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Topic | Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 14: The Offseason |
KCF0107 08/26/20 9:47:53 PM #75 | Raiders have released QB Jared Zabransky --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 14: The Offseason |
KCF0107 08/26/20 9:36:45 PM #74 | With nine voters, I decided six yes votes were required for enshrinement with Dominique Byrd and George Foster needing five due to abstained votes. Here are your results: TE Dominique Byrd - 0 HB Cornell Brockington - 1 DE Adbul Hodge - 1 MLB Gerris Wilkinson - 1 SS Michael Huff - 1 G Brandon Moore - 2 SS Thomas Davis - 3 HB Courtney Lewis - 5 WR Roddy White - 7 OT George Foster - 7 DT LeKevin Smith - 8 MLB Lofa Tatupu - 8 HB Adrian Peterson - 9 WR Michael Clayton - 9 CB Adam Jones - 9 Congrats to this season's Hall of Famers! --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 14: The Offseason |
KCF0107 08/26/20 9:15:20 PM #72 | Hall of Fame voting is closed and the selections will be revealed live in Discord and later posted here --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Your First Thought 91: "Game you really liked but now you don't." |
KCF0107 08/26/20 6:56:40 PM #7 | Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney Trials and Tribulations --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | August Game of the Month Club ft. A Short Hike, Yooka-Laylee, and CTR |
KCF0107 08/26/20 2:00:32 PM #86 | Yakuza 0 is on sale for $5 USD for PC via Steam through Chrono (if you haven't heard of them, they are legit, but their shtick is that they offer a different game each day, so you would have to be quick about this). https://www.chrono.gg You need to be mindful that there are options for an EU or ROW (rest of the world) key, and they further tell you what countries the key cannot be redeemed in. Unless my eyes deceived me, then there were countries in both lists, like the UK, so pay close attention. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Your First Thought 90: "The definitive 90s video game." |
KCF0107 08/26/20 1:34:39 PM #86 | Super Mario World --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | August Game of the Month Club ft. A Short Hike, Yooka-Laylee, and CTR |
KCF0107 08/26/20 1:33:08 PM #85 | Yeah, definitely play Xillia before Xillia 2. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 14: The Offseason |
KCF0107 08/25/20 8:32:49 PM #69 | Just a reminder that Hall of Fame voting is still going on, and I plan on doing the "ceremony" tomorrow evening. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | What Pokémon's the best? |
KCF0107 08/25/20 8:30:53 PM #7 | I know of 2.5 of these. I know what a Growlithe is, but I don't know what the deal is about this dude James' Growlithe. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 14: The Offseason |
KCF0107 08/25/20 7:41:04 PM #68 | Another trade to announce Panthers receive: DT Gerald McCoy (86 overall, 28 years old) Steelers receive: Panthers 2nd round pick (58th overall) Panthers 3rd round pick (90th overall) The Steelers will incur a $2.3 mil cap penalty to clear $6.61 mil in cap space The Panthers will assume a $5.46 mil cap hit this season The Panthers continue their trend of using trades and free agency to build their roster by trading away two draft picks for the 28-year-old McCoy as they plan to move on from 34-year-old superstar Claude Wroten. The Steelers are looking to shed cap space and saw McCoy as one of their prime trade targets. Both parties exhibited that they understood what each party was giving up and receiving, the financial impact, the history of McCoy, and why each team hoped to achieve (kind of). This trade is now official. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | August Game of the Month Club ft. A Short Hike, Yooka-Laylee, and CTR |
KCF0107 08/25/20 7:26:29 PM #78 | I may play Yakuza 0. Not realizing how long Okami was all those years ago despite having previously gone through it, I forced myself to play it every day, and it still took me the full month to beat it. While Yakuza 0 is on my list of Game Pass games I want to try (I've had it downloaded for awhile too), it is supposed to be 30+ hours without touching much of the side content, and I don't want to rush myself and not be able to fully enjoy myself (with the assumption that it is an enjoyable game that I would want to play to its end). --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | August Game of the Month Club ft. A Short Hike, Yooka-Laylee, and CTR |
