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ClockworkHare posted...

What's worse is he was only 10 years old and identifying as gay might have only been a phase.

i know you're not actually saying that if the kid was gay then it would be less bad.

That's good. It shows you understand underlying context and avoid raging at the first inclination of misinterpreting it. Really wouldn't make sense for an actual gay person who's lived through homosexual experiences to say something like "it's okay if the kid was really gay "...

My comment comes from a personal place on this issue since I've also been the recipient of parental abuse due to my orientation. I've also had relationships with lgbt people who have suffered from broken homes like mentioned in this article. I don't need to be told that a kid getting abused or murdered for being identified as queer is a tragedy. I've actually lived through such scenarios, thanks. Anyone who hasn't, please step off.

A child being murdered for coming out as gay is a brutal act performed out of bigotry and is a hate crime. It's bad. Duh.

Pardon me if I also see some additional tragedy in the very real possibility that the child could have just been going through a phase mimicked from peers, relatives, pop culture, etc. It fucking happens. I would know. Hundreds of lgbt people know this. It shouldn't be a shocking concept to any of us. In a lot of cases of a little kid who acts or identifies as queer in their childhood they just outgrow it without parental influence. They try being something for a while and then suddenly decide to go another direction. Some kids do this. I never said all kids who claim to be gay are just going through a phase. Get over it.

And, hello, a 10 year old kid claiming to be gay isn't the same as a 16 year old coming out of the closet. Little kids are not functioning on the same concepts of sexuality yet. Their behavior is very fluid because they're still developing socially at a rudimentary level. So I've learned to take what a little kid identifies as with a grain of salt, like many cautious adults would.

A little 10 year old says he's gay, I think it's 50/50 he really could be or someone/something in his environment is simply influencing him to come to that conclusion. Little kids are super impressionable. A 16 year old teenager, however, who says he's an active homosexual and having sexual fantasies about other teen boys....yeah, I'm gonna more willing to bet money he's legit.

My main point is that this 10 year old murder victim who supposedly claimed to be gay might not have actually been gay at all. 10 year olds say a lot of things; that doesn't mean it's anything definitive. Yet this boy was slain by someone who distinctly took it so seriously they weren't leaving anything to chance. His murderer hated the existence of gays that much. That's how deep this issue goes with me. Even with all the pro-gay support in the west, violent homophobia still permeates some households to the point that even heterosexual kids are being beaten and murdered on the mere suspicion they're gay. That's nothing new; yet it's something society wants to convince itself doesn't happen much anymore...because we're so "progressive" now.

If you don't get why I see additional tragedy in that irony, you don't get everything that bothers me about this story and why. Probably because you can't while being on the outside. If you're still bent out of shape over the second post in this topic, you came to the wrong conclusion about how I feel regarding this story. I sympathize with that boy because I grew up with boys like him and it stings knowing another one is dead because of gross primitive hatred. That's really all you need to know.
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TrevorBlack79 posted...

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TrevorBlack79 posted...

ClockworkHare posted...

Little kids can believe they're super heroes and unicorns

No they can't.

Sure they can. Casual use of imagination is a common activity of early childhood development. Kids toy sales thrive on this.

You said believe, not imagine.

And?

Little kids can imagine to the point of belief. It's kind of easy for them to do that because they have yet to integrate adult concepts into their preferred realities. This allows them to casually pop in and out of imaginary thought when comfortable and needed as a distraction. This can sometimes border on the child believing in their imaginary creations, particularly when the real world is seeming unappealing. Proper adult supervision helps enforce moderation of this behavior and prevents children from staying within their dreamworld for too long.

Part of the reason children have this instinctual behavior is to allow them to cope with times when beneficial parental or peer interaction is limited.
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D

You can help someone who refuses your assistance, but it will create some awkward confrontations when done directly. Creative indirectness will be more successful, but not everyone has the spare time, resources, and patience for that. Most people also lose incentive to continue helping someone once it's clear no signs of recognition/gratitude will be returned.

In many cases you can definitely help someone who doesn't want it, but that absence of any thanks is a real discouraging factor for givers who are sensitive about it (which most people are).
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I laugh whenever an anime-themed series has the males of a species looking practically like zoo animals while the females are just human bikini girls wearing animal ears.
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Danky Kang is on cartoon roids. He could bitch slap Superman if he wanted to.
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They're banging. That's like instant diplomatic immunity for the new chick.

