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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 457: Ticket Sales are Experiencing a Super Slow-Down
NBIceman
09/28/18 8:10:15 PM
#368
I imagine the "why" behind Dreamer is that he probably did it for, like, eight dollars.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 457: Ticket Sales are Experiencing a Super Slow-Down
NBIceman
09/28/18 8:05:30 PM
#364
scarletspeed7 posted...
I wanted to bitch about LU sucking.

Well, I'm certainly ALWAYS in favor of that!
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 457: Ticket Sales are Experiencing a Super Slow-Down
NBIceman
09/28/18 8:03:40 PM
#361
I know you're just joking, but I'm actually curious. I don't want to talk about Brie anymore either!
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 457: Ticket Sales are Experiencing a Super Slow-Down
NBIceman
09/28/18 8:02:39 PM
#356
I missed that. What did you want to talk about, Scarlet?
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 457: Ticket Sales are Experiencing a Super Slow-Down
NBIceman
09/28/18 7:48:16 PM
#350
Saw Athena work a TON on the indies since she was primarily based in Texas. It's hard for me to definitively say how good I think she is because her stuff ranged from legitimate greatness to some of the worst matches I've seen in my entire life. She is heavily, heavily dependent on the quality of her opponent in my eyes.

I never really got into Heidi Lovelace. She's one of those wrestlers that everyone has where you recognize they have talent to a varying extent but just don't connect with you. So, again, hard to judge.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 457: Ticket Sales are Experiencing a Super Slow-Down
NBIceman
09/28/18 7:22:15 PM
#345
Lopen posted...
NBIceman posted...
Lopen, you also said something about how my standards are probably just higher and that if I put Nikki under my threshold of "good" I'd have to do the same for 80% of the other main roster women's workers. And I do. The only main roster women I consider actively good are Becky and Asuka. But there's a tier right underneath that one of women I'd consider "fine" (Bayley, Charlotte, Sarah Logan, Sasha with the right opponent, maybe Mickie and Natayla on a good day?), and Nikki doesn't hit that threshold either.


I respect this for the record. I disagree on where you place a lot of them, Sarah Logan in particular being notable is a headscratcher, but yeah. The mindset is fine to me.

Logan is someone I saw wrestle on the indies quite a bit so that's what I'm judging on. It's entirely possible that the quality of opponent there made her look better than she was and she's now been exposed. I never really saw her work against average wrestlers; they were either really great or really bad.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 457: Ticket Sales are Experiencing a Super Slow-Down
NBIceman
09/28/18 7:05:30 PM
#342
I checked out of this discussion yesterday because I stopped caring but since it's still going on I feel compelled to make one more post and then probably never speak of the Bellas again.

My saying that both Brie and Nikki are terrible was not to insinuate that they are equally terrible. Nikki is better than Brie, yeah, but that has nothing to do with Nikki actually being good and everything to do with Brie being especially horrendous. But yes, at least Nikki isn't an active botch machine and hasn't (to my recollection) actually injured anyone. Nikki's just plain bad, Brie is dangerously bad.

Lopen, you also said something about how my standards are probably just higher and that if I put Nikki under my threshold of "good" I'd have to do the same for 80% of the other main roster women's workers. And I do. The only main roster women I consider actively good are Becky and Asuka. But there's a tier right underneath that one of women I'd consider "fine" (Bayley, Charlotte, Sarah Logan, Sasha with the right opponent, maybe Mickie and Natayla on a good day?), and Nikki doesn't hit that threshold either.

Now, yes, to be fair, I do admit that I no longer watch WWE main roster women's wrestling because I don't watch ANY main roster wrestling. So if some of these women have improved in the last two-three years, I wouldn't be able to speak on that. But people were already calling Nikki good when I was still watching, as evidence by the fact that she won the APWT award back then. And she's taken so much time off since then that I find it hard to believe she's magically smoothed out all her considerable rough edges. Historically, wrestlers don't get better through not wrestling. Maybe she's stopped slapping her legs on moves that miss, I guess? That would be a nice step in the right direction.

