Board 8 > Who was each year's contest MVP?

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red sox 777 posted...

Yes! Pokemon is the most dronish fanbase of all!

And Zelda is the least. *Runs*

It's true! Chunners wouldn't have embarrassed Ganondorf if that wasn't the case.

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Nah, Undertale was only in serious danger against ME3 because there was a chance it would run out of time.

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KamikazePotato posted...

Vivi > Mario is easily the most shocked I've ever been by a contest result. There was a rally and LFF but it shouldn't have mattered. The rally wasn't that big, especially by 2013 standards, and Ganondorf folded like a wet paper bag. I think one of the Crew Writeups gave Mario 70% or something! This was also before the contest truly descended into insanity. Results were still making sense. Even if you factor in a Vivi strength boost I'm still not sure how this happened.

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~*Posts from the Crew Archive*~

Division 8: Round 2 - Match 103 (1) Mario vs. (6) Vivi vs. (9) Ganondorf

Moltars Analysis

Mario
Round 1 69.47% vs. Duke and Fawful

Strong showing from Mario

Vivi
Round 1 62.18% vs. Adam and Marisa

Vivi did well too

Ganondorf
Round 1 65.18% vs. Guybrush and Max

So did Ganon!

This match sucks.

Moltars Prediction: Mario: 54% - Vivi: 26% - Ganondorf: 20%

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Lopens Analysis

What a waste of Ganondorf

What a waste of Vivi

What a waste of space

Lopen's Prediction:
Mario - 50.14%
Vivi - 34.30%
Ganondorf - 15.56%

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Leonharts Analysis

Mario: Voted Most Popular

Vivi Ornitier: Voted Best Magic Show

Ganondorf: Voted the Other White Meat

Mario wins and Ganondorf suffers for being in the match with him. Its just a matter of whether hell get hit hard enough to lose to Vivi. Nintendo has no problem fodderizing one of their own, but will they do it when Mario doesnt really need the help? Maybe not, but Ganons such a leech that it might not even matter. The fact that Ganondorf is popular at all is proof that Zelda fans are the biggest drones of all! Pokemon got nothin on this!

Leonharts Vote: Vivi Ornitier

Leonharts Prediction:

Mario 55.00%
Vivi Ornitier 25.00%
Ganondorf 20.00%

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Kleenexs Analysis

Snooze-o-rama. Mario in first, the 'dorf gets smashed into last, Vivi brings up the middle. Or something like that. Not quite a 44/33/22 special because Mario's a bit stronger than that, but it'll be close.

Kleenex's Prediction
Mario with 49.00%
Vivi with 31.00%
Ganondorf with 20.00%

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Transiences Analysis

Mario and Ganondorf! Does Mario SFF the christ out of the biggest Nintendo leech around, or does he retain some power because ZELDA.

Vivi should benefit here bigtime, and I'm sure everyone pick him for second. But I'm worried that Ganondorf won't lie down like he did for Link since Zelda is obviously a bigger deal here. He didn't lie down for Samus a number of years ago. Anyway, still picking Vivi without hesitation. This site doesn't seem as colorblind as it did a few years ago.

transience's prediction:

Mario with 42%
Vivi with 33%
Ganondorf with 25%

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KP's Analysis

Mario is going to eat this poll alive, probably. Vivi isn't *that* strong and he should SFF Ganondorf pretty good. I don't see Ganondorf having the fortitude to hold up to Nintendo's main man - he doesn't have 'being the name of the series' to fall back on like Zelda does.

Mario - 50%
Vivi - 27%
Ganondorf -23%

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Crew Consensus: Mario wins easy
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writeups written seconds before disaster

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Zelda drones indeed

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I dont think you can deny Undertale was in danger against Melee. Easy to see that one going the other way.

Link was cutting at too fast a rate for that downtime to do nothing, there was less than 700 votes in it at the end. Dravens rally seemed to come in waves rather than be responsive, otherwise Link would never have mounted sustained comebacks. It was looking tight for a while at the end there.

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I honestly felt like Pokemon was in a better position to beat Undertale than Melee was. Melee peaked too early.

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Agreed, I thought Pokemon was the bigger threat, especially coming after 2013's contest.

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Thanks for the writeups, i enjoyed reading these

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People are probably going to point to Melee/Undertale to debunk this, but I think RBY definitely would have won with higher natural voters. It legitimately looked like there was some form of rally backfiring by Undertale that match more than any other one it had.

