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gguirao posted...

I don't want to spend life as a rodent.

and a short life it would be

rodents are natures Skittles by design
they have short lifespans because of it
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It's funny, because in 10 to 20 years there probably will be a pill for that.
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Anisoptera posted...

women are more homophobic than men.

As far as relationship standards in general, actually yes.

There are more men who would accept a girlfriend being bisexual provided she was still very appealing to be with for the man. To an extent, some men would not even find the possibility of the bi gf hooking up with other women as an immediate threat. Some men would welcome that kind of fetish scenario as long as it never impeded on their benefits in the relationship.

Women, on the other hand, are typically not as eager to accept that arrangement with a bisexual man for multiple reasons. There might be a notable amount of women who sexually fantasize about male/male scenarios just like the amount of men who fantasize about lesbians, but that's not equivalent to the women actually wanting a relationship with a bisexual male partner. Not for the long run.

Women in general either initially or eventually prioritize commitment in relationships. That means the man desires "just her". It's very rare for a woman to not fall into this age old trend once she's ready for a significant relationship. Once most women reach that stage, they're typically not okay with their men having any open sexual encounters because it could cause issues with common advanced relationship goals like marriage and raising a family. Most women don't want their men sleeping around with other partners when it comes time to settle down, open relationship or not. They want the man's priorities to be set on supporting the family and home, not his open sexual adventures which could naturally conflict with that.

There is a longstanding stigma towards bisexual people that implies they're promiscuous nymphomaniacs and casually dishonest about it; that they can not grasp the value of fidelity and are unable to be exclusive. However, it's bisexual men who receive the greater brunt of that stereotypical criticism both from women attracted to men and ironically some fellow LGBT peers.

The AIDS controversy actually has very little to do with why most women will lose their interest in an attractive man once it's revealed he's any other orientation besides heterosexual. It's why it's not uncommon to see a rapid decline in female fan base once a popular hunky icon comes out as queer. It kills the women's fantasies of the male icon ever being intensely attracted to them and no one else. The key words being there: "no one else", because many women still desire unquestionable commitment as part of the package when they fantasize about their ideal trysts.
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If I was really into someone enough to want to get married to them, like just head over heels in love with them...it would take far more than a simple request of a prenup to turn me off on being with them. I would gladly cooperate with any reasonable prenuptial agreement if that is what would help my partner feel more comfortable with our union.

To me, getting upset over a partner asking for a prenup is like getting insulted that they wanted to use a condom to have sex with you.

"Why do we need a condom? You think I'm not honest about my last check up? YOU DON'T TRUST ME?!"

https://imgur.com/mGrAnrV

If you're going to throw away a relationship just because the other person asked for some premarital agreements, you're weak and pretentious...
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There isn't one anymore? What happened?
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S1nharvest posted...

My GF'S mom in particular is being very pressuring, I didn't care for it, I ignored it/humored it. My GF'S was down too, but about a month ago she started to slip. Recently after asking me why we wouldn't get married she goes "If we're going to be together forever, why not make it official" and "Do you not love our family" and "Why are you afraid to commit, you always need and escape route and things won't be the same forever" she doesn't usually talk like this, so I'm sure he moms is planting those words in her head.

Bad thing is she knows how much I dislike marriage, so I can't even brush it off with some we'll see shit, she wants a yes lol. There's no manual for this shit once it's actually in your face, TV and Movies have not helped me out all, or Steve Harvey. We live together, raise our son together, but heaven forbid being called someone's baby mama instead of wife, that changes everything.

Commit or quit.

If you're not interested in marriage at this time, that's your right.
Women should not be pressured into marriage. Neither should men.

Talk to your gf and explain how you really feel about the idea of marriage at this time.
Find out how SHE really feels about it too. Say you want HER feelings about it, not a regurgitation of her mom's.
If she has a habit of constantly parroting her mother's opinons, thats BAD. That needs to go before you agree to any matrimony, period.
No really, that needs to be one of your conditions, I'm serious...or you're basically going to be marrying her mom also.
A lot of men don't realize that they can haggle a bit on premarital agreements before proposing. It's the smart thing to do.
So be sure to make it clear that if your gf wants you to step up and propose, she needs to then think more independently without her mom.