Anyway, now I'm done. No more Bella discussion for me.
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TopicRaetsel's B8 Music Ranking Topic! [Rankings]
NBIceman
09/27/18 10:42:56 PM
#14
Nice. This'll be interesting for me as well; I don't recognize very many songs outside of what I nominated myself.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 457: Ticket Sales are Experiencing a Super Slow-Down
NBIceman
09/27/18 5:29:01 PM
#200
HashtagSEP posted...
NBIceman posted...
Lopen posted...
You come together in exposing that you can't get over them as being different because they're twins

Like if you're trying to compare the two to Kelly Kelly and Rosa it's very clear you don't actually pay attention to their matches

If they weren't twins they wouldn't even be considered similar wrestlers at all.

Why is it so hard for you to accept that I hate Nikki completely on her own merits? Or lack thereof.


You might, but XIII literally just admitted he doesn't, atleast!

Yeah, I wish I'd waited to say anything until I saw his reasoning...
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 457: Ticket Sales are Experiencing a Super Slow-Down
NBIceman
09/27/18 5:22:58 PM
#192
Lopen posted...
You come together in exposing that you can't get over them as being different because they're twins

Like if you're trying to compare the two to Kelly Kelly and Rosa it's very clear you don't actually pay attention to their matches

If they weren't twins they wouldn't even be considered similar wrestlers at all.

Why is it so hard for you to accept that I hate Nikki completely on her own merits? Or lack thereof.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 457: Ticket Sales are Experiencing a Super Slow-Down
NBIceman
09/27/18 5:17:37 PM
#187
Things like this are why I love this topic series. I feel like me and XIII hardly agree on anything, but we come together in recognizing that BOTH of the Bellas are bad pro wrestlers.

Wrestling is cool.
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TopicRaetsel's B8 Music Ranking Topic! [Nominations]
NBIceman
09/26/18 9:22:34 PM
#123
I'm always equal parts hyped and nervous for music rankings because I really want people to like what I nominate. I probably shouldn't take it so seriously, but I guess I just love music too much!
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 457: Ticket Sales are Experiencing a Super Slow-Down
NBIceman
09/26/18 5:20:48 PM
#139
Yet also refused to clear Daniel Bryan for how long?

Remember that this didn't actually have very much to do with his health.
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TopicWhich of the following VGMC-retired Mega Man music tracks is your favorite?
NBIceman
09/25/18 9:17:06 PM
#10
Title > Wily > Spark > VS
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 457: Ticket Sales are Experiencing a Super Slow-Down
NBIceman
09/25/18 7:13:56 AM
#38
Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/1044455515680468992?s=21

Liv gets KO'd and not only do they not stop the match, she gets dragged by the neck to the corner and then they let her back in to take a suplex!? Is it 1999? #RAW

That can't be right either. Twitter always talks about how WWE is the safest company in the world and they care so much about their workers!
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 457: Ticket Sales are Experiencing a Super Slow-Down
NBIceman
09/24/18 9:50:15 PM
#25
I think she's bad because she did (maybe still does) do things like slapping her leg on strikes that are avoided multiple times.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 457: Ticket Sales are Experiencing a Super Slow-Down
NBIceman
09/24/18 9:47:53 PM
#22
Lopen posted...
Nikki is much better than Brie and has been for a long time

Maybe that's why people think Nikki is actually good. She's an extreme version of "good by comparison" because the comparison is literally a twin.
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 457: Ticket Sales are Experiencing a Super Slow-Down
NBIceman
09/24/18 9:26:21 PM
#15
But the Bellas are good though!!!!!!!
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TopicWhat is the best Tales Of game?
NBIceman
09/24/18 8:45:51 PM
#28
Abyss living up to its reputation by being at the very top or bottom of almost every ranking.
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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Superhero - Day 42
NBIceman
09/24/18 8:29:02 PM
#4
Captain America
Doctor Strange
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TopicFor those who watch eSports, what is your favorite to watch?
NBIceman
09/24/18 8:16:45 PM
#27
Gun to my head, I'd say fighting games.

DOTA 2 has higher highs, I think, but it's harder for me to sit down and commit to watching it outside of the few big majors every year. Fighting games are a much easier watch to me, so they win out on consistency I guess.
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TopicWhat is the best Tales Of game?
NBIceman
09/24/18 8:13:33 PM
#25
I'll spice up my normal ranking by putting them all in tiers.

