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MARKINGRAM22 posted...

How is a National Anthem political?

The players' presence during it is the direct result of the NFL taking money from the Defense Department.
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CyricZ posted...

Are you all okay with the amassed NFL owners making this edict without the cooperation of members of their workforce?

No; to not give the union a voice in this is bad
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Antifar posted...

Every flyover is social commentary.

No it really isn't.

It's literally recruitment advertising for the military at a time when they're involved in countless foreign engagements that nobody outside of DC actually claims to want.
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KamenRiderBlade posted...

Sports wasn't meant to be a platform of Social Justice or any other form of Social Commentary.

Every flyover is social commentary.
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Noteworthy here that the rule allows players, even whole teams to stay in the locker rooms during the anthem.

I'm sure that the people the NFL is trying to appease here won't find that just as infuriating and call for the league to bar that too.
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Not sure if this has been posted yet and I don't think it would be a good use of my time to scour this thread to check:
https://twitter.com/NFLPA/status/999325257403002881
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RoyalAirForce posted...

The moral right, the catholic right wants the world to remain healthy for the second coming of Christ.

The pope talks about wealth redistribution. Catholics in much of the world are on the left.
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RoyalAirForce posted...

How does that detract from the fact that almost 100% of the advances made by western society were made in God's name?

The things they were advancing against were also made in God's name. From the divine right of kings to the Jim Crow south, just about all the hierarchies worth abolishing in our culture were constructed by people who thought or at least claimed they were doing God's work.
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The left you're familiar with is, what, the left of the US and UK? So while Christianity's flaws (prominently on issues pertaining to gender and identity) may be shared by other religions, it has been the one historically to influence politics and power in the west, and so it is the one whose impact is most acutely felt. Abortion isn't banned in Ireland out of deference to Muslims, for example

Also, I'd note that the "religious right" is a relatively recent creation, and even today it doesn't encapsulate all Christians. Take a look at the work being done by William Barber for an example of Christianity and the left commingling.
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voldothegr8 posted...

"Deserving" more than they're worth

Their "worth" in the monetary sense is determined by a contract which they have the right to collectively negotiate.
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Has anyone ever seen Donald Trump laugh?
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His apology makes it seem like his problem was tone. As if "calmly and respectfully" calling for people to be deported for speaking Spanish would be okay.
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Bill Maher is the conservative comedian you're looking for. He just doesn't like Republicans
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http://www.culinaryunion226.org/news/press/las-vegas-casino-workers-vote-to-authorize-a-citywide-strike

Members of UNITE HEREs Culinary and Bartenders Unions have voted to authorize a citywide strike. 25,000 union members participated in two voting sessions throughout the day and 99% voted yes.

Union contracts covering 50,000 union workers expire on June 1, 2018 at 34 casino resorts on the Las Vegas Strip and Downtown Las Vegas, including properties operated by MGM Resorts International, Caesars Entertainment Corporation, Penn National, Golden Entertainment, Boyd Gaming, and other companies.

50,000 hospitality employees who are preparing to go out on strike after June 1 include: Bartenders, guest room attendants, cocktail servers, food servers, porters, bellman, cooks, and kitchen workers employed at the casino resorts on the Las Vegas Strip and Downtown Las Vegas.

A strike is a last resort. We want to come to an agreement, but the union and workers are preparing for a citywide strike if contracts are not settled by June 1, said Geoconda Argello-Kline, Secretary-Treasurer for the Culinary Union. We support innovations that improve jobs, but we oppose automation when it only destroys jobs. Our industry must innovate without losing the human touch. That's why employers should work with us to stay strong, fair, and competitive.

I voted yes to go on strike to ensure my job isnt outsourced to a robot, said Chad Neanover, a prep cook at the Margaritaville, a Caesars Entertainment property. We know technology is coming, but workers shouldnt be pushed out or left behind. Casino companies should ensure that technology is harnessed to improve the quality and safety in the workplace, not as a way to completely eliminate our jobs.

I dont want to go on strike, but I will, said Adela Montes de Oca, a guest room attendant at the Aria, an MGM Resorts International property. The company is more profitable than ever because of the hard work we do, and Im going to keep fighting to make sure that we have a fair share of that success.