The vulnerability with Undertale as opposed to Draven is that not all reblogs are equal, while on Reddit an upvote is an upvote. There were a handful of Tumblrs with huge fanbases that were key to helping spread the rally, and if some of them like the other game and snub Undertale one day, the rally will slow. Maybe not enough, but the big ones came through every match so it's hard to tell what would have happened.

The most important Tumblr in this respect was a Pokemon-based one where the blogger would make custom Pokemon sprites for people. Whenever their rallies fell off the front of their Tumblr, Undertale would drop off, but then the person running the Tumblr would make a new rally post, and the votes would surge. The trends for Undertale's matches all moved around this one Tumblr, and while it's easy to look at things like this purely mathematically, sometimes it all comes down to the personal. If this Pokemon Tumblr decided to support (either passively or actively) Pokemon instead, I think it could have won.

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2015 Games
https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Fall_2015_Contest

MVP: Chrono Trigger
Confidence: 60%

First, let me address the elephant in the room. Undertale was a good rally, but we had seen something like this before. Once we saw round 1 vs. Mass Effect 3, it was widely known that this was going to be the fate of the contest for the rest of the way. There wasn't any suspense or any buildup. It was going to get the votes that it needed, no matter what, unless something could out-rally it. I remember getting a lot of heat because for one Crew writeup I just wrote, "Undertale wins." and picked a percentage somewhere in the 50s. It was low effort but that was because there wasn't anything to really predict besides if the rally came or not, and you knew it would come.

The one good thing about the Undertale rally is that the people were genuinely enthusiastic about the game, whereas with the Draven rally it was primarily to ruin the contest. You could see it in the way the rest of the 2013 contest played out. There were some bad eggs on the Undertale side, but we were pretty bad eggs all around too.

The highlight of a contest run is when you put up an unfathomable result and then keep adding to it round after round. Undertale never had that. You know what did? Chrono Trigger. Chrono Trigger came out and just destroyed its round 1 competition and just kept upping the ante round after round. By the time it got to round 2 (DQ8), people called SFF. The best contest runs are the ones where people have to justify your result with some goofy form of SFF or some other excuse. By round 3, it was doubling FFX and putting its name in the ring as the game that would actually challenge Ocarina, which could only pull 65% on FF9.

Of course, round 4 hits and a 60% lead on Melee turns into a rally that CT can't quite fight back on. Even still, it got pretty close, only losing by a thousand votes despite 30,000 more votes than the previous round. That was a real disappointment but in a way it only enhances CT's legacy. Here is a game that's been left for dead after numerous crushing losses that rises like a phoenix and dies before it gets a chance to finish its mission. We'll talk about what could have been in 2015 for a long time.

Honorable Mention: Undertale, Super Metroid, Super Mario RPG, Metal Gear Solid 3

2015 had a lot of really good runs because there were decades-long storylines that we were rewriting in the moment. Take Super Metroid. Like Chrono Trigger, Metroid has taken some real lumps over the years, whether it's getting murdered by Link to the Past or losing hard to Mario or holding off Super Mario Kart by just a handful of votes. 2015 was a year of exorcising Metroid's demons, first wiping out a Mario game and then going toe to toe with our game of the decade. Super Metroid couldn't quite pull it off during the day vote but this was a huge boost on the last 11 years. Super Metroid was finally legit and not a Nintendo leech.

The best run of the year was technically Super Mario RPG, which made an improbable run. SMRPG was never really that amazing. It got doubled by CT in 2004 and got beat pretty good by Goldeneye with MK64 in the poll. It had a 9 seed here. It still ran a gauntlet of upper tier games - Oblivion, GTA5, Chrono Cross, RE4 and MGS3 - to reach the semifinals. It honestly wasn't even that close. SMRPG was never really in danger.

But still, there was something about the SMRPG run. That bottom semifinal spot was custom made for a non-Nintendo, non-Square game to represent. We threw everything we could at it here. And yet here we were, a Nintendo/Square hybrid crashing the party. It was a bit of an indictment of ourselves, and also because very few people think SMRPG should be considered one of the 4 best games of all time. Even Undertale belonged here more than SMRPG.