KCF0107 08/25/20 6:42:33 PM #74 | As for sales for this current month... Yooka-Laylee is on sale for $8 USD ($6.40 if you subscribe to Humble Choice) for PC via Steam through Humble https://www.humblebundle.com/store/yooka-laylee Crash Team Racing Nitro-Fueled is on sale for $24 USD for Switch https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/crash-team-racing-nitro-fueled-switch/ --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | August Game of the Month Club ft. A Short Hike, Yooka-Laylee, and CTR |
KCF0107 08/25/20 6:37:22 PM #73 | Yakuza 0 is on Game Pass for XB1 and PC --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | August Game of the Month Club ft. A Short Hike, Yooka-Laylee, and CTR |
KCF0107 08/25/20 6:34:19 PM #72 | 1. Yakuza 0 2. Stick It to The Man! 3. Splatoon 2 4. Assassin's Creed II 5. Stillness of the Wind, The 6. Peggle 2 7. Hylics 8. Hypnospace Outlaw 9. Mercenaries Saga: Will of the White Lions 10. Enter the Gungeon 11. GRIS 12. Poi 13. Mega Man X3 14. Her Story 15. Duke Nukem 3D 16. Hades 17. Stanley Parable, The 18. Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble 19. Yooka-Laylee and the Impossible Lair 20. Wario World 21. Pyre --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | August Game of the Month Club ft. A Short Hike, Yooka-Laylee, and CTR |
KCF0107 08/25/20 6:33:03 PM #71 | And your September Games of the Month are... Yakuza 0 (PC/XB1/PS4/PS3) Stick It to The Man! (PC/PS4/PS3/Vita) Congrats to Paul and Fake for having their games selected! In addition, the voting for MMX's birthday poll was a tie, but he had mentioned that he wanted Tales of Xilla 2 (PS3) to be the winner, so that will be our third game. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | August Game of the Month Club ft. A Short Hike, Yooka-Laylee, and CTR |
KCF0107 08/25/20 6:06:30 PM #70 | Okay, additions/changes are closed, and I will draw soon-ish. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | August Game of the Month Club ft. A Short Hike, Yooka-Laylee, and CTR |
KCF0107 08/25/20 4:56:43 PM #69 | Last call for noms and changes --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 14: The Offseason |
KCF0107 08/25/20 4:07:04 PM #63 | 3 hours it is then lol. I will be there at 7 ET --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 14: The Offseason |
KCF0107 08/25/20 3:43:54 PM #60 | I don't know whenever if you are talking about today --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 14: The Offseason |
KCF0107 08/25/20 3:10:26 PM #58 | I guess we can set up an appointment --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Your First Thought 89: "Best video game bromance." |
KCF0107 08/25/20 1:51:07 AM #55 | Shepard and Garrus --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | August Game of the Month Club ft. A Short Hike, Yooka-Laylee, and CTR |
KCF0107 08/25/20 12:44:49 AM #66 | It looks like I won't get around to replaying A Short Hike until after the drawing. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 14: The Offseason |
KCF0107 08/24/20 4:41:00 PM #56 | All PMs have been sent out. Two teams did not have an RFA, so if you didn't receive one, that is why. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 14: The Offseason |
KCF0107 08/24/20 4:21:45 PM #55 | RFA Rules 1. I will privately contact every user and inform them of their RFAs and the tender levels. If you dont have any RFAs, then you wont be notified. 2. Users will have three days to inform me which players they wish to sign and at what level. 3. I will publicly reveal all RFAs from user and A.I. teams that can be signed by other teams (AKA were offered a tender) plus their tender levels and the base kind of deal they are looking for. 4. I will give users five days to decide any action, if any, they wish to take. If they do wish to take further action, they will PM me. Now by "any action you wish to take," I mean that everyone has an opportunity to attempt to sign RFAs from other teams. You might see some sticker shock but keep in mind that some positions are more expensive (WRs, DTs, QBs) than others (OLBs, Cs, TEs) relative to their overall rating. An 80 WR will usually be more expensive than a 90 C, and that's just how things are 5. If a team attempts to sign another teams RFA, then the user who owns the RFAs rights will have three days to decide whether or not to match the offer. The deadline for the first phase (encompassing rule #s 1 + 2) will be Thursday, August 27th at 9 PM ET. As always, do not hesitate to ask me any questions. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 14: The Offseason |