The Culinary and Bartenders Unions are negotiating new contract language to provide greater measure of security for members including workplace safety, sexual harassment, subcontracting, technology, and immigration. In addition, the Unions economic proposal seeks to provide workers a fair share of the employers enormous anticipated cash flows and Trump tax windfalls.

In 1984, thousands of Culinary Union members went on a citywide strike across the Las Vegas Strip for 67 days which crippled in the Las Vegas hospitality industry until contracts were settled.

The Culinary and Bartenders Unions are encouraging Nevada locals, elected officials, political candidates, and tourists to support workers by not patronizing hotels and casinos in case there is a labor dispute on or after June 1, 2018. In an event of a strike, please do not cross picket lines.

The Culinary Union, Nevadas largest union, maintains www.VegasTravelAlert.org, a website intended as a service for meeting and convention planners and all other travelers who need to know whether labor disputes could affect their plans in Las Vegas.

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Give Mike Huckabee a comedy show
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Related: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/05/14/is-capitalism-a-threat-to-democracy
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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/05/americas-brand-of-capitalism-is-incompatible-with-democracy.html

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Several social democratic (and/or, democratic socialist) thinkers, examining the patient from a few steps to the democracy movements left, have had their eyes drawn to a different set of symptoms. They see state and federal legislators who routinely slash taxes on the wealthy, and services for the poor, in defiance of their constituents wishes; regulatory agencies that serve as training grounds for the firms theyre meant to police; a Supreme Court thats forever expanding the rights of corporations, and restricting those of organized labor; a criminal-justice system that wont prosecute bankers for laundering drug money, but will dole out life sentences to small-time crack dealers; a central bank that has the resources to bail out financial firms, but not the homeowners whom they exploit...

In these grisly conditions, social democrats see a textbook case of malignant capitalism. Democracies cannot survive on norms alone. When markets are left under-regulated and workers, unorganized the corporate sector becomes a cancerous growth, expanding until it dominates politics and civil society. An ever-greater share of economic gains concentrates in ever-fewer hands, while the barriers to converting private wealth into public power grow fewer and farther between. Politicians become unresponsive to popular preferences and needs. Voters lose faith in elections and then, a strongman steps forward to say that he, alone, can fix it.

All this contraindicates the democracy movements prescription: If our republics true sickness is its inegalitarian economic system, then that illness wont be cured by cross-ideological coalitions. Quite the contrary: Whats needed is a movement that mobilizes working people in numbers large enough to demand a new deal from capital. Thus, if the liberal intelligentsia wishes to save American democracy, it should devote the lions share of its energies to brainstorming how such a movement can be brought into being and what changes that movement should make to our nations political economy, once it takes power.
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They all fail to ask whether the version of capitalism that emerged in the United States in the wake of the stagflation crisis of the late 1970s a capitalism characterized by, among other things, weak labor unions, corporate concentration, low growth, and high inequality is compatible with democracy.

Purdy suggests that it is not. And hes right.

There are two distinct arguments for this position. First, there is the hypothesis that the failures of capitalism are largely responsible for the rising popularity of illiberal populism throughout the West, and thus, that reforming our economic system is the best way to shield fundamental democratic norms from future assaults.
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There is both historical and social scientific evidence that in times of economic uncertainty, people become more inclined toward the kinds of cultural resentments that Trump exploited and cultivated. When human beings feel that the basis of their self-esteem and social status is under threat as is often the case for downwardly mobile workers in deindustrializing regions they tend to grow increasingly wary of diversity, more open to extremist ideas, and more defensive of the status of the social identity groups to which they belong.
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Whatever was in the hearts of marginal Trump voters, a nation where most citizens believe elections dont matter because the powerful control politics is one ripe for authoritarian populism.

And America isnt the only nation that has seen a increase in both inequality and distrust in democracy since the late 1970s. That trend is common to most of Western Europe, where it has also coincided with rising support for illiberal and extremist political parties.

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silentwing26x posted...

Basically anyone who isn't as far left as you can possibly be is, according to averagejoel, alt-right.

If that were the case he would call Bernie Sanders alt-right. But he doesn't. Because his views are not the exaggeration you attribute to him.
https://twitter.com/sarahljaffe/status/999281007797862400
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untrustful posted...

