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Topic | Who was each year's contest MVP? |
ctesjbuvf 05/14/20 2:27:43 PM #245 | Cloud winning against Mario and Zelda, then actually cracking 40% on Link was fantastic imo. What a turn of events. When Mario finally got the chance to run into someone other than Link, who he had been fed to so many times, I couldn't even root for him. Cloud getting the revenge after 16 years after Mario renewed his contest villain status was just perfect. Also, Tifa winning against MMX was not BS. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Best GotD 4 Seed Day 1 |
ctesjbuvf 05/14/20 12:55:52 PM #3 | Damn this is a good field --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | ~~ Ctes' Post-Contest Analysis (PCA) ~~ |
ctesjbuvf 05/14/20 12:25:31 PM #25 | Round 1 Division 1 Day 2 Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice 58.57% Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch 41.43% Prediction Percentage 78.35% Sekiro won the match with relative ease as it was supposed to, but for anyone that picked Sekiro to round 3, this was not what you had hoped for. Ni no Kuni is beyond irrelevant at this point and is probably only remember for being animated by Studio Ghibli. While it is a very pretty game indeed, its rather forgettable and I would not have been surprised to see it not make the field at all. Lets stay at the pretty animations part for a bit though. While I switched to Monster Hunter > Sekiro after this day of matches, I did not think this was as bad as people thought. Because if you have not played either of the two, Ni no Kuni stands out quite a bit. I can see people thinking Well, it looks nice and I like Studio Ghibli here. I couldve done that in some matters myself if I didnt care for either game. Thats despite having actually attempted to play Ni no Kuni. I just got bored of it and never got around to finishing it. Now, although round 2 certainly did not do that line many favors, Im about ready to pick it up again on the other side of the contest. Because while Sekiro didnt get close to winning next round, this whole fourpack ends up looking good, all in the better half of the bracket. Its hard a bit hard to imagine, but I think it makes the above point good after all. You could argue that it just has the right genre for us to care about it, but there are certain games today and yesterday proving it is not necessarily so. I have a hard time imagining Ni no Kuni put up much of a number on anything, but it seems like the kind of game thats also hard to blowout entirely. I would not pick it above FFXV or Hollow Knight as the stats suggest, but I still think the stats tell us something. The game is forgettable to many, but rarely ever disliked, and we all remember what it is when seeing it in a poll. Sekiro is also a recent game and here on the other side of the contest, being a year old has not looked to do anything any favors anymore, were slow on this site. So its a good game for Ni no Kuni to perform well on while going out. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Paper Mario: The Origami King announced |
ctesjbuvf 05/14/20 11:09:45 AM #28 | I'm hyped! Color Splash was a decent game and does not deserve to be compared to Sticker Star. Although it's far from the perfect game that is TTYD. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1362 |
ctesjbuvf 05/14/20 8:31:13 AM #251 | I've seen people here wanting a new series contest. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | How many Legend of Zelda games have you played? |
ctesjbuvf 05/14/20 8:16:55 AM #5 | Beaten all the main ones except Skyward Sword, which I got about halfway through. That's counting the Four Swords games and Tri-Force Heroes. Also beat Hyrule Warriors on Wii U. And I've beaten the remakes of OoT, MM and WW. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1362 |
ctesjbuvf 05/14/20 8:13:43 AM #246 | The weirdest part of the poll it Got Villains II somehow being in second. Maybe it's old enough for people to have forgotten how dull it was. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Eurogamer - XenoblaDE feels like the Xenoblade formula perfected |
ctesjbuvf 05/14/20 8:03:16 AM #3 | I'm really feeling it. Excited to see a good part of the board playing it for the first time. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1362 |
ctesjbuvf 05/14/20 5:33:57 AM #235 | Yo KP, another question. You adjusted God of War, did you also adjust ME3 and/or ACO? --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | How did Skyward Sword not even make the bracket? |
ctesjbuvf 05/14/20 5:24:59 AM #8 | red13n posted... Likely a case of the fanbase not being able to agree on which generation to nominate. It's still weird imo. Not none of the other really get more nominations than Baba is You etc? I'm honestly thinking Allen just thought on was plenty for Pokemon. I don't mind either, though I do think Pokemon GO should've been there. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | How did Skyward Sword not even make the bracket? |
ctesjbuvf 05/14/20 5:23:31 AM #6 | ALBW getting in instead of SS is great though. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | ~~ Ctes' Post-Contest Analysis (PCA) ~~ |
