn't make it true.

We accepted that by the number trump won the election. The legal votes and the electoral college victories were in his favor. This was not seriously disputed.

But because "nuance" is a thing that exists you can acknowledge that trump won and ALSO acknowledge that there was a legitimate attempt by Russia to influence our election.

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I had a video that was taking a long time to load, but after giving it several minutes it went through.

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Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/bostonpatrolmen/status/1326526877532622848?s=21

Do you...do you think they watched the movie?

In fairness to whatever organization that is... Leo was at least the good guy. So it's not like they are celebrating Matt Damon's character.

But it is still a movie about police corruption being so rampant that it's difficult to know who the good guys are.

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26, 29, 27, 27, 33

new PB

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18, 27, 22, 27, 28

Several of these would have been higher if I went the full 50 but i've been resetting when it becomes clear I wont even set a PB. Nothing above 32 yet.

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19, 22, 32, 25, 31, 27

Had some decent progress while half paying attention and watching videos.

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SoulDynasty posted...

new users

What is that? Citation needed.

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15/50 - Nice to have a baseline I suppose
13/50 - And then it was immediately undercut <_<

I think I'll grind rabbit for max stats now so I don't have the speed and hitbox mechanics changing on me from the occasional level up while I try to get used to him.

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23/40 - I gave up after it was mathematically impossible
22/40 - started with 11/12 and then threw it all away by being bad =P

edit:
29/40 - got weird in the middle but then crushed 14 out of the final 15.

And then there was one...

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Gravity Falls

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Tigger: (target 28)
19/40
23/40 (was well ahead of pace and fell apart)
25/40 (I fell very far behind pace and had a pointlessly strong finish to PB without winning)

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Took a half dozen more tries, but got the 19/35 to clear owl. I'm going to be curious to go back to owl after my stats are maxed, I don't remember him being so challenging before. It's not a sign that bodes well. I don't think i'll take as many tries on tigger.

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Rabbit: 15/30
Owl: 17/35

Succeeded on Rabbit (target was 15) and then failed on owl (target 19). It's probably for the best because I'm still not even halfway maxed on the stats. I need the upgraded sweet spot on owl because I could make contact with every pitch but the zig zag pattern means a lot of them are glancing blows that dont make it out of the park.

Pirateking2000 posted...

You poor fool. You know not what you delve into.

Oh, I'm fully aware. I've trod down this path before and stared into the eyes of the devil himself.

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Piglett: 14/20
Kanga: 15/25

No failures yet, but Kanga was close. I don't remember if I'm going to need to grind points to max out my stats or if I'll have max stats by the time I reach CR.

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Eeyore beated, 7/10
Lumpy beated 10/15

these guys are chumps :D

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I will accept this rating and pretend it's from MMXcalibur

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cerna_zelva posted...

Getting rid of FPTP is the correct way to protect democracy without screwing over large parts of the country that have different needs/concerns from the large metropolitan areas.

Agreed, switching our voting system is one of the most major changes we can realistically make that would benefit the country.

There is a great video from a week ago that goes over the pros/cons of different voting systems that I quite enjoyed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhO6jfHPFQU

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I suppose I'll beat it once more for nostalgia's sake.

But Christopher Robin is a real a-hole, I remember that much.

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Oh trust me, I truly hope the senate seat in NC is still in play.

I fear that it isn't, but I would love to be proven wrong. If Cal's race can get flipped then we could be looking at a potential 51 if the GA runoffs go well.

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Trumps lead increased by 14 votes after additional reports from Richmond County. Were still waiting for additional votes in 70 counties. 20m ago

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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

I don't disagree that post-secondary education in the US is completely broken. I read up on tuition costs in the US versus Canada and I was shocked. I was able to pay for my 4 year Bachelors without any government loans just by working a part time job while going to school. What I have a hard time grappling with is why smart, hard working people need to pay off the debts of people that just wanted to party for 4 years. It's the exact opposite of a meritocracy.

And many people don't like welfare because there's that small percentage of people who abuse it.

But you don't abandon doing a good thing just because a select few will use that good thing to receive something that they didn't deserve.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Andrew Yang is moving to Georgia so he can vote in the runoffs

I appreciate it but I have to admit I would be incensed by Republicans doing this

His tweet about moving doesn't specifically state it's "to vote", but it should be noted that Georgia laws allow voting as soon as you move to the state. So as long as he is a resident by December 7th to register he can lawfully vote in the runoff.

But reading his call to action to me at least it sounds like he wants to participate in canvassing and getting out of state volunteers in place to support the candidates and not specifically to vote in the Georgian runoffs.

But yes, I imagine Andrew and Evelyn will probably vote as it will be legal

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My understanding is that there has always been bipartisan access for election observers and the trump campaign was simply suing for additional expanded access which is what was being denied in some ( but not all) cases. Yes?

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In fairness to lincoln project regarding Georgia Senate they did post this video a day ago:

https://youtu.be/cMJylhJMUT8

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

no one actually wants to prosecute their predecessors, its like theyve all silently agreed to not do it so the next guy wont do it to them

And how many presidents have actually abused their position as president to investigate their political opponents? Or to enrich their own family fortune? I'm not talking about 'putting themselves in a position to have a lucrative consulting job after their presidency ends' but literally throwing the governments money at their own business.