And hey maybe a reason you don't feel confident about marriage right now is because YOU need more confirmation that it's also a good deal for YOU. What you want as the man also matters. And it's your gf's job to fill in those answers and convince you it's worthwhile for you too. If all she's got ready is ultimatums, that's not a good sign...

Marriage is not something to rush into. You should want it to succeed, but on conditions that benefit both of you. Tread carefully, take the time to make a good foundation. Don't get married just to shut up the mother-in-law. Don't do it just because you got a kid. If you do it, make sure it's for reasons you want.

And if it's not what you actually want...just be straight up honest about it. Better now instead of after the rings are on.
If your gf still wants to hold out for the possibility of marriage after that, than apparently she needs to up her own game to convince you it's a good deal.
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Konflikt posted...

ehhwhatever posted...

so what do you call someone who gets laid all the time and they do nothing for society? silence... crickets chirping

Lmao is this really your immediate reaction to a youtube video mocking misogynistic losers

To be fair, there's also a lot of misogynists who do actually get laid often too.
Ironically enough, having sexist perspectives doesn't always negate a person's ability to repeatedly attract sex partners or even relationships.

The "incel" controversy isn't accurately summed up as just a matter of potential misogyny; it's much more complicated than that. And I feel it's one that's going to increasingly get worse in the US before it gets better due to how American society responds to it instead of taking it more seriously from all sides of the issue. We typically just side with one and tell the others to "get over it and conform". Which isn't a feasible solution...

Boys need more help before they reach this kind of stage. Men need more support to avoid it.
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FFVII_REMAKE posted...

Third wave feminism

Goats posted...

broken image

That's kind of poetic.
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Asking a transgender person if they used to have a conjoined twin is awkward and terribly insensitive.


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Some women actually do hit a gym just to cruise for muscle men.
They also get disappointed when they're NOT approached by any attractive guys there.
Sometimes it even coaxes them to actually work out while on the prowl.
I know; a lot of gay guys do it too. Looking for buff dudes at a gym, wow there might be a chance you'll find some there....

Just don't assume every woman who looks pretty at a gym is hunting for a new boyfriend (or girlfriend). That's stupidly presumptive.

Invite them to chat when it's convenient for them, but don't be a pushy ass about it.
Sometimes what changes a woman's mind about you is your maturity and self control...
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Did you just assume that shrieking organism is non-binary?!


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They already kind of do. And even discounting the conflicting fact that I'm only attracted to men, it's annoying when a woman flirts with me for a date because of the superficial reasons usually involved. They either got their eye on my career, my muscles, my height, my assets. Very rarely has their initial interest in me ever been something more than just my surface stats. It gives the impression they want me as a material possession than a person with an identity.

It's a big part of why I can also sympathize with how many women have to deal with awkward encounters with thirsty guys who just want a trophy to brag about, a convenient fuck toy, or both.
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Spooking posted...

ClockworkHare posted...

You should have seen Cenk's reaction when it became clear Hillary Clinton was losing her lead in the 2016 US election...to, of all people, Trump. He was not a happy camper...

Funny enough, KingCrabCake uploaded the video the other day:

Whether you like Trump or not, you have to admit this is one of the best videos ever created.

"Donald Trump is not going to be president. Take it to the bank."


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spudger posted...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/08/male-professor-faces-disciplinary charges-for-joke-in-crowded-elevator-calls-it chilling-example-political-correctness.html

Richard Ned Lebow, professor of international political theory at King's College in London, was in a jammed elevator when someone asked him what floor he needed to get off on, according to a Washington Post opinion piece.

"Ladies' lingerie," he joked.

He was attending the International Studies Association conference in San Francisco at the time. Simona Sharoni, professor or women's and gender studies at Merrimack College in Massachusetts, also present in the elevator, took offense and several hours after the incident, she filed a complaint with the association, which found that Lebow violated the group's code of conduct.

What if he meant he gets aroused wearing women's lingerie...?


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Spooking posted...

Have you seen the debate where Ben Sharpiro completely dominates Cenk from TYT?

To be fair, that's not really a difficult feat.

You should have seen Cenk's reaction when it became clear Hillary Clinton was losing her lead in the 2016 US election...to, of all people, Trump. He was not a happy camper...
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Girl survives her first text and drive accident - dies the second time.

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FF wanted more old man ass shots


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Veggeta X posted...

If my company finds out I am a kissless virgin then I am FUCKED

So you're saying your problem will resolve itself. Good for you.
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shorter man ain't a bad thing
his lips are closer to your cucumber


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Some people are not eager to chat about their pasts on initial dates. Sometimes their past is why they're looking for someone new and they don't want to reminisce about it much.

Although I will concede: if someone's really hurting for a new relationship, they need to let some awkward questions slide. Like that should be a standard to do for anyone agonizing over being lonely. Otherwise, they basically want to stay single and buried in cats.

I didn't say everyone should just let any triggering question or comment slide just because they're lonely. I'm saying give some leeway with awkward comments when you're looking for a new relationship. Learn to gauge between responses that are outright appalling to most people and ones that are really just you being over-sensitive...

Before you consider flipping a table and walk out over a date's comment, ask yourself 3 things:
-what was the real intention of the comment/question and was it really that bad?
-is the date completely destroyed or can it still be turned around into a better experience?
-just how fucking lonely are you?

Ask your cats; they would know.


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P4wn4g3 posted...

The closest would probably be huffpo

That would be more like an equivalent.
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Seems pointless. She's not going to run again.
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One of our local grocery stores charges inflated prices for those who don't have a club card.
With a card, you get the benefit of paying what used to be the former, cheaper normal prices...

So yeah, I have cards for grocery store chains. There's no fees, so I don't care about using them to get the old prices. Fuck, with one chain's program all you have to do is type in any local customer's phone number who has a card and you get the cheaper card prices. You don't actually have to have your own card. I was doing that for a couple years until I finally said fuck it and got my own card.
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Do you associate "conservative" with "racist"?

No. That wouldn't make sense to me as a liberal considering all the conservatives I've socialized with who weren't racially or sexually discriminating.

They do exist.
If they don't in your locale, that's a sign you need to move....
You'll typically find that's easier than waiting for such a society to change for you.

Save up, put on the adult pants and relocate. Migration to better places isn't a new thing.
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Duncanwii posted...

I haven't watched it but I've always found the lack of Green Lantern very off putting.

Would have been nice to see John Stewart as GL.
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Aloner posted...

ClockworkHare posted...

Ask any super butch lesbian or extreme queen gay man.

Even some "straight" guys would do stuff with extreme queen men tho.

That number is considerably low compared to how many wouldn't. Despite media glamorization, it's not uncommon for gay/bi men to find gay male queens with stereotypical traits to be incompatible (too annoying, effeminate, pretentious, high maintenance, etc). They're definitely not most gay men's first choice outside of hook ups and fetishes...

You learn this real quick as a sexually active gay man.
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Can a gay be an incel?

I'm not keen on the bandwagon term.

However, yes, it is possible for a gay man or woman to be so aloof (shy, oblivious, antisocial) or repelling (physically, socially, or both) to other people that they continue to be unintentionally single.

Even a gay person who's stereotypically expected to get laid left and right in communities promoting sexual liberation can still get stuck masturbating alone with their tears when they have socially conflicting traits.



Ask any super butch lesbian or extreme queen gay man. Experience has often taught them they're more or less an "acquired taste" as far as dating, kind of like obese people with chubby chasers.
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tits too big
thighs not comically big enough heuheuheu
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is social isolation really that bad?

Depends on the person.

Some people have the mental constitution to survive fine without daily means of socialization/pop media intake. They make great candidates for outpost careers away from civilization and jobs that are locally within a city yet boxed in by architecture. To an extent, some very important means of production and services rely on this uncommon type of people. They're actually a good thing to have contributing to society as far as finding someone to do some very unpopular jobs that benefit through economy.

To be frank, modern society kind of takes these people for granted despite the important economic contributions because their places of work are hidden away from most eyes and they rarely get credited for anything. Fortunately most of the people who step forward to accept these positions typically don't care about the credit.

The point is living day to day in a socially isolated life does not automatically have negative results on everyone. Most, yes. Everyone, no. Some people are just that mentally tough and naturals at isolated function.
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SpiralDrift posted...

Damn. lol

I know. Apparently Emily Yoffe is savage as fuck.

And I can kind of relate because I've even been in this type of situation where I wasn't keen on a partner wanting drunken sex with me, because it often led to awkward or straight up uncomfortable aftermaths. However, I also realized that part of the reason these situations kept happening was my own participation. I got drunk too, I didn't do anything to discourage the drunken advances on me while I wasn't sober myself. Hell sometimes I drunkenly encouraged it.

I know what a case of rape is. Despite me being drunk with several partners making sexual advances on me, I wasn't raped in any of those instances. Fits the general narrative of what could legally constitute as a rape case, but I was never raped during those times. And I fully understand how my willing participation beforehand (sober or not) led to those uncomfortable events repeatedly occurring.

Culpability, man. I have it no matter how inconvenient it is for me.
That's why partners haven't been afraid to ever call me back...


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chill02 posted...

goldbman posted...

Look at the successful inventors, athletes, artists, etc.

How many are women>?

a lot

Enough about cold hard patriarchal numbers.

Tell us how much you FEEL the amount is.


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Guide posted...

If you need two seats, you should pay for two seats.

Isn't that how a bunch of movie theaters handle it too?
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As soon as I find out a guy is straight, I lose all attraction to him.
Part of it's respect of people's sexuality, but also because experience has taught me it's a dead end.

Tragically there's some guys who still keep trying for a hot hetero man...

One time I had to slap some sense into a queeny ex roommate because he kept flirting with a jacked yet friendly straight guy who clearly had a girlfriend. It was pissing her off and creeping the straight guy out who was too polite to just tell my roommate to go to hell.

So I did it for him. Ironically I was the gay guy he bought drinks for out of thanks.
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kuwab0 posted...

Zack_Attackv1 posted...

Does The Flash constantly have a doofy expression on his face throughout the whole movie

That's an "oh shit, Superman is super fast too" face.
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Theyre young, frustrated white males in their late teens into their early twenties who are having a hard time adjusting to adulthood. Theyre the same kinds of people you find in white supremacy writ large, Beirich said. They have grievances about the world theyve placed onto women and black people.

Unfortunately, media like youtube says otherwise. Bitter misogynistic views are not exclusive to white men at all and it's kind of funny the article even nodded in that direction. There's men of varying races submitting video commentary and angry posts targeted at women daily, just like you can find online examples of women doing the reverse by criticizing men rather harshly as well.

You might be surprised by how far you can push a site's line of rules without getting banned for crossing it. Many sites are either too lenient or have user rules that are easily danced around. Wording an offensive online submission carefully enough to dodge penalties is no longer a gift; it's becoming more and more a public standard with our increasing reliance on web exchanges.

Look at gamefaqs. Sure there's alts that get moderated daily for crossing the line...but they're alts. It's a higher level of dodging penalties. Banning a disposable alt is like hitting Mario when he's riding Yoshi. One Yoshi takes the fall and Mario survives to troll another day on a new Yoshi tomorrow.


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Japan generally doesn't seem to give a fuck about that.
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Not really; it's a common part of how the species continues. Love doesn't contribute to every birth, but the lure of companionship adds some substantial numbers...
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Greetings, individual with acceptable aesthetics. Your arm hairs are looking quite healthy today.
Would you care to dine with me so we may discuss the pleasingly symmetrical shape of your skull?


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I think it's nice when committed relationships continue to work out, but I always brace for the possibility that the couple's first baby will be the inconvenient clusterfuck that splits them apart. Married or unwed, that first baby can be a serious game changer that pushes a couple's limits.

Roles and expectations of each partner can take a dramatic turn after the initial pregnancy. It can change the climate the couple was having the most success within, or worse even eliminate it (a primary factor for break ups/divorce).

That being said, I still cross my fingers that a happy couple will last after becoming parents. I like knowing the child is getting a positive start like that and the couple's efforts will be rewarded for raising a new life into the world.
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If you agree to an open relationship as a man, you're basically accepting those kinds of potential consequences to begin with rofl. Just like women have their own set of potential pitfalls if they agree to their man fucking other partners on the side.

You don't have to be the man in a marriage for the risk of paying child support to a handful of baby mamas becoming a life wrecker. If the man is blowing tons of his $$$ on other women he knocked up on the side, guess which woman is feeling the most cheated out of that money: the wife who was dumb enough to keep him.

Consensual open relationships are fine imo, but don't ever lie to yourself saying it's ideal without any hard-hitting consequences. Any relationship that can result in pregnancies has potential risks...
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rahasperj posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

rahasperj posted...

Nomadic View posted...

You shouldnt do that. Your grade is more important than sticking it to some crazy SJW. Just parrot her nonsense and walk out with your A.

You're right. It's really not worth it. But I think if she likes to express her views, we should express ours.

This might come down to wisdom. You gotta learn to pick your battles. You have more to lose her than she does.

Again you're right, but I still feel like it's wrong just to do what she wants for a grade. :/

I agree with Nomadic and Ash on this instance.
You should be treating your grades as more valuable than wasting your time razzing a potential extremist you don't agree with.

You remember the saying "living well is the best revenge"...?
Pass her class by regurgitating whatever propaganda she wants to hear and get a high grade despite not actually believing any of her biased tripe.

I'm a moderate liberal, but even I can admit a number of my left-leaning college instructors were blatant extremists in their ideologies and curriculum. Instead of worrying about being brainwashed by their political crap or plotting pointless rebellions that put my grade at risk, I just parroted what they wanted to see on my papers and ironically aced their courses.

The best defiance to their political preaching is to forget their opinionated garbage after your have gotten your passing grade and retain your ability to free think. The point is they didn't stop you from obtaining a passing grade despite having beliefs that they would have found offensive. That is your victory...
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Awesome posted...

okay so for the average for a woman to be 168 there must be a crapload of 250 pounders walking around.

Don't be silly.

They're not walking; they're racing scooters through the potato chip aisle of Walmart.
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Hank Azaria agrees to step aside and let an actual Indian/South Asian play Apu

Offer to give up one character to appease complaints, while he continues to voice a dozen other characters.

Smart man.
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You still need to be attractive to some degree to get buried in dick as a gay man.

I'm saying someone...anyone...has to find you hot enough to bang. And it has to be multiple someones. Otherwise you're not getting easy hook ups at all. And for the "gay = easy hook ups" stereotype to apply, you need to fall into categories that a decent portion of gay men find attractive.

And unfortunately, some of those categories are straight up discriminatory. That's not to say it's impossible to get laid every night as a demographic underdog, but you might have to search more or even move locations to have luck as good as those who already fall into the popular picks.

You can literally be born into having shit luck with gay dating if you have too many unpopular traits. It's only "easy" for some.
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Fam_Fam posted...

im a straight male, and i probably would not approach women who are with men. you don't know who is dating who, and i'm generally worried about (a) offending a bf, or (b) getting into a bad situation with guys who are interested in her and also trying to get with her

That's not uncommon despite what media portrays.

It might seem like men in general are thirsty as fuck and prowling around for every attractive woman they can find (that's the popular stereotype), but it's not the actual case. For example, in western nations like the US the amount of men who make a habit of asking out every hot chick on sight make up a very small percentage of the male populous. They're the horndogs of the population; OF COURSE they're going to approach every decent looking woman they can find and it can make it seem like it's all men doing that because a horny guy is always asking random women out in his radius. But in reality it's only a small portion of men.

A larger majority of men prefer to "wait for the right moment" to ask an interesting woman out. They're typically looking for that easy, non-adversarial moment to do it. Because, like you mentioned, they don't want to risk asking the woman out at an awful time and get shot down. Or worse, branded an annoying creep. That's a bummer, a social hazard, and a missed opportunity to connect with someone they're interested in. She could be really engaged in a phone convo, she could be hanging with close friends uninterested in anything else at the moment, she could have had a stressful disaster at work that an average man can't instantly fix, she could be having irