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I once served on a grand jury that dealt with multiple CP cases. Very unpleasant.
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Polycosm posted...

it's a mistake to go full-on anti-science and deny the validity of work such as Murray's The Bell Curve.

The Bell Curve is full of bad science.
http://www.slate.com/articles/briefing/articles/1997/01/the_bell_curve_flattened.html

it wasn't until a full year or more after The Bell Curve was published that the leading experts on its subject had a chance to go through the underlying data with care. Therefore, as time went on, the knowledgeability of the Bell Curve discussion grew, but the attention paid to that discussion inevitably shrank.

The debate on publication day was conducted in the mass media by people with no independent ability to assess the book. Over the next few months, intellectuals took some pretty good shots at it in smaller publications like the New Republic and the New York Review of Books. It wasn't until late 1995 that the most damaging criticism of The Bell Curve began to appear, in tiny academic journals. What follows is a brief summary of that last body of work. The Bell Curve, it turns out, is full of mistakes ranging from sloppy reasoning to mis-citations of sources to outright mathematical errors. Unsurprisingly, all the mistakes are in the direction of supporting the authors' thesis.

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Ah shit, seeing Salah go off like that sucks
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dib153 posted...

Both led zeppelin AND lynyrd skynyrd are better bands from the same era

Not saying van Halen is ass or anything, but literally bottom of the list

Zeppelin is not American. I'll allow Skynyrd, who are definitely near the top of the list.
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It is interesting to compare this to the "animals" comments. We were told that of course Trump was referring specifically to MS-13 members, but here he seems to be conflating laws about immigration as a whole with MS-13.


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Like 5 minutes from now. It's on Fox in the US
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let's talk
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Seems like a willful misinterpretation of their comments and actions imo
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Thrillwell posted...

TC, post a track or 2 that you really dig.

Don't mind if I do


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Thrillwell posted...

Also, VH is all about ROTH and whoever disagrees needs Jesus.

The maddest I've ever gotten in an argument on CE is when someone said Hagar was better
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shockthemonkey posted...

Van Halen is fucking stupid

Wrong
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Just venturing a guess:
35% liberal
25% left
15% alt-right
15% "both sides"
10% conservative
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imo
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Bumpo
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Blue_Inigo posted...

I dont understand the conservatives' need to be anti science and anti intelligence

It's because Democrats are pro-science and pro-intelligence.

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cjsdowg posted...

Churchill wasn't a good person by any accounts. He is like Rudy Giuliani; the situation him found himself in made the otherwise world think he was greater then what he really was.

This is a shockingly good comparison
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Blue_Inigo posted...

I dont understand the conservatives' need to be anti science and anti intelligence

The science in this case poses a direct threat to the fossil fuel industry's bottom line.
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https://apnews.com/amp/64cd37b0503440c0b92e6ca075f87dd4?__twitter_impression=true

Newly released emails show senior Environmental Protection Agency officials working closely with a conservative group that dismisses climate change to rally like-minded people for public hearings on science and global warming, counter negative news coverage and tout Administrator Scott Pruitt's stewardship of the agency.

John Konkus, EPA's deputy associate administrator for public affairs, repeatedly reached out to senior staffers at the Heartland Institute, according to the emails.

"If you send a list, we will make sure an invitation is sent," Konkus wrote to then-Heartland president Joseph Bast in May 2017, seeking suggestions on scientists and economists the EPA could invite to an annual EPA public hearing on the agency's science standards.

Follow-up emails show Konkus and the Heartland Institute mustering scores of potential invitees known for rejecting scientific warnings of man-made climate-change, including from groups like Plants Need CO2, The Right Climate Stuff, and Junk Science.

The emails underscore how Pruitt and senior agency officials have sought to surround themselves with people who share their vision of curbing environmental regulation and enforcement, leading to complaints from environmentalists that he is ignoring the conclusions of the majority of scientists in and out of his agency especially when it comes to climate-changing carbon emissions.

They were obtained by the Environmental Defense Fund and the Southern Environmental Law Center, which sued to enforce a Freedom of Information request and provided them to The Associated Press.

