Lurker > foolm0r0n

Lopen posted...

So I'm going to file you under "rar independent currency good derp I like the name brand one cause it has max cash value" as I originally filed you under

My goal isn't to get you to change your mind about me, it's to change your mind about bitcoin. I don't really care about that goal either.

It's just crazy how many of the hypotheticals you're talking about that literally already happened in history and you can look it up and see what happened, like this:
Lopen posted...

Also BTC could absolutely fall to that level if there was a hole in the algorithm found like what caused the ETH vs ETHC rift.

Especially if Bitcoin becomes the "classic" variant in that pairing

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Look up some more of the easter eggs they put in the last sequence to hint about time shenanigans. Lots of ways they could go in the next game.

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Lopen posted...

Imagine claiming like Fortran will be the most used programming language forever because it was leading in its field for the 1960s.

How about claiming Fortran is worthless because Brainfuck exists?

I'm not saying Bitcoin has longevity because it's been at the top for 12 years. That's what you're saying, because you're missing its fundamental strengths. No other coin has come out that is superior to Bitcoin in those strengths, so it is naturally still at the top. When one does come out, it could certainly take over. Ethereum is the closest to that (hence the risk of flippening a while ago) but none of the hundreds of other altcoin attempts have come close. And now that ETH switched to PoS, it has given up its competition with BTC, which is good overall for both.

Lopen posted...

The Dec 2020 dollar and Jan 2021 dollar are roughly the same value

No, it's crashed massively vs BTC. BTC on the other hand has been rock steady at 1 BTC. Don't even try talking about real-world goods like housing, gas, food since the USD story is pathetic there too. This is why you conveniently left out of your "three things" that a good currency needs to hold its value.

Also another important thing that will help your pro-USD arguments: Don't talk about USD as a 200 year old currency. Modern USD was created in 1973, so it's only 4x as old as Bitcoin.

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Finally bored enough to download this

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But Namek is part of Frieza and Android is part of Cell

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The prices totally change after hours. That's why you don't want to set a market buy after hours, since you have no idea what price it's going to open with then next day.

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I bought AMC last week but put a stop loss at $8 which it hit for like 30 seconds last week so I lost it. Not sure why I did that.

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Lopen posted...

but it also means your currency can basically become worthless if a better alternative arises and gets any sort of traction

Then why hasn't it. That's what I'm telling you to answer since you're missing it. You're talking like Bitcoin isn't the most attacked and competed and better-alternative'd thing in the history of money. (Also def look up how confirmations work after all coins are mined, it's really simple and clever... pretty sure it's in the original paper and wikipedia.)

Also that list of "three things" that conveniently excludes Bitcoin is straight from pro-fiat arguments. So my other question to you is then, why care bout Doge when USD does everything you described AND is widely adopted?

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Reg posted...

THUG > THPS3 and THPS1+2 is certainly a take...

I played the F out of 3 and 2 and the mere fact of being able to get off your board blew my mind. Now I realize it was janky and weird design but back then it was the best thing ever.

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also THUG

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Assassin's Creed if 3 counts

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Cells at work

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_foolmo_
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The pandemic's influence wasn't giving regular people more time (I doubt that's true in general), but it awakened a consciousness of the different rules that the different classes play by when it comes to stimulus/bailout/etc. That strengthened the meme of us vs them over the entire last year. WSB/GME absolutely did not cause any class consciousness, but it is the first big outlet for expressing it. There will definitely be more outlets.

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Nanis23 posted...

A community can't say "let's all buy X stock and hold it!". When you are small, maybe no one will notice you, but you still can't.
Pewdiepie or other super popular streamers can't just stream "Hi guys let's all buy $WEN because I like Wendy's and hamburgers are delicious"

Dumb comparison. You're treating an entire community of people like 1 person and wondering why the rules are different.

Who will you actually charge for the market manipulation? All 8 million members of the subreddit? The few ones with a high # of upvotes? It's totally arbitrary and oppressive.

And the fact is, hedge funds DO get together and collude on stocks to buy/short in small groups. Any law against reddit would absolutely go against them first. So let's see it.

Essentially what you're saying is that during the housing crisis, the people buying subprime mortgages should go to jail and not the bankers who set up the mortgages.

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ExThaNemesis posted...

honestly reading "LOTM was right" is enough to keep me holding forever

Literally my goal

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Also what I noticed with combat is that the character you control will get ATB like 5-10x faster than others, so you should control the one that needs ATB. If you don't really need ATB on your other chars then it's totally okay to just stay on your main char the whole time. This is also why it's balanced that your controlled character gets attacked mostly. More ATB has more risk.