So if both teams have 7 people kneel, do they each get a touchdown or do their penalties cancel each other out?

Penalties don't stack in football.
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Solid Sonic posted...

Wait, a CHRISTIAN college denied entry to a CHRISTIAN preacher? What sense does that make?

Not all Christianity is the same
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/23/us/anti-trump-evangelicals-lynchburg.html

The night before Shane Claiborne came to town to preach at a Christian revival, he received a letter from the chief of police at Liberty University warning that if he set foot on the property, he would be arrested for trespassing and face up to 12 months in jail and a $2,500 fine.

At first glance, Mr. Claiborne hardly appeared a threat to Liberty University, a dominant force in Lynchburg, Va., and a powerful engine in evangelical Christianity. Wearing baggy clothes that he sews himself, Mr. Claiborne preaches the gospel, lives among the poor and befriends prisoners on death row, modeling his ministry on the life of Jesus.

But to the leaders of Liberty, he was a menace to their campus. He and his national network of liberal evangelicals, called the Red Letter Christians, were holding a revival meeting to protest in Libertys backyard. Their target: Jerry Falwell Jr., Libertys president and a man who has played a pivotal role in forging the alliance between white evangelicals and Donald J. Trump, who won 81 percent of their vote.

Mr. Claiborne and his group are the other evangelicals. The Red Letter Christians, a reference to the words of Jesus printed in some Bibles in red type, are not the evangelicals invited for interviews on Fox News or MSNBC. They dont align neatly with either political party. But they have fierce moral and theological objections to those evangelicals who have latched onto Mr. Trump and the Republican Party.
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Mr. Claiborne and his group were far more audacious, but they also faced disappointment, resistance and fear. They were taking on Lynchburg, a company town where Liberty University is the biggest employer. Their Red Letter Revival revealed the state of the evangelical church in 2018: The loudest voices and institutional power and money are with Mr. Trump; the dissenters are fired-up, underfunded and scattered; and the vast majority of pastors are silent for fear of dividing their congregations or risking their jobs.
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Red Letter Christians and other evangelicals have increasingly become frustrated that their church appears to be endorsing Mr. Trumps program of deporting immigrants, fanning racial tension and passing a tax deal benefiting the rich.

This is not of God, thundered Barbara Williams-Skinner, an influential black evangelical elder in Washington, D.C., as the audience stood and clapped at the revival. This is not worthy of our savior. This is not what he died for.

Beginning in January, Don Golden, the executive director of the Red Letter Christians, visited Lynchburg seven times in three months to try to recruit like-minded leaders and Liberty students.
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When the president of Lynchburg College, Kenneth R. Garren, learned that some of his chaplains and faculty had hosted a Red Letter meeting on campus, he told them the college could not sponsor the event or host meetings.

We didnt want to take sides. We have a fine relationship with Liberty, said Michael Jones, a spokesman for Lynchburg College, also a Christian school.

Three days before the revival, Mr. Golden met for breakfast with a leader of a local evangelical church in the dim, empty back room of a downtown cafe, so as not to be seen together. The church leader, who spoke on the condition that neither he nor his church be identified, said he believed in the Red Letter campaign because he was concerned about white evangelicals bond with Mr. Trump.

But the leader said that his church could not participate in the revival. He and three other elders at the church had jobs at Liberty University.
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In addition to banning the Red Letter Christians from campus, [Jerry Falwell] forbade the Liberty University student newspaper from covering the revival.

Wow, seems like we have a real issue of free speech on a college campus
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Bio1590 posted...

Johnny_Nutcase posted...

What if 4 players kneel? Is that a 60 yard penalty?

I feel like this is something the players would actually rebel over. I don't see how this couldn't be taken as a violation of the CBA by the Owners.

Well now it's just a dare.
Get the entire team, the coaching staff, some cheerleaders, and even the mascot to all kneel at once, just to put up a 1000-yard penalty.

