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redrocket posted...

why not?

My tinfoil hat take is that they just wanted to make a sweet commander bait meme card and then didn't test it in Standard at all

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I dont think Omnath is too unreasonable a ban - there are plenty of other new cards that can sell the set. And honestly? I dont think Omnath was intended be a Constructed staple chase mythic.

Other than that I think it's just Uro's time. Everyone seems to be sick of that card so just let Historic be the Arena format with Uro and move on.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

https://twitter.com/RonBrownstein/status/1310015247902584832

Get ready for wave 3

Your first and second waves ended? Must be nice

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yoshi-p says get fucked naysayers

https://twitter.com/aitaikimochi/status/1310222847055257601?s=19

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/26/us/politics/minneapolis-defund-police.html

If you remember, Minneapolis made a resolution to disband their police force following the protests. The whole thing and even most reforms, budget changes, or oversight stalled out due to a bunch of various politics. Good, but disappointing read.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

What the fuck is this shit

https://twitter.com/NRSC/status/1309962935356325891

Notorious All Cops Bastards

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Jakyl25 posted...

Right I get that

But it doesnt say anything about why he was stopped

It doesnt really matter from a procedural debate standpoint if they killed a legit bad guy circumstantially

You're right, I assumed since he had a warrant out they'd have a description of his vehicle but even the press release only mentions a normal traffic stop "on a felon", but no indication they knew who he was at the time. I can agree with that.

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Jakyl25 posted...

If they were pulling him over because of warrants for violent crimes then I retract my criticism

The article really buries the lede but he was a known member of a white supremacist gang (aka, terrorist organization).

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Not gonna lie, that ad is pretty good and got a laugh out of me. One thing they could have improved is have it raise money for something that isn't The Lincoln Project, though.

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RaidenGarai posted...

Too bad Trump will never admit this part. Hell keep using this as an example of how its rigged

Yes the takes have already begun.

Push for mandatory enforcement of rules that would invalidate ballots, then accuse the opponent of cheating when they're actually enforced. What a scam.

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So on the discarded Trump ballots in PA, it seems to be because of the recent ruling on privacy envelopes. Democrats were trying to get rid of that requirement but the courts ruled against them. This interfered with the write-in military ballots, which use a different process and were already sent out, and well...

https://twitter.com/TimAlberta/status/1309290030347808770?s=19

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Reg posted...

I'm seeing Hegar ads when I watch local news or w/e, but it feels like the only one I've actually seen out of her was playing up her military credentials and I'm pretty sure it's the same one I saw during the primary election? And nothing online obv, but I don't watch ads online anyways.

I am not optimistic about this race. I think Hegar's only path to victory is essentially Biden pulling the miracle and dragging her across the finish line. Which, yeah...

People paying more attention than I am say her hope is in not only Biden dragging her upwards but all the competitive local races pushing her up as well. Kind of a reverse Beto effect.

Not holding my breath on the statewide stuff but the Texas state house is winnable and I will very gladly settle for just that.

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I get Cornyn's ads on streaming and they are the kind of political ad where you can't tell what it is at first. The two I see start off as like a PSA against rape or child sex abuse before pivoting to being about some bill Cornyn passed.

Haven't seen anything online from his opponent though, which is not reassuring.

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I think you'll find that it was actually Pierce who was a B

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xx521xx posted...

You need disk cloning software for that, such as Macrium Reflect or Acronis True Image.

(Also FWIW, you should be able to reuse your activation key if you do a fresh install to a new drive on the same computer.)

Hey I'm coincidentally in this same situation. Are the freeware/trial versions of these programs worthwhile? Assuming I am (hopefully) only having to do this once.

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red13n posted...

So as far as laws are concerned, doesn't seem to have any impact.

Well, it did have impact on their use of force. That plus activism reduced their use of force significantly. I'm sure the cops didn't want it to happen a second time.

There's a lot of criticisms you can make of it and I already said it was imperfect. The point is that the threat of straight up disbanding the police force (and the union) enables other changes. You have to be willing to fight the union literally to the point of throwing the entire force out.

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red13n posted...

What laws specifically did they pass because of this?

I believe the major changes were that they moved the jurisdiction to a county-wide force but, importantly, this allowed them to change the union contract and leadership.

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red13n posted...

I think you are misunderstanding me. I am completely for this.

So then you agree that you have to completely strip the union of any effective interfering power (for shorthand, let's call this "abolishing the unions") if you want to pass laws that would allow oversight of the police.

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red13n posted...

Abolishing the police would in fact abolish the union, yes.

You're not understanding me.

One of the most prominent models for police reform is Camden, NJ. They were able to implement drastic (but imperfect) reforms but to do so literally had to fire the entire force and rebuild it from the ground up, because the police union was so strong.

By the way, the new officers still have a union! But the original union had to be completely deleted for that to occur.

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red13n posted...

yes?

did you read the next part about having to abolish the police force (by the way, this also will abolish their union)

sorry, DISBAND since this is argument is very pedantic

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red13n posted...

Not sure on the specific instance here, but I can tell you that my union has fought for and against the passing of a whole assortment of laws/candidates.

It doesn't matter on general laws/candidates or whatever.

Did you lobby actively fight against laws (and candidates) that specifically wanted to undercut the power of the union?

I don't want to be presumptuous but that's kind of the point of unions so I'd expect them to. And the theory here is that police unions wield so much power that they are able to stop this just by existing. A lot of the huge reforms we are championing literally required the entire police force to be disbanded first so that they weren't in the way of them.

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

We didn't need to abolish our union for that. They just needed to pass a law.

Going to have to side with red.

Did your union fight the passing of that law?

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KamikazePotato posted...

https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/bidens-campaign-assures-voters-u-055306527.html

Man I don't really believe him but at the very least it's something other than the Pelosi/standard Dem line of "just vote harder guys and don't worry about it."

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red13n posted...

See the thing is, if you think I'm not on your side. You don't have a side. You have a small fringe movement that will never go anywhere.

I will say I don't agree with red's stance on police unions here but he is right about this.

Everyone seems to agree that a similar two-pronged approach is necessary while still, somehow, managing to convince each other they're on completely separate ideological ground and it honestly is not that deep.

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Hey red, how do you feel about things like local labor unions (union unions?) expelling police unions from membership and pressuring national groups like AFL-CIO to do the same?

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I think the question here is if police get any specific legal benefit from being a union versus, say, forming a PAC to do the same lobbying. I'm sure they do (and unions definitely have better PR than PACs), but I don't know what they are.

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xp1337 posted...

Republican one is SCARY IMAGES about how they'll RELEASE VIOLENT CRIMINALS INTO THE STREETS

I wish the Dems were as cool as Republicans made them sound

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Doesn't seem to matter if you're capable of following orders when the police will kill you anyways even if you do.

I don't disagree that cops end up brutalizing neurodivergency but this is a different (and occasionally overlapping) axis. So I think your initial statement is basically nonsense.

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red sox 777 posted...

Earlier, you said Corrik was supposed to be a judge, not an all-powerful absolute monarch.

If you can arbitrarily substitute monarchy for any wielding of power than it's only fair I can too dude

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red sox 777 posted...

If no laws existed, then how could Corrik or anyone else be a good judge in the case? Laws need to be established before whatever event triggers their application.

In this scenario, Corrik is the sovereign and his word is law. You should be familiar with this argument since you constantly invoke it.

Corrik7 posted...

It's a complicated case. You could make arguments both ways.

And luckily God-Emperor Corrik has declared moral relativism so our anarchist jurisdiction may continue!

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Changing the hashtag is not going to meaningfully affect the engagement level of the politics, which is what you're really complaining about here. I mean, look at what happened to Defund the Police. People refuse to understand or engage with it because it's too divisive. There's no magical catch-all slogan that will fix everything. You even note that "Abolish Police Unions" will draw criticism.

Really the important thing here is that it drives the conversation and engagement, and gets people more involved through donations to people doing the work, or getting involved in local politics, or even just educating themselves on the issue. A lot of this stuff has to start at the bottom anyways. To that extent, extracting justice on a case-by-case level can work. I mean, Minneapolis is taking steps to disband their police force over one incident. What we should want is to keep the momentum going.

Oh I will grant you though in this case Breonna Taylor pretty much became a meme, which didn't help anything. But in general, I don't see the issue.

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Corrik acts as if we are all passive observers to the law, which is immutable and can't be affected by any of us.

Corrik, if none of the current laws existed but you were the sole judge in this case, how would you personally solve it?

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Guess what

Even if they were running a drug ring, no one should have died

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Even if you're being generous you can still point to the no-knock warrant as the clear reason why things escalated how they did.

Ah, but I forgot, no-knock warrants are legal and therefore morally good. I suppose there is nothing we can do.

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Reckless endangerment huh? Good thing that surely no one was hurt in this case.

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Reg posted...

Again, yes, the EC is fucked up and this is not a perfect solution.

Just something that is theoretically possible within our current messed up framework.

Sure, my main issue is just that the more of these cute little loopholes you layer on to try to make a functional government without amending the constitution, the more you will be demonstrating the practical need to toss it out entirely and start over. Like, how this will play out in real time is a bunch of politicians admitting they can get close to the popular vote but not really because of the constitution, which we no longer have a working framework to change.

Eventually it's going to force the issue.

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Reg posted...