Abyss Tier
Abyss

Among my all-time favorite games
Berseria
Xillia 2

Among my all-time favorite RPGs
Vesperia
Graces F

Great but haven't left a lasting effect on me
Xillia
Symphonia

Fun but quite flawed
Hearts R
Legendia

Not worth the time
Zestiria
Symphonia 2

I'm planning to get to the remainder of the English releases very soon, hopefully by the end of this year.
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TopicTales of Symphonia
NBIceman
09/24/18 12:13:39 PM
#107
LapisLazuli posted...
Zelos posted...
Ugh

Dual audio please then

Even tho I really like the vesperia dub. Although Estelle alone could keep me from sticking with dub...

I love symphonia's dub too. Everyone's so good

Cant really say that about any other jrpgs personally


I think Berseria has the best dub of them all!

Except...Bienfu...

Kamoana
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TopicTales of Symphonia
NBIceman
09/24/18 7:56:40 AM
#91
Oh, are we ranking now?

Abyss > Berseria > Xillia 2 > Vesperia > Graces F > Xillia > Symphonia > Hearts R > Legendia > Zestiria > Symphonia 2
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TopicTales of Symphonia
NBIceman
09/23/18 11:40:12 PM
#82
xp1337 posted...
NBIceman posted...
I'm gonna make a poll topic for which Tales game has the best opening theme.

oh my god how could i pick

Xillia, Xillia 2, and Berseria all too good. How are Abyss and Vesperia not in my Top 3? Graces f also great. ahhhhhhh

(lmao symphonia)

I know how you feel. If I combine it with the opening video itself, I think X2 wins pretty comfortably for me, but if I'm trying to decide strictly on the song alone I have a pretty tough time.
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TopicTales of Symphonia
NBIceman
09/23/18 11:36:23 PM
#74
LeonhartFour posted...
Symphonia's OST being so great is what makes me mad that the only song from it that has retired in VGMC is Starry Heavens, which is trash

One of these days when I'm really in the mood to cause an all-out word brawl on this board, I'm gonna make a poll topic for which Tales game has the best opening theme.

Don't think I've seen it here before, but I know folks elsewhere on the internet will die on a hill for their favorite.
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TopicTales of Symphonia
NBIceman
09/23/18 11:33:33 PM
#72
xp1337 posted...
MZero11 posted...
So what I gather from this topic is that I should play Symphonia first before the later games make it look bad!

You do probably want to play the earlier ones first if only for the gameplay improvements that came later. Symphonia would be the roughest in that respect. On you reach like... Graces f though it doesn't matter much and it's more different systems rather than improving upon the old.

Symphonia's also a pretty good litmus test for whether you'll like the rest of the series. As you can tell from this topic, there's an EXTREMELY wide range of opinions on how the various entries stack up against each other, but I haven't encountered too many people who actively disliked Symphonia and went on to enjoy other Tales games.
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TopicTales of Symphonia
NBIceman
09/23/18 11:23:24 PM
#60
I legit didn't realize people liked Symphonia's OST that much. The only two songs I can even bring to mind off the top of my head are the world map theme and Final Destination.

I'm gonna be replaying it soon, though, so maybe I'll encounter a few that are just slipping my memory right now.
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TopicTales of Symphonia
NBIceman
09/23/18 11:20:14 PM
#56
OSTs have never been a strength of the series. Abyss is probably the only one where I could actually name more than two or three.
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TopicTales of Symphonia
NBIceman
09/23/18 11:17:24 PM
#51
LeonhartFour posted...
I mean I don't think it's hard to follow, per se, it's just their insistence on having so much made up terminology

So if they switched every use of "fonon" with the word "magic," it'd be fine?

I'm not trying to be deliberately obtuse here. I just see this complaint a lot and I've never understood it at all.
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TopicTales of Symphonia
NBIceman
09/23/18 11:13:31 PM
#41
KamikazePotato posted...
xp1337 posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
Some of the cutscenes in Symphonia were just as awkward back then, too.

what is this ominous post that threatens to engulf us

I take that quote over literally any scene in Abyss involving Phonons

Yeah, how dare an RPG try to worldbuild? Technobabble amirite?
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TopicTales of Symphonia
NBIceman
09/23/18 11:10:17 PM
#34
LeonhartFour posted...
I feel like many of the things people say about Symphonia "not aging well" were awkward back when the game came out, too.