KCF0107 08/24/20 4:18:53 PM #54 | Restricted Free Agency This minor but oddly detailed offseason event is for a small subset of players who just completed their untampered rookie contract that was exactly three years in length. These players are not eligible to be originally offered multi-year contracts by the team that holds their rights but instead one-year contracts of fixed figures based on the tender level that you offer them. Our Tender Levels for this season No Tender = no potential draft pick compensation = $0 Low Tender = potential original round draft pick compensation = $1.04 mil Mid Tender = potential 1st round draft pick compensation = $2.28 mil High Tender = potential 1st + 3rd round draft pick compensation = $3.03 mil Now, the mentioning of draft pick compensation there is only applicable if another team attempts to sign your player. It has no bearing on this first phase of RFA. It wouldn't make much sense if you had to give up draft picks to sign your own player now would it? Newcomers and people who don't have a good memory are certainly free to ask me what round a player was drafted in if that affects their tender level. That being said, you might want to keep in mind about that draft pick compensation when you determine what tender to offer your player. If you think highly of your player, you might want to offer the highest tender to deter other teams from attempting to sign them. If you don't consider a player to be a part of your future plans, you might want to offer the low tender so that they barely count against your cap space and you could end up even getting draft pick compensation if someone else wants him. A word of advice from me: The full monetary amount attached to the tenders is NOT GUARANTEED and in many cases is less than what they would make on the open market, so there is essentially 0 risk to offering all of your players a tender unless you personally hate them with a passion. You can also engage trade talks with other teams so that you can prearrange a trade that if X player is not signed by another team, you will trade them to Y team for Z compensation that might be lower than what Y team would have had to give up to sign them during RFA. In this scenario, you might want to offer the highest tender level to deter the maximum amount of teams from disrupting the trade. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 14: The Offseason |
KCF0107 08/24/20 4:08:07 PM #53 | Holdouts or trade demands? Those are two different things. There are three options for both: 1. Let them sit 2. Cut them 3. Trade (demand) or Re-sign (holdout) It honestly depends on what settings you may have for how the AI handles things and just RNG. In B8NFLL though, I would say that the AI has been more likely to cut players demanding trades and give in to players holding out for a better deal. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 14: The Offseason |
KCF0107 08/24/20 3:57:25 PM #51 | Before I begin posting and PMing RFA stuff, there has been a trade Bears receive: LT Jake Long (87 overall, 30 years old) Jets receive: LE Lawrence Jackson (81, 35) LG Chaz Green (80, 23) HB Branden Oliver (78, 23) The Bears will incur a $1.56 mil cap penalty to turn $10.1 mil cap hits into $2.99 mil The Jets will incur a $4.68 mil cap penalty to turn a $4.55 mil cap hit into $8.53 mil The Bears are looking at Jake Long as hopefully the retired Jordan Gross' replacement. This also frees up a lot of money for one of the more cap strapped user teams and gives them more flexibility in the draft. The Jets didn't have a lot of leverage as Long was holding out, but they were able to able to get a haul that fit some of their needs. They lost four DEs to retirement, so getting a top backup in Jackson who has 84 career sacks is a great start. They also get two 23-year-old backups with multiple years of control for an offense where six of its 11 starters are 32 or older. As the Bears were the only user team, they understood Long's recent history, the financial implications, and what both teams hope to get out of the trade. This trade is now official. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 14: The Offseason |
KCF0107 08/23/20 7:53:24 PM #47 | All team financials are updated, so we will begin Restricted Free Agency tomorrow --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Your First Thought 87: "Most earth-shattering game reveal ever." |
KCF0107 08/23/20 4:08:09 AM #65 | Halo 2 --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | August Game of the Month Club ft. A Short Hike, Yooka-Laylee, and CTR |