ctesjbuvf 05/14/20 5:21:42 AM #21 | Round 1 Division 1 Day 2 Monster Hunter: World 57.95% Bravely Default: Flying Fairy 42.05% Prediction Percentage 88.85% This match went almost exactly like most of us expected, but unlike most matches that go that way, most appeared to not have a correct read on either games strength, just a correct read on the ratio between them. Because even as the games both ended up in the matches where most people expected them to, they look a lot better than we thought at the other side of the contest. Bravely Default appears to be quite legit and its a shame it got a completely unwinnable match because it couldve damaged brackets elsewhere in a similar fashion to Octopath. Being a Square RPG on a Nintendo console is a good thing apparently. As Monster Hunter also ended up being a lot closer to Dragon Quest than expected, we instead of learned of Bravely Default being legit as the contest went on. Hopefully its not the last time we see it in the field, although with its low seeding in a Game of the Decade bracket it might very well be. This match set up Monster Hunter as the clear favorite for round 2. It was the guru favorite too, but Sekiro beating it was a fairly popular upset, but everyone had a hard time seeing Ni no Kuni get close to Bravely Default. That had more to do with the following match however. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1362 |
ctesjbuvf 05/14/20 4:53:13 AM #233 | I think Luster estimated the Persona 5 rallies to be 300-600 votes ftr. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1362 |
ctesjbuvf 05/14/20 4:52:25 AM #232 | I'm not surprised it's doing well. We'd get to have all the matches we really wanted to see in 2015, but Melee and Undertale prevented. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1362 |
ctesjbuvf 05/14/20 4:50:52 AM #229 | No, it says Game of the Decade: 1990s. Not 2020s. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Which is better - Majora's Mask or Breath of the Wild? |
ctesjbuvf 05/14/20 4:49:51 AM #25 | Majora's Mask is the one Zelda game I would never consider voting BotW against. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Predict the winning score in the Second Chance Contest |
ctesjbuvf 05/14/20 4:48:24 AM #20 | GoldSlime35 posted... 14 brackets averaged 47 Proud to be the best bracket that did not do that. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1362 |
ctesjbuvf 05/14/20 4:17:07 AM #226 | KamikazePotato posted... Xenoblade probably had a bandwagon in its final match because it's looking like it barely got SFFd by Ultimate. Ha, I tried convincing a bunch of people that for the full day. I think it's as good as it gets. Setting up BotW > Smash > Odyssey was always gonna make this hard. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1362 |
ctesjbuvf 05/14/20 4:02:44 AM #223 | KamikazePotato posted... Unadjusted God of War throws a wrench into a few too many things. Galaxy 2 ended up being entirely unhelpful because it's way above it's 2015 value by every metric so I had to use other stuff. I see. Did you adjust division 4 in any way or just leave it as it is? --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1362 |
ctesjbuvf 05/14/20 3:59:57 AM #222 | KamikazePotato posted... https://pastebin.com/CNN815Y1 It looks good. Some uncertainties like GoW, but there always is. Safer_777 posted... Woke up, checked the results. Okay this I didn't expected. Yeah I know that nobody cares for MM now but damn. It's called SFF, mate. MM will still do good. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1362 |
ctesjbuvf 05/14/20 3:56:14 AM #219 | Oh hey, 15th on the second chance leaderboard! And 33rd on regular with my alternate bracket. It only flipped Skyrim/Witcher and it's the only alternate I made (except for a favorites bracket, which obviously wasn't a real shot). --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1362 |
ctesjbuvf 05/14/20 3:50:05 AM #216 | I think God of War looks pretty good where it is. At least not much of an adjustment is needed. Galaxy 2 is probably the best way to determine Witcher 3. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Every GotD2 game, in order of shortest to longest speedrun world record |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 6:54:21 PM #3 | Quality topic --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1361 |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 6:23:51 PM #466 | I think it'd guess Destiny had less votes against it here... maybe. Would be weird to pick either of them to win anything. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1362 |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 6:21:58 PM #2 | I had hoped we would get to Cloud vs Link during the contest. Seems like we're falling just short. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | How many games from the final 8 of the "Contest Poll" have you played? |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 6:14:09 PM #16 | BotW ME2 Ultimate Xenoblade Some Skyrim --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1361 |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 6:13:35 PM #462 | Which is perfectly fair. And you can always compare to the raw results and see if somehing got adjusted and then decide for yourself if you want to. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | ~~ Ctes' Post-Contest Analysis (PCA) ~~ |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 6:12:20 PM #18 | That's it for tonight since it's getting late here. Wanted to begin this before people potentially disappeared again (although we do have bonus day tomorrow), but not too far from the end either. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | ~~ Ctes' Post-Contest Analysis (PCA) ~~ |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 6:10:38 PM #17 | Round 1 Division 1 Day 1 Hollow Knight 62.81% Tales of Berseria 37.19% Prediction Percentage 75.63% The final match of the first day gave us a major blow to board 8 from casuals. This match was hotly debated on board 8 and when something doesnt even break 40%, thats on us. Hollow Knight was the guru favorite, so we werent completely off, but it was very evenly split. It also serves as our first indicator of indie games being legit, but that didnt really take off until the next day. While the gurus favored Hollow Knight, the oracles did not and those are the bigger contest nerds. With 61.82%, Black Turtle had by far the best oracle prediction and it lower than the actual result. He sure made us here for it too! Then look at the prediction percentage. This was an embarrassing start for us even if we made up for later on. It was almost over right away, but there were a few minutes of hope for Berseria. It certainly had the board vote to the surprise of no one. A minute into the match, Berseria was doubling Hollow Knight, then suddenly Hollow Knight rose to heaven and was almost doubling Berseria at the freeze. The match had everyones attention, but the next update sealed the deal completely. Hollow Knight extended its lead above 200 votes and never looked back. What happened then? Basically everything we could look at indicated the match being even, and in even matches picking the RPG is usually a good call. Hollow Knight lost big time in its two GotY polls. Tales of Berseria had no such polls to make predictions based on, which probably didnt speak well for it, but means to was untested. Kingdom Hearts III was snubbed from GotY too and that game had decent enough strength to win here. Velvet was in our latest contest and won a match with relative ease before getting almost 30% on Yoshi. Such strength could be enough today. For a long time, Hollow Knight was believed to just be really good. A contender for best indie game, which quickly looked to be a decent title. Also, a crucial thing a lot of people didnt take into account when making this prediction was Hollow Knights Switch exposure coming later than its original release. I had Berseria today and expected it to be close thinking Hollow Knight was of the same strength as in its first GotY poll. Had I realized it wasnt initially on the Switch, I would have picked it. I would not have felt safe, but I would have picked it. Last contest proved being on Switch is a really good thing. It seems clear now that the result had a lot more to do with Tales of Berseria simply being absurdly weak. Not that anyone thought it wasnt weak after today, but its even worse than anticipated. It looks straight up awful. The Tales series is extremely niche these days, being mostly only cared about in very specific RPG happy circles like board 8. Symphonia looks like it will always be the strongest of these despite being limited to the Gamecube outside of Japan for a long time, and the previous games contest showed us it isnt even the strongest RPG on the Gamecube as it lost to Paper Mario II. Not that there is any shame in that since Paper Mario II is perfect. A decade after Vesperia did slightly worse than anticipated, were taught to have no faith in this franchise in contests and we got a good early reminder that characters =/= games. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1361 |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 6:10:01 PM #460 | It's tough because games typically only rallies in matches they're losing. There's just no other simple solution than not do anything about it. Though adjusting for SFF, bandwagons and what not is also always with uncertainties. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | ~~ Ctes' Post-Contest Analysis (PCA) ~~ |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 6:07:57 PM #16 | PostContestUlti posted... You don't need to put the score on the wiki. That eventually gets done with pictures and such. Thanks for the heads up. I like having them here because I often reference them. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | ~~ Ctes' Post-Contest Analysis (PCA) ~~ |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 5:59:48 PM #14 | Round 1 Division 1 Day 1 Final Fantasy XV 74.65% What Remains of Edith Finch 25.35% Prediction Percentage 88.19% What Remains of Edith Finch looked like a candidate of being the absolute weakest entry in the bracket on paper. Final Fantasy XV is a previous GotY winner and it fell short of a tripling today. That should have been our first warning flag of FFXV struggling to get to round 3. It was mostly credited to Final Fantasys inability to score big blowouts, however. FFVII has looked off in so many contests and still managed to get where it should unless its 2013 where to be fair, almost nothing did. At high percentages, it obviously doesnt take a lot of anti-votes to not score big and Final Fantasy is good at getting such. XV is probably better at it than most of them. It was initially fairly well liked here, as shown by winning GotY, but it still represents