The biggest thing for me is the battle system, which absolutely wasn't awkward when it first came out.
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TopicTales of Symphonia
NBIceman
09/23/18 10:23:38 PM
#4
Like a 7.5 or 8.

Great RPG but it's outdone in every conceivable way by other games in the series, which leads to me not looking back on it quite as fondly.
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TopicB8 NFL Suicide League: Week 3
NBIceman
09/23/18 6:58:09 PM
#61
lol Minnesota sports
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TopicB8 NFL Suicide League: Week 3
NBIceman
09/22/18 2:57:07 PM
#36
Vikings

Chalk pick this week.
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TopicRate That Box Art - Kingdom Hearts III
NBIceman
09/21/18 11:23:28 PM
#9
Yep, that's a KH box art alright. And that's a good thing.

I really love the little creature holding the star lantern. Is that a Heartless design I don't recognize?
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TopicNintendo chooses not to renew its trademark for Custom Robo
NBIceman
09/21/18 8:38:44 PM
#4
I'm confused, did Nintendo choose to renew their trademark for Custom Robo?
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TopicSerebii's reporting that the special new Pokemon in Let's Go may have leaked.
NBIceman
09/21/18 8:07:02 PM
#35
Those of you who weren't convinced that Sun/Moon demonstrated they were out of ideas for Pokemon designs should have no doubt left here.
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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Superhero - Day 41
NBIceman
09/20/18 9:56:08 PM
#29
Captain America
Doctor Strange
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TopicBest Truly Randomly Chosen FF Character
NBIceman
09/20/18 9:05:33 PM
#11
Nice, the right character's winning. Well done, B8.
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TopicThere's currently a reddit thread on the top of /r/TIL about us
NBIceman
09/19/18 10:48:36 PM
#19
Lopen posted...
NowItsAngeTime posted...
I forgot how allergic Board 8 is to checking out reddit and only thinking of the Draven rally and thinking all of reddit is like that


Yeah most Reddits are walls of fan art and memes with 90% of the meaningful content confined to three Megathreads due to OCD moderation teams let's get it right people

The one constant of the internet is that every website hates every other website.
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TopicNobuo Uematsu stops working due to health
NBIceman
09/19/18 10:48:05 PM
#5
KamikazePotato posted...
Okay this one hurts

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TopicThere's currently a reddit thread on the top of /r/TIL about us
NBIceman
09/19/18 9:35:02 PM
#11
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
TIL Reddit has an entire subreddit to things youve learned that day.

Reddit has an entire subreddit devoted to pretty much everything you could think of.
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TopicI want to do a project with doppelgangers, and I'm looking for your favorites
NBIceman
09/17/18 11:35:39 PM
#6
Devdan (Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance) and Danved (Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn)
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 456: Nobody expects the Undertaker!
NBIceman
09/16/18 9:51:14 PM
#300
Jakyl25 posted...
And by hilarious I mean character destroying for Bryan

No no no no no, just wait! Everyone keeps telling me that now that he's re-signed, his push is coming any day now!
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Topic^King of the Mountain^ - Save My Superhero - Day 39
NBIceman
09/16/18 8:51:31 PM
#21
Captain America
Doctor Strange
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TopicB8 NFL Suicide League: Week 2
NBIceman
09/16/18 4:12:59 PM
#61
Hell, I forgot about this.

Broncos
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TopicSmash Bros Ultimate General Discussion: Episode IV: A New Hope
NBIceman
09/16/18 12:56:11 PM
#266
Anagram posted...
I'm not really sure about this just because the spacing would require there to be no Shadow as an echo of Sonic, and I think everyone sees Shadow as a lock.

... They do?
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TopicAll-Purpose Wrestling Topic 456: Nobody expects the Undertaker!
NBIceman
09/14/18 1:52:54 AM
#219
At what point do y'all just agree to disagree?
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Topic~ Save My RPG: Reunion Day. And the winner is... ~
NBIceman
09/13/18 11:20:12 PM
#11
Solid results, really. The only games I think went out WAY too early are KH2, Vesperia, and FF8. And FF13 finishing in the top ten makes me a little nauseous. Other than that, can't really hate on much of anything here.
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