KCF0107 08/23/20 2:29:46 AM #60 | I won three races in CTR today. One was my first time playing the course (Drive-Thru Danger), so winning was unexpected. The second was another one where I felt like I had no business winning (Electron Avenue). I think the person who led for most of the race just completely choked. The final was a rarity where I actually crushed the competition (Clockwork Wumpa). Feeling confident enough in my skills against human players, I felt like I was more than qualified to try the adventure mode on hard now. My very first race I was pounded with item after item, and I finished in last by a mile. I have lost all confidence in beating it on hard, so I'm going to continue playing online until I buy the last two characters and then take a hiatus. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | What's the best game you've played this year? |
KCF0107 08/22/20 6:36:30 AM #5 | Ori and the Will of the Wisps for sure --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Your First Thought 86: "Game not worth its full original price tag." |
KCF0107 08/22/20 12:48:47 AM #52 | Amazing Island It was only $40, but I went to Toys R Us to buy Pikmin 2, so I paid $40 for a game that was only good for its monster creation tools and the opportunity cost of waiting another week to buy Pikmin 2. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Best Fast Food Burger Day 2 |
KCF0107 08/22/20 12:35:29 AM #4 | Since I guess we are lumping in fast casual with fast food here, Five Guys easily, but I also don't eat out much and have only tried four of these in my lifetime, and I probably haven't had a Whopper or Big Mac since I was in middle school. That just leaves Five Guy's > White Castle sliders --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | August Game of the Month Club ft. A Short Hike, Yooka-Laylee, and CTR |
KCF0107 08/22/20 12:32:11 AM #58 | Monthly Progress Hike - Ark, Abacus, Metal, MMX, Cody Yooka - KCF, MZero CTR - Paul, KCF Nominations Abacus - Duke Nukem 3D Ark - GRIS, Enter the Gungeon Cody - Her Story, Hades KCF - Peggle 2, Poi, Yooka-Laylee Lair Metalmind - Stanley Parable MMX - Hypnospace Outlaw, Mega Man X3 Paul - Wario World, Hyrule Warriors Wickle - Assassin's Creed II MMX Birthday Voting Tales of Symphonia 2 - Abacus Tales of Xillia 2 - Crispy Drawing likely on, you guessed it, Tuesday the 25th --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | August Game of the Month Club ft. A Short Hike, Yooka-Laylee, and CTR |
KCF0107 08/22/20 12:29:30 AM #57 | Oh, we are getting closer to the end of the month than I realized. I should replay A Short Hike soon then. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | How did I not know the new Battletoads came out? |
KCF0107 08/22/20 12:28:06 AM #14 | Yeah, it was originally going to be Dinosaur Planet, but then Star Fox and a few Arwing sections were put in for whatever reason (obviously marketing). --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | What is the best Xbox 360 game? |
KCF0107 08/22/20 12:26:10 AM #38 | Well, Batman: Arkham Asylum it is! I will hopefully remember to return to these when the XB1, PS4, and Switch are done. I suppose I could do a Super Mario World vs A Link to the Past poll since I held those two out of the SNES poll back in like 2014 or whenever I began these. Previous Results: SNES (after LttP and SMW) - Biker Mice From Mars DS - Hotel Dusk: Room 215 PS2 - Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King Xbox - Halo 2 Gamecube - Super Smash Bros. Melee GBA - Fire Emblem N64 - Super Mario 64 Wii - Super Mario Galaxy 2 360 XBLA - Shadow Complex PS3 PSN - Mega Man 10 3DS - The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds Wii U - Super Mario 3D World PS3 - Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 360 - Batman: Arkham Asylum --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Apex Season 6 Topic - Mozambique Buff |
KCF0107 08/22/20 12:11:26 AM #4 | I still have yet to play as Crypto (or Rampart but that one is understandable) --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Apex Season 6 Topic - Mozambique Buff |
KCF0107 08/22/20 12:10:25 AM #3 | I used to avoid energy weapons since Devotion was relegated to the care packages and L-Star/Havoc were just whatever to me. However, I am really liking this Volt. I feel like each season, I have a different preferred weapon setup. Overall, I have always liked a G7 Scout/Spitfire combo, but I have been rolling with Hemlock/Volt more than other combos this season. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | How did I not know the new Battletoads came out? |
KCF0107 08/22/20 12:00:26 AM #9 | TheRock1525 posted... Almost everything since about 2000. Games that I would consider to be good developed by Rare that came out in 2001 or later: - Conker's Bad Fur Day - Mickey's Speedway USA - Star Fox Adventures - Kameo: Elements of Power - Viva Pinata - Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise - Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts I own but have yet to play Sea of Thieves, but I keep hearing good things about it. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 14: The Offseason |
KCF0107 08/21/20 11:56:11 PM #40 | I could have done more, but I didn't want to have too many HBs (Lonta Hobbs) or WRs (Martin Nance). There were more OL (Mike Pearson and Jordan Gross) and DL (Gerald Anderson) that I could have done too, but I opted for a 15 person max (like in real life) and more variety. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 14: The Offseason |
KCF0107 08/21/20 7:25:24 PM #38 | Bengals and Raiders should have all contract info on the team financial sheet. I will start updating teams that were already under user control soon. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Hey Weaku, did you ever watch this? [Speed Racer] |
KCF0107 08/21/20 6:43:50 PM #4 | I forget if Weaku is who Snrkiko or whatever is. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | August Game of the Month Club ft. A Short Hike, Yooka-Laylee, and CTR |
KCF0107 08/21/20 2:06:27 PM #55 | No because I don't want people to be influenced by the birthday person. Should the voting end in a tie, then you would choose which game to do. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | What is the best Xbox 360 game? |
KCF0107 08/21/20 12:36:10 AM #37 | Still a two-game race --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 14: The Offseason |
KCF0107 08/20/20 10:21:01 PM #37 | To Do: - Update team financial sheet and make sure to first convert Bengals and Raiders to user info - Decide what trade package to accept on behalf of the Jets for LT Jake Long (I plan on making the deadline Sunday) - Start RFA (probably Monday or so) - Hall of Fame "ceremony" (probably middle of next week) --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 14: The Offseason |
KCF0107 08/20/20 10:19:01 PM #36 | MLB Lofa Tatupu - Yes It is really hard to get Pro Bowl recognition as a LB, so I'm not holding that against him. Tatupu finished his career with a Rookie of the Year, LB of the Year, and Defensive Player of the Year award, tied a B8NFLL record, and he retired 1st or 2nd among active players in most defensive stats at LB. He accomplished virtually all that he could as an individual and is more than worthy of a spot in the Hall of Fame in my eyes. MLB Gerris Wilkinson - No Much like Eric Weddle last season, I suspect his career will be a surprise to nearly everyone. The fact that nobody bothered to sign him in S12 and still ended high up there in some stats is surprising to me. However, other than tackles, he didn't light up the stat sheet that much, and while I said it is tough to get Pro Bowl recognition as a LB in the league, he didn't get any recognition whatsoever, and I am pretty confident he was never an award finalist. A good career for a former 3rd round pick who bounced around the league, but he's not a hall of famer in my book. CB Adam Jones - Yes CBs are probably the toughest to gauge of how good they are, but with Jones averaging over 2 INTs a season, Pro Bowl nods with both franchises that he played for, and being able to maintain an 80+ rating for his entire career, I feel like that has to count for something. A spot in the Hall of Fame? Maybe not for some people, but I'm willing to set him as the benchmark. SS Thomas Davis - No He has some nice counting stats for being able to stay healthy (195 out of 208 games) during his career, but he was named, and ultimately won, to the Breakout Player of the Year award in his final season. He was able to become the first DB to win Defensive Player of the Year, but he was an above-average to good starter for the other 12 seasons of his career. He definitely carried the Falcons secondary the past several seasons, but that simply isn't enough for me. SS Michael Huff - No Huff started almost 90 fewer games (thanks to being a career backup in Miami) than Davis, but blew past him in the INT department despite not seeing the field on defense anywhere near as much. Huff was the DB of the Year winner before Davis, so he does have some hardware, but because he played only on certain packages in Miami, his sack, FF, and FR stats just aren't at the levels (even if their rankings are relatively nice) that I am looking for in a candidate. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 14: The Offseason |
