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It's actually great

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dolomedes posted...

so this will encourage people to have more children, which is the opposite of what would be helpful for humanity as a whole.

you're crazy man

Questionmarktarius posted...

Is this replacing WIC, or going right over the top?

right on top

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Romulox28 posted...

what industry are you in?

the union we'd be a subsidiary (is that the right term?) of is the Nonprofit Professional Employees Union

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we are 'working class' just not blue collar

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Questionmarktarius posted...

Is this adjusted for the size of the demographic?
"Baby boomers" are called that, because there were a hell of a lot of them made between 1945 and 1960-something.

I don't think it is, but any way you look at it that is bad for millennials, there are more of us than gen x and you can see the numbers right there

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dolomedes posted...

most of my co-workers over the years have been anti-union.

they did a great fuckin' job busting all the unions and convincing poor people that unions only exist to take their money. it's almost like your boss has a reason to hate unions and that reason is because it helps his employers.

oh, to be clear, me and my coworkers are all white collar 'professionals,' at least half of us have masters degrees or better

but I think we should still unionize lol

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other groups like ours in other states (even Texas) are unionizing and our national counterpart is unionized

my coworkers think it would be a big hassle for no benefit though

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most likely those white people will move and leave behind an increasingly minority 'inner-ring suburb'

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Garreyn posted...

I always love topics like this, which instantly expose people who have likely never spoken to a single homeless person in their life and lives behind their computer monitor.

I was homeless for almost a decade, what's your experience with it?

Garreyn posted...

Giving homeless people "affordable homes", "free mental health programs", etc is not the solution.

The evidence isn't on your side. What are you basing this on?


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Like, based on what you feel right now about homeless people, would you want to sleep in a room full of homeless people? I seriously doubt it. Now imagine you don't have a home. Are you now super enthused about it?

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Musourenka posted...

From my experience, most shelters do not let you have pets. Some of the sheltes also require you to swap out clothes to avoid bed bug infestations, so you don't usually get to keep much of your things.

How about just the fact that most adults don't want to be treated like children? It's really not rocket science. Homeless people are still people. Most of us also wouldn't be okay with having to deal with curfews and restrictive noise ordinances -- not to mention having to live in a barracks-style room full of other people -- just to have a place to sleep. A home and a shelter aren't remotely the same thing.

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darkprince45 posted...

Because I literally spend the morning of every shift cleaning out tunnels

How much time have you spent living in them vs living in a homeless shelter? Do you imagine that many of the homeless who refuse shelter might live some where more clean than a poop tunnel?

Why did you ask a question when you're just going to argue about it? You're not even asking follow up questions, you're just saying that homeless people should make better decisions based on what your opinion of a good decision is. I honestly don't think you're really interested in the problem

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darkprince45 posted...

youre also being a little ridiculous.

I'm being honest and answering your question.

darkprince45 posted...

Normal people arent offered anything aside from the really poor

'Normal' people get tons of benefits of government spending.

darkprince45 posted...

But to help the homeless from basically ruining society we need to now jump through hoops A, B ,C.

actually, I'm saying that there should be less bureaucracy and paternalism, so less hoops to jump through. Kind of weird for you to frame my argument that they shouldn't need to go through counseling and get clean before you give them an apartment as some how more burdensome than the reverse

darkprince45 posted...

I agree, they should be treated with respect. But theres nothing shameful about living temporarily in a shelter as opposed to being dirty in a tunnel filled poop and needles?

How would you know?

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Snickers_Pls posted...

its a nice gesture and i hope it will help some, but thats not much money.

shit, daycare alone for 1 month will net a grand

it's a lot of money if you have no income! the fact that it isn't conditioned on work is a huge deal

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darkprince45 posted...

Yes we do. We offer some of the best resources in the entire country. 5 empty shelters, job resource, housing resource, flights back home if they need it. They also opened a state of the art facility for homeless drug users. They each get a assigned a doctor and case worker. After they get clean they can live inside of the apartment side, live rent free and then get help on acquiring IDs, getting a job or school, as well as day to day tasks

yeah, exactly

you're saying they can stay in homeless shelters (no respect for their autonomy) or after they get clean they can stay some where

you're not starting by offering them a roof and respect for their individual autonomy

I get that you might not want to start there and have reasons not to do that, but I'm explaining to you that that is what is required to actually address the issue.

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Ultima Dragon posted...

If you gave every homeless person one million dollars right now to do whatever they wanted with it, how many do you think would actually turn their lives around and make something out of it? Maybe like 5-10%?

probably less

Ultima Dragon posted...