It didn't go as far, but I liked MGS3's run a little bit more just because of how unusual it was. MGS3 couldn't break 70% on Mother 3 and then put up a disastrous 52% on Bioshock. How are you going to beat MGS1 if you struggle with Bioshock? But then it went on to beat Mass Effect 2 pretty convincingly and then to topple MGS1. It's pretty rare that we see a newer entry take out the progenitor, but after many attempts, MGS3 showed that it is the best MGS game in the series. Of course, that's not good enough to take out a SNES RPG with Mario in it.

There are other interesting runs, such as Pokemon RBY beating Mario 3 in a second match that felt more like a semifinal due to how the bracket drew out. RBY looks to have beaten Mario 3 in a close one but then Undertale spillover threw the whole match out of whack. The rest of the run was basically just wondering if RBY had what it took to hold off the Undertale rally and, oh hey, it didn't. RBY could have had a Chrono Trigger-like buildup and could have been a likely finals contender but we'll just never know. As for me, I never really took RBY as being a serious threat because the Undertale comeback rallies were just immense. Also, I was pretty down on RBY's round 1 match against Tetris, a game it should have SFFed to oblivion but couldn't even match what Zelda 1 scored in 2004. Chrono Trigger was going to town immediately.

So yeah, this is a good contest with a lot of really good runs, but with Undertale gumming things up in the middle of it. But even with that, we managed to have a lot of really fantastic matches thanks to finally getting a real-ass game contest.

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transience posted...

I remember getting a lot of heat because for one Crew writeup I just wrote, "Undertale wins."

ha I remember this because for the same match I just wrote "Meh" so we both took heat for that!
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tgs2 posted...

People are probably going to point to Melee/Undertale to debunk this, but I think RBY definitely would have won with higher natural voters. It legitimately looked like there was some form of rally backfiring by Undertale that match more than any other one it had.

I always wonder what would have happened if RBY managed to beat Undertale. There's a possibility it then rides a wave to the finals and takes out Ocarina.

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_SecretSquirrel posted...

I always wonder what would have happened if RBY managed to beat Undertale. There's a possibility it then rides a wave to the finals and takes out Ocarina.

and I probably finish on the leaderboard

good times
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transience posted...

The best run of the year was technically Super Mario RPG, which made an improbable run. SMRPG was never really that amazing. It got doubled by CT in 2004 and got beat pretty good by Goldeneye with MK64 in the poll. It had a 9 seed here. It still ran a gauntlet of upper tier games - Oblivion, GTA5, Chrono Cross, RE4 and MGS3 - to reach the semifinals. It honestly wasn't even that close. SMRPG was never really in danger.

But still, there was something about the SMRPG run. That bottom semifinal spot was custom made for a non-Nintendo, non-Square game to represent. We threw everything we could at it here. And yet here we were, a Nintendo/Square hybrid crashing the party. It was a bit of an indictment of ourselves, and also because very few people think SMRPG should be considered one of the 4 best games of all time. Even Undertale belonged here more than SMRPG.

Hey, it was the second best game in the bottom quarter! Chrono Cross #1.
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LeonhartFour posted...

and I probably finish on the leaderboard

good times

I'd likely win prize money, guaranteed if the Melee fanbase keeps their grubby hands off of CT's match.

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_SecretSquirrel posted...

I always wonder what would have happened if RBY managed to beat Undertale. There's a possibility it then rides a wave to the finals and takes out Ocarina.

RBY would have to face Melee first and god knows who will emerge victorious from that.

And then whatever wins will face Ocarina in the finals, which wont be easy, considering Ocarina SFFs practically every Nintendo game out there and RBY/Melee rallies will have pretty high backfire rates.

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RBY would be SFFing Melee something fierce compared to CT just being naturally stronger than Melee. The natural strength gap would have been too much to overcome unless the Melee that showed up against Undertale showed up there as well.

Yesmar_ posted...

The vulnerability with Undertale as opposed to Draven is that not all reblogs are equal, while on Reddit an upvote is an upvote. There were a handful of Tumblrs with huge fanbases that were key to helping spread the rally, and if some of them like the other game and snub Undertale one day, the rally will slow. Maybe not enough, but the big ones came through every match so it's hard to tell what would have happened.