You can't compare Trump's actions to previous presidents but there is no apt comparison to make. He's on an entirely different level.

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Trump was also vocally pro choice before. You could argue that he only changed his stance on abortion when he needed to court the evangelical vote.

Your fianc is just a number to donald trump. A member of a demographic that is more likely to dance when he pulls on a particular string.

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That will depend very much on whether or not he is a convicted criminal.

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

https://twitter.com/RealDanielColey/status/1324739209937244161?s=20

The fact that it was still basically a tie means of like to see a turnout % for those demographics as well.

Winning a group 90/10 doesn't mean that much of they only represented 5% of the turnout.

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I also often include rifles in my first aid kit. It's truly one of the underused tools of medicine.

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Corrik7 posted...

Still waiting to see the civil war the liberals promised me.

We aren't promising it will happen, we are afraid it might happen.

Because trump has proven time and again to spout dangerous rhetoric which at times has inspired his supporters to take dangerous actions.

Nobody wants violence. Everybody wants Trump to accept the results of the election, concede the race and allow for a smooth transition of power.

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That man keeps punching me in the face.
When I have more power I'll change the rules so he can't punch me in the face anymore.

That person wants to stop me from punching them in the face.
When I have more power I'll change the rules so they can't stop me.

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Wang: both people want more power so they can change rules to benefit themselves. They are the same.

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Hive Sea Knee Off
Say it a bit weirdly and you get
I've Seen Enough

Implying that he's comfortable that the result won't flip back to trump I guess?

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"They didn't call PA for me when in was ahead by 700k votes but they called it for sleepy joe when he wasn't even ahead by 30k"

Could be what they are trying to avoid.

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Government shutdown? Well it's been awhile since I had a paid vacation

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GANON1025 posted...

So we ever figure out what as on hunters laptop or what

Which one??
That's the genius of having 78 different missing laptops. Hunter took a page out of Trump's book. If you have too many scandals then no one can keep track and if you have too many missing laptops then you never have time to figure out what's one one before the next one turns up.

Well played Hunter, well played.

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Do we really think NC is in play? And if so is that just based upon the potential for ballots to trickle in until Nov 12th?

Because if that's the case isn't it still possible for NC Senate to flip as well? The vote differential of 96,689 isn't that much different than Trump's lead of 76,737.

I'm not convinced either is truly in play, but it seems silly for it to be one and not the other. And NYTimes has NC reported at 95% reported for the presidential and 94% reported for the senate race. What is factoring into the missing 5/6%? Is that reporting from in person votes on election day or is that just an estimate of what may-or-may-not trickle in by mail?

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Without knowing anything about the Depp drama/lawsuits I just assumed it was because his character in those movies was terrible. I wasn't sure if that was the fault of Depp or the writer or direct, but still.

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So to the end of "All these pointless fraud claims are going to start circulating again, this is going to suck that we're all going to have to see these things" you decided to...post one of the pointless fraud claims almost entirely without comment and thus increase the circulation of them and force us to see it (again).

Yeah I can see why people find that annoying, Wang.

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Maybe try something this:

"Man, I'm already seeing a lot of people reposting false 'election fraud' stories. Like that one from September about the ballots that were in the wrong envelope and got thrown away. People are already posting that pointless crap, can you believe it?"

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That gets the point across, without doing the exact thing that you are saying sucks.

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Wanglicious posted...

https://www.justice.gov/usao-mdpa/pr/letter-luzerne-county-bureau-elections

Since Monday, FBI personnel have conducted numerous interviews and recovered and reviewed certain physical evidence. While at this point the inquiry remains active, based on the limited amount of time before the general election and the vital public importance of these issues, I will detail the investigators initial findings.
The FBI has recovered a number of documents relating to military ballots that had been improperly opened by your elections staff, and had the ballots removed and discarded, or removed and placed separately from the envelope containing confidential voter information and attestation. Specifically, a total of nine (9) military ballots were discovered to have been discarded. Seven (7) of those ballots when discovered by investigators were outside of any envelope. Those ballots were all cast for presidential candidate Donald Trump. One (1) of those seven (7) ballots was able to be identified to an envelope that was recovered, and thereby potentially tied to a specific voter. Two (2) military ballots that had been discarded were previously recovered by elections staff, reinserted into what appeared to be their appropriate envelopes, and then resealed. Therefore, the votes cast on those two (2) ballots are unknown. Thus, is appears that three (3) of the nine (9) recovered ballots can be potentially attributed to specific voters. Six (6) of the ballots were simply removed and discarded, and cannot be attributed to a specific voter at this time.

In addition to the military ballots and envelopes that were discarded and recovered as detailed above, investigators recovered four (4) apparently official, bar-coded, absentee ballot envelopes that were empty. Two (2) of those envelopes had the completed attestations and signatures on the reverse side. One (1) envelope with a handwritten return address was blank on the reverse side. The fourth empty envelope contains basic location information and the words affirmation enclosed on the reverse side. The majority of the recovered materials were found in an outside dumpster.

wheeeeee

edit:
and yes, i realize this was posted September 24th.
but i'm seeing this floating around again so you can expect to see more of this and other similar documents as evidence of fraud.

Is this for the 9 ballots that were "100% for trump" that were in the wrong envelopes?

Like I thought the issue was that these were ballots that were (incorrectly) placed into "ballot request" envelopes and were thus opened.

Or is this for something else?

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