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You don't need millions of people for pockets of organized violence to break out. That isn't what the worry is.

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Setting aside gun+Zeus as objectively the most powerful (seriously give it a shot sometime it's nuts) I think I'd go:

Shield > Bow > Sword > Fists > Spear > Gun

As far as my personal favorite/strongest aspects are. Also putting aside that all the Fist and Bow aspects are good while half the shield and sword ones suck ass.

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I don't know about a tier list but I know the speedrun strat is to put Zeus's chain lightning on gun attack and just melt everything.

I liked the spear (specifically Achilles) a lot initially but I haven't come back to it that much recently outside of achievements. It feels to me like it's pretty reliant on getting a good build that lines up well with its moveset, while other weapons like bow, shield, and hidden sword are just naturally powerful.

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I still am not a big fan of Stygian Soul. It feels to me that it's too reliant on getting the +1 cast buffs to output damage quickly. Tracking down the casts is occasionally obnoxious but it just feels to me that I'm doing way more dps even with that.

I can see the argument for the longer duration casts like Festive Fog but Blade Rift has a short enough duration that it feels much more powerful to spam 3 and quickly recover them.

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

Something I would like to ponder.

In the all too hopeful scenario where Biden sweeps hard enough that he's the obvious winner even on Tuesday night, what does that mean for the NEAR future of the Republican party?

We're going to see a split between the Trump mindset voters and those trying to pivot away, but will that be enough to do severe damage to Republican candidates in each offset year?

No, two years is enough time for Republicans to go on an apology tour, wait for the Biden admin or a Dem Congress to do something they don't like, and then pivot back to being the bold opposition party that's the sole bulwark against liberal tyranny.

Maybe a complicating factor is what Trump decides to be yelling about while they do this, but that could also help them distance themselves.

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I don't think Republicans actually believe in trickle-down economics. Maybe the voters do.

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foolm0r0n posted...

Personally I just like "minority rule". Statists preach about how popular vote is the defining characteristic of democracy, but it's not - protection of the minority is. To what extent the EC does that is arguable, especially since it's at the state level which is not granular enough to really protect minority interests, and it demands ignoring all but the most battlegroundy states. But popular vote is not better in those regards. A good hint that you're totally missing the point is if you think senators should also scale based on population.

I don't think this is a key feature of democracy, or what these systems were originally intended to accomplish or even do (for example the Senate was supposed to allow States to express their interests, and to allow more "intellectual" discussion of popular legislature, neither of which it accomplishes well) and the Senate should be abolished, so yeah consider the point missed.

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You really want the Ares legendary for it to go off. Blade Rift requires you to go deep on buffing it.

I posted my build that also had Mirage Shot (Artemis/Poseidon) and trust me it was insane

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xp1337 posted...

Also to expand on that a little wrt to legislation, there's also some reading of the room. There has to be an acknowledgement there is a time to accept a compromise.

Take your shutdown example. It may be one thing to threaten this privately, but if you know in your heart of hearts that the Dems - being the party interested in governing - won't allow that to happen you can't go total war and decide any concessions you're given aren't enough because if you maintain that hardline at some point they will have to abandon you to instead make concessions with Republicans and those compromises will suck.

So again, you take what you can get. You can - and should! - play hardball but you can't drive right off the cliff like the GOP does. It's an unfair asymmetric part of the parties but it's the natural consequence of the Democrats believing in government and governing and the Republicans not. To them driving off the cliff is just fine, if not actually preferable to their writ-large belief against government and its ability to help people. It's not a tactic that can truly be emulated by Democrats.

I think it's more that the act of hardball you're describing is going to be viewed as inherently hostile - and that has to be leaned into. Yes, total war with no concessions is bad, but total war with concessions is what needs to happen. That and the primary thing, the mainstream Democrats aren't exactly happy that they're being primaried out by progressives! You can tell there is a bit of a grudge there. From the outside we can sit here and say this is all well and good electoral politics. But the party isn't going to see it that way, and that's why I say progressives will have to aggressively (and strategically) pick big fights.

You mentioned AOC and I think she knows all this to an extent, and has importantly branded herself as a Democrat. It's just that she also knows progressives effectively have no leverage right now. But you can look into Jayapal's proposed reforms to the Progressive Caucus undergoing now, which is basically making moves to enable the voting bloc to have this kind of power if Dems take control of both houses.

edit: good reader on it
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/house-democrats-liberals-biden/2020/11/01/0d7a527c-1abb-11eb-aeec-b93bcc29a01b_story.html

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xp1337 posted...