The most important Tumblr in this respect was a Pokemon-based one where the blogger would make custom Pokemon sprites for people. Whenever their rallies fell off the front of their Tumblr, Undertale would drop off, but then the person running the Tumblr would make a new rally post, and the votes would surge. The trends for Undertale's matches all moved around this one Tumblr, and while it's easy to look at things like this purely mathematically, sometimes it all comes down to the personal. If this Pokemon Tumblr decided to support (either passively or actively) Pokemon instead, I think it could have won.

That is true, but one thing to take into account now that I am thinking about it, is Toby Fox's deep connections with Homestuck. It easily explains the big Tumblr rally potential and why a bunch of tumblrs focusing on other games would rally Undertale. To support Hussie's basement dwelling music man's video game. Hussie even outright called Undertale Homestuck's legacy.

LeonhartFour posted...

ha I remember this because for the same match I just wrote "Meh" so we both took heat for that!

can confirm

(it was the match against pokemon)

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2002 MVP was Link, the man was unstoppable that contest it was scary

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20th anniversary should be a rerun of the 2002 contest. Only problem is my boy Squall getting fed to Snake round 1.

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2017 Years
https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Best_Year_in_Gaming

MVP: 1998
Confidence: 90%

So yeah, this contest barely merits mentioning as an honest to god contest, though I do like it better than rivalry because at least we usually knew what we were voting on. The rivalry concept was so goofy that it didn't even make sense what you were supposed to vote on.

Unfortunately, this one gets a bad taste in my mouth because I had 1997 > 2001 in my bracket, and if it happens I would have won money or maybe the Guru or I don't remember exactly. But 1997 getting screwed by the picture really killed it. I know gaming years extremely well just because that's a thing that I randomly care about, but others aren't going to know that Symphony of the Night is 1997 or that Super Metroid is 1994. Oh well.

The big match here, outside of 97/01, was 1991 vs. 1994, which the underdog 1994 won. And 1998 murdered everything. In fact, I kinda wonder if 1998 could have beaten the rest of the 90s combined. That year is unbelievably stacked.

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Yeah, 91/94 and 97/01 both cost me big. I was doing pretty well up to that point!

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I won money on that one so I enjoyed it more than I probably should have...!

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transience posted...

The big match here, outside of 97/01, was 1991 vs. 1994, which the underdog 1994 won.

The only way you could consider 1994 the underdog is if you consider console launches and include SNES for '91, otherwise 1994 is the bully here.

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UltimaterializerX posted...

Tumblr is not the reason Undertale won. Twitter is. Allen showed us the referral traffic. Tumblr was a distant third behind Twitter and Reddit.

Twitter might have been the biggest contributor to overall traffic, but Tumblr getting the ball rolling can't exactly be ignored either.

That sentence has implicatons on the effectiveness of future rallies, as Tumblr is never going to do that again since the platform dropped significantly once they got rid of the porn.

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think 97/01 cost me from being literally top...3 on the leaderboard, I think?

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lordjers posted...

The only way you could consider 1994 the underdog is if you consider console launches and include SNES for '91, otherwise 1994 is the bully here.

not according to the gurus:

1991 - 76 (52.05%)
1994 - 46 (31.51%)

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I picked 1991 thinking it would be the underdog and it ended up being the favorite.

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2018
https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/Character_Battle_X

MVP: Zelda
Confidence: 85%

Zelda getting stronger makes sense since she was front and center in the biggest game of the decade. Sure, she might beat Squall if people really value her run, and maybe a great run would be letting her face off against one of the noble nine that we segregated off from the rest of the bracket (well, besides Sephiroth, because lol Sephiroth)

But this run was crazy. Zelda had one of the best kinds of runs, ones where you couldn't even reconcile the numbers you were seeing with logic. She rocked her first two opponents to set up the hype train, then destroyed Squall (ever notice how Squall always draws the characters that bulk up?), and put up a similar number against Aerith to reach the big boy bracket. Nobody could get to 40% against Zelda. It felt almost like Link.

But most of these amazing runs end up falling off when they finally face a real opponent, and let's face it, this was Zelda. A secondary character like this has never had any success of actually bulking up to take on the big guys. Ganondorf was always rumored to be the one who could put Sonic or Samus in their place, but at every chance he had, they pushed him back without much struggle (or he couldn't even make it there). But now Zelda had the results to suggest she could beat the bottom half of the noble nine.