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RikkuAlmighty posted...

No video game has made me smile so stupidly like this entire sequence just now

Yas

It's so perfect

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_foolmo_
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New investors don't realize what diamond hands actually means. You can't just read and post DIAMNOD HANDZZZ for a week straight and expect to be strong when the time comes. It's about patience. Intensely boring patience. The time hasn't even come yet.

I don't get why everyone is trying to predict the day the squeeze will happen. There is no day it has to happen. It could be months. There's an average T+2 closing time for shorts, but this is obviously not an average situation. They will wait because they know you're weaker than them, and they have way more to lose. But we don't have to pay super expensive interest to hold. It's a no brainer who should win.

But if you can't even hold for 72 hours then what are you even doing. LOTM was right.

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Lopen posted...

It follows real world currency dynamics and not some antiquated gold standard wannabe stuff.

Where do you get this lol. Doge is a variant of LTC and both are variants of BTC. They only differ slightly in their rules. Same with BCH and BSV and countless other variants. I actually didn't know Doge was inflationary until now. That's a big difference from BTC, and it makes it strictly worse.

Beyond that, you should figure out why BTC is still dominant when there are all these superior altcoins. It's the same reason why ETH is still around when we have LINK and thousands of other computation coins.

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Look at the history of Doge. It has never been more than a meme gamble and never escaped the crashes to zero. It's really hard to time so any profit you make is good, even if you're disappointed you missed the peak.

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Lopen posted...

As someone who researched the various cryptocurrencies with vague passing interest to invest I felt dogecoin had the most value as something useful to society aside from Ethereum or Ripple

The rest have no value. Including Bitcoin.

You should throw away your research and start again from scratch

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Id have actually been on the ground floor of a rocket if I kept my million DOGE.

Kill me

It's hit this price relative to BTC 8ish times before, you would've sold then

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Colegreen_c12 posted...

so the shorters could quietly close their positions one day

They can't though because they are over 100% shorted. That would mean closing positions when the stock is really high and making all the memer investors rich and happy. That's the dream scenario.

It's much safer for the shorters to just wait until things naturally cool down and then try to pounce on a relatively low price, which will trigger another short squeeze, and repeat that cycle gradually until all shorters are covered and all memers have exited. Then the price craters

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Colegreen_c12 posted...

If i have to cover why would i buy after a stock crashed 50% from its max. why wouldnt i just wait until it finished crashing and sell at its lowest.

If it's a gradual decline sure, but my assumption is that once most of the short positions are closed we are going to see a very quick drop.

Shorters are competing against other shorters, so they will fight to buy at the right time on the way down before their buys shoot the stock back up. They can't coordinate.

And yeah once the shorts are up, this thing craters. Most will have exited by then though.

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Colegreen_c12 posted...

If i set a stop loss for 300 but the stock free falls from 1000 to 100 in a very quick period of time i might end up selling for way less than 300.

Yeah but how does that happen on a highly shorted stock? They buoy the price as it falls which gives you plenty of time to sell.

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@lotm Yeah that's the whole point. The shorters will take all the hits on the way down as they compete to sell for the lowest price. Any crash is an opportunity for investors to safely sell to shorters. There's so much opportunity to get out when you want to that nearly all the risk is nullified. The higher it inflates, the more room you have to play and pull your parachute.

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If you bought in last week at 20 then you can stay in the game for a very long time, well after the shorters are liquidated and still be fine.

But if you bought in today at 350, then you might have to exit earlier. You'll still be fine though.

That's all it is. The later you buy the earlier you have to exit. It's just way safer now that the shorters are keeping the price up, so you prob won't hit your stop loss, even if you bought late.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

There's also going to be a huge transfer from wsb people who bought/sold late to people who bought/sold early.

Why though? If everyone puts a stop loss at the price they bought in on, who loses other than the shorters?

Those with weak hands will lose, sure, like any stock. But there's so much safe money to grab here.

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Y'all are buying bitcoin with your gains right

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To put it simply: Stocks are a zero sum game, so investors can typically only win by hurting other investors. In this case, the ones getting hurt are heavily weighted towards the shorters. Every $ a shorter loses is one that an investor can take as profit without hurting other investors.

So investors only start losing after all short $s are extracted. And that's a lot of fucking $s.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Some of them will be late sellers, thereby selling for less and getting screwed unless they bought correspondingly early.