The pressure and advocating must never stop, of course, because Biden's natural inclination won't be to do these things in most cases so in that sense he's not an "ally", sure. But that doesn't mean he has to be an enemy either. I suspect you disagree with that part, but the aggressive/hostile style of politics has shown it doesn't win in the Democratic Party and so defaulting to that is just self-satisfaction and not trying to get what you can done.

I'm curious as to what you think pushing Biden left looks like, because from my perspective, aggression is the only thing that does work. Primarying out centrist Dems is inherently hostile. Similarly, when the time comes to pass progressive legislation, the left can only gain leverage by blocking legislation they deem insufficient until their demands are met, forcing the moderates to have to appeal to either progressives or Republicans to pass bills. This is up to and including causing government shutdowns. It won't exactly be nice!

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foolm0r0n posted...

The EC is only a problem to those who think Democrats should be able to ignore small states in presidential elections. It doesn't help 3rd parties at all. From what I can tell, it only hurts them, by eliminating the risk that a 3rd party wins some small neglected state and gets a disproportionate amount of EVs.

Can you explain what the Libertarian argument for the EC is? Why do the rights of "small states" to essentially act as a bureaucratic filter for votes to suit the interests of the state trump the ones of the individual voters? Since votes only have power in the collective this cedes so much individual organizing power to state governments. Or is this something where practicality wins out over principles because you really want a third party to spike a state?

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Jakyl25 posted...

Also foolmos logic is important down ballot as well, possibly even more so

But this isn't how it has played out in practice. Seats end up going uncontested. The Democratic party has even lost a bunch of seats over the past decade to Rs or progressive challengers from within the party, because they just have straight up been ignoring local politics. But third parties have failed to capitalize on this (in hindsight) obvious weakness.

Also Foolmo seems to be approaching this from the truly bizarre perspective that both the Libertarian and Green parties are preferable to both of the major parties, but I'm extremely unlikely to vote for any conservative over even a centrist Dem.

I actually did vote for a Green candidate this election, for railroad commissioner, but it's a weird one because it's hard to get anyone to care about these beurocratic positions AND YET this is something I think the Greens are uniquely positioned to sell themselves on being better than the other parties. But I don't ever hear about it.

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Also "electoral politics are hard and occasionally pointless" ranks so low on the list of oppressive systems that it's almost insulting.

The bottom line is that third parties in America need a radically different approach to their politics.

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foolm0r0n posted...

Do I really have to explain why "systemic oppression doesn't exist, you just need to work harder" is wrong to a bunch of Democrats?

No, but that means the system has to be burnt down if it's that oppressive. Do I really have to explain this to a libertarian?

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And at any rate, the biggest lie of American politics is that your individual vote matters. It doesn't! Votes only matter in large quantities, and so what is actually important is organization. I dont want to hear the "oh, but third parties would be more successful if only people would vote for them!" whining when the onus is still on the party to organize more effectively and make a convincing argument. This is what politicians running in competitive primaries actually understand - they have to organize to win, not just get their name out there.

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metroid composite posted...

Honestly, currently the most effective way to change things with how messed up the US system is seems to be primaries.

Like...AOC is pretty far from a party-line democrat, but she got in by primarying a party-line democrat. Currently the Bernie wing of the democratic party and the classical democrats feel like two different parties TBH.

Similarly some of the candidates for president from the Libertarian party have been former Republican governors; same deal.

Don't forget this is also what the Tea Party achieved to great success within the Republican party

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foolm0r0n posted...

They do that but you don't give a shit because you only care about federal elections.

I'd vote for a local third party candidate if I had any that were meaningfully better than the main two. The independent in my local race sucked. Most of the time there just isn't a candidate. How many state and federal offices do third parties hold again?

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maybe if third parties focused more on winnable local seats so they could have a genuine effect and not waste everyone's time going for President just for scraps of publicity, they wouldn't be complete jokes

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red13n posted...

I am interested in knowing if we go full civil war or just peaceful secession with intermittent violence.

Cynical take but I dont think "peaceful secession" is possible since the USA has a vested interest in maintaining the whole. That's what happened in the Civil War!

