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iiicon posted...

half the sales for Witcher 3 were on PC. they'd probably be fine.

obv this way is preferable because more people can play it and CDPR make more money

Eh, the launch year sales were mostly on console. PC only caught up once the game was more heavily discounted there, and discounted sales aren't worth nearly as much as full price sales.
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UshiromiyaEva posted...

It's almost like they delayed it to launch with or soon after new consoles.

Don't know who they were trying to fool with that other date to begin with lol.

My cynical take is its going to run like butt on PS4/Xbone and they don't want those versions out there as the console standard while waiting for next gen to launch.

They already confirmed that the PS5 and XSX versions were coming out in 2021.
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As far as Nintendo characters go, it's kinda crazy that Toad's not in Smash. He's definitely the biggest one not to be playable.
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The Apex of the World (Rain)
Dungeon - Geofront 4
Despair of ELFERIA
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BlackMageJawa posted...

They're subsidised by the sinister megacorps that use their 'Smart' features to harvest your viewing stats and feed you ads.

solution: don't connect your TV to the Internet
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omg Hakuowlo rather than Hakuoro who did this

also I think Uta took me a little over 20 hours to play through back in the day, so 10 hours for the prologue sounds kinda insane...
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Snap was a great rental.
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The first half of Chimera Ant is my favorite part of the show. Love that atmosphere.

Not sure what you mean about the shounen part. HxH is pretty consistently better than other shounen fighting series.
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Debora the only choice
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+3 Don't speak her name!
+3 Blind Justice Torn Souls, Hurt Faiths ~
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I will be more interested in this once there's a way to play on New Game + without playing through Royal first. Really wish they'd just let you import your P5 save.
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Not sure what Atlus is doing at New Game+ since they already announced 13 Sentinels release date. Is it confirmed they're there?
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Celestial Resort (Good Karma Mix)
The Ruined City Kishgal
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To be fair, Catherine Classic on PC was released before Full Body came out. I don't think that'd happen with Royal after it's already been released.
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The biggest thing is if you buy a system for a game, and then it gets ported to another system, meaning you kinda wasted a bunch of money.
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Do people still get porn magazine subscriptions mailed to them?
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+3 Taliyah, the Stoneweaver
+3 Infant Queen Bee
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The all-digital PS5 is tempting (since it'll be a lower price). My main concerns are:

1. I won't be able to play my physical PS4 games on it (don't have many of these, but still)
2. I won't be able to borrow games from friends/the library (haven't done this very often with the PS4, but I have a few times).

I dunno, it's a tough choice.

Paratroopa1 posted...

for all of this, the consumer sees none of the reduction in cost of manufacturing

Isn't that what Coins are? You get a 5% credit for every game you buy. Should probably be 10%, but it's the "couple of bucks" you mention.
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Alph
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xp1337 posted...

I still feel that Kimera II's retirement was, accounting for the time, the most surprising retirement in VGMC. If it retired today I don't think anyone would bat an eye but back then that was way outside the norm.

Don't agree with that at all.
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Aecioo posted...

the fuck is this

I dont need to understand the nuances of a language to know I f its good or not. Hell, you can lie to me and say it's Japanese and have it all be gibberish Klingon. Doesn't mean I can't recognize overracting, missing tone, etc.

The Klingon thing is actually a good example. Listen to Michael Dorn (or most actors) speaking Klingon in Next Generation or Deep Space Nine, and then listen to the way Klingon is spoken in the first season of Discovery, right from the very first episode. Even though it's a language probably no one here speaks, it's still easy to tell that the Discovery acting is terrible while the acting in the other series is really good, and it all comes down to voice direction. They got some fine actors for Discovery, but the way they're directed to speak Klingon is miserable.
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Oh hey another misleading topic good times
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Leonhart4 posted...

What are the examples of really bad Japanese voice acting? People say you can tell the difference but they only ever use that in a positive sense...!

The Soul Eater anime main character is a big one.
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KamikazePotato posted...

Don't really see any evidence of that. The anime fandom is the only one where saying 'you're missing out on nuances if you don't grow up with a language' is controversial.

Like I recently switched off of an anime dub because it sucked. I'm not a purist one way or the other. I just don't put Japan on a pedestal.

I've found on the internet that the biggest sub purists are ESL speakers.
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What I found with XB2 was that most of the UK VAs were good and the American VAs less so. But again, the stilted cutscene direction was the main issue.

And again, why are you saying nowadays? We're talking about persona 4g specifically
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KamikazePotato posted...

Xenoblade 2 set off my 'this is going to be a bunch of bad anime writing' sensors from a million paces away so I avoided it. Glad to see my instincts are still sharp.

I said this was the case already

What are you getting at then? The whole point of people going with the Japanese voices is that the English dub for P4G has some bad performances.
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KamikazePotato posted...

Absolute hard disagree. If this were the case, voice direction wouldn't be so vital.

Voice direction is the main thing that makes it sound good.

KamikazePotato posted...

I haven't seen an example of this in a while honestly. Not since the PS2 Square JRPG days

Xenoblade 2's cutscenes are a recent example.
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Uh, no. I'm talking about when the Japanese version and English versions will pause at the same point timing wise (usually for dramatic impact in Japanese) but the pause in English won't make much sense, because that's not a dramatic point to pause in the English version of the sentence.

And more importantly, any English dub that keeps the dramatic pausing is a bad dub. That's not how English-speakers talk. Scrub that right out if you want me to take you seriously (good dubs do this).
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Have you never noticed painfully awkward lip-flap matching in English dubs? Like, if you play something such as Kingdom Hearts: Re Chain of Memories or 358/2 Days (PS4/PS3 versions) you'll notice characters you just pause at random points in the middle of a sentence to match the way lips are moving, and it's 100% awkward. You don't get that with the Japanese voices, because the lip flaps were designed to go with the Japanese dialogue.
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Roll Me In
Another Winter
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KamikazePotato posted...

Good Dub > Sub > Bad Dub

None of you who didn't grow up in Japan can tell the difference between good and bad Japanese voice-overs, barring extreme exceptions.

watch Soul Eater subbed and tell me this again
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Yeah, I'll often feel like the best English voices are about as good as the best Japanese voices, but the worst English voices are way worse than the worst Japanese voices.

I also feel like dubs of JRPGs often have much worse voice acting than Western games do.
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red13n posted...

They do.

But we've hit the point of them openly admitting it to being a driving force in their creation and basically something they expect to help drive hype/sales.

They did? What's the quote?
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haha, sorry, was just trying to figure out how it's not a good thing
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UshiromiyaEva posted...

Also this was really just zero fanfair, huh? Everything up to today was because of the leak, this was unceremoniously dumped from a marketing perspective.

it was announced as part of the PC Gaming Show, just like the leaks said it would be
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UshiromiyaEva posted...

Wouldn't this be a good thing?

Sounds like you're agreeing with us!

only obese people could finish a P4 meat bowl

though I wouldn't be surprised if you and DeepsPraw are proud of your obesity...
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I think 14.3 Billion Years would've been exactly as weak as Outer Wilds, probably.
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Massive X
Mechalullaby
Invitation Flower ~ Autumn
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Red Shifter posted...

save some time and make a list of games where employees didn't work long hours

but that list wouldn't have any games on it
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I played through Ghost Trick. Super good game. Think I actually liked it more than most Ace Attorney games. The story has incredibly good pacing, and the climaxes in the last few chapters are awesome.
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Haste_2 posted...

I thought the user was crazybusisgood, not crazyisgood. Oh, well, my memory is not good. Are you saying that username didn't come from the fact that Crazy Bus was in VGMC?

no, it came from fucking crazy girls, obviously
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Animal Crossing
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azuarc posted...

I find it interesting you assume that use of gypsies in any media is negative, considering my experience in video games is that they're usually just depicted as traveling people in wagons

That description's part of the problem, considering not all Romani are "traveling people in wagons."
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Lightning Strikes posted...

Yep that is a console launch alright.

Are you implying there won't be a ton of other games?
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azuarc posted...

Depends on if this is only the beginning.

please don't make slippery slope arguments
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azuarc posted...

Hoagie 100%. Unless it's a zep.

Do they not have Subway where you live?
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KamikazePotato posted...

This is the default, not a choice. Literally the first zombie story was about 'humans are the real monsters'. It's inherently baked into the setting.

Having the first zombie story be about that doesn't mean all of them have to be.
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A lot of post-apocalyptic stories suffer when they choose "humans are the real monsters" storylines IMO. Particularly zombie stories.
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The parts where you played as Miles were the worst part of the first game.
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I'm assuming the Sony comment was about two different things, yeah. The original Spider-Man is being enhanced and this new thing is being released too (and maybe there's a combo pack?).
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