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changmas posted...

https://twitter.com/DrRJKavanagh/status/1272454213101137920

weird how this guy could kill 3 people, get completely naked and chase around police, and choke a bystander then and the police didn't see a need to fire a single shot or even draw their weapons! must be a total coincidence!

And they should have. That's a good example of why you take down a violent offender! Now you are getting it!

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Inviso posted...

Plus the real reason deadly force was used that Corrik won't talk about because it doesn't jive with his "everything is a rich vs. poor class issue": Rayshard Brooks was black, and thus the police were more inclined to find him threatening and a risk of future violence that they needed to put down.

Nope. Didn't matter his race. Anyone who did that reasonably could be shot in the situation. Race doesn't matter. If you wrestled with cops, punched one in the face, stole a weapon from them... It doesn't matter anymore what you are. Rich, poor, famous, a nobody, mentally ill, drunk, white, black, Asian, none of that matters anymore.

If anything that scenario should have showed you the great difficulty police have in their job that even the most innocuous, easy going situations can turn violent in a second.

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Is there anywhere that represents these charts in terms of "new cases per 100,000 population" or something along those lines?

Just to pre-emp the argument of "well US has more people than those 3 countries put together".

Nate Silver did a great piece on this. Hold up. That said, if that level is below overloading hospitals then it's perfect. It isn't to get rid of the virus down to zero. It is to keep it from overloading hospitals. One second on the nate silver analysis.

Edit: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/coronavirus-case-counts-are-meaningless/

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HashtagSEP posted...

Though, that said, you're right. People do get car jacked without weapons all the time.

Meaning this guy wasn't any more of a danger to car jack somebody than he would be normally.

But, he was a violent offender who the cops know has a greater propensity to do violence. He isn't a normal person any more at that point. He is a violent offender.

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HashtagSEP posted...

I know we've moved on, I just gotta comment on the idea of somebody carjacking a motorist with a taser.

"Get out of your car and give me your keys! I have a taser!"
"*Rolls up window*"
"Well shit."

Cuz a person is gonna know what the item is. Lol. People get car jacked without weapons at all.

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Anyways, it doesn't matter. I told you all when you all screamed to high heaven that the cop in Pittsburgh would be not found guilty. I will tell you all now. And you can act outraged. Because you simply don't know how the law works. Keep being ignorant and acting appalled.

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

youre right, she shouldnt have been afraid to use her gun in this valid situation. Were not responsible for her irrational fear.

Absolutely you are. Because you are attacking cops who did their job correctly, as seen in Atlanta.

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TotallyNotMI posted...

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3229513917087504&id=799539910084929

I don't know how to link directly to the video, sorry.

Here's a white man resisting arrest, taking the baton from the police, hitting the police with the baton, getting into the police car and driving away.

How many shots do you think were fired at him?

Yeah, they were incompetent cops and even the wife seems to know they could shoot him for what he was doing.

What's the point?

All you are doing by attacking cops for doing their job the right way is causing this.

https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-police-officer-afraid-to-use-gun-beaten-eddie-johnson/1543015/

Cops shouldn't be afraid to do their job correctly because they will have their lives ruined if they do.

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

why stop at 4

what if he uses his taser to hold up a gas tanker and then drives that into the White House? Now the cop is responsible for the assassination of the president!

It doesn't matter if it is just shoving an old lady to the ground or killing 80 people. He is a violent offender that has propensity to cause harm to the public based on that. End of story. It doesn't matter if he injures no one at all. There is a likelihood he could because of being a violent offender fleeing the police.

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Not_an_Owl posted...

In a sane world however, the cops would have just driven him home.

Drunk drivers everywhere would shout in glee at a return to the 70s and 80s with DUIs. Then cops would lose jobs if MADD found out. Sounds like a damned if you do and damned if you don't scenario you have that cop in.

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Jakyl25 posted...

Might as well arrest everyone then. They all might go do that

You have reason to believe it is in the realm of a violent offender. Everything that happened is legally sound and a justifiable, reasonable action.

There isn't a gray area on it. You all are trying to make it something it isn't and dumbing down your cause.

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

"Yeah, the guy ran away, but we have all his shit. Send a tow truck to impound his car and we'll fill out the paperwork to charge him with a DUI and resisting arrest so we can have it served to him, oh and he stole our taser so charge him with that too."

the idea that they "needed" to stop him from running is the problem that needs to be addressed here.