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ChichiriMuyo posted...

Speaking of Embercleave, I just went 7-2 in the Arena Open with RDW. Since I paid my entrance fee with gold that leaves me up 2k gems and a shot for more tomorrow.

Wow, congrats! Good luck tomorrow

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red sox 777 posted...

You know what would be the most awesome thing?

The election results are 270-268 for Biden. Republican electors start a campaign to elect Bernie, and announce they will vote en masse for Bernie. Two Democratic electors are socialists and join the movement. But, one Republican elector is a hardcore conservative and secretly sticks with Trump. The final EC votes are:

Bernie Sanders 269
Joe Biden 268
Donald Trump 1

No person having attained a majority, the election goes to the House, where the state delegations vote on party lines to reelect Trump.

How can you just sit here wasting your time on GameFAQs dot com when you have such a natural talent for writing political fanfiction?

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Xeybozn posted...

No, the small state advantages were a compromise to get small states to agree to join the union. Otherwise they probably would have chosen to reject the Constitution rather than be ruled over by the larger states.

Also, fun fact: The founders originally thought that most presidential elections would be decided by Congress. They figured nobody would get a majority in the Electoral College most of the time.

Yeah, but the biggest factor on "large" vs "small" states wasn't necessarily the raw difference in number of people, it was that in some states, a large proportion of people living there were unable to vote. Because, you know,

Paratroopa1 posted...

Slavery

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Just from that list you missed Daveed Diggs (of Hamilton/clipping.) and Janelle Monae and Frank Ocean who are more R&B but do rap.

If you get into unofficial endorsements or support I'm sure there is far more. Like RTJ did a get out the vote virtual concert and Killer Mike campaigned for Bernie so you KNOW they're not breaking for Trump

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Yeah even if TX had accessible mail-in voting (it doesn't, you need an excuse), I would not use it due to all the fuckery around it at state and federal levels. Luckily we have robust early voting, and also had the luxury to plan optimally. So we deliberately went the second week to avoid crowds, and went to the largest possible poll location. Which, by the way, was the city's basketball arena, which was only an option because several NBA teams went on strike after the Jacob Blake/Rittenhouse shootings! Thanks LeBron!!!

It's just so fucking ridiculous it had to come to any of this

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Yeah, that's what I meant, and I don't expect her self-imposed recusal to hold. I think it was a lot of plausible deniability play, especially because these issues had already reached the court by the time she was confirmed and so she was presumably not around to hear them initially.

Basically yes I think it was her setup to avoid alarm bells going off until this timing crunch so close to the election. When something akin to what LOTM is saying can also plausibly happen as a "mistake." Hope I'm wrong!

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A lot of boomers in this topic btw

Just because there is MORE media today doesn't mean nothing will endure. People still consumed crap media in the 1930s we've all forgotten about too.

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Dancedreamer posted...

https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1322602843661021184

If you can't win elections, rig them!

So based on the discussions on similar rulings we had the other day...this should fail if it gets to the Supreme Court. Roberts keeps siding with state jurisdiction over federal, and the thread notes the state Supreme Court already rejected shutting it down. Though not a hard ruling so...that's IF Roberts remains consistent and judges these as similar circumstances, and IF this makes it to the SC in time and IF ACB is not seated by then, and also if my interpretation is correct so. Fuck this, basically.

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pyresword posted...

I don't really buy claims of voter supression in this case since my state has a relatively forgiving vote-by-mail system and early voting has been open for 3 weeks already. Also my experience has been that voting on election day itself is quite easy.

If people are being scared off from voting because the polls are being run in ways that come across as unsafe, that's suppression. It may be unintentional, though at any rate it isn't ideal. The onus shouldn't be on the voters on being more diligent as to how they vote.

Good luck on election day regardless.

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NFUN posted...

My bad, was thinking of just the movie

Would still argue everything else is true

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Unless you are talking about specific pieces of media, superheroes and cartoons like Mickey Mouse and Looney Tunes have this beat. Predate Wizard of Oz, are more culturally relevant, and show no signs of going anywhere anytime soon. I would also argue that American superheroes and cartoons have a larger impact on pop culture outside of the US.

Wizard of Oz is pretty strong though and might be true based on the criteria you seem to have in mind. Alice in Wonderland was something else that came to mind, but that isn't American.

