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TopicLiberals: 'They're a private business it's OK if they violate freedom of speech'
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 11:25:53 PM
#151
KamenRiderBlade posted...
Funbazooka posted...
I didn't say it was publicly owned. Public utilities are publicly owned. YouTube is not a public utility, of course not.

But by definition, yes, Google is a public company. It's a minor point.
Is YouTube the modern day equivalent of a "Public Forum in ye olde Town Square" or is it a News / Media Organization that can "Editorialize" with the right to censor what comes out of it?

It can only choose to be one, or the other.

Not both.

I think the problem isn't that they aren't legally allowed to censor conservatives, it's that they refuse to follow their own rules when ruling about left-leaning channels.
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TopicMcDonald's vs Wendy's
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 11:23:22 PM
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What heathen would choose McDonalds over Wendy's
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TopicLiberals fight for their rights. Conservatives fight against their rights.
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 11:19:44 PM
#17
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Alphamon posted...
mal fet bullshitting everyone again

https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-poll-43-of-republicans-want-to-give-trump-the-power-to-shut-down-media


Ib4 "Literally the daily beast"

So a minority of Republicans want to censor the media, while a majority of Democrats want to censor everyone.

Thank you for proving my point for me.
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Topicis it safe to call the gop a white nationalist party now?
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 11:17:56 PM
#51
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Because in their minds, a foreign, Jewish nation is more beneficial to their own, white nation than a foreign, Muslim nation, which is what Israel could potentially become if left to its own devices and to fend for itself. To the white nationalist American, spending x number of resources to keep Israel stable is worth it in an effort to prevent spending <much more than x> in any conflict that is like to arise if the US abandons Israel and emboldens their enemies to accelerate their aggression in an effort to take over. It's making an investment in "the devil you know" due to apprehension over the ideas of "the devils you don't know."

Right because protecting Israel is totally not creating more animosity towards the US from the middle east than there would be otherwise, lmfao
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Topicis it safe to call the gop a white nationalist party now?
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 11:16:32 PM
#50
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Because global politics are more complicated than I like, money go here.

So your answer to why a white nationalist party would do something patently un-white-nationalist is "it's complicated, ok??"

Yep, you're done here.

Your current argument is that global politics arent complicated. Youre done.

Saying "it's complicated" isn't an answer to my question.
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TopicPhotos surface of James Gunn at pedophilia themed party
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 11:15:46 PM
#84
Vertania posted...
Why in the fuck would anyone choose that as a party theme?

What, it's just a kink bro! Nothing to see here!
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TopicPhotos surface of James Gunn at pedophilia themed party
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 10:12:34 PM
#74
gp1829 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Just wow @ the lengths some people will go to keep defending this guy

Look, people thought Jimmy Savile was a great guy too but even he didn't say shit like how he wanted to first babies.


So his jokes are off limits but you defend Milo all the time.

Yeah, fisting infants is such a funny "" joke""

Especially when it has no punchline
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TopicOcasio-Cortez complains that conservatives won't engage with her, then
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 10:10:24 PM
#392
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
That wasn't why she was comparing it to catcalling. It's all of the badgering that came afterwards.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
So Ted Cruz was correct in likening Cenk to a catcaller since Cenk afterward insisted that he respond to his offer seriously?

Yes, Cenk was acting like a right-winged nut in order to demonstrate how crazy ridiculous they are.

Yeah, Cenk offered to debate a random conservative politician unrelated to the AOC/Ben thing in order to prove Ben was the crazy one. Even though AOC was the one who claimed conservatives were afraid of her and Cruz said nothing remotely like that.

dot dot dot
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TopicOcasio-Cortez complains that conservatives won't engage with her, then
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 10:05:00 PM
#389
Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
That wasn't why she was comparing it to catcalling. It's all of the badgering that came afterwards.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
So Ted Cruz was correct in likening Cenk to a catcaller since Cenk afterward insisted that he respond to his offer seriously?