They have to arrest him and take him to get an official breathalyzer or blood test. Lmfao.

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

He's running away with his back turned. They have his name, license and car.

They can let him run for 10 miles still charge him with a DUI afterwards.

And, he goes and holds up a car with his taser, steals it, drives into a family of 4 and kills them all.

You let that happen. As a cop, you don't let someone who is a violent offender flee due to their propensity to do something to the public.

It's so easy to pick the happy ending in your hypothetical to justify what you wanted the end result to be.

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Probably because they can't account for that many people in contact tracing.

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changmas posted...

if police weren't looking to escalate things they could have allowed him to walk home, driven him home, or allowed him to wait until his BAC wasn't over the legal limit

"If the police didn't want to escalate things they should have let a drunk driver off of his DUI".

That's a take there.

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Wanglicious posted...

that's some serious bullshit of government just looking for a paycheck. if you aren't driving under the influence and are not at any risk to drive then wtf. like do you need to have a breath test to operate your machine in there to get away with that? just a dumb policy.

The law just requires you to be in a car you can possess. So unless they literally can't find the keys or the car literally can't start (something that wouldn't have happened since like a battery dying). They still have you. You don't even have to be over BAC to be given a DUI (a lot of people don't realize that).

https://www.callnow.law/blog/2019/05/can-you-get-a-dui-if-your-bac-is-below-the-legal-limit/

DUI laws are tough cookies. And, there is a lot of wiggle room to charge you regardless. That's why I laugh at the best laid plans and such. I had a plan once. It went awry. Any plan can.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Ok so if you make the wrong choice under a mind altering drug that puts others at risk, do you deserve to die yes or no?

I think you are conflating deserve to die with your death being a reasonable outcome to a situation.

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Wanglicious posted...

you'd totally get charged with one, yeah. could probably get out of it with proper recordings of what's going on but if you lack that, expect it. that just says more of our fucked up system than not. if you're in the car and NOT operating it, you shouldn't be getting anything, that way drivers won't have to choose between a higher chance of being caught vs. a greater chance of a car accident. so that's one reform to be agreed on.

and the fact that he's not doing it now and identifies the problems of it does say he learned. he just didn't learn immediately, didn't learn at the time. which... is honestly common for this sort of thing, DUI or no. like say he had gotten away with it without ever getting a DUI - that doesn't make anything better. the DUI is immaterial to the argument of drunk driving.

You actually probably won't get out of it.

I know a dude who got a DUI sleeping in his turned off car with his keys in the back seat in his own driveway. Lol. And it stuck. He spent a lot of money fighting that to lose.

It's debatable if the sticking your keys in your gas cap helps your case. Our one instructor who did classes said he has seen tens of thousands of people over the years for DUIs. Says he has seen it all. People getting DUIs for sleeping in vehicle with keys thrown outside the vehicle. Sleeping in back seat with keys in has cap. People already out of their vehicle and walking into their house.

Idk if I believed all his stuff he said, but I do know getting caught sleeping in a vehicle while drunk is gonna net you a DUI almost all the time unless you got lucky with a cop.

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

You pointed out that they *could* book you for a DUI for sleeping in your back seat based upon the broad terminology of being "in control" of a vehicle.

They would not necessarily do so in practice, but yes, that is true.

But then it's STILL your fault for not making arrangements beforehand. And you should STILL prefer to get a DUI for sleeping in a car than ACTUALLY DRIVING A CAR WHILE DRUNK. Because one of those is a shitty way to get a DUI and the other is one of the worst things you could do full stop.

Bullshit they won't do it lol. You don't know many people with DUIs do you.

Arrangements can fall through, bud. Especially when you add in a mind altering drug to the mix.

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Arcanine2009 posted...

You guys are complaining about the moderation system here? It's lax as hell compared to 10, hell 5 years ago. At least you can contest your moderations here and not get banned for stupid shit.

You can literally get a 1 month ban and can't defend yourself on resetera for not having the same opinion as the far left on a political issue.

Lmfao. Just because it is better than resetera doesn't make it good. It's not that it is lax. It is that if you are moderated, you can't possibly win an appeal with the new system. And, some moderators moderate you at times simply out of bias.

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Orlando_Jordan posted...