a lot of the issues with modern Square and it would not have won GotY most years. Its development was quite a rollercoaster both before release and during DLC phase. The canceled stuff probably doesnt help it much either. Also, despite it being more stupid every single contest, Im positive Final Fantasy always wins still gives it some anti-votes despite it not being true since Sephiroth won the villains contest 15 years ago. Final Fantasy XV might have benefit slightly from brand name here however, which should have made next round scary as well, but it took a while before some people anticipated a possible Hollow Knight upset since its hard to make much of big blowouts and since the indie craze hadnt really shown itself yet. At this point, we were not paying much attention as other matches stole the spotlight. As for Edith Finch? Well, when youre never gonna win a match and is just happy to be here, getting Final Fantasy XV is probably among the best you could hope for. Breaking 25% in its only match means it can happily leave the contest! --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | ~~ Ctes' Post-Contest Analysis (PCA) ~~ |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 5:57:53 PM #13 | That's understandable, particularly for a 1 point match, and it was reasonable close. I've done that a few times too. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Game of the Decade: 2010-2019 Contest Analysis Crew - Part 6 |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 5:49:29 PM #346 | Well, it's just a shame so much of it was rematches --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | ~~ Ctes' Post-Contest Analysis (PCA) ~~ |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 5:38:10 PM #11 | That's probably true. Microsoft will keep it as relevant as it is now. With any luck they'll make a good one again. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | ~*Ultimaterializer's Post-Contest Analysis!*~ |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 5:31:16 PM #51 | Then we can count Metal Gear Solid too I suppose --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | ~~ Ctes' Post-Contest Analysis (PCA) ~~ |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 5:22:27 PM #9 | Round 1 Division 1 Day 1 Halo: Reach 56.15% Life is Strange 43.85% Prediction Percentage 65.82% Our first debatable match of the contest, but not the most debated match going on even though its the closest. This was really a match of which game sucks less. Halo has not been relevant here for a long time. The first game was decently strong a decade ago, but not very good give years ago. Halo 3 also clearly looked weaker and 2 was only in the GotD contest. Halo: Reach is a 2010 game, meaning it couldve been in five years so it would be expected to be a good amount weaker. You could also make a case for Halo to have continued its decline, Master Chief certainly didnt look worth much in 2018. Not that he often does, but it might be a new low. Then theres Life is Strange, which has a very loud and dedicated fanbase, but we also saw five years ago that its very weak where it destroyed by Fallout 3. Dont let its final percentage against Fallout 3 fool you by the way, Undertale had its first match at the same time. Fallout 3 had more than 80% until the huge Undertale rally happened affecting this match because Life is Strange is exactly tumblrs kind of game. I think perhaps this was commonly forgetting from people making a case for Life is Strange today, though I believe more releases way used as an argument for why it could be stronger. Weve also seen a Life is Strange character in action now, namely Chloe Price, who made the 2018 field and was killed by Lightning in a debated match. Thats a major red flag there, because while its fair to assume the game is stronger than its secondary character, Lightning showed to be very weak as well and its not a coincidence the other two major Final Fantasy games got into the contest above XIII. Thats what this match came down to. Of these two games of little two no strength, which is worth the least. It ended up being Halo in a somewhat close match, but never one that was in doubt. Halo went out in front with its assumed bracket votes and never looked back. The match was over right away. There were small talks of rallies, but I dont think they were many this time after nothing happened in Chloes match last contest. The fear is a mix of a fear of rallies in general and LiS boosting so much from the Undertale rally meaning if you could gather the same people that came here before there was a chance. It has not happened so far though, partly but not exclusively because tumblr is dead. It all boils down to one thing. Halo is more this sites type of game, even if its not our favorite genre and Microsofts best days arent these days. Everyone knows what Halo is and that absolutely matters, particularly when youre forced to vote in four matches. Life is Strange is not our type of game and never will be, no matter how many of them they release. Its first and foremost not a game that youd ever need help in, but more importantly, it has a younger demographic than us. Also, it just isnt as big as some of us like to make it out to be. Ive seen people absolutely love it mostly because of relatable characters you can really feel, especially in our time. Ive played it myself and it was enjoyable, but nothing revolutionary. I also didnt think any of the actors were all too great though mostly fine. While I was hooked at first, I did not think it could round the story off properly. Having played the game might be reason I picked against it here, because while its hard to be confident in a Halo game, you should never feel confident in having a game like this do well on our site. However, it has a dedicated enough fanbase that it will probably return to the field again. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1361 |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 5:19:23 PM #452 | Anyone got a FAQ up they can edit similarily in future matches to help their game lol? --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | ~~ Ctes' Post-Contest Analysis (PCA) ~~ |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 5:04:14 PM #7 | Round 1 Division 1 Day 1 The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild 85.02% The Outer Worlds 14.98% Prediction Percentage 96.95% For the opening match of the contest, this was actually a pretty interesting one. It was the clear sign of just how beastly Breath of the Wild would be. Of course BotW would win big and of course it would have the biggest prediction percentage of the contest, but breaking 85% is insane. Only three other games failed to break 15% and they all ended up at the bottom of the x-stats too. This also came right after a contest where only a match involving our most hated character, Draven, was such a big blowout. Breath of the Wild is an expected winner, that almost always gives you some number of anti-votes and sure enough, Breath of the Wild did worse in the first 15 minutes, but its still incredible. The craziest thing is it didnt face some of the worst turbofodder we had in this bracket. The Outer Worlds had just finished right behind Sekiro in a GotY poll, a game that was a popular upset pick to make round 3 and neither was that far away from the overall winner, Resident Evil 2. It was clearly ahead of Devil May Cry 5 in that poll. There is a lot of uncertainty in using Game of the Year polls for anything, but theyre a fine indicator. The Outer Worlds could probably win a fair share of matches, but instead it got to be completely obliterated against the contest favorite. Now, The Outer Worlds probably has a less dedicated fanbase than a bunch of our other weak entries, which might help fuel BotW. The game is often confused with Outer Wilds, that says something about it, but even so, Breath of the Wild opened up looking even better than expected and we expected it to roll over the contest, thats very impressive. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | ~~ Ctes' Post-Contest Analysis (PCA) ~~ |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 4:53:13 PM #5 | UltimaterializerX posted... Good shit! Dont be shy about archiving on the wiki, brother. Thanks, pal! Yeah, I'll put them there sometime after you make the pages. If anyone enjoys doing so, you're obviously welcome too. Averia was a huge help last time. If you see this, thanks again! But I'll get them there otherwise. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | An analysis of how each year performed in Game of the Decade 2 |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 4:42:37 PM #39 | tag! --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | ~~ Ctes' Post-Contest Analysis (PCA) ~~ |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 4:41:27 PM #3 | No franchise had more than two games in the bracket and this is clearly a rule that have been said. Mario did have three games in the bracket if you count Mario Kart, but it would perhaps be a bit too extreme to include all spin-off games from Mario. I do still think this is a bit too extreme. I understand that Allen wanted the most representative bracket as possible for a contest titled Game of the Decade and I believe the lack of a second Pokemon game is due to Allen thinking they arent different enough. It did however not make for a better contest in my opinion. We had a lot of fodder in this contest. That was always gonna happen when we excluded everything before 2010, but it was more than necessary imo. The bracket became a bit too chalky as a result and round 1 would have a lot of expected blowouts. I think the run Mario Kart 8 ended up doing is exactly what Allen wanted to avoid too much of. Nintendo is by far the most unfortunate when it comes to the bracket. The rule itself prevented stuff like Skyward Sword and a Mario Maker from making it in and I think its a real shame. I dont think a franchise should be punished for being too good. Imagine if a 90s GotY contest only had two of 3, World and 64, everyone would riot! The cap only need to be a little higher than two and wed have more interesting matches in round 1. It also results in the 3DS, which was a good contender for best console early in the bracket, have almost no games in the bracket, because we slightly prefer console games. Bracket placement was also rough on Nintendo. Allen wanted to avoid Nintendo domination, but I think he went overboard. Ultimate/Odyssey and BotW/the winner of that means that we would get no real read on the other big Switch games and have mostly boring matches. At this point of the contest, everyone was certain Ultimate was winning the former too and while doubt came as we