On the contrary, I see a lot of games featuring offsetting penalties to start, almost by agreement from both sides
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First person is just kinda a bad way to explore a world, and open-world games rely so heavily on exploration.
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https://www.newyorker.com/books/double-take/philip-roth-in-the-new-yorker

I've only read one of his books, but I enjoyed it. (Portnoy's Complaint)
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It woke him up at 6 a.m. to get ready for a job he hated
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Context is a pretty wild concept
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Imagine holding the power that the conservative movement does and still feeling besieged the way they do.
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Omar Vizquel
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To the question of the "Democrats' message"
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/21/politics/democrats-better-deal-drain-the-swamp/index.html

On Monday, they introduced a new suite of anti-corruption proposals and "democracy reforms" designed to hammer at a variety of allegations of unethical behavior and investigations swirling around the Trump administration and team, from a personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, accused of trading on his access to the President, to cabinet officials like EPA administrator Scott Pruitt and OMB director Mick Mulvaney, the acting director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, who Democrats accuse of actively seeking to undermine their agencies' own missions.

"Instead of delivering on his promise to drain the swamp, President Trump has become the swamp," House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said.

Chuck Schumer, the Senate's top Democrat, echoed Pelosi. "The swamp," he said, "has never been more foul or more fetid than under this President."

The initial rollout of "A Better Deal," in 2017, was met with polite applause from progressive Democrats, who were pleased to see the party highlight an economic justice agenda. But the message -- overshadowed on the day by Trump son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner's meeting with Senate Intelligence Committee staffers -- has at turns been undermined, Maryland Rep. John Sarbanes told CNN, by a deep and growing public cynicism in American political institutions.

Like Congress.

"A lot of this is structural and a lot of it has been around for a long time," Sarbanes said earlier Monday. "Everybody knows it. The question is what are we going to do about it?"

Democratic leaders Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, along with Sarbanes, who chairs the party's "Democracy Reform Task Force" on Capitol Hill and has introduced a comprehensive reform bill called the "Government by the People Act," are hoping this new effort will inspire more faith from voters who might doubt that the party's increasingly ambitious policy goals -- like a deepening commitment to universal health care -- will ever get a fair hearing in the swamp.

"We think this (new rollout) caffeinates, makes stronger and reinforces, all the other messages that are part of 'The Better Deal,'" Sarbanes said. "'A Better Deal for our Democracy' is telling people that we want to find a way to give them their institutions back and make their voice count again."

That means encouraging policy points like automatic voter registration, an end to partisan gerrymandering, countering state laws Democrats believe are purpose-built to disenfranchise those already or trying now to get on the rolls, shining new light -- and toughening enforcement -- on dark money groups and, ultimately, reversing the effects of the Supreme Court's Citizens United decision with new legislation.

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iamintents posted...

i think they suspended her for specific comments on the sportscenter show, which is general sports news, not for her own commentary on her own show and articles.

No, it was about comments on Twitter
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I rather like Smells Like Teen Spirit, but also

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http://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/election/article211665879.html

As upset teachers across Kentucky Tuesday tried to flex their political muscle, Rockcastle County High School math teacher R. Travis Brenda narrowly defeated House Majority Floor Leader Jonathan Shell of Garrard County in one of the most-watched races for the state House, according to unofficial results.

Brenda tried in the Republican primary election for the 71st House District seat to capitalize on teacher anger against legislators who backed a controversial pension bill in this year's law-making session. It was Brenda's first bid for public office.

Shell, a farmer who has occupied the seat since 2012 and had the backing of U.S. Sen. Mitch McConnell as a potential rising star in the GOP, played a prominent role in handling the pension bill in the legislature.

The measure sparked a backlash of frustration by thousands of teachers who held protests at the Capitol.

According to the Associated Press, at least 40 current and former educators filed to run for seats this year in the Kentucky legislature. Sixteen of them had Democratic or Republican primary elections on Tuesday, including four against Republican incumbents.

Relatedly, two weeks ago in WV:
https://www.wvgazettemail.com/election_2018/legislature_2018/wv-senate-lindsay-beats-hunt-in-th- hamilton-ousts-karnes/article_7edfe4b5-0d6f-5b91-8f2f-545a9aac174d.html

In another key Senate race that many consider a bellwether for the general election, Delegate Bill Hamilton, R-Upshur, appeared on pace to defeat one-term incumbent Sen. Robert Karnes, R-Uphsur, in the 11th District Republican primary.