He's going to discuss the moderation system. Thousands of users will see it.

It's broken. What is there to discuss.

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

My point is that if literally all else failed I would sooner sleep in the car than drive it.

But my point was ALSO that I would never get into that position in the first place.

You were only in that situation because you did not plan ahead. In short, you fucked up and did not take sufficient precautions.

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But then you obviously learned your lesson and that was the ONLY time in your life that you found yourself in such a situation. Right?
Oh..

It's so funny listening to your holier than thou attitude when compared to the first thing they tell you in rehab. "There is no such thing as a foolproof plan when you drink."

Lol. I am humored. Don't mind me.

That said, and I pointed out you would be exactly in the same place as someone who chose to drive. A DUI if found. You were the one who started babbling on about jury trials and shit.

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tabiicat42 posted...

for anyone wondering - he's mass deleted his social media. we're working really hard on discord trying to locate him and get someone near him to check on him. if you have any info please drop into the discord main chat and let us know.

I used to have his cell number but don't anymore. Sorry.

Love ya, gravy. Keep yourself safe, bud.

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-idUSKBN23L0JB

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Dark Young Link posted...

Everything hurts the poor more than it does the rich. Because the rich can bribe the right people to get out of punishment. It's why when a celebrity gets caught doing hard drugs they spend at most a day in jail and mostly get off if they promise to go to rehab. Where as I would spend at least a decade if I was caught smoking weed.

Or, again, in the case of rape.

Some piece of shit rapes an unconscious woman, gets arrested, but also gets freed that same day because he(Or his parents) has bail money.

He was found guilty, the procecutors recommended a sentence of 6 months.

He got 6 months, and only served half because of "good behavior".

Do you think for one minute that someone who didn't have money/parents with money would be treated so softly?

1. The rich have more money for better defense. I tried to show Forceful that with his hypothetical about sleeping in the car DUI situation, but he didn't seem too interested. Thus, rich tend to get off more and to negotiate better circumstances.

However,

2. I don't get why you think that mandatory rulings should also benefit the rich more also. Like, if you have a device that works specifically to stop drinking and driving and allows the poor to continue to work and get around to maintain their life for them and their family, why would you not want to use that instead? Why continue the economic disparity gap you already alluded to in 1 and double down with it on 2 also?

Edit: Also, I think conditioning people to drive their cars and not drink / forcing them into the situation so they learn better ideas is a bit better than hey just don't drive for a set time. Drink the whole time. Then let's just give you your license back and see what happens, yeehaw!

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So if you got rid of qualified immunity... You couldn't sue the state or department but the officer himself instead???

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Mr Lasastryke posted...

people then went "why do you say your DUI punishment was too harsh?

And this never happened is the problem. I never said it was too harsh lol. I said a clerical error happened that made it misgraded higher. I showed you the sentencing chart just last topic.

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Wanglicious posted...

...sniping drivers. (...seriously dude, you're the right winger in a part of PA that likes guns, don't make everyone else look like they've got a better knowledge of firearms than you on this.)

I'm not really pro-gun, Wang.

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StealThisSheen posted...

Because there is literally no area in the world where you HAVE to do this.

Where the hell did this "I MUST go to the bar, I have no choice!" stuff from you and people like SephG come from

I don't have to go to the bar. I don't go to the bar. I have basically very little friends now because of it, but that's fine for me.

When I was young and felt bulletproof, I didn't think things pertained to me. I felt like I could drink and drive better than a Nascar pro if he challenged me. My friends were at the bar. If you wanted to have friends, if you wanted to meet girls, you went to the bar. It was as simple as that. You aren't meeting people otherwise besides maybe a Myspace hook up here and there. *Shrug*. My family all drink and drove basically every day. It was pretty ingrained not to be a big deal and as long as you drove fine it wasn't a big deal. Every single person at the bar every night was drinking and driving down to literally almost every last person there. Hell even the bartenders many nights.

I was young. I felt invincible, and I wasn't. And it was dangerous. I could have lost my life or caused others to lose theirs easily back then. I was very careless before my first DUI. Very. And I totally plan to try and stop my kid and my fiancees kid from following in those footsteps by having them understand the consequences first. The video of the 3 girls from canonsburg or whatever who basically snap chatted their voyage drinking all night and all died at age 21 hit hard also like 5 years back.