went, and it ended up being true. It doesnt even stop there though! Big 2015 snub A Link Between Worlds was fed directly to Smash. Xenoblade 2 couldve been fun elsewhere and if you count them, both Bayonetta games were given completely unwinnable first round matches. After a contest where everything represented in Smash was stronger than expected, only HGSS, Mario Kart 8, Awakening and the winner of Xenoblade/Three Houses had a chance to do that. The biggest shame is definitely not getting a real feel for Odyssey and Ultimate. When that is all said, Allen did succeed at making a very diverse bracket. Not just by the variation in types of games but also in release years. I have forgotten who, but someone made this nice chart showing that there isnt too much of a difference between how well each year was being represented: https://imgur.com/a/8GSjaYU Of course, some are a bit more than others and rightfully so, wed learn, but no year was snubbed. Breath of the Wild was perhaps the most expected winner we have ever had, and for sure for a new entrant unless we count Link/Ganondorf and 1998 as new entrants. All contenders for second were thrown in the opposite half of the bracket. Look at the games seeded 1. I dont doubt its on purpose that the Nintendo game and the two weakest were put into the same half as Breath of the Wild. Except for this however, we knew almost nothing of the field and some of the entries we had seen before like Witcher 3 and Dark Souls were expected to be much stronger due to respect and the contest title. A vast majority of the games were not in the 2015 contest either due to being too weak or just not released. Part of what made Game of the Decade I such a great contest was that most of the big games were left out and its the same thing here, only this time we had not had a games contest a small year before so we had much less to base our predictions on, so it was very exciting to get going. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | ~~ Ctes' Post-Contest Analysis (PCA) ~~ |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 4:41:04 PM #2 | Pre-Contest Thoughts The first Game of the Decade was a fantastic contest. It was quite possibly the best contest weve had, so I was very excited when this one was announced as expected. In fact, Ive been some level of excited since the previous one ended, but mostly instantly afterwards and the past years. A lot have happened here since then, so its a slightly different format. While still 128 entrants in a 1v1 bracket, this time 12-hour matches are no longer a thing, instead we have several matches a day, which I do prefer. Since then weve had some large rallies overtaking the contest partly due to the aforementioned low votals, so in 2018 a lot of anti-rally measurements were taken and all of those still apply today. This meant a registered user bonus when voting so that votes count double if you registered an account before the contest began and it also meant you had to vote in every match a day. The former of the two had changed results in the previous contest, so it is worth factoring in. The second thing while smaller likely also makes a difference in earlier matches. There were no losers bracket this time, perhaps partly because most of the field has not been a contest before, so who would you remove? Of course, we couldve still had the losers bracket when we reached top 16 if we wanted to, but I dont mind it not being around this time, in particular if it would be constructed like last time where you run into the same entrant again in the losers bracket instead of being thrown into the opposite side. We did still get a second chance bracket that would go up in a week long break after the first three rounds, so there would still be something other than the regular bracket challenge to work on. Last Game of the Decade we had the Battle Challenge contest. I like that we try out some different things, as long as we keep the ordinary challenge. Nominations went on for quite a while this time, there was a few delays for unexplained reasons both during nominations and during bracket creation. It did serve the purpose of pushing the contest into the time where the whole world was closed down to the pandemic and I have personally loved having this during the worst of it. The timing was perfect to me. The most interesting thing we learned during the nomination period was that remakes and remasters were in the database making them eligible for the first time. Allen actively removed Ocarina of Time 3D and Majoras Mask 3D indicating that it had to be full remakes, but the line ended up being shaky. The database had things such as Shadow of the Colossus and Ico, which would be very weird and stupid to have in the contest so perhaps Allen only actively removed the Zelda games because people were actually nominating them. The bracket came out and theres a lot to talk about there. On the account of remakes, three of them ended up being in and it shows that the line of eligibility is a bit weird. Resident Evil 2 is quite the different game and right after its Game of the Year victory here it was expected to make it in. Then we had Pokemon HeartGold and SoulSilver and Persona 4 Golden, which were both more debatable. The latter especially is not much more original than the Zelda games, so perhaps Allen just specifically wanted no previous contest