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TopicPhotos surface of James Gunn at pedophilia themed party
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 10:04:16 PM
#70
Just wow @ the lengths some people will go to keep defending this guy

Look, people thought Jimmy Savile was a great guy too but even he didn't say shit like how he wanted to first babies.
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Topicis it safe to call the gop a white nationalist party now?
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 10:00:26 PM
#44
King_Hellebuyck posted...
Because global politics are more complicated than I like, money go here.

So your answer to why a white nationalist party would do something patently un-white-nationalist is "it's complicated, ok??"

Yep, you're done here.
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TopicWhat color is this?
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 9:58:23 PM
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I don't know what the precise color is but the wood looks like steamed walnut
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Topicis it safe to call the gop a white nationalist party now?
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 9:53:56 PM
#42
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Why does the "white nationalist party" so vehemently defend the sovereignty of Israel

Do any of you actually know what white nationalists are

Israel is a separate nation.

I'll take that as a "no" then.

That just shows you have no idea. They're not white globalists.

Why would nationalists who hate jews want to help a different nation comprised almost entirely of jews


Israel is a nation. Nationalism is nationalism. What other people would make up the nation of Israel but Israeli Jews? Palestinian Muslims? Would white nationalists support them in this day and age?

Nationalists care about their own nation first and foremost. That's kind of the point of nationalism.

So, again, why would a white nationalist want to spend its own nation's resources to help a foreign, Jewish, nation?
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TopicOcasio-Cortez complains that conservatives won't engage with her, then
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 9:50:49 PM
#387
FrisbeeDude posted...
are politicians obligated to debate people who put up money for it?

No, but saying you're like a victim of catcalling when someone asks for a debate is beyond dumb and hilarious.
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TopicWhy did the guy who invent english made it so hard for it to be gender neutral?
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 9:47:40 PM
#14
Because humans are a sexually dimorphic species and no amount of shrill protesting will change that.
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TopicOcasio-Cortez complains that conservatives won't engage with her, then
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 9:08:04 PM
#385
The Deadpool posted...
It was unnecessary for Ben to ask for a debate. Unnecessary for his employee to keep bothering her about it. And unnecessary for her to respond.

She used a simile to compare his attitude to that of a catcaller because they both demand attention they are not owed.

So Ted Cruz was correct in likening Cenk to a catcaller since Cenk afterward insisted that he respond to his offer seriously?
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TopicLiberals fight for their rights. Conservatives fight against their rights.
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 9:06:30 PM
#11
J E S U S posted...
As much as I am not for offensive speech it does need to be protected. Because who gets to determine what is offensive?

Right now that would ultimately be president Trump, which makes it especially odd that the left wants the state to decide what they are and are not allowed to say...
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TopicLiberals fight for their rights. Conservatives fight against their rights.
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 8:54:19 PM
#7
Webmaster4531 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Which is the side that wants to enforce speech codes

Republicans.

Wrrrrrong, a majority of Democrats support banning "offensive" speech while a huge majority of Republicans don't.

https://www.cato.org/survey-reports/state-free-speech-tolerance-america#3
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TopicLiberals fight for their rights. Conservatives fight against their rights.
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 8:48:43 PM
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Which is the side that wants to enforce speech codes
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TopicOcasio-Cortez complains that conservatives won't engage with her, then
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 8:47:03 PM
#381
_OujiDoza_ posted...
billcom6 posted...
Ben Shapiro has to pay people to talk to him lol.

Pay $10,000 to end a socialist's political career? Worth it.
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TopicOcasio-Cortez complains that conservatives won't engage with her, then
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 8:43:44 PM
#379
The Deadpool posted...
No she said that Ben is not owed her attention, like a cat caller is not owed her attention.

"And just like catcalling, they feel entitled to one."