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Ah yes, voter suppression working as intended

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ninkendo posted...

I haven't played as much as PSO2 so it might be different, but PSO didn't have a big world with hundreds of players. You got a lobby with players in it then you go on a mission which is its own area you just have the people in your party and no one else. It was missing the massive part of MMO.

Well, there is barely group content to do in FFXIV's massive world full of players so the experience ends up being similar! You can get through the entire game without ever having to party up with people outside of the missions you go on, which sound like what you're describing. It'll auto match you with 3-7 people depending on what you're doing and put you into a new zone with only them.

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StealThisSheen posted...

They've been banking everything on this document and trying to fake shit to support it, but all they actually had to release were the texts and shit which nobody cares about.

The "document" is the entire basis for the conspiracy theories.

Okay I was confused to the link until this post so thank you, but also I would dispute this.

I've seen plenty of right-wing media figures and randoms talking about the texts themselves.

Glenn Greenwald just left the Intercept over being told to reign in an article about them!

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Mac Arrowny posted...

I think some people have it a little backwards here. Most would agree that you have to pay someone extra/give them better conditions to work a job they hate, so wouldn't the reverse be true as well?

No, the labor has a fair value and people should be paid that value and not have to endure hostile conditions. That's it.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Im a firm believer in getting these people into the light instead of just letting them cultivate their following unchecked.

Like I said, the last episode is 3 hours long, and half of it is Joe straight up reading articles off the internet to counter what Alex is saying.

For fucks sake, remember Milo? His downfall essentially happened BECAUSE he went on Rogan and basically bragged about how good it was to get molested.

Tony, we already did this. A light was shone on him and a bunch of websites went "wow, yeah, not on my platform." Alex Jones is known throughout the internet as a walking meme who is throughly discredited. He's being sued for defamation. Why do we need to keep shining the light?

The answer is because Rogan and Jones both profit from doing this. It really is that simple. I'll even meet you halfway here - sometimes I enjoy a good Alex Jones meme. But that is his brand now! This is all branding. People tune in to see if Jones starts ranting about gay frogs and if Rogan will call him out on the gay frogs and they both get something out of it. Just because you don't personally go out and buy more of their nutrition supplements or whatever the fuck merch they sell doesn't mean that isn't their goal.

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BetrayedTangy posted...

And I was totally in agreeance that the current conditions are insane. I just don't think the arts should be held to the same standard as 'normal' jobs, because that's how you lose out on the art. Especially if overtime stops being an option entirely or you're not allowed to do some work at home. I agree the corporations need more regulation, but too much can be bad.

What do you mean "lose out on the art"? Art is labor and artists need money to pay the bills. The idea that these are two unrelated things, that artists need to work harder or have a "real" job while they struggle to "make it" is bad! It's how the world works, but it's not ideal.

To give a concrete example we can compare indie games to AAA games. They're more personal and "artistic" but still pay the bills - so you see things like Kickstarter or Epic exclusivity or working with larger publishers. Crunch can still happen with indies and it doesn't become better just because it's more artistic or whatever.

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WarThaNemesis2 posted...

Yeah, Capcom was like, the most hated Japanese gaming company in the world a few years back.

Their crime that made them so evil?

Not making more Mega Man games.

Also I know you're joking here but a major factor of the Capcom hate was all the on-disc DLC stuff they did in that awkward period when devs hadn't figured out microtransactions or knew how to convincingly structure and price add-on content

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andylt posted...

The weirdest thing about CDPR to me is how they're treated as scrappy outsiders turning the industry on its head and not the massive government-backed soulless corporation they are. They're no better than Naughty Dog/Rockstar etc on the crunch front, yet gamer ire seems to be reserved for EA/Bethesda/anyone putting clothes on an anime lady.

That's because crunch on Witcher 3 was not highly publicized and CDPR could coast on its consumer friendly image and practices (GOG, no microtransactions, high-effort DLC). Then they made an anti-crunch promise for this game people naively assumed would stay intact. Other than that their controversies have been fairly minor and easily overlooked, so it's no surprise.

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DoomTheGyarados posted...

However in reality people have a platform no matter what these days (right wing people live in their own world online for example) so that isn't really going to matter much. But I can understand the principle.