winners. Hopefully well still be able to see FFVIIR in a decade from now, thats a vastly different game! All three remakes were high seeds, so its possible Allen were not hugely in favor of remakes in general while these three were too popular to keep out. They made for a lot of discussion about whether or not they would act as proxies for the games theyre a remake of and to what extent. While were talking about Pokemon, one of the first things I noticed were how little representation it had. The only entry is a remake of a 90s game which didnt even release this decade in Japan. It seems odd that Pokemon GO or some other generation didnt get in especially considering HGSS was seeded 3. Was it really favored that much? I have a hard time believing that no other Pokemon game had no more nominations than some of the things that made it in, perhaps Allen thought one was enough seeing how similar they are. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | ~~ Ctes' Post-Contest Analysis (PCA) ~~ |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 4:33:02 PM #1 | Welcome to my Post-Contest Analysis (PCA) for Game of the Decade II! I have done one of these before during our previous games contest back in 2015. My motivation is first and foremost that I love these contests, theyre the primary reason Im here and have been here for a long time by now. I love discussing them and I believe I have some great points to bring to the table. I learned recently that Im the fifth best overall guru for the previous decade, which is all the ones Ive participated in, and while I made incorrect assumptions pre-contest of course, Ive been right about all but two matches involving the same game since round 2 began and was the first to predict azuarc as guru winner. This sounds a lot more arrogant than intended. I am trying to make a point that I want t share my thoughts because I think theres some level of quality in them, which is a great motivation for me as well. A lot of the ideas Ill put fourth will be ideas that Ive had presented to me by other contest nerds here. None of this means everything here is facts, obviously, and I hope a lot of the write-ups can lead to some discussion. Im also not trying to turn any attention away from Ulti or any other PCA. Those were a great inspiration for me to do this five years ago and I always read and enjoy them, I recommend you do the same! I do think its fun to see different perspectives, however. The primary point of the topic is that we look back at every match with what we know post contest and analyze why things went as they did where Ill begin the discussion with me write-up. I have no specific timetable for this. The most important thing for me is to keep a consistent pace. Without rushing things, I expect to not move slower than the contest did and I will strive to do more than four matches a day on average, although what matches come up will also influence that, there will obviously be a lot more to say about some than others. My schedule is usually not very consistent, but due to the pandemic, its more consistent than ever, which hopefully means the pacing will be constant. When that is said, there may be days off if something comes up, but I will do my best to learn of such days ahead and possible have some write-ups ready. Also, Im European and the times I post these will reflect that. Finally, be nice to everyone! Im a stats topic regular and I enjoy them, but occasionally the discussion gets unfriendly and aggressive. Youre entitled to disagree with me or others, but please do so without being rude and keep insults out of here. The saying that stupid questions doesnt exist but only stupid answers has a lot of truth to it. Please do your best to be polite. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Han plays Life is Strange |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 2:36:01 PM #14 | It's enjoyable for most part imo. Not fantastic. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | * GotD 2020 Guru Contest Stats & Discussion - Part Two * |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 2:34:33 PM #398 | I will take some pride in being the first to predict azuarc as champion here. Congrats! --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Game of the Decade 2 Oracle Challenge - Bonus Round |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 1:54:47 PM #30 | The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - 52.51% Super Smash Bros. Ultimate - 54.51% --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1361 |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 12:32:14 PM #403 | MechanicalWall posted... SotC went 60-40 with RDR in 2015, which is just about how well Smash Ultimate does on it through XBC as proxy. There is at least one bandwagon in that line though, possibly two. That's before considering if the first RDR boosted from 2 releasing. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1361 |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 11:23:20 AM #390 | Allen did the Majora thing, hinting at tomorrow's bonus match. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
Topic | Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1361 |
ctesjbuvf 05/13/20 10:10:21 AM #381 | Odyssey should be considered too --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. |
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