Zelda's first match was against Snake, widely thought to be the second or third strongest character depending on what you thought of Cloud. Zelda edged him out, then rocked Sonic, then beat Mario. Now, I understand beating non-Nintendo characters when the site goes bonkers in the Nintendo direction, but Mario? The only character that could put her in her place was Link, and then she had a nailbiter match with Cloud in the loser's final where her luck finally ran out.

I have absolutely no idea what to do with Zelda if we ever have another character battle. She could stay the second or third strongest character in the bracket or fall apart. I have no idea. Her BOTW role isn't significant enough for this to make any kind of sense.

Honorable Mention: Samus, Cloud, Pikachu, Tifa, Alucard, 2B

First of all, let me talk about how hard it is to keep this contest straight. Four matches a day means that individual results kind of blur together. There isn't the same buildup as having one match a day, and to make things even more complicated, the losers bracket just felt like contest fanfiction where we got every manner of noble nine match day after day. As a result this contest is a straight up mess in my memory.

Samus didn't have any really impressive wins, and honestly not even a contest run. But Samus standing up to Mario was huge. Mario/Samus 2005 is one of our most infamous matches and Samus stood up to Mario not once but twice. Samus didn't win, but she pulled 49% in the first match and came about as close as you could in the losers bracket rematch, a true 50/50 match until Mario pulled a big final update to take it by just a handful of votes. It sucked that Samus couldn't get one over but this was just as good. She had proven her legitimacy and we got the Mario/Cloud rematch that we wanted, with Mario reasserting his contest villain status once more.

Cloud's run really stands out though. It's a weird, wistful, nostalgic kind of run. Cloud was once a contest villain, the guy everyone antivoted in the early going. But 20 years is a long time without a proper new game and Cloud had grown quite long in the tooth, turning into what Crono used to be: just an old fogey. He wasn't even competing with Link anymore: in their semifinal, every single Guru picked Link except for 11 people who picked... Monika. Now Cloud needed a good result just to hold off Snake, and that's to say nothing of his 16 year old rival, Mario.

With Zelda beasting all contest, it was clear that Cloud had no chance against Link and indeed he couldn't even get to 40% against him. Going into the losers bracket, How would he handle a match with Mario? Mario was the clear board favourite but the underdog Cloud managed to edge him out in a rematch we had been waiting a long time for. Cloud reached the losers bracket final, where he would have to deal with a Zelda on steroids. Again he was the underdog, and again he managed to barely pull it off. Cloud had day vote comebacks on both Mario and Zelda, ironic given how many day vote comebacks he had to swallow from Link over the years. Cloud got destroyed by Link in the final again, and it's sad that our #2 is now relegated to needing a comeback to beat Link's maiden, but it was still great to see him hold on regardless.

Pikachu/Mega Man was a debate all contest, and the match lived up to the hype, but Pikachu ever so slightly pulling off the upset (I think this might have been the first 1v1 24 hour victory against the NN?), and then Mega Man getting the rat back in the losers bracket. This was a nice little rivalry and it was interesting to see Pikachu stand up against an off-brand Nintendo icon. But, I guess Pikachu is an icon in his own way.

Tifa's run is a good one. She had a great match with MMX that I remember thinking was BS. Maybe it was one of those hentai rallies that seem to hit us every other match? It's been a bit. Anyway, that's almost forgettable becauseTifa over Sephiroth is one of the most shocking results in contest history, at least for me. Tifa got rocked by Samus the round prior, and Sephiroth looked pretty bad throughout the baby bracket, but this is Sephiroth vs. another FF7 character and he never had a chance. Sephiroth has always had the weirdest results and this was no exception.

When we talk about the main bracket, Alucard stands out as having maybe the best run. His round 1 match with Peach was debated, as was his round 2 with Yuna, as was his round 3 with Kefka and his round 4 with Red. Only 1 person had Alucard getting through all that, but he did, and put a full 49% on Bowser in the losers bracket. Maybe we see that in 2003, but never at any time since then. Alucard would struggle to avoid a doubling from Bowser, but 2018 Alucard was legit.

And finally, 2B. It was hard to have any expectations for 2B, a character from a niche RPG that didn't even seem to qualify as niche at the time. But 2B blew up some Destiny character, beat Ness handily and then broke 40% on Bowser. It wasn't a huge upset run due to bracket placement but it might have been the most uplifting result of the contest: a new character from a new series that wasn't looking good due to inclusion in a Smash game or being Nintendo-adjacent. 2B signaled a new RPG series that we had no expectations for that could possibly do some damage in future years.

2018 is a year of turning previous expectations upside down, and despite the low interest and vote totals, all of the noble nine matches were still pretty interesting. Pretty good contest - a lot easier to like than 2013.

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Good analysis, but Geralt definitely deserves an honorable mention there too.
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I still get hyped up when I remember Zelda's run, what a monster

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Trust me, I've noticed Squall's bad luck, even dumb stuff like Sonic getting announced for Brawl mid-contest in 2007!

But yeah, Zelda was the clear MVP. She beat multiple Noble Niners 1-on-1, which no one has ever done.

Tifa's run would be MVP-worthy any other year though. I get tired of people trying to discount the MMX win because the hentai rally only started because X rallied to take the lead first.

And the impact of those rallies is always overstated. Tifa could've beaten X with or without rallies.

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the true MVP is hentai

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Mac Arrowny posted...

Good analysis, but Geralt definitely deserves an honorable mention there too.

Eh, he was basically the Scorpion of 2018 who made a deep run because there wasn't anyone truly great in his half of the division. He had some good matches but I don't trust that number on Auron at all.

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Hmm, that's fair. I think Geralt would do even better in the next character contest though.
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Mac Arrowny posted...

Hmm, that's fair. I think Geralt would do even better in the next character contest though.

Oh, he will, for sure. The Netflix show helps him even more than it helped the game. He will be a wild card next time.

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If that Geralt number is legit then we need to start debating Vincent Valentine vs. Simon Belmont.

...Which I'm totally willing to do, but still!

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I want to congratulate Cloud for breaking 40% on Link in the grand final. In a year where Zelda rampaged through the bracket and was miles above Sephiroth, Link still couldn't break 60% on Cloud at the end of the contest. And remember, Mario has never broken 40% on Link. Samus has never broken 40% on Link. Megaman has never broken 40% on Link. Sonic has never broken 40% on Link. Crono has never broken 40% on Link. In 18 years, Cloud, Sephiroth, Snake, and rally/joke characters are the only ones who have ever held our champion under 60%, and Sephiroth isn't remotely up to the challenge anymore.

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Geralt had a fine run but that whole eightpack was a big coin flip. it wasn't a surprise that he did okay like 2B was.

edit: I just looked and Geralt was actually the bracket favourite by a good bit to make it to Auron.

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Yeah, Geralt was the favorite by default because no one knew what knew what to make of that mess. I took Hayabusa because he was the known quantity. Whoops!

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Great topic.

2002 - I'd say Link in 2002 is deserving. He wasn't a guaranteed winner, and he had to prove to everyone that he was THE LAW and not just a Noble Niner.

2004 - When I think of 2004, the first thing I think of is "that was the year of Frog's run."

I I still love the thought everyone's putting into this topic, it's a good one.

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Cloud winning against Mario and Zelda, then actually cracking 40% on Link was fantastic imo. What a turn of events. When Mario finally got the chance to run into someone other than Link, who he had been fed to so many times, I couldn't even root for him. Cloud getting the revenge after 16 years after Mario renewed his contest villain status was just perfect.

Also, Tifa winning against MMX was not BS.

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This will likely forever be my proudest prediction moment.

http://www.oraclechallenge.com/archives.php?contest=SC2k18&type=match&match=132


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I made many bad picks that year, but Im really proud of Simon>Ryu H., along with Crash>Cecil. My big mistake was trusting Final Fantasy.

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Alucard wasn't the actual MVP but I feel like he was the MVP of our hearts. Everyone likes Alucard and his unexpected run was super fun to watch.

Tifa > Sephiroth is hilarious. If you take it at face value then it confirms the existence of rSFF, as it puts Samus above Mario indirectly.

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KamikazePotato posted...

Alucard wasn't the actual MVP but I feel like he was the MVP of our hearts. Everyone likes Alucard and his unexpected run was super fun to watch.

Tifa > Sephiroth is hilarious. If you take it at face value then it confirms the existence of rSFF, as it puts Samus above Mario indirectly.

Could be double rSFF!

Alucard and Cloud were the feel good stories of 2018, but you can't give MVP to anyone other than Zelda.

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I declare that Crono is the strongest character and he got rSFF'd by Link and Cloud!

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