"They make unsolicited offers, like a catcaller, and then they feel entitled to a response, also like a catcaller! But I'm not calling anyone a catcaller *winkyface* I'm just throwing in this unnecessary analogy when I could have just said I'm not required to respond to everyone who @'s me for shits and giggles! Totally not an effort to play the victim again!"
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Topicis it safe to call the gop a white nationalist party now?
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 8:37:44 PM
#40
Webmaster4531 posted...
FaultyGourry posted...
Boy, ya'll really haven't learned a god damn thing. >_>

I know right? Dems constantly winning special elections hasn't taught them anything.

Except all those ones that they lost.
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TopicOcasio-Cortez complains that conservatives won't engage with her, then
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 8:32:09 PM
#377
The Deadpool posted...
Its not an analogy. Its a simile.

And her response wasnt to Ben Shapiro asking for a debate. It was to his employees repeatedly insisting that she MUST respond to his request to a debate.

She doesnt. She doesnt owe him a response. She doesnt owe him attention. No one does.

No one ever said she did XD Ben didn't say she had to, Seevadra didn't say she had to.... She responded to Seevadra making a statement of fact, that she refused to respond to Ben, and said what Ben was doing was like catcalling because he had the nerve to make her an offer over Twitter.

As if she is this higher class of person of whom you may not speak unless spoken to.
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Topicis it safe to call the gop a white nationalist party now?
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 8:22:24 PM
#32
CrimsonRage posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Why does the "white nationalist party" so vehemently defend the sovereignty of Israel

Do any of you actually know what white nationalists are

Israel is a separate nation.

I'll take that as a "no" then.


i like how you ignored antifar's explanation, only responding to someone you think you can get a "gotcha" out of.

you always do this and it's transparent.

His explanation was exactly as senseless

A white nationalist wouldn't use its own resources to ensure the survival of another nation, much less one that isn't white.
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TopicDescendants of Hitler and Stalin
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 11:33:16 AM
#18
slimfizzle2 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
So are we all gonna glaze over the Stalin spawn then

What's the Russian equivalent to trailer trash?

Vodka vagrants
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Topicis it safe to call the gop a white nationalist party now?
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 11:31:53 AM
#21
Webmaster4531 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Webmaster4531 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Why does the "white nationalist party" so vehemently defend the sovereignty of Israel

Do any of you actually know what white nationalists are

Israel is a separate nation.

I'll take that as a "no" then.

That just shows you have no idea. They're not white globalists.

Why would nationalists who hate jews want to help a different nation comprised almost entirely of jews
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TopicDescendants of Hitler and Stalin
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 11:29:25 AM
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So are we all gonna glaze over the Stalin spawn then
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Topicis it safe to call the gop a white nationalist party now?
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 11:26:52 AM
#15
Webmaster4531 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Why does the "white nationalist party" so vehemently defend the sovereignty of Israel

Do any of you actually know what white nationalists are

Israel is a separate nation.

I'll take that as a "no" then.
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Topicis it safe to call the gop a white nationalist party now?
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 11:22:00 AM
#11
Why does the "white nationalist party" so vehemently defend the sovereignty of Israel

Do any of you actually know what white nationalists are
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TopicOcasio-Cortez complains that conservatives won't engage with her, then
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 11:18:20 AM
#361
Antifar posted...
https://mobile.twitter.com/mikefossey/status/592169335667486720

Step 1: Make a baseless claim that conservatives are afraid of your ideas
Step 2: Get called out by a conservative willing to tackle your ideas head-on
Step 3: ????
Step 4: SEXISM!!!!
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TopicApparently Craft Beer is so white they had to make a Black Beer festival
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 11:15:36 AM
#106
VipaGTS posted...
imagine being upset about the racial demographics of beer drinkers lmao.

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TopicOcasio-Cortez complains that conservatives won't engage with her, then
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 11:10:15 AM
#359
CyricZ posted...
Vertania posted...
It's not abou that, it's about her using that bullshit "catcalling" excuse to make herself look like a victim of sexism/harassment.

Mom, what's an "analogy"?

Yeah, what is a shit analogy like the one Cortez used

Here's a more accurate analogy to their exchange:

Cortez: Man, I wish a guy would man up and ask me out.

