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_SecretSquirrel posted...

NINTENDO SlXTY FOUR!

If I had been slightly younger that meme could have been me.
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Under the assumption that "doing things" would lose his base, he could literally just encourage his people to take the pandemic seriously without actually doing anything (different) at all about it, and he wins.
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Figgy pudding

I have never had figgy pudding
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When something terrible happens and sheer incompetence isn't a large factor, it's probably more on McConnell than Trump.
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Everyone Else: Pelosi sucks and I hate her but it's unreasonable to assign her full blame for this.

Corrik: Stop defending Pelosi! This is an establishment Democrat echo chamber!
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Hanukkah
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The last time ND played Alabama post-season it was such a blowout that Brent Musburger got drunk and started talking about how hot the Alabama quarterback's girlfriend was.
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*Snorlax and Pikachu

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Turkey

Hell no

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So you're saying that Notre Dame is making the better non-scoring plays because Clemson...keeps scoring too much?
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Yes, even with the Netflix seasons lobbying hard for a no
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Getting rid of the EC might lead to more instances candidates "divvying up territory" on the campaign trail, but to say that more people would get ignored than currently are is insanely laughable.
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If you want to go full lawful stupid, they had every opportunity to change census rules when they officially repealed slavery via amendment. The Mexican American War had already happened at this point, so people from there coming to American territory wasn't exactly a completely new concept.
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It's starting to get a very "stalker-ex" vibe to it.

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Bruh

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Bruh
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TomNook posted...

Those words are common insults toward people who donate money, and Twitch wants people to give as much money as possible without thought.

Pretty sure just one of those applies here (generally anyway).
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Your mom
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Ice Climbers

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Yeah, the closest precedent for what's happening after this election is whatever crazy shit Sarah Palin said in 2008.
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Give it time

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It definitely sounds like him, at least

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Announcing Barr's "resignation" is a desperate attempt to change the focus of the news cycle, which will work because it always does.
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Really, though, almost everything I use with ketchup is supposed to be eaten hot, and the ketchup itself is in amounts that take no time at all to warm up. So being refrigerated always seems pretty irrelevant.

Not like when you refrigerate syrup and don't heat it up. That shit is awful.
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I don't know if that applies when it's actually corn syrup though. Maybe?
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It's not mostly sugar. It's still mostly tomatoes.

However, that specificity aside, some of our confusion probably comes from Europeans that primarily use vinegar-based ketchup instead of sugar-based.
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Star Wars

unfortunate

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TheRock1525 posted...

I'm not. The more fractured the Republican Party becomes the better. They need to start taking sides and go full Civil War.

I think he meant all the people saying they wouldn't vote in GA runoffs? That's not exactly disparate from your point.

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Xeybozn posted...

But if Trump vetoes it, Republicans who originally voted supported it could flip on the re-vote. Considering how important it is for them to follow Trump 100% or face primary challenges, I'd expect at least some of them to do that.

Honestly, given the pulse of his base lately, if I were in their shoes I would be significantly less concerned about this than I would have been even a week ago.

Edit: That's not to disagree with your point, just that it seems like a less surefire political strategy now.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Secondly, this all started because I said I dont get the liberal worship of this guy, and you have gotten so wrapped up in...whatever this is, that you literally said Im saying he alone is the scum of the Earth.

I mean that was your initial statement, sure, but it definitely seems like you cut deeper than that past it. I'm not saying I'm not embellishing a bit with my phrasing there, but I also wasn't quoting you on those exact words either. I've tried to be very clear when I do that.

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

As Ive acknowledged if youd actually read my posts Kev, there are extenuating circumstances AND sure, his response was not unreasonable, but that doesnt make it not what it was, a mistake.

But calling it a mistake or a fuck-up that he should be held against him is saying he could have known with 100% certainty the absolute right thing to do at this point. He could have just assumed cloth masks were worth it right from the start and that would have ended up better for us at the time, but that would have just been a guess at the time. And it also ignores that mask protocols, even then, were not the only advice being given at the time. If we quarantined sooner and for longer (and were given more support to do so), mask advice would be more trivial than it is.

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

And of course here come the Bernie comparisons. Cant just address my comments, have to go on the attack.

I didn't attack Bernie or you for liking him. It's a surface level, theoretical comparison to a guy you like solely because it shouldn't be that easy to get you to turn on him. I purposely didn't come up with something he's actually said or done because I'm not trying to make this a point of attack.

(Side note: I'm not a Bernie supporter, but I like the guy just fine. And while I've taken issue with things his supporters have said, you included, that doesn't mean I think you're wrong for supporting him like I think for supporters of certain other politicians, who shall remain nameless.)

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

i'll give tony some credit and say that the entire concept of there being one singular "guardian of the year" (which started this whole debate) is pretty stupid tbqh. not to discredit fauci, but there's been tons of people besides him working very hard to reduce the spread of covid this year. seems like some dumb effect of celebrity culture that there needs to be one "hero" we all look up to.

Unfortunately what you're describing is a timeless flaw in human nature.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

but apparently youve decided to read everything I post in the worst way possible.

No, I've just decided to actually read what you post as you post it. I'm sorry that shifty eyes don't carry the full meaning you seem to want them to carry, or that you can't recognize the difference between "repeating the same overly simplistic generalization about the rest of the world outside the US until it magically becomes the abosulte truth" is anything close to what I was doing by calling him on it twice.

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

I said the hero worship of Fauci is stupid because he fucked up majorly. I dont CARE if his intent was good, you dont reward people for major fuckups just because Trump is against them.