The EPA maintains close working relationships with a broad range of public and private groups, and Heartland is just one of many the agency engages with "to ensure the public is informed," said EPA spokesman Lincoln Ferguson.

"It demonstrates the agency's dedication to advancing President Trump's agenda of environmental stewardship and regulatory certainty," he said.

The public hearing referred to in the May 2017 email ultimately was canceled when the EPA official who runs it fell ill, the EPA said.

But Bast contended in an email sent to EPA staffers and others that the official called off the hearing after learning that climate-change "skeptics planned to attend."

The Heartland Institute calls itself a leading free-market think-tank. It rejects decades of science saying fossil-fuel emissions are altering the climate and says on its website that curbing use of petroleum and coal to fight climate change would "squander one of America's greatest comparative advantages among the world's nations."

"Of course The Heartland Institute has been working with EPA on policy and personnel decisions," Tim Huelskamp, a former Kansas Republican congressman who now leads the group, said in a statement to the AP.

"They recognized us as the pre-eminent organization opposing the radical climate alarmism agenda and instead promoting sound science and policy," Huelskamp wrote.

He said Heartland would continue to help Pruitt and his staff.
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Konkus was a Republican political consultant when Pruitt named him to the agency. His duties include reviewing awards of hundreds of millions of dollars in federal grants. The Washington Post reported in September that Konkus had been scrutinizing grant applications for mentions of climate change, which he reportedly calls "the double C-word."

Emails show he and former EPA spokeswoman, Liz Bowman, repeatedly reached out to Heartland to talk over critical coverage by the Post.

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Doom_Art posted...

The Matrix is like one of my top five favorite movies so seeing a bunch of MRAs and shit using the redpill terminology is weird

Also it's a movie by trans directors, and knowing that, the themes of it are...a little different.
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Harry Kane never starved Indians
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Is a lesson Peter King, R-NY hasn't learned
https://twitter.com/RepPeteKing/status/1000371463705235456
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Which Great Gatsby?
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masticatingman posted...

And tell USC fans they dont have a right to be competitive. See how that goes.

USC is a private school; it wouldn't be impacted here.
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A couple things worth noting here:
The bill only specifies "non-faculty positions." Coaches are certainly the highest paid of these, but I don't know how many other people this bill might impact. Yahoo sports here is obviously focused mainly on the coaches; is that who lawmakers are targeting?

UCLA's football coach already makes a base salary of just $300k; the remainder of his pay is in bonuses and something called a "talent fee." So I imagine the boosters and athletic departments might find a workaround there.
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Give that extra money to the players

Also, Cal isn't exactly a powerhouse in either major sport these days anyways. They're paying Sonny Dykes [that's his name] $2.65 million to finish 11th in the Pac-12.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Antifar posted...

Ivanka Trump's maternity leave policy would have required women to dip into their social security to pay for it.

Are you sure you're not thinking of unemployment insurance?

No, I meant what I said
https://reason.com/archives/2018/03/08/ivanka-and-conservatives-want-to-raid-so
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Wait is criticism of games for their gender politics good now?
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creativerealms posted...

I figured the republicans of a blue state would be more reasonable then that.

You shouldn't have
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Whatever this vid is, can it be typed out?
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AsucaHayashi posted...

IslamMD posted...

has been released after posting bail,

"if it were the other way around..."

Harvey Weinstein was released after posting bail
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https://twitter.com/allinwithchris/status/1000175144625758208
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It's Los Angeles
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Not many Trump things get a double take from me these days, but this did
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Kazi1212 posted...

So what, were supposed to lock up Ivanka now? Shes too hot for prison man

I'm thinking of the Arrested Development episode where Lindsay tries to woo inmates
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https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/sesta-fosta-forces-sex-trafficking-victims-streets-dark-web-w520720

Senate Bill 1693, commonly referred to as SESTA/FOSTA, is a new federal law aimed at curbing sex trafficking by holding online platforms accountable for the content their users post. And since the legal definition of sex trafficking is consistently conflated with consensual adult sex work, several websites that advertised in-person adult entertainment services have shut down, or began blocking access from the United States.