Guy: Hello miss, how are you this evening?

Cortez: Umm?? Excuse me?? How dare you catcall me, you pig??
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TopicOcasio-Cortez complains that conservatives won't engage with her, then
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 11:06:03 AM
#358
iPhone_7 posted...
So the double standard is on her for wanting to debate her opponent running for the same seat, while not bothering to debate a talk show host who admittedly doesnt want genuine conversation & debate but instead want to own teh libz

What the hell are you on about

All Ben said in regards to debates is that the point of them is to convince individuals in the audience that you're right, not necessarily the person you're debating
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TopicOcasio-Cortez complains that conservatives won't engage with her, then
Sephiroth1288
08/11/18 9:49:57 AM
#337
gamepimp12 posted...
Late but this is the main reason she wont debate him.

He doesnt have genuine intentions behind the debate

What the hell is this even supposed to mean, is Ben not supposed to go into a debate trying to win?

Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Once the debate actually starts, give only mathematician-style, robotic responses to everything, or simply deflect in ways that make little sense. Basically troll them with completely generalized/non- responses, sort of Betsy Devos-style, and make it real obvious (this is the crucial part, and some cheekiness will probably be required) that you're there to collect their money and nothing more. No point is ever addressed and no point is ever made.

Oh yeah, that will totally not make Cortez look like an idiot. Rather than unironically say nonsensical things that people will ridicule her for, instead intentionally say nonsensical things that people will ridicule her for.

You have a future as a DNC campaign manager for sure.

tehzeldafanboy posted...
Hmmm, I wonder why you're so strict about phrasing and quoting people exactly when it comes to your guys but so flexible when it comes to her...

"She didn't say Ben was catcalling her, he said that what he did was like catcalling her! Completely different!"
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Sephiroth1288
08/10/18 10:28:42 PM
#78
hockeybub89 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Antifar posted...
I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise?

Literally nothing you posted refutes how the Nazi party had de facto control over "private" German companies.

And that's enough "but Nazis" deflection out of you as well for this topic.

I heard socialism can't work. Why was Nazi Germany's economy thriving under the Third Reich?

Same reason the USSR started off strong. It's great until you run out of other people's money and the gulag labor starts slipping.

Good that you mentioned the USSR. Now there's a piece of shit far-left group. Why do you need to push the alt-history when the Soviets give you all the ammo you need? Hell, Stalin killed even more people than Hitler.

This isn't a tit-for-tat game, it's not about getting ammo, I'm just calling it like I see it.
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08/10/18 10:15:27 PM
#68
hockeybub89 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Antifar posted...
I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise?

Literally nothing you posted refutes how the Nazi party had de facto control over "private" German companies.

And that's enough "but Nazis" deflection out of you as well for this topic.

I heard socialism can't work. Why was Nazi Germany's economy thriving under the Third Reich?

Same reason the USSR started off strong. It's great until you run out of other people's money and the gulag labor starts slipping.
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08/10/18 10:08:34 PM
#59
Antifar posted...
I've supplied sources and links to back up my argument. Are you going to repeat yourself, or provide research to argue otherwise?

Literally nothing you posted refutes how the Nazi party had de facto control over "private" German companies.

And that's enough "but Nazis" deflection out of you as well for this topic.
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08/10/18 9:45:46 PM
#48
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https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2008/12/nazi-privatizat.html
The Great Depression spurred State ownership in Western capitalist countries. Germany was no exception; the last governments of the Weimar Republic took over firms in diverse sectors. Later, the Nazi regime transferred public ownership and public services to the private sector. In doing so, they went against the mainstream trends in the Western capitalist countries, none of which systematically reprivatized firms during the 1930s. Privatization in Nazi Germany was also unique in transferring to private hands the delivery of public services previously provided by government


https://www.scribd.com/document/157799565/Privatizations-in-Nazi-Germany

https://daily.jstor.org/the-roots-of-privatization/
Privatization was coined in English descriptions of the German experience in the mid-1930s. In the early twentieth century, many European economies featured state ownership of vital sectors. Reprivatisierung, or re-privatization, marked the Nazi regimes efforts to de-nationalize sectors of the German economy. As Bel notes, German privatization of the 1930s was intended to benefit the wealthiest sectors and enhance the economic position and political support of the elite.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
companies in Nazi Germany were private in name only because the state still controlled prices, wages, and could dictate to them what to produce.

