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It's pretty easy to spot a fake service dog. Service dogs are usually extremely well behaved and not pulling on the leash and going crazy trying to find attention.

A lot of "service dog" owners will let people pet their dogs. real, trained service dogs arent supposed to be petted or interacted with.

Path of Exile.

Master Kazuya posted...

Zerocide posted...

There's one thing I always wanted to understand with the Spider Man. Mind you I grow up watching Tobey's Spider Man but have Web Shooters always been a thing? I thought they could just project the web from their wrist or do the WS help with the efficiency?

Nah, he doesn't create web from his body, he synthesizes and engineers the web fluid and web Shooters from the beginning of his release.

Okay, so basically they're just the equivalent of Batarangs? Meaning anyone(Mainly those who don't have spider powers.) can use them if given the training?

It wasn't skill that Miles gained, it was confidence.

Doesn't Spider-Man solely fight using his spidey sense and acrobatic skill? Add to that invisibility and shocking, then Miles would be pretty good for a rookie.

I'm excited for the expansion early next year

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Speaking of theaters, I also hate those inconsiderate jerks who laugh unnecessarily loud and make comments during the movie. ESPECIALLY when those weirdos are by themselves.

ha ha Avengers Infinity War, this lone woman sat next to me. Every 5 seconds she would go "oh my god!" "Are you serious?" "Yes!" "Oh shit!" "She's so dead!"

Like SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! lol

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Crazyman93 posted...

Trickfinger posted...

well what else would you have them do with their child.

Take a fucking train.

Why should they have to so something more time consuming and more expensive to appease you?

Why should they torment their child because they're impatient?

Trickfinger posted...

well what else would you have them do with their child.

Take a fucking train.

The only edge Netflix has is the cycle of Marvel movies

I mean, 3 of the 4 you listed have been on Netflix for years. Although I dont know if they still are.

Baker should win again, f these people who purposely harass people who dont conform with their standards

Isn't that destruction of property or vandalism?

On-topic: Most bicyclists are fuckheads, yes

how slow were you going to the point where he could follow you for half a mile. that's a long school zone!

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artowen74 posted...

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The political left is basically just trying to brand everything they disagree with as some sort of horrible atrocity. The endgame isn't equality, it's the inability to be conservative without repercussions.

Or we just want people to be treated fairly and equally over things they can't change.

Fairly, yes, but "things they can't change," no; they literally had extensive surgery to change.

They were always the sex they'd now present as though.

Some surgery to match their appearance to that irrelevant. Plenty of others undergo surgeries as well, yet they aren't discriminated against.

And as others said, many don't even transition.

Well transvestites play dress up, transgenders undergo medical procedures; has society merged the two factions into one?

I frown upon women who buy boobies unless it's because of a mastectomy. Also frown on men who get pec implants and any cosmetic surgery or surgeries that aren't medically necessary for the most part.

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HenryAllbright posted...

You don't even know anything about me.

I've seen enough about you that the term sticks just fine.

That says a lot about you. It tells me you are the type of person looking for reasons to hate others. That it's gratifying for you to attach negative labels to people and attack them personally since you refuse to change your attitude when faced with new information that contradicts your original rationale.

Yep; so many times those SJWs that cry out 'persecution,' are the ones that are spewing forth the true hate.

Modern science doesn't support gender bullshit at all.

That says a lot about you.

You don't even know anything about me.

OctilIery posted...

artowen74 posted...

Big difference between true gender and gender identity

Nope. They are the same thing.

Now I truly feel bad for you; sorta like I used to feel bad for those kids in school that would add 2+2 and repeatedly come up with 9. All of the biased SJW beliefs in the world can/do not change how wrong you are. But hey you've clearly decided to stand by your views no matter how unintelligent they are, and for that, we're done here. Good day sir/madam/gender fluid person.

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artowen74 posted...

Big difference between true gender and gender identity

Nope. They are the same thing.

LOL

I'd assume you know gender isn't biological, but given your earlier posts I wouldn't put anything past you.

gender
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noun
1.
the state of being male or female
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

First off, your application of the word harm is terrible here.

The political left is basically just trying to brand everything they disagree with as some sort of horrible atrocity. The endgame isn't equality, it's the inability to be conservative without repercussions.

Well, there you have it folks....he said "nope" like 50 times. That means he wins the debate. I'm packing up my things and going home now.

You're a literal bigot arguing for the right to discriminate with no real argument and no foot to stand on. In what world should I ever treat you like anything more than the joke you are?

OctilIery posted...

artowen74 posted...

Big difference between true gender and gender identity

Nope. They are the same thing.

LOL

Why did you feel the need to create a separate topic about it?

If the baker isn't getting harmed by making the cake, then the person asking for the cake isn't getting harmed by not having it made. You can't say "it's just a cake" out of one side of your mouth while saying "this cake is so important that it can literally hurt people" out of the other.

The law is what's in question here

Big difference between true gender and gender identity

People know not to argue on gamefaqs, yet continue to argue on gamefaqs.

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This, if he made them the cake and the whole time spewed his bigotry at them, there wouldn't be a problem

I'm fairly certain that would still be a problem

And remember, the law is what's in question here hence why it's going to court. So anyone who uses the law as rationale for their argument (applies to both sides) isn't making a meaningful argument.