Main problem isn't her.
It's your dad's piss poor standards rofl.

Help the old bastard find someone better.
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TrevorBlack79 posted...

ClockworkHare posted...

Little kids can believe they're super heroes and unicorns

No they can't.

Sure they can. Casual use of imagination is a common activity of early childhood development. Kids toy sales thrive on this.
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ShinobiNinjaX posted...

ClockworkHare posted...

I have an easier time taking a shit the next morning.

Wouldn't it be harder, cause it gets packs in deeper

Nah, it's basic 101 to take a deuce before anal to avoid train wrecks. By morning I gotta go again.
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le Jacques Strahp
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The Incredibles are a homage to the Fantastic Four.
Homages to the FF in cartoons and comics are a trope at this point.
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I have an easier time taking a shit the next morning.
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Why is male genitalia funny but not female?

That's easy.

It's becau-....oh whoops, I thought you said "comedians".


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DarkChozoGhost posted...

DarkTransient posted...

DarkChozoGhost posted...

ClockworkHare posted...

What's worse is he was only 10 years old and identifying as gay might have only been a phase.

No, that's not "what's worse." The worst part is that she murdered him because of what he said.

No. The "she murdered him because of what he said" is the basic premise. "He's only 10 years old and might not have even been gay" is additional to that, ie: "worse".

Negligible. The fact that a mother would kill a child for saying he's gay is so terrible, it wouldn't make a remotely significant difference if he had just been confused.

Also, the "it's just a phase" people need to drop that attitude.

I'm gay myself.
Sometimes it really is just a phase when a kid who's not even an adolescent yet says they're gay, trans, whatever.

Hell, sometimes it's just a phase for a teen...
That's why I discourage parents from making any permanent life-changing adjustments for a minor's temporary behavior they will likely outgrow.
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Tips on how to not look gay while eating a banana in public?

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What's worse is he was only 10 years old and identifying as gay might have only been a phase. Little kids can believe they're super heroes and unicorns, but eventually they grow out of it. In some cases that includes the kid's behavioral orientation.

That's why when a kid who's not a teen yet claims to be gay or trans...I take it with a grain of salt. That kid could go in a completely different direction 3 months later depending what perks their interests. It's called child development.
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Nobody cares about fat people in Hawaii because they're already used to seeing whales.
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Le__seul_dieu__ posted...

terrible woman writer being dumb and sexist, more news at 11.

Actually yeah...

Like practically all of those points are also issues with immature women.

#4 is just pretentious.
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alt_no_1_loves posted...

They're called socks, my dude.

ayyyyy
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Why do men enjoy playing with their gf's/wife's body instead of their...oh wait.
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DarkChozoGhost posted...

Because he's a scientist, not a monkey

Danky Kang can science too!
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Warning: this topic may contain large amounts of soy.
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Would you take a shit in this toilet?

You would get smited for using God's toilet.
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scar the 1 posted...

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However, sometimes such a critic is dead wrong in the presumption that no man can have any keen insight into women's issues at all.

I think often that's not the criticism, it's rather that they're co-opting the platform. That's a separate issue from having keen insight.

We're talking about two different scenarios.

Sometimes a feminist critic is correct in saying a specific man doesn't know much about women's issues and really should not be trying to "co-opt the platform" by playing himself off as an authority of it. Particularly if that man is speaking out of his ass and benevolently over generalizing. This seems to be what you're referring to.

Sometimes a feminist critic is incorrect in presuming that a man could never have enough insight into any women's issues himself to speak on a platform at all. There are some men who actually legitimately can on certain subjects and it doesn't innately hurt the causes of feminism to hear from a man's perspective as well. Part of what encourages more men to take note of women's issues is hearing about them from other respectable men they can relate to. This is what I'm talking about.

They're two different scenarios that spark feminist criticism towards men who claim to be male feminists.
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The worst and best thing I ever did to fuck up chances with a girl is telling her I'm gay.
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Leave where...?

It's not like Bugs Bunny is gonna saw off California too.
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Youtube thinks you're a strong independent woman who needs no man.