So, I adjusted. Tried the hey live the same life but adjust it thing. Realized on the second DUI that plans can go awry.

On the third DUI, much later and much more recent I was leaving a wedding. I barely drink anymore at that point. Almost never at bars without rides. I felt I was fine. Everyone thought I was fine. The bartender counted my drinks to not allow me to drink over 1 per hour. Apparently I wasn't fine. Now I just don't drink at all outside of home unless staying at someone's house after or my fiancee is going to pick me up and has my car.

*Shrug*

I don't think feeling you have to go to the bar to be apart of the social scene when you are young is especially an unknown concept.

I mean, I wouldn't have met my fiancee or had my child if I hadn't lived that life either. And, I also didn't grow up in the household or area maybe you necessarily did either.

I have had a lot of growing up from what I felt was normal life to my life now, bud.

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StealThisSheen posted...

I'll never understand the "There's no Uber/Lyft/etc., in my town, and the bar isn't within walking distance, so I HAVE to drive drunk!"

If that's literally the case, then maybe don't go to the fucking bar to drink?

You don't understand it because you don't live in an area where you have to! If you listened to people with experiences from that area, you could understand it! Shouting out people as pieces of shit isn't gonna help you understand it!

That said, yes it is a crime.

It is sort of like how I don't understand how people who don't want to overdose can't simply not do heroin or people who don't want to go to jail for having weed a third time, can't just stop smoking weed!

Oh wait. I did listen to people over the years who it does affect more/ have experience with it and developed my thoughts based on other views instead of calling them all pieces of shit any time they discussed it.


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Says the guy who just talked to me all topic. I mean, you are the one choosing to not have a rational discussion and are resorting to insults and such.

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red13n posted...

Bars being responsible doesn't absolve you of your own personal responsibility.

I don't think bars should even be responsible tbqh. I was quoting someone from resetera. Bars really should only be responsible if serving visibly intoxicated or pouring more than they are supposed to, but what bar is doing that. That would cost them money.

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Kinglicious posted...

Doing shitty things =/= being a piece of shit. There's a difference between the two.

Also if we're tossing out driving offenses, texters are worse.

The problem I always had with singling out texters is that really it is any distracted drivers cause wrecks. Which encompasses such a huge swath of things.

I mean, some states now cite you if you look at your GPS on your phone when driving. It's hard to draw the exact line in my opinion on it.

Distracted drivers period are an issue though.

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Dark Young Link posted...

"I can't be a piece of shit if a bunch of other people are also pieces of shit!"

Just shut the fuck up already. There is zero justification for driving drunk, and even trying to downplay it makes your mentality even shittier.

There's no argument. Just shit tier status.

Oh I already know I am not a piece of shit no matter how much you cry it from a mountain. You don't affect me in the slightest. I am sure far greater people than you and everyone in this topic have drank and drive, bud. I have zero doubt people in this very topic drink and drive and are also playing the moral game. I actually would be surprised if there isn't people in this very topic that have in the past 2 days.

It doesn't matter. What does matter is that your arguments are flawed. You don't actually care about what you are saying. You are just trying to use it as a wedge issue to act like you are morally superior like it makes your arguments correct.

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"It sucks where I live because there's no bus, taxis, uber, lyft, and very few live within walking distance. If you're going to a bar, you're taking a car, and anyone who has been to a bar knows bars don't give a shit what happens once you are off their property and how easy it is to get absolutely overserved. Almost everyone who goes to the bar here drives home drunk. Hold bars more responsible for this shit and watch how quick they start keeping an eye out."

This is something that maybe reading will help you forceful understand the WHY. It doesn't make it right. It is still wrong. But, the why. Do states actually want to end drunk driving? Idk, I guess. Many of you who debate it don't understand the why... Or even care about the why. It is as Kamikaze put it and he wants another pat on the back for it so he reposted it cuz he thinks it's his one second of fame with the echo chamber. Condemn condemn condemn! Don't care why!

You don't want it to happen, but you also don't want to figure out why it happens to stop it either! .

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red13n posted...

I'm going to say if I went around asking people if they thought a lot of people out there were pieces of shit, a majority would say yes.

I bet everyone would have a different definition of what it is too!

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StealThisSheen posted...

Yep. Glad you agree.