Not Alex Jones! Outside of his own website, Infowars has basically been blacklisted across the internet. He even got permabanned from Twitter! Joe Rogan is his last remaining mainstream platform, that's why people call it out.

The only times Jones is relevant is when he's on Rogan or if there's a development in the Sandy Hook lawsuit (which he is still dragging out).

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

lol chumps really blew it on giving away Bugsnax. I was buying that day 1 for sure.

I'm sure they got a fat check from Sony in exchange for releasing the PS5's killer app

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Also Rogan is just intentionally trolling Spotify at this point to try and generate controversy, right? Two Alex Jones appearances in a week? There's no way this isn't a stunt

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

Any swing away from tightening this close to the end when it had already begun to tighten a bit is likely not a good sign for the Rs.

Even the most minute gains for Biden at this point is the beginning of the end.

I feel like we really need to have a talk about variance

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Oh, and apparently that Pennsylvania decision was a 4-4 with Roberts joining the 3 liberals, and so with the deadlock it just went to the lower courts ruling for the extension. So, going back to the earlier discussion, Kavanaugh is already in favor of blocking it. But he can't yet, not without Barrett on the court, and not with Roberts siding with state courts. So it's likely the only reason he didn't co-sign that letter from the other 3 conservative judges is just because he's a coward.

And yep...he voted with the liberals on this NC ruling because he already knows what the 4-4 will do and is just trying to win some brownie points. Don't fall for this shit!

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Suprak the Stud posted...

I haven't been following super closely these past couple of days, but what is the difference between the cases in Wisconsin and NC/Pennsylvania? I know Wisconsin was actually the normal three plus Kavanaugh and even Roberts so I'm assuming it was something pretty significant but I don't know what it is and I don't have time to Google this second.

According to CNN it's because in Pennsylvania, the extension request came from a state court. In Wisconsin it's a lower federal court, and in NC it appears to just be the state board. Roberts is erring on the side of preventing federal interference in state voting laws.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/26/politics/wisconsin-mail-in-voting-deadline-supreme-court/index.html

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LordoftheMorons posted...

There was a fascinating article last year about how Kav didn't want to take up the hospital admitting privilege abortion case (the one that was basically exactly the same as another the court struck down a few years prior), though he did end up voting to uphold the law (it failed because Roberts flipped, rightly saying that the court changing its composition is not a justification for overturning very recent precedent).

I think my gut feeling is that he's pretty nervous about shaking the boat too much (I think for reasons of wanting to not further damage his reputation, not actual principle). It's the same reason I'm not convinced he'd outright kill Roe (though I do think he'd chip away at it) and might not go along with the most blatant attempts to steal the election. I certainly wouldn't stake my life on that after the WI opinion, though.

I think that nervousness about his reputation is going to be greatly reduced on a 6-3 court where he's more likely to find 4 others backing him up. In that example he just didn't want to have to go on the record because he anticipated that split. And he still voted in opposition.

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

Maybe he thinks if he plays his cards right he won't be the punching bag anymore now that a radical like Barret is on board.

They can take turns

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It sometimes seems he's making more moderate rulings on purpose but for something like this there are zero stakes. He has no reason to say anything if he doesn't have to, so I wouldn't really make a judgment based on that.

The person writing the thread says that doing another Bush v Gore might be going too far for his tastes but like...Kavanaugh worked on Bush v Gore. For Bush. And he just cited it positively in another ruling. He's probably just being quiet.

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Behold, the rare and highly dubious melee gun build.

Spread Fire was the last hammer buff I needed for the prophecy and when I realized what it did when I took it (which, it gives you a shotgun basically), I thought I had made a huge mistake. It neutered my lightning, basically. But it actually comboed quite nicely with Rocket Bomb later on. Damage output ended up being crazy.

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cool cool cool

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1321152558837174273?s=19

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I also think you are drastically underestimating the value of consistent developers, as much as these companies do.

How many (formerly) prestigious AAA game studios have just collapsed under the weight of bad practices, revolving doors of employees, or just started churning out garbage these past few generations? Off the top of my head: Bioware, Telltale, Blizzard, Ubisoft with Assassin's Creed (a whole lot of shit going down there tbqh), fucking Rare and Bethesda. Literally this year we are starting to see Naughty Dog fray at the seams. Who knows how this will turn out for CDPR but it's never a good sign. This stuff does not happen in a vacuum.

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