Now add in the fact that the stock is 150% shorted and all of those positions will have to be covered before the price truly starts to crash (which will then generate more short interest which will buoy the price again, etc). Everyone who puts a stop loss at the price they bought in will be able to sell and get out before that. Literally the only ones who NEED to lose in this scenario are the shorters. There's also the crazies who will hold far beyond the crash, but they don't give a shit about losing the money.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

They're not the only ones buying shares

Because it's still going up. When it crashes then only shorters will be buying, because why the hell would you buy a crashing stock unless you were legally forced to?

The other thing you're missing is that even if 0 of us poor suckers bought the stock, it would still be going up as shorters are forced to close their positions. THEY are the ones driving the stock up, from the very beginning. Everyone is just along for the ride and can hop off at any time.

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Bartzyx posted...

lmao you wanna talk about elitism. half the country would lose everything if they lost 1k. yeah what's the big deal

Then those people put in like $100 or whatever they can afford. This isn't a difficult concept. You're not as smart as you think you are.

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The thing that will really slap the GME buyers across the face though: short term capital gains

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LordoftheMorons posted...

I mean I guess we'll see how people feel when they end up losing big

How big?

Some people are going deep on this but most have like $1k in it at most. What's the big deal when they lose it? Do you really think you're superior to everyone because you're too scared to risk a few $ on something awesome like this?

This is literally why this rally exists. It's a rejection of your brand of elitism. Stock traders think the public is too dumb to understand that if you buy something high then it might go low and you'll lose money. Like they are the only ones who understand this extremely simple concept and thus they should make the rules for the world. The GME buyers know what they are doing and are okay with the consequences. It's the shorters with 20+ years experience who have absolutely no clue what they are doing in this case.

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They were awesome and I definitely do not want to have them ever again. That memory is staying as it is.

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Shorts are fine. You can bet on stocks going up and you can bet on them going down. There's nothing inherently different about the positive and negative numbers. There's manipulation and corrupt incentives both ways. There's the life of a business caught in the crossfire but they knew the game they were entering when they went public.


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GTM posted...

as someone who knows nothing about this, can someone explain what shorting is and how is losing money or getting bankrupt when the stock kept getting higher and higher?

The key is this:

When you buy 1 stock at $100 and it goes to $0, you've lost $100

But when you short sell 1 stock at $100 and it rises up to $1000000, then you've lost $999900

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redrocket posted...

Now its time to cash out and dump it all into Bitcoin!

Kudos to anyone who actually does this

As someone who has no GME, I now understand what non-BTC people felt like in 2017. (Big difference is that BTC was only perceived as a meme bubble, while GME actually is one.)

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Now it's unreasonable

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For some perspective, it's a 15x rise from the bottom of $4. TSLA also had a 15x rise if you bought in before 2020. So it's not outrageous or anything. BTC has gone up 40x since 2017.

And it's not market manipulation, it's just a short squeeze that has gone too far since it's become a meme. The bubble will burst eventually and it will land somewhere decently high above $4 and most everyone except the shorters will be happy.

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I knew mental health care was bad but I didn't know it was literally prison like that. Prison might even be better. So your post definitely helps with that awareness at least.

You should definitely talk with E imo. She is an example of a 3rd party who would gladly help you in this kind of situation, unlike the cops. She already knows the situation so there's nothing to lose.

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Side note I've never loved MGS3 more than after playing V. The amount of narrative joy it gives you in the first 10 minutes compared to the entire 50 hours of V is crazy.

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I love the cutscenes, and I love the gameplay/aesthetic of Act 3, but together they're like oil and water.

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SantaRPidgey posted...

It would make more sense that vlado is ertyu's alt than vise versa.

Is this not what people mean when they say vlado is ertyu? There's no way vlado is a more plausibly realistic person than ertyu

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ctesjbuvf posted...

What part of the story in particular do you find disastrous? I'm curious about this.

The pacing pretty much. The sneaking in chapter 3 totally kills the momentum, and then all the cutscenes start getting really long. You have to skip them on a replay otherwise you're spending literally 3/4ths of your time watching cutscenes. It's not like 2 and 3 where you have a bunch of cool little scenes that you enjoy rewatching over and over and memorizing. I can't imagine doing that with the 1.5 hours ending sequence, even though there's great stuff in there.

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4 is really fun to replay, especially doing no kill no alert. But it does not nearly have the depth of 3, and the story is kinda disastrous. Still a good addition to the series imo, especially since it enabled MGR.

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I mean he was super annoying

Heroic Bigpun posted...

"oh ye

Tats how u do it"

But just reading this was so damn funny

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ctesjbuvf posted...

The moment he saluted was when I almost went to tears.

You could have pressed R1

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When this hits 500, America stops being under attack

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