I think some people are just born broken, or they end up that way from a traumatic childhood or whatever.. and if you're broken, you're broken. That's about all there is to it. There's a lot more "dead weight" people in our society that any of us would care to admit or would like to think about.

that's also probably true

Ultima Dragon posted...

We want to believe that we can help everyone with the right approach and available resources, but it's not realistic.

not literally everyone, just many more than we currently do

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joe40001 posted...

And that is horrible, people behind that waste need to be fired if not arrested.

how about

[citation needed]

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Here's more on that if you're interested

https://www.urban.org/sites/default/files/publication/46721/411546-The-Skid-Row-Collaborative--.PDF

probably one issue with getting them to accept resources is that the resources you're giving them don't start with a roof over their head and a respect for their individual autonomy

you may or may not know this but various supportive services are ultimately kind of useless if you're going to go right back to sleeping on the street

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darkprince45 posted...

What do you do for a city like LA wheres not even room for normal people? Find the outskirts and build one of those high rise slums? Youre also going to have to most likely have on site 24/7 security

you guys are already doing this on a limited basis, although ultimately to solve your housing issues requires more than just addressing homelessness

https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/hpb20161014.734003/full/

Medicaid programs might also gain from having beneficiaries in supportive housing. Supportive housing might allow individuals to transition from more expensive institutional settings such as inpatient psychiatric facilities into community housing and might allow individuals to obtain more consistent treatment of chronic conditions in primary care settings so that they could reduce their number of emergency department visits and inpatient hospitalizations. For example, researchers have found that patients with housing have shorter hospital stays than homeless patients and that homeless patients have high readmission rates following an inpatient stay, with 70 percent of hospitalizations resulting in either another inpatient admission, observation status stay, or emergency department visit within thirty days of hospital discharge. A study of supportive housing in Los Angeles found that spending across public agencies in the county was 79 percent lower for residents with supportive housing than for homeless people. The majority of those savings came from reductions in spending on health care services, including a 91 percent reduction in average spending per month per person on certain inpatient hospitalizations and an 89 percent reduction in spending on emergency department services for individuals in supportive housing compared to spending for homeless individuals.


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give them housing with supportive services available

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DiegoSanchez206 posted...

Did you really think this board would be any different

there are tons of conservatives on ce

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https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/12/16/21024222/mitt-romney-michael-bennet-basic-income-kids-child-allowance

On Sunday, Sens. Mitt Romney (R-UT) and Michael Bennet (D-CO) announced a bipartisan plan to do something pretty extraordinary: establish a basic income for children in the United States.

The plan is relatively modest. Parents would get a guaranteed $1,500 in cash every year per child under the age of 6, no matter their income, and $1,000 per child aged 6 to 17. Another $1,000 in benefits per child, regardless of age, would phase in with income, as occurs under the Child Tax Credit already in the federal tax code.

Right now the Child Tax Credit is only refundable for people earning at least $2,500 per year, and even then, phases in gradually with earnings and is limited to only some of the credit. The result is that the poorest Americans like disabled parents, or parents who dont have any cash income are cut off from the benefit, and parents working for low wages or low hours dont get the full benefit.

Under Bennet/Romney, the full benefit would still be reserved for working parents. But for the first time in American history, the poorest parents would be guaranteed a benefit whether or not they are employed...

Romney and Bennet would pay for the change in part by repealing stepped-up basis. Thats a federal tax rule that greatly reduces the taxability of inherited property. It says that if, say, wealthy art collector Milburn Pennybags Sr. buys a painting for $10 that is worth $1 million when he dies years later, then Milburn Pennybags Jr. can sell it for $1.1 million and only pay capital gains tax on the $100,000 its appreciated between inheriting it and selling it. Under Romney and Bennets proposed change, the younger Pennybags would have to pay tax on the nearly $1.1 million in value the painting gained since his father bought it.

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Tmaster148 posted...

Why would you respect republicans when they clearly don't respect this country?

I like Mitt Romney, he's got a good bill out to address child poverty by raising taxes on rich people

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viewmaster_pi posted...

The things in Majora's Mask are things she actively hates in other games- time limit, weird saving caveats, losing items/money- but MM gets a special fluffy silk pillow to rest on because she played it as a kid, I guess?

it pulls it off well, partially because its intentionally used to support the atmosphere the rest of the game is already going for


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blablablax17 posted...

Literally starting my adult life in 2008 during the recession.

this is actually a huge part of it

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V-E-G-Y- posted...

Dere was a CEuser who paid for porn, downloaded everything and den sold it to other people for bitcoins before bitcoins was worth over thousands of dollars and now he's a literal millionaire

im jealous of him tbh

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K181 posted...

Man, then Mia Khalifa really fucked up.

It just depends what you're looking for

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Questionmarktarius posted...