With 100 percent of precincts reporting, Hamilton had 6,789 votes (62 percent) to Karnes 4,127 votes (37 percent).

The race was considered significant since it pitted Hamilton, a moderate Republican backed by organized labor and teachers unions, against Karnes, who describes himself as one of the most conservative members of the Senate, and whose first term has been confrontational and contentious.

While Hamilton is a rare Republican who opposed right-to-work and supported retaining prevailing wage rate for state-funded construction projects, Karnes has frequently sparred with labor, notably calling union members free riders during a floor speech, and sponsoring bills this session that striking teachers contended targeted them and their union leadership.

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Technically I'm listening to the audiobook, but: Bullshit Jobs by David Graeber
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Weird to see ESPN celebrate this given that they suspended her
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https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/05/22/us/gofundme-cancer-patient-santa-fe.html

In a grim layering of American tragedies, a 67-year-old man with a lung disease was able to crowdfund his medical treatment only after his wife died in the Santa Fe, Tex., school shooting.

Cynthia Tisdale, 63, a substitute teacher at Santa Fe High School, was among the victims in Fridays shooting, in which a student used a shotgun and a handgun to kill eight students and two teachers.

She had hoped to one day retire and be a full-time grandmother, said John Tisdale, her brother-in-law. It will never happen.

Her husband, William Tisdale, was diagnosed with idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis, which leads to scarring of the lungs, making it harder to breathe. He was denied a lung transplant in December, when he was told he had 12 to 18 months to live, according to the familys GoFundMe page. Ms. Tisdale had taken the substitute teaching job partly to help pay his medical bills.

His family believed his best hope was an experimental stem cell treatment, which wasnt covered by insurance and would cost $13,000.

With the procedure I have a chance for more time with your momma (my wife of 47 years), my children, and my wonderful grandchildren who I so much want to see grow up as much as possible, he said in a letter to his son that was posted on the GoFundMe page, which was created on March 29. I fear without this I wont make it to see 2019.

The family initially got little support. The campaign had raised $1,215 from donors in six states as of May 18, more than $11,000 short of its goal.

Then the massacre in Santa Fe happened, and the world offered its sympathy to the family. As of Tuesday, donors had pledged more than $120,000, coming from all 50 states and at least 33 countries, according to Katherine Cichy, a GoFundMe spokeswoman.

In an interview on Tuesday, Mr. Tisdale said that he was overwhelmed by the support, and that there might now be enough money to afford a lung transplant, which had previously seemed too expensive. At the very least, hell be able to afford the stem cell treatment.

But Id rather not, he said. Id rather have her. It isnt worth it.

Mr. Tisdales son, William Tisdale Jr., said in an interview on Tuesday that the family has an appointment scheduled this week to get a second opinion on whether he would be a viable candidate for a transplant, which he wasnt considered before.

Mr. Tisdale Jr. said the extra money would help the family hire home health care for his father, a role his mother had performed, and cover the costs of her funeral.

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That's a hero
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It's been several years since I've thought about Whizzinators. Great brand.
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We didn't get here through idle satisfaction with the way things are.
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http://www.wkbn.com/news/local-news/man-shot-after-gun-hidden-inside-oven-goes-off/1191353806

A man is recovering in the hospital Monday night, after an accidental shooting in Warren Sunday evening.

It happened on Riverview Avenue on the city's Northwest side.

Detectives say a man placed a revolver in the broiler area of the oven for safe keeping. A woman who lives at the home started using the oven to cook, when the gun went off.

"He had heard the gun go off and he realized what was happening and he obviously didn't want anyone to get hurt, so he attempted to get up underneath there and get the gun out from underneath, but it was already too late and it was too hot and the gun continued to go off," said Detective Wayne Mackey of the Warren Police Department.

The man was shot twice, but is expected to be alright.

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Rule 10: be precise in your speech
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/trump-cuomo-tremendous-amount-donors-common-article-1.4003268

While Gov. Cuomo has been a vocal critic of President Trump, the two New Yorkers have had a number of donors and supporters in common.