But instead of helping reduce exploitation, say sex trafficking survivors and advocates, taking away their ability to unse the Internet has actually increased the risks facing their community, and crippled efforts for harm reduction. Moreover, they say the law does not address issues that truly contribute to trafficking: homelessness, poverty and a broken foster care system. Instead, SESTA/FOSTA drastically limits the tools available to those who survive in the sex trade, pushing workers further underground, into the streets and the dark web, where they are easier targets for those who aim to exploit the vulnerable.

"This was unlike anything we'd ever seen," says Meg Munoz, a sex-trafficking survivor and founder of the OC Umbrella Collective, an organization that serves sex workers and those being domestically trafficked in Southern California. "The immediate impact was swift and, honestly, terrifying. We watched people literally walk back to their pimps knowing they had lost any bit of autonomy they had. We watched people wind up homeless overnight. We watched members of our community disappear."

SESTA/FOSTA was signed into law just days after the FBI seized Backpage, one of the largest and most affordable online platforms available for sex workers to advertise and screen clients. Platforms such as Backpage, and the dozens of similar sites that shuttered in response to the new law were also an important tool for those who serve victims of trafficking.

"Every client I have ever worked with has had ads associated with online websites, the majority being Backpage," says Jamie Walton, a survivor of childhood sex trafficking and founder of the Wayne Foundation, an organization in South Florida that provides direct services to young people victimized by exploitation. "Those ads are forms of evidence. Those ads are ways that we were able to find children who were missing. Now, all that information has been driven to places online that are difficult to search, making the work almost impossible."
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In a post-SESTA world, Phoenix Calida, a Chicago based social-justice advocate and co-host of The Black Podcast, says that her community is scared. Calida entered the adult industry out of economic necessity as a teen mother nearly a decade ago, having survived abuse while growing up in the foster care system. She's been a sex-worker on and off ever since. She says that since the passage of SESTA and the seizure of Backpage, she's been increasingly contacted by pimps on social media, namely Twitter. "Nobody knows where to advertise, and while this is happening, everyone is getting hit up by pimps."

However, due to the tenuous nature of sex workers' safety on these platforms, some say they are reluctant to report abuse, for fear their accounts will then be surveilled, scrutinized or deleted in response. Since SESTA, Calida says, the online private group chats where sex workers could share survival strategies and harm reduction techniques to stay safe have also disappeared, leaving victims and vulnerable workers with even fewer options for safety and justice.

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If Trump and his family don't want things these things to be interpreted as posing obvious conflicts of interest, there's a very simple solution
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Sheldon Adelson
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Ivanka Trump's maternity leave policy would have required women to dip into their social security to pay for it.
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DifferentialEquation posted...

day 3 - Illegal immigrants attack a border control agent with lethal force.

That is no longer border patrol's story
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/25/us/texas-border-patrol-shooting/index.html

United States Customs and Border Protection on Friday released a slightly different account of a border agent's fatal shooting of an undocumented migrant near Nuevo Laredo, Texas, raising new questions about what actually happened.

After initially reporting the agent was attacked by migrants armed with "blunt objects," the federal agency on Friday said only that the group "rushed" the officer after ignoring orders to get on the ground.

But its latest version of events makes no mention of blunt objects described in an agency statement issued after Wednesday's shooting in the border town of Rio Bravo.

Additionally, the Border Patrol at first reported that a round from the officer's gun "fatally wounded one of the assailants" but the latest statement refers to the gunshot victim as a "member of the group."

Customs and Border Protection on Friday canceled a new conference on the shooting and instead released its updated statement.

An agency spokesman declined to comment further, saying the shooting was being investigated by the FBI and the Texas Rangers. An FBI spokesman also said the agency had no comment due to the ongoing investigation.
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Martinez said she later saw a Border Patrol statement claiming the migrants tried to the hit the agent with "a two-by-four," referring to a piece of lumber.

"There are no two-by-fours there," she said. "It's only grass and some branches."

In the video, a uniformed man is seen giving someone on the ground chest compressions but Martinez said the woman appeared to be dead.

In a vacant lot near her home, Martinez said an agent captured two men who ran from the scene after the shooting. Martinez said she heard the officer tell the men: "This is what happens. You see?"

The Border Patrol said agents arrested three undocumented immigrants.