And I'm saying that you are looking at one point of time in a bubble and not only ignoring the context of why things were the way they were at that point (ie lack of perfect knowledge for a new disease), but also ignoring nine months of what he's done since. It would be like me narrowly focusing on one bad thing Bernie's ever said as reason that no one should ever like him and then being just completely confused as to why you and plenty of others still liked him.

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

foolmo can correct me if Im wrong, but IM not framing the people disagreeing as anti-mask, so I honestly dont know what youre talking about here at all. You seem to be arguing against some completely different person, and its made you hate me somehow too?

Well when you say, and again I quote, 'You are actually arguing that doing the wrong thing had no effect', I can only assume you're talking about my actual arguments. Since you're using quote marks to attribute a statement to me that I have never once said, I'm gonna have a hard time responding to whatever you've dreamed up in the way you want me to.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

My guy, only one side of this discussion keeps repeating the same thingin fact <_< You just did it for this comment.

You are actually arguing that doing the wrong thing had no effect. How is that a logical position?

Foolmo's literally said, and I quote, "I am glad to repeat my same argument" and you're going to isolate the one part I somewhat repeated myself to say I'm the only one doing it? Dear lord...

And no, I'm not arguing doing the wrong thing has no effect. I'm saying quite the opposite if you actually read the rest of my post you quoted. I'm arguing that neither Fauci nor anyone else knew any damn better with the level of certainty we have learned since, but somehow that makes him and him alone the scum of the damn earth to you.

I'm well aware that foolmo's been trying to frame this conversation as people disagreeing with him are anti-mask. I wasn't even going to directly address it because I didn't think anyone was naive enough to take that bait, but I should have learned by now that you give way too much leeway to anyone arguing on the same side as you.

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foolm0r0n posted...

Normally people grasp for another straw when they are proven wrong, so yeah I am glad to repeat my same argument. I've been trying to rephrase it in more agreeable ways but I'm not perfect.

My last repetition is this: To say it was good to have anti-mask messaging in March and then flip to pro-mask a month later is to say that exactly 1 government in the world handled pandemic messaging correctly, and it was Trump's US.

Funny, it's my experience that people just shout the same thing over and over when proven wrong as if the world is a binary True/False problem. You've done nothing to dissuade me of that.

The early international messaging from countries that got Covid before us wasn't even to wear a mask. It was pretty myopically focused on washing your hands thouroughly. Still a good thing to do, mind you, but not consistent with the history you've rewritten.

Also, lets say that literally every country adopted masks immediately the second Covid showed up where they live, despite the fact that that's not actually true. That means that masks did absolutely nothing to help the countries that got hit the hardest before us like Italy. Good thing that's not actually what happened and that masks do help stop the spread, because otherwise the rest of the world would be just as badly off as we are now!

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My friend who lives in Cumberland, which is technically still Cobb despite being an Atlanta address, waited over 8 hours to vote the first day in the general this year. Might be different at the other polling places.

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

Locations changed but looks like I still have an early voting place 3 miles away for when it opens tomorrow. Fingers crossed I can knock that out on break, have had a lot of luck with speedy voting this year so far.

I would not try the very first day, personally.

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I guess it's been a while since I engaged with him. Honestly this is really a bit disappointing.

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foolm0r0n posted...

You don't, since the benefit of a pro-mask culture early in the pandemic is measurable and supported by dozens of other countries. Thanks for the example of choosing ignorance in order to suit our own narrative though!

You're literally just saying the same thing over and over like a toddler to prove your point now.

I've thought many things of you foolmo, but I've never considered you this lazy until now.

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foolm0r0n posted...

That's true if we just ignore all the other countries who were pro-mask from the start and had much better curves.

You also have to ignore that they had much more stringent quarantining and that some of our best curve flattening was when we were also actually quarantining, masks or not, until we got bored of it because you're gonna stay disingenuously laser-focused on one uncited aspect of a complicated situation to defend your own bullshit.

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To put it simply, no one without a time machine or precognition was going to do any better.
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Paratroopa1 posted...

If you think every anti-masker is a Trumper you're not paying attention. Anti-maskers aren't just devoted cultists who are attending protests and calling it a Democratic conspiracy. Anti-maskers are also people who leave their masks at home and don't worry about it because they've heard they don't work before and aren't sure whether or not they're necessary, and that confusion started in march 2020.

It's been thoroughly explained why that information changed by those same sources. They were also recommending complete and total stay at home orders during this time. This demographic you've invented that were super-informed about one piece of information only about Covid and haven't learned anything else about it in nine months does not exist in any significant capacity.
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Do I really need to explain that the information on a virus that literally did not exist a few months prior wasn't immediately perfect? Are people in this topic really actually not comprehending that?
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UshiromiyaEva posted...

Not going to pretty if Trump gets arrested, either. Based on the news this morning looking more likely.

Forget worries about him not vacating the White House. I'm starting to suspect he won't be in the country when his term is up.
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https://twitter.com/CitizenCohn/status/1337550810876702721?s=19
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I kind of want it to be M'Baku but my money is on Okoye.
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Despite the ways some news briefs phrased it, I'd be shocked if that didn't mean a different character became Black Panther and that T'Challa specifically wasn't being recast.
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Oh I didn't say Tony achieved it by any means. Even shitposting I won't take that far.
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Also with all the bullshit going on these days I missed that we were staring down the barrel of another government shutdown today until the Senate stopgapped it for a week.
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Tony is really trying to take the mantle of worst poster in these topics.
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