Anthony Scaramucci, who was briefly Trump's communications director, in 2010 was the finance chairman of "Republicans For Cuomo" while former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who is on Trump's current legal team, co-chaired Cuomo's transition committee on public safety in 2010.

Trump Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin has given Cuomo's gubernatorial campaigns $15,000. He also gave another nearly $13,000 to Cuomo's attorney general campaigns, records show.

Among the other joint donors are hedge fund manager John Paulson, billionaire businessman Nelson Peltz, and businessman Ronald Perelman.

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It's not just games; TV shows have been big on anti-heroes basically since the Sopranos
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https://twitter.com/jason_koebler/status/998940238021120005

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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/05/trumps-business-schemes-warrant-their-own-investigation/560897/

Consider all the facts that only a Congress in dereliction of its duty would fail to probe:

Trumps personal attorney, Michael Cohen, set up a limited liability corporation under a pseudonym where he received millions of dollars from foreign and domestic interests with business before the government.

Cohen also helped a major donor to Mr. Trumps inauguration pitch a nuclear-power investment to the Qatari sovereign-wealth fund at a meeting in April, The Wall Street Journal reports. According to The Washington Post, Cohen solicited $1 million from the government of Qatar in exchange for influence and access to the incoming Trump Administration. And Cohens financial transactions were generating so many suspicious activity reports that a gangsters lawyer could hardly have raised more concerns.

According to the Associated Press, Elliott Broidy, a top Trump fundraiser, spearheaded a secret campaign to influence the White House and Congress with political donations, working on behalf of Saudi Arabia and the UAEand against Qatarwith the expectation of getting a billion in business. At the same time, according to The Daily Beast, he was also receiving the biggest payouts in the history of his company from the U.S. government.

The same man was involved in a suspicious $1.6 million hush-money payment to a Playboy model that was facilitated in part by Michael Cohen.

According to the South China Morning Post, A billion-dollar Indonesian property development with ties to US President Donald Trump has become the latest project in Chinas globe-spanning Belt and Road infrastructure project, and news that the project would benefit from $500 million in government loans from China coincided with Trump intervening on Chinas behalf in a dispute with the Commerce Department. The affair seems to be a violation of the Foreign Emoluments Clause.

Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C., appears to be another violation.

In the years before Trump ran for president, his company somehow had hundreds of millions of dollars on hand for cash transactions inconsistent with both industry practices and how it had done business for its prior history. And a reporter from a golf magazine says that Eric Trump told him several years ago that they had all the investment money they need from Russia.

In Sunny Isles Beach, over 60 individuals with Russian passports or addresses bought nearly $100 million worth of units in Trump-branded condominium towers in a part of South Florida known as Little Moscow. Among them were Russian government officials who made million-dollar investments and a Ukrainian owner of two units who pleaded guilty to one count of receipt of stolen property in a money-laundering scheme involving a former Ukrainian prime minister.
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According to The New York Times, Federal prosecutors are investigating Kushner Companies, the real estate firm owned by the family of Jared Kushner, the presidents son-in-law and senior adviser, over its use of a program that grants visas to wealthy overseas investors.
Trump promised voters that he would put his businesses in a blind trust. But the actual trust, which reportedly gives his sons control of his company, isnt actually blind in any meaningful way; it allows President Trump to withdraw money from the company at any time; and the Trump Organization will not even release the full language of the document to the public.

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https://twitter.com/SteveKopack/status/998974030244925440
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Your dad sounds cool as hell
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iPhone_7 posted...

You must be a really irresponsible parent to willingly risk your childs safety on a dangerous trip to a foreign land.

Not only that but risk being screwed over by the host country. Was it worth your child, Mr. or Mrs. parent?

Compare those to the risks of staying where they are, though.
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butthole666 posted...

So is there any hope of this getting overturned or are we just fucked forever

It's not a constitutional matter, so a change in the law by Congress is all that's needed. Now
- This won't happen so long as Republicans hold control
- Whether Democrats will make it a focus by the time they regain power remains to be seen.
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Y2J_os_HBK_Blue posted...

Nobody works for minimum wage except highschoolers and felons.

That's incredibly not true. 55% of those making minimum wage (or less) are 25 and older
https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2015/home.htm
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