OctilIery posted...

when you run a business, you have to offer the service equally to everyone.

Under federal anti-discrimination laws, businesses can refuse service to any person for any reason, unless the business is discriminating against a protected class. At the national level, protected classes include: Race or color.

Where is the line between gender and species?

Why should the baker have to make the cake?

Why is one person more important than another?

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Why do liberals feel the need to force their believes upon the baker?

This all started because someone tried to buy a cake from someone who makes cakes

Not the point. People call foul for the baker "forcing his beliefs" when that's exactly what these crazies are trying to do to him when they could easily go to the next cake shop and ignore the bigot.

The only thing they're trying to force him to do is comply with the law. They aren't trying to change his religious beliefs.

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artowen74 posted...

Mr_Karate_II posted...

Maybe he shouldn't have stupid religious beliefs?

Like beliefs that fuel one getting surgery to become something they're really not?

And where is that happening?

Nice try, we both know damn well that it happens everyday, I also know where you're trying to go with this. If one feels that they are a cat and not a human, getting whiskers, pointy ears, a tail, stripes, slitted pupils, and pointy teeth grafted onto their body does NOT make them a cat. And on top of that they get pissed when folks address them as sir or madam instead of kitty kitty or puss post surgery.

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Paragon21XX posted...

This topic is such a great example of the Ctrl-Left's totalitarianism.

"You can't discriminate" isn't totalitarianism.

"Instead of respecting your beliefs, I'm going to make sure you are hit over and over again with fines until you are either our ideological puppet or your life is permanently ruined" is totalitarian.

Except that isn't what happens here. They respect their beliefs. It's their actions that are the problem.

Nope.

I'm sorry. You're right. I was wrong. I will leave now and go on a soul-searching trip :)

Your apology is accepted.

So I googled to make sure, but I needn't have bothered because I was right about you being full of shit just based on your name.

Actually yes they do. You can refuse to serve someone even if theyre in a protected group, but the refusal cant be arbitrary and you cant apply it to just one group of people.

They beat this case once and the same business will beat it again.

Is there only one cake shop in Colorado? Just go somewhere else, it's not hard.

OctilIery posted...

Keep trying kid. Punishing them for illegal actions isn't bigotry :)

I like how I post definitions and make well-detailed arguments, and all you can keep saying over and over is "nope". What's your deal, man? Everything okay? You literally haven't made any arguments. It's like you're just repeating stuff you hear other people say.

The cake bigot will do his thing.

If people want to teach him a lesson, break him with pressure. Have black people ask for happy Kwanzaa cakes. Happy wakanda day cakes with the face of tchallah. Happy eid mubarak cakes. A cake with a sombrero drawing saying happy 5 de Mayo, a cake saying happy Mexican Independence Day Pedro, etc . Happy visa day, Vishnu cakes, you name it.

Make this guys bakery the official intermarriage cake shop, where cakes that say happy marriage are requested and the picture of a black man and a white woman are to be inserted on the cake.

At some point he will start refusing to sell cakes to interracial couples, or minorities or foreign holiday cakes, and it will be beautiful. He will win all the court cases maybe simply because were in the MAGA era, but he will be sunk in so many lawsuits he will live pissed off lol

OctilIery posted...

Paragon21XX posted...

OctilIery posted...

Paragon21XX posted...

This topic is such a great example of the Ctrl-Left's totalitarianism.

"You can't discriminate" isn't totalitarianism.

"Instead of respecting your beliefs, I'm going to make sure you are hit over and over again with fines until you are either our ideological puppet or your life is permanently ruined" is totalitarian.

Except that isn't what happens here. They respect their beliefs. It's their actions that are the problem.

Nope.

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HenryAllbright posted...

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SchoolForAnts posted...

HenryAllbright posted...

And to those who are calling this baker a bigot, I really think you should reconsider your tactic of name calling and perhaps look at yourselves. We are *all* bigots to some degree. If you don't think you are, then you aren't looking hard enough at yourself or you don't understand the definition of the word.

The difference is there are degrees of bigotry.

I dont believe gay or trans people deserve to live in this planet therefore I cant bake a cake for them is pretty high up there.

Pushing for the government to force an individual to do something that adheres to your opinion is a higher form of bigotry than the individual refusing to do the thing that was asked of him in the first place. The application of force makes it higher order.

No.

Yes it is. Using force is more aggressive. How can you disagree with that? Or do you just not understand the definition of bigotry?

This isn't discriminating against anyone, so it isn't bigotry. It's saying you can't discriminate against people. Sorry kid.

Bigotry isn't discrimination. Bigotry is "intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself". If your intolerance leads to you pushing to use force to make people adhere to your opinions, then your level of bigotry is higher.

And yes, it is discriminating. It's discrimination against this baker for choosing to be different.

My guess is that you and others don't like the application of these words being used this way because those are supposed to be your weapons. Well I say tough shit that's just the way life works.

Look, overall, I'd prefer to live in a society where people got along and did stuff for each other. The general attitude I see from people opposing this baker, the person taking him to court, the name-calling, etc....that's not the way to make progress. That's just being an asshole. I want my society to built on a solid foundation, not something that's held together by the threat of violence from the state.