Double down on hostile architecture in 3...2...

That's already happening anyway

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Pogo_Marimo posted...

Well, that's a bit of a shock. Good for the SCOTUS.

they technically just refused to hear the case, but its still good

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more people do drugs, governments have more revenue to spend on things other than jails, retailers like walmart get richer assuming its a full on legalization

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the big thing I've noticed is that the indie game market has become fully integrated into mainstream console gaming, which means there is a lot more crap to sift through but also a lot more 'hidden gems' out there. It was easier for sure when Nintendo only let developers release like 2 games a year

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we should keep the minimum wage and implement a UBI

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Tupacrulez posted...

Alot of the BS mechanics we used to hate are gone now, I find. Things put into the game to get around the fact that the hardware couldn't quite hack the idea.

I think I agree but can you elaborate?

SSJCAT posted...

i think games are moving away from that direction as well dude i feel like youre 5 years behind with this sentiment

which games are indicative of this move?

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I get the sense that there is a big difference in new teachers vs longer tenured ones and also at different levels of schooling.

I used to work part time at a library and one of my coworkers was a teacher who was working an extra job because of a divorce. But he only taught Biology in HS and had been teaching it for like 50 years, he did do IB or AP (maybe both?) classes too, which I think required some additional work each summer, but it was very minor.

I get the sense that there's more that goes into training and expectations for elementary teachers, but I dont know any personally

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DevsBro posted...

It's just unlabeled colored boxes

oh yeah lol idk why wikipedia does that, the explanation is under the map

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DevsBro posted...

That is the most useless map legend ever lmao

Is it just me or are you guys seeing this too?

what's wrong with it?

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_South

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darkprince45 posted...

In all reality, the movie ending makes more sense than a giant squid falling

idk I never watched the movie all the way through so maybe it did make sense in that context, though within the comic setting it entirely misses the point

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kim kardashian white

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they've never been married, but they are still together

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idk, the watchmen comic is pretty slow paced and I bet a lot of people skimmed huge portions of it so if that's the case I can understand kind of missing the point

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https://www.bcsprosoft.com/from-maintenance-to-martial-arts-more-states-are-taxing-services/

There are two ways for states to approach taxing services:

• Impose tax on specifically enumerated services (all others are exempt)
• Impose tax on all services, except those specifically exempted

Four states take the second approach, imposing sales tax on all services except those specifically exempted by law: Hawaii, New Mexico, South Dakota and West Virginia. Five states tax fewer than 20 services: Colorado, Illinois, Massachusetts, Nevada, Virginia.
The majority of states take the first approach, applying sales tax to only certain, specifically enumerated, services. And five states (Alaska, Delaware, Montana, New Hampshire, and Oregon) do not have a general sales tax...

Its not easy for states to broaden sales tax. Neither businesses nor individuals want to pay tax on anything thats always been exempt. When the District of Columbia expanded sales tax to yoga in 2014, scores of people performed the warrior pose on Freedom Plaza in protest. Earlier this year, a political action committee in Missouri started to craft a constitutional amendment that would prevent the state from taxing professional services. Businesses tend to fight tooth and nail to keep the services they most use exempt, and professional services providers such as attorneys often have influential friends in state capitals.

this is a perennial issue in state tax policy; pretty much all tax and budget experts agree that sales taxes should be expanded to services -- conservatives because it could be used to eliminate other taxes or reduce the overall sales tax rate and progressives because it would bring in state revenue and also be progressive, in the sense that richer people spend more on services than poor people -- but ultimately it never happens because most states only tax specifically enumerated services which creates obvious constituencies that fight against the taxes on that service (like the yoga example above)

I was talking to the chamber's lobbyist and he said "well it's a good idea that everyone supports in theory, but it only sounds good until your ox is being gored" and I told him "I want to gore all of your oxes" because if it were up to me there would be no distinction between services and tangible goods at all


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yes, I am actively involved in state and local politics where I live; I went back to school to get a policy degree so that I could learn more about public policy

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well, in the comics, the boys all have super powers too from what I understand

so idk

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makes more sense than weed being illegal, but no

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scar the 1 posted...

I like it some, but I really don't care about the plot. Old school JRPGs never had amazing plots, and this one is no exception.

I still thought Octopath was bad even grading on a curve

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I really enjoyed the watchmen comics, I read them when I was a young teen before anyone I knew had heard of them (my dad's coworker was a nerd and let me borrow them)

the ending was definitely a big part of the appeal to me

the show is good as a standalone project imo but if you care about the watchmen and expect it to be like that it's kind of a let down, especially once dr manhattan is in the picture

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The big disappointment to me was the story and character interactions (or lack thereof). I was expecting it to be more like Live A Live

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