What's the economic ideology that involves state control of the means of production called again?

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08/10/18 9:35:59 PM
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Antifar posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
The word "private" as opposed to "public" ownership was used loooooooong before fascism existed. Come on now.

But privatization, the making private of public services, was something that hadn't really been seen before.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
companies in Nazi Germany were private in name only because the state still controlled prices, wages, and could dictate to them what to produce.

What's the economic ideology that involves state control of the means of production called again?

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TopicBatista Says He'll Quit Guardians If James Gunn's Script Isn't Use
Sephiroth1288
08/10/18 9:33:22 PM
#121
Bad_Mojo posted...
^ There shouldnt be any controversy. People need to stop being offended by outrages jokes.

That ship sailed long ago.
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08/10/18 9:28:47 PM
#34
gp1829 posted...
I meant "owning" it was a typo. His silence when the right is doing terrible things is what I am talking about so i guess that needs spelled out as well.

Ok, that's enough "BUT NAZIS" deflection out of you for this topic.
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08/10/18 9:27:30 PM
#33
Antifar posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
The nazis who were part of the third reich, as opposed to modern day neo-nazis, absolutely had policies that more resemble the modern day left than the modern day right, yes

Nah.
https://mobile.twitter.com/billosophizing/status/898248950263709697
The term privatization first came into common use to describe fascist economic policy

The word "private" as opposed to "public" ownership was used loooooooong before fascism existed. Come on now.

Also that guy is full of shit, companies in Nazi Germany were private in name only because the state still controlled prices, wages, and could dictate to them what to produce.

What's the economic ideology that involves state control of the means of production called again?
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08/10/18 9:21:42 PM
#29
gp1829 posted...
I didn't say topics I said Mal topics.

And I did make one about it.
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TopicI've never met anyone who has a hyphen in their last name who isn't a communist
Sephiroth1288
08/10/18 9:04:31 PM
#5
jumi posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
Huckabee-Sanders


He's probably never met her.

Good point
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08/10/18 9:03:48 PM
#23
gp1829 posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
gp1829 posted...
When it happened obviously.

I did, actually. I made a long topic about it and why Nazi ideology is cancerous and nonsensical.


And then tried to claim Nazis are left wing.

The nazis who were part of the third reich, as opposed to modern day neo-nazis, absolutely had policies that more resemble the modern day left than the modern day right, yes.
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TopicAntifa bravely smash Berkeley city vehicle windows, set them on fire. *video*
Sephiroth1288
08/10/18 9:00:58 PM
#20
gp1829 posted...
When it happened obviously.

I did, actually. I made a long topic about it and why Nazi ideology is cancerous and nonsensical.
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TopicI've never met anyone who has a hyphen in their last name who isn't a communist
Sephiroth1288
08/10/18 8:58:01 PM
#2
Huckabee-Sanders
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TopicWas college your best time in life?
Sephiroth1288
08/10/18 8:56:31 PM
#35
College was fun but nah
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TopicAntifa bravely smash Berkeley city vehicle windows, set them on fire. *video*
Sephiroth1288
08/10/18 8:53:50 PM
#17
gp1829 posted...
I don't recall Mal making any topics about Alt righters running people down in cars. Do you literally spend all your time looking for videos and things to try to paint the left in a negative light? You should probably get a life.

Why would I bring up an event that happened a year ago rather than something that happened a couple days ago, and seems to happen every few weeks
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TopicLow Tier God slaps your girls ass. What do you do?
Sephiroth1288
08/10/18 8:43:42 PM
#8
I show him a Boogie video
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