Relatedly: https://www.texastribune.org/2018/02/08/after-fbi-report-agents-death-cornyn-warns-against-jumping-conclusions/

U.S. Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said Thursday that the results of an FBI investigation into the death of a Border Patrol agent who died late last year should serve as a cautionary tale against jumping to conclusions.

Border Patrol agent Rogelio Martinez, 36, died in November after sustaining severe head and body trauma while on patrol near the West Texas town of Van Horn. His death prompted some lawmakers to quickly call for increased border security after they assumed the death was a result of foul play.

But the FBI's El Paso field office on Wednesday said that after several hundred interviews, the agency has concluded that the agent's death was more likely the result of an accident. The FBI findings were first reported by The Washington Post.

To date none of the more than 650 interviews completed, locations searched, or evidence collected and analyzed have produced evidence that would support the existence of a scuffle, altercation, or attack on November 18, 2017, the office announced in a statement. Additionally, the El Paso County Medical Examiner has now released the autopsy report indicating blunt injuries of the head as the cause of death. The manner of death is undetermined.
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After the incident, President Donald Trump renewed his call for a wall on the southern border, and Gov. Greg Abbott offered a $20,000 reward for information that led to the arrests of the people responsible for what he called a murder. U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, also called the incident an attack.

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https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/irish-times-exit-poll-projects-ireland-has-voted-by-landslide-to-repeal-eighth-amendment-1.3508861

Ireland has voted by a landslide margin to change the constitution so that abortion can be legalised, according to an exit poll conducted for The Irish Times by Ipsos/MRBI.

The poll suggests that the margin of victory for the Yes side in the referendum will be 68 per cent to 32 per cent a stunning victory for the Yes side after a long and often divisive campaign.

More than 4,500 voters were interviewed by Ipsos/MRBI as they left polling stations on Friday. Sampling began at 7am and was conducted at 160 locations across every constituency throughout the day. The margin of error is estimated at +/- 1.5 per cent.

Counting of votes begins on Saturday morning at 9am with an official result expected to be declared in the afternoon.

However, the size of the victory predicted by the exit poll leaves little doubt that, whatever the final count figures, the constitutional ban on abortion, inserted in a referendum in 1983, is set to be repealed. An exit poll published later on Friday night by RT during the Late Late Show mirrored the projection seen in The Irish Times exit poll. The RT poll showed 69.4 have voted for Yes, while 30.6 per cent have voted for No.

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darkjedilink posted...

According to leftists, Obama's Presidency was eight years of perfection by the Executive branch.

Buddy, a leftist created this topic
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Surprise, turns out the video was edited in misleading ways prosecutors neglected to mention
https://www.thedailybeast.com/feds-hid-edits-in-right-wing-video-used-to-prosecute-anti-trump-protesters

Federal prosecutors hid evidence from anti-Trump activists set to go on trial, two judges ruled this week.

For months, prosecutors have claimed a video by the conservative group Project Veritas proved that anti-Trump activists conspired to riot outside his inauguration. Court rules required the prosecution to disclose all edits made to the Project Veritas video, which purports to show some anti-Trump activists discussing the protest in advance. Instead, prosecutors passed off an edited video as undoctored, a judge ruled Wednesday and a second judge confirmed Thursday.

The ruling could have major implications for the case if the video hasnt already tainted proceedings.

Following mass arrests outside President Donald Trumps inauguration on January 20, 2017, D.C. prosecutors charged approximately 200 people with conspiracy to riot and damage property. The mass indictment relied on evidence as flimsy as people wearing black clothing or chanting anti-capitalist slogans. If convicted on all counts, defendants face decades in prison.

So far, the case hasnt held up in court. The first six defendants were tried in December and cleared of all charges. Shortly thereafter, prosecutors dropped the charges against 129 more defendants. But dozens remain charged. The Project Veritas video, which purportedly showed activists discussing plans to disrupt pro-Trump inauguration celebrations days before the protest, was expected to be evidence in a number of those trials. The defendants, including one who says he wasnt even at the protest, pushed back, citing the reputations of Project Veritas and its founder James OKeefe, who have been accused of deceptive editing videos, among other dubious tactics.