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scar the 1 posted...

cjsdowg posted...

There are a ton of female feminist who hate male feminist.

What I often see is female feminists who get angry when male feminists try to take the spotlight and speak with authority on issues they have no personal experience with. It's like they're really missing the point they're trying to convey.

That does happen.

However, sometimes such a critic is dead wrong in the presumption that no man can have any keen insight into women's issues at all. Part of the reason feminism even exists is men being a necessary component of it, not just as the bad guys who cause a need for it...but also supportive men who are willing to enable it and not stand in it's way.

Let's be real: if most men decided to put their foot down several decades ago and said absolutely NO to western feminism, it would not exist as influentially today no matter how much women cried for it. Men had more than enough power back then to squash it into submission and make it taboo. Western nations could have been similar to the middle east in gender norms. That did not come to pass because a significant number of men were willing to step aside and say YES.

Many men also have personal connections to female family and cohorts which gives them varying levels of incentive to observe a woman's struggles and strive to alleviating them both socially and politically. You don't always have to be within the demographic to have a clear enough view to understand it's biggest issues. If that wasn't the real case, no people would ever help anyone different than themselves. Men and women, for example, would never support each in any way. They would only use each other much like we used beasts of burden in the past.

Clearly that's not the case today because some men DO have a clear understanding of women's issues. It would seem ridiculous to call any man an expert of what a woman endures in her life (and vice versa), but it's just as stupid to claim no man could possibly understand any of a woman's struggles. Plenty of men have because they said yes to women's rights.
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gawdamn thos literals!
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Some crime boss would hunt you down for "encouraged employment" so you could reanimate kamikaze assassins.


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I thought Snape acted like an asshole to Harry so no one would ever suspect that he helped the kid at all. If anyone was strong enough to read Snape's mind, all they would have seen was him being a jerk to Harry.

And as "creepy" as Snape still holding a torch for his dead crush was, she was basically one of the only people from his childhood who was kind enough to him to be remembered positively. That can be a pretty big deal for someone who grew up with loneliness issues and a lot of enemies...

After the revelation of Snape's past, it's not improbable that he was conflicted when dealing with Harry as a student. Harry's father being a bully towards Snape as a youth gave him reason to resent Harry's resemblance and connection. While Snape's fondness of Harry's mother gave him reason to look out for her final wish: protecting her child's life.
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catboy0_0 posted...

respond at all and you haven't been antagonistic, that means you probably made them melty, right?

It means you


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Fair.

I'm both a Clefairy and an Apache attack helicopter.
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ProtoManSPx posted...

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I've met more straight people who were comfortable deeding next to each other while watching porn.

This happens in real life?

Yeah, it's just not common.

You would probably be surprised what people will admit to when they think you're just another stereotypical gay nymphomaniac. They presume another "deviant" won't judge them as harshly for it rofl.
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What did you dislike about The Cleveland Show?

I actually liked it, but even I could tell the material wasn't consistently winning over watchers like American Dad was. Even if with it's haters, Family Guy was hitting enough demographics to still qualify as entertaining much like the aging Simpsons. Cleveland Show, not so much...

I don't believe Cleveland's spin-off lost steam primarily because it was viewed as "black Family Guy". The jokes just didn't hit the mark as much as Seth McFarlane's other shows; whether it was the character choice, the weak writing, or both. Family Guy has been pretty meme-worthy over the years despite having some annoying drawn-out gags in later seasons. The Cleveland Show was missing qualities like that. The humor was kind of flat to begin with and it's own annoying gags only made that worse.

I actually wish it would have done better instead of hitting Fox's toilet like The P.J.'s, but that would have required better writing and an introduction of more interesting characters. Cleveland wasn't really a great choice of main character anyway. The guy was bland as fuck and created to support Peter Griffin as a token neighbor. He didn't get much of an upgrade after becoming a lead...
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I've met more straight people who were comfortable deeding next to each other while watching porn.
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Why does the little girl have a third eye...?
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NightMarishPie posted...

DavidWong posted...

I used to be down about it but I'm balding very fast now (28) and I've just accepted it. There's still enough that I can buzz it right down to a #1 and it looks okay, but I'll be chrome dome in a year or two.