Now, said people can over time stop being pieces of shit if they prove they've learned their lesson and don't do it anymore. But as soon as it happens again, they're a piece of shit again.

Pretty simple.

And the tune changes.

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red13n posted...

Yes, there are a lot of pieces of shit out there.

I don't think even the most liberal extremists would go down your path of calling other liberals pieces of shit objectively no matter what they have done in life for a mistake they made.

Then again. This is the crowd who had someone in it say Hillary Clinton was a racist for life and voted for her also because if you say something perceived as racist you are always a racist piece of shit or whatever.

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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

It blows my mind that you can recognize what happened and even say sure, he didnt mean to bump the cop in the same sentence where youre saying its ok.

I don't know what you mean. He didn't commit a crime when he bumped into the cop. They arrested him in err. He did resist arrest though.

The rest you said is bogus made up nonsense.

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StealThisSheen posted...

I mean anybody that chooses to drive drunk is objectively a piece of shit.

It's not really an insult or anything. It's just a fact.

I bet! I have no doubt you believe that.

That was amount of people you believe are pieces of shit is frightening. Remember, we catch very few of them because it is so prevalent.

But add to the pieces of shit list...

Craig Robinson
Kevin Hart
Chris Pine
Abby Wambach
Keanu Reeves
Vince Vaughn
Flo Rida
Tiger Woods
John Stamos
Michael Phelps
Beto O'Rourke
Victoria Neave

For just some famous people.

According to MADD, 27,333 DUI "convictions were made last year in the state of Virginia. Thats roughly 1 in every 220 adults. Across the entire United States, more than one million people are arrested every year for driving under the influence."

Brain surgeons, NASA scientists, lawyers.

Tons of unequivocal pieces of shit out there! It's just an objective reality! Lol.


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Pretty bad when the website of the extreme can have this rational debate without calling people pieces of shit and nonsense while the people here can't handle themselves. Lol.

To be fair, this debate is only happening there because they can't decide between the bigger evil DUIs and arresting a minority.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/we-are-not-solving-drunk-driving-effectively-with-mass-incarceration.227419/

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Jakyl25 posted...

The fact that hes even talking about the possibility of losing paints an interesting picture about how he sees his chances internally

I think he knows the pandemic did him in.

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For what?

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Anyone heard from timjab lately?

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Trump said today if he loses he would go onto other things. Big shot in the gut for the people arguing he would try to seize government if he lost.

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/14/us/videos-rayshard-brooks-shooting-atlanta-police.html

NYT break down. The George Floyd one was very good also.


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UshiromiyaEva posted...

All cops are corrupt.

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1271832001364979716?s=19

I don't get how you can view things and not see what actually happens. He walks behind the police officer without the police officer even knowing he did as the police officer stopped. Sure, he didn't mean to bump the police officer when antagonizing them. That's true. It was accidental. However, he was resisting as the guy says he wasn't resisting.

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Watching the body cam it is sad as a person to hear about someone talking about just trying to enjoy his wife's birthday and his daughters and being dead within a few minutes later. Truly sad to hear.

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So the body cam videos show that this man only blew a .108. Unless he had drugs in his system, there is a chance he might have gotten off this DUI altogether. If he could take up to an hour to get an official reading, he might have been in the clear officially or close enough that it was arguably under due to in margin of error.

That's interesting.

I am surprised they let him move his own vehicle though also.

He definitely wasn't nearly as intoxicated as I was assuming he would be.

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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Again i would never drink without a plan. Because I'm not a piece of garbage who is willing to risk other people's lives.

But if i did drink without a plan I would have money for a cab.

Or if I had no money I would use my phone to order a ride.

And if I couldn't do that I would embarrass myself by calling everybody I know until someone came for me.

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And then yes if drunk FD had no plan, no money and no phone (somehow) he would rather get in trouble for sleeping drunk in the car rather than drive the car a single foot.

That's great. You are unfortunately in rural America on a trip. You didn't realize Ubers and lyfts and cabs don't run out there cuz you falsely assume they existed everywhere. No one will give you a ride even though you did ask. You are tasked with walk back to your rental 5 miles drunk, sleep in your car, or drive home.

You choose sleep in your car. You got picked up for a DUI. Now refer to the scenario I pointed out and tell me if you are going to a jury trial. Reminder, you have to return to the area you were arrested for your trial.

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