KCF0107 08/20/20 9:55:56 PM #35 | TE Dominique Byrd - No TEs are really hard to gauge as they don't put up eye-popping stats on a seasonal basis, and a lot of them just kind of bunch up together and don't distinguish themselves from one another when it comes to receiving stats. I think Byrd was able to somewhat distinguish himself as one of the best TEs in the league's history, but even with six Pro Bowls and a TE of the Year award, I just don't know if he's the first TE that we should put in the Hall of Fame. Right now, I am saying no, but I could change my mind. RT George Foster - Yes Having a block:sack ratio over 13 is really great everyone. It's wild thinking how much the offensive skill position players failed this team over the first 10 or so seasons of the league because they had three, imo, Hall of Fame OL on that team (G Tutan Reyes, C Chukky Okobi, and Foster). He also led the league in blocks twice and made five Pro Bowls, so that's just icing on the cake. RG Brandon Moore - No Moore had some rough individual seasons and played for some anemic offenses at times, but he still managed to get an overall high block total and a block:sack ratio of 6 as an interior lineman, which is great. However, I don't think it is great enough for Hall of Fame consideration especially when I see some of his contemporaries about to retire having stronger cases. LE Abdul Hodge - No I really just wanted to take the time to commemorate our first NFL Draft pick ever. He was screwed over by the Bears GM. He sat on the bench for four seasons as a backup MLB and was cut by the AI. I made him switch over to DE where he was signed by Washington, only to be a backup there. At the age of 30, he finally got to start his first NFL game and started all 112 games across his final seven seasons in the league. There is no way for me to determine a lot of the in-depth analytical stats that you can in real life, but I strongly suspect that Hodge was an elite run defender in his career. The fact that a converted MLB who was really a run-defender was able to amass 40 sacks in 7 seasons is pretty impressive. Alas, I don't think that I can say that he's Hall of Fame worthy, but kudos to arguably our most famous reclamation project. DT LeKevin Smith - Yes He was the backup DT in a 3-4 in his final season, so he really put up 86 games in 11 seasons. That's almost 8 a season, which is really tough to average (especially as a DT) as DL tend to age the poorest out of any position. He formed a tandem with fellow rookie DT Claude Wroten in Detroit, and for seven seasons and a SB victory, they were arguably the best DT duo in the league. Smith made three Pro Bowls, including his rookie season when he tied for the league lead with 14 sacks. Smith was a mainstay on a Lions team and at the time of his departure, he had been the longest-tenured defensive player on the team by three seasons. This probably doesn't scream Hall of Fame for anyone else (maybe Nee), and I don't know if anybody has a magical number for sacks/recognition that they are looking at DL, but Smith has always been underrated, underappreciated, and a personal favorite of mine throughout the league, and with me having a bias toward DL, I am saying yes to his candidacy. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 14: The Offseason |
KCF0107 08/20/20 9:27:43 PM #34 | As always, I will publicly reveal my ballot HB Adrian Peterson - Yes He's an obvious pick. He was the offensive identity of the Jags, a perennial playoff team, for essentially his entire career. He was always thought of as one of the elite HBs, even the best at times, around the league for his entire career. In spite of playing "just" 11 seasons with two where he missed at least half of the games and his final season where he missed five, he amassed over 13500 yards on 4.4 YPC and nearly 100 total TDs despite being a non-factor in the passing game. His 96.8 yards per game are the second highest among players with at least 1000 carries, and his 4.4 YPC is tied for the highest among HBs with at least 2000 carries. HB Cornell Brockington - No I put him on the ballot because of his counting stats, but I never considered him to be a Hall of Famer. He has some feel-good elements to his story like being one of the few long-term starting HBs to be taken after the 1st round of the draft, going to an abysmal franchise, enduring seasons of ugly football, and finally helping lead the franchise to its first playoff berth. However, he is basically a slightly better version of Cedric Benson. His 3.9 YPC is mediocre, and had a 4.0 or better in just four of his 11 seasons. Despite being healthy, he eclipsed the 1000 yard rushing mark in just five of his 11 seasons with a career high of 1164 yards. His role as a pass catcher really helped out QB Chris Leak's (they were taken in the same draft) development, but that doesn't make you a Hall of Famer. HB Courtney Lewis - Yes I expect to be the only vote for him, and I understand why because the counting stats just aren't there, but considering that he didn't even start five full seasons worth of games thanks to being a backup in Buffalo and Pittsburgh and a mid-season injury signing for the other three franchises he played after, it is remarkable that he was able to amass over 10000 total yards in his career. That is a testament to his skill and efficiency. Notable for being the first player selected from the Bills five draft picks that they acquired from the Tom Brady to Tampa Bay trade, he eventually showed that he was worthy of that selection, even if it had to be outside of Buffalo. In his three full seasons as a starter, he was a HB of the Year candidate every season and was once an Offensive Player of the Year candidate. If you were on board with Terrell Davis being rewarded for his short peak in real life, I think Lewis is an easy call too especially when you consider his status as a super-fill-in-sub for his time before Minnesota. WR Mark Clayton - Yes He holds the B8NFLL record for most career receptions and receiving yards (who knows both records will fall), and he did this while on some brutally bad offenses. Pre-Russell Wilson led offenses had some ugly passing games, yet he was able to be named co-WR of the Year in his rookie season. In addition to being the only WR to be named MVP, he also holds the B8NFLL record for most rec yards in a season. He's a slam dunk pick. WR Roddy White - No I had to give this some serious thought. Like Brockington, he has a feel-good story. He began with the Dolphins in the inaugural season as the #2 WR as a 77 overall rookie on the worst WR corps in the league. He was able to ascend to the mid-80s, but after they signed WR Andre Johnson in free agency in S4, he was relegated to the slot before being traded to the Hawks the following offseason. Becoming a #1 WR for the first time, he was able to climb up to the lower 90s and eventually eclipsed 1000 yards three times, including his final two seasons at the ages of 34 and 35. He has the counting stats, and it is unknown how career receiver stats will shake out now that almost none of the incumbent players when this league began are left in the league, but I think he was a very good player, sometimes great, but not elite. I may regret this if it turns out his stats will hold up as the league goes along, but my gut tells me to say no to his Hall of Fame candidacy. --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
Topic | Board 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 14: The Offseason |
KCF0107 08/20/20 8:44:04 PM #33 | I didn't bother to do ranking stats for a few players, but one that I want to point out is HB Courtney Lewis. As you can see, he didn't even have 80 starts to his name in his career, so his overall stat rankings wouldn't have looked all that impressive. I am going to break down his stats for every season to give people a better idea of who he was as a player S3 Bills - 30 carries for 110 yards, 6 receptions for 76 yards (8 games, 0 starts) S4 Bills - 156 carries for 621 yards, 23 receptions for 188 yards, 5 total TDs (16 games, 3 starts) S5 Bills - 97 carries for 438 yards, 11 receptions for 88 yards, 4 total TDs (16 games, 2 starts) S6 Bills - 88 carries for 351 yards, 4 receptions for 30 yards, 2 total TDs (12 games, 0 starts) S7 Panthers - 130 carries for 525 yards, 21 receptions for 185 yards, 3 total TDs (10 games, 8 starts) S8 Steelers - 50 carries for 244 yards, 5 receptions for 46 yards, 3 total TDs (16 games, 0 starts) S9 Dolphins - 169 carries for 786 yards, 14 receptions for 127 yards, 6 total TDs (11 games, 8 starts) S10 Vikings - 185 carries for 927 yards, 39 receptions for 402 yards, 6 total TDs (11 games, 11 starts) S11 Vikings - 343 carries for 1584 yards, 51 receptions for 395 yards, 11 total TDs (16 games, 16 starts) S12 Vikings - 352 carries for 1457 yards, 49 receptions for 360 yards, 9 total TDs (16 games, 16 starts) S13 Vikings - 250 carries for 1146 yards, 28 receptions for 170 yards, 12 total TDs (14 games, 14 starts) --- KCF can't actually be a real person but he is - greengravy If you smell what the rock is cooking he's cooking crap - ertyu |
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