This week, the defense pointed out a bigger problem with the Project Veritas video.

A legal provision called the Brady rule requires prosecutors to disclose any evidence in their possession that might help the defenses case.

Prosecutors released these videos to the defense, and told the defense and the judge [the videos] only had very specific edits to remove an undercover police officer and the person who recorded the undercover video, who was with Project Veritas, Elizabeth Lagesse, a defendant told The Daily Beast. Her case is scheduled for later this year. But it turns out, they had neglected to disclose more than that.

At least one potentially exculpatory section had been completely edited from the video. In the removed clip, a Project Veritas agent undercut part of the prosecutions argument.

I was talking with one of the organizers from the IWW [Industrial Workers of the World] and I dont think they know anything about any of the upper echelon stuff, the Project Veritas employee said in the removed clip.

The line is critical because prosecutors have eyed the IWW, a leftist union, as an instigator for the protest, Shadowproof previously reported. A number of the remaining defendants are IWW members, and IWW records were seized from defendants cell phones and entered as evidence in the case.

In a late Tuesday filing first reported by The Intercept, defense attorneys spotted the edited footage and called foul.

The government has abused its power by hiding discovery from all defendants, attorneys for the defendants wrote in a motion, purposefully choosing not to disclose Brady information, and calling into question the integrity of all of its third-party video evidence and proffers in open court.

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https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/mbkbbq/facebook-charlottesville-leaked-documents-american-nazis

...After Charlottesville Facebook had something of an internal reckoning around hate speech, and pushed to re-educate its moderators about American white supremacists in particular, according to a cache of Facebook documents obtained by Motherboard.

The documents provide more specific insights into how Facebook views and classifies white supremacy and neo-Nazis, and how those views have evolved, all as American hate speech establishes itself as a huge problem on the social networks and other platforms.

Recent incidents in the United States (i.e. Charlottesville) have shown that there is potentially confusion about our hate org policies and the specific hate orgs in specific markets, a training document for moderators created shortly after the protest, and obtained by Motherboard, reads.

One of the training documents includes a log of when Facebook has modified the material, including adding new examples of hate speech as the network identifies them. In November 2017, trainers added comparing Mexican people to worm like creatures to the document as an example of hate speech; in December they added an offensive comparison between Muslim and pigs; and in February Facebook trainers updated the material to mention users calling transgender people "it."

In January, 5 months after Charlottesville, Facebook added slides discussing the companys position on white nationalism, supremacy, and separatism. While it says Facebook does not allow praise, support, or representation of white supremacy, it does allow the same sort of positions for white nationalism and separatism, according to one of the slides obtained by Motherboard.

Explaining its motivation, another section of the document reads that nationalism is an extreme right movement and ideology, but it doesn't seem to be always associated with racism (at least not explicitly). Facebook then acknowledges that In fact, some white nationalists carefully avoid the term supremacy because it has negative connotations.

https://imgur.com/su6SpH8

But despite spelling out these distinctions, Facebook admits in the training materials that the difference between them is not always clear cut.

"Overlaps with white nationalism/separatism, even orgs and individuals define themselves inconsistently," one slide says, in a section marked "challenges" for white supremacy.

Another slide asks Can you say youre a racist on Facebook?.

No, is the response. By definition, as a racist, you hate on at least one of our characteristics that are protected.

Facebook classifies hate groups, individuals, and high profile figures based on strong, medium, and weak signals, according to one of the documents focused on hate speech in America. A strong signal would be if the individual is a founder or prominent member of a hate organization (or, h8 org, in Facebook parlance); medium would include the name or symbol of a banned hate group, or using dehumanizing language against certain groups of people. Partnership or some form of alliance with a banned hate organizationincluding participating in rallies together, of particular relevance to events like CharlottesvilleFacebook sees as a weak signal, as well as an individual receiving a guilty verdict for distributing forbidden propaganda material.

Facebook confirmed to Motherboard in a statement that it evaluates "whether an individual or group should be designated as a hate figure or organisation based on a number of different signals, such as whether they carried out or have called for violence against people based on race, religion or other protected categories."

https://imgur.com/RXZIpjR

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