And yes, fixing the fucked up EC counts is a significant part of the reason I want to see the house properly fixed. The EC itself is also fucked up, but it at least comes significantly closer to one person one vote if the house is properly proportional (It still won't be perfect because of the +2 each state gets for Senators, but it's still a ton easier than getting the NPVIC passed in enough states to essentially nullify it or changing the Constitution to get rid of it entirely)

Well the bigger issue is that the EC votes/electors themselves are winner-take-all by state, not that each state doesn't have enough proportionally. So I'm skeptical it will be a huge improvement, though I'd have to see a practical example.

I was also under the impression you could get a mandate for states to award electors proportionally without amending the constitution, though I could be wrong on that. Not that it's a GOOD solution, just a "practical" one, and it doesn't go far enough.

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I'm all for expanding the House too - it needs to be done. But it's also basically meaningless if anything the House does can still be blocked by the Senate.

Also the EC counts are based on the number of House reps too, right? That'll be weird.

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Also I know everyone is focused on PR and DC because they're high population, but we do have other territories that seem like they should be represented as well. It's just that they have such low population that it would cause issues for our Wyoming-centric method of representation. Are there any good arguments against statehood (if they want it) for these, besides "Wyoming'd"?

Oh I got beaten to it

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It's less likely it leads to a bullshit secession arms race and more likely it just mainstreams the idea of abolishing the Senate if it escalates that far.

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Seanchan posted...

I, for one, look forward to our future where there are 289 "states" in the Union as existing states split into smaller areas to politically add new Senators for whomever is in power at the moment.

We already live in that future. Why else do you think we have 50? We've got two god damn Dakotas.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Cindy McCain officially endorses Biden:

https://twitter.com/cindymccain/status/1308552702134087680
https://twitter.com/cindymccain/status/1308552894388473856
https://twitter.com/cindymccain/status/1308553027280723968

why do we care about John McCain's wife

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The Mana Sword posted...

a real travesty

Cat still being around is good because it makes Collected Company good and that's all that matters tbqh

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I dont play standard but is Omnath really the problem over Uro? That's crazy to me if true.

I play Historic and Uro is extremely strong there, but the format is wacky enough for it to be okay. And also Historic hasn't banned cat so the oven decks are still strong.

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You guys know there's other ways to exert political pressure besides voting, right? In fact there is a current movement that has gotten at least some good results precisely by being very mad at Democrats very loudly.

No one should be interested in a progressive movement that needs a specific leader or enemy or that loses too many elections to be relevant

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

No it doesn't, because that person doesn't exist. Look who people elect. They get what they deserve.

There is no magic bullet because people would rather cry about things than get things done.

The entire point is that the electoral system is so fucked up that you can't just whine and blame the voters for deserving their fate. For all his talk about revolution, Bernie largely tried to play a fair game within the rules of the system and lost within it.

Not to disparage the man because he's a good politician but he's still a politician. If the moderate voltron is an impossible obstacle then you need a different strategy. You either have to hijack the voltron or stop it from forming. That's "getting something done."

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

This country doesn't deserve a great man like Bernie Sanders tbh.

The country deserves a progressive who can actually win the seat of power tbqh

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TheRock1525 posted...

They really haven't. They used to win the Hispanic vote. They used to have completely control over several states that are now purple. The younger generation isn't becoming more religious as they got older like previous generations. Less and less people are identifying as religious in general.

People keep pointing to these demographics but they aren't monoliths. "Hispanics" in particular vary wildly by regional culture and are nowhere near monolith. And youth is more of a function of diversity and the current polarization - young white men are, shockingly, still fairly conservative. They simply make up a lower percentage of younger generations. Hell, even Black voters, though they vote overwhelmingly Democrat, can be very conservative! But the GOP is blatantly anti-Black so you don't get a lot of agreement there. But this all shows the inroads that conservatism can use in the future.

Currently the GOP's plan is also to just...suppress votes, and disenfranchize voters. So that's another angle against it. They will adapt, as they always do, and just waiting around to eventually outvote them maybe in the future is a terrible fucking plan.

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TheRock1525 posted...

I mean, the GOP are fighting a long-term losing battle here. They're struggling in every demo except uneducated rural whites. SC rulings against Roe v. Wade or Obergefell v. Hodges would just made them struggle with even more with women (even white women) and suburban voters. The fact that immigration has fallen completely off the map for them as an issue heading into this election, and that trying to run on it in 2018 got them blasted.

It is reassuring that progressive ideals are moving forward in this country, it just sucks that the GOP are putting up some pretty damn good roadblocks.

Conservatives have been fighting a "losing battle" for decades now, I'm tired of this argument. They always find ways to hold on to power because our government is inherently structured to give the most benefit to conservatism.

Abolish the Senate, expand the House, abolish the electoral college, neuter the courts.

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