Yeah, I figured if it happens to me, I'm just gonna grow a full beard and gain like 30 more lbs of muscle and be just a big meat head lol.

Well it can work...

Hitting the gym is a common way for men to compensate for baldness. And it can have success. Although the reasons why are a lot more than just looking fit. Commitment to a gym routine that's producing results can encourage a guy to take more disciplined initiative with staying in shape and become more confident in his physical abilities. These can be very attractive traits on their own and can positively influence how he conducts other areas of his life as well. And flattering recognition of these changes by self and peers can pull a lot of balding guys out of the rut of losing their hair. It can help them reinvent their image and convince them that the hair was just an expendable aspect of them.
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Fact-checkers are some of the most inconvenient whistle blowers. Especially when it's part of their job...
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He prefers the handcuffs lately.
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It's called not letting your political affiliations determine all your thinking for you.

Some issues are not black and white. Some are shades of gray and the political party you subscribe to might only focus on certain issues, while basically ignoring others that you think are important.

Don't be afraid to jump around and look at other perspectives when educating yourself and forming your individual opinion. It makes no sense to limit yourself to only one. It's a big busy world.

I'm a feminist, but I've also spoken up for men's issues as well.
I'm fairly liberal on political topics, but I still respect that some conservative values are important to people for valid reasons.
I'm supportive of gay marriage, but I'm also a fan of seeing other people...including traditional "cis couples"...have successful matrimony too.
I voted Hillary Clinton for the 2016 US election, but I can still understand that not everyone who voted for Trump are the same or did so for identical reasons.

People have different opinions and perspectives. I'm fine with that and can still get along with someone who's political opinions are not the same. You're not going to hear or see even most of what's really going on in the world if you only open yourself to exchanging ideas with people "on your side". Part of what makes a successful diplomat is being brave enough to step out of an echo chamber to face differing opinions and not being afraid to entertain the possibility that one could change yours.

The thing about people who sit in political echo chambers and shut out any differing train of thought is that they never realize when the party they're subscribing to might have a negative ugly side too. They can't; they're stuck inside the shelter. They can't see the clearer picture until they step outside of it and look. And when they don't, they become vehemently blindsided by any criticism towards that party, even in instances when it's valid. That's what happens when a group begins to prioritize self affirmation more than self reflection...
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"The enemy of the people," Trump says pointing at press in the room

In a sense he's not wrong, considering how several media giants influence public opinion for gain (they are an industry after all).
However, he's forgetting that one finger also points towards him...
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I figured he was South American of some sort.

Then again, he could just be another white billionaire with questionable ethics who keeps a tan...
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CrimsonRage posted...

ClockworkHare posted...

Either way, getting lost in a huge desert with life-threatening heat and no means of transportation or replenishing water is a horrible way to go. These poor people are just trying to find a place to survive, something that's comparably a lot easier to find in more developed countries even at the poverty level.

Let's be real: little in the US compares to dying aimlessly in the Sahara...

like what is this supposed to mean? "dying in a desert is worse than being separated from your parents and locked in a cage, so really you should be grateful." that's fucked. comparing them gets us nowhere.

That wasn't the point I was making.

And I did say "little in the US compares ".
What I did not say is that "nothing in the US compares ".

Should be pretty easy to see the difference so long as you're not easily triggered and jump to conclusions...
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Either way, getting lost in a huge desert with life-threatening heat and no means of transportation or replenishing water is a horrible way to go. These poor people are just trying to find a place to survive, something that's comparably a lot easier to find in more developed countries even at the poverty level.

Let's be real: little in the US compares to dying aimlessly in the Sahara...
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Asherlee10 posted...

DeadSite posted...

This meme that Asherlee is actually a female needs to stop tbh

I'd prefer it if you just think of me as guy on CE, anyway. Causes a lot less bullshit.

wo man wo
slow down, you're blowin my mind
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People who want our species to go extinct/the end of society gave up.

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when bae breaks out the whip cream & duct tape


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pinky0926 posted...

I feel like this might be Asherlee

https://i.redd.it/n6wjp3hni0611.jpg

@Asherlee10

Why would you think her face looks like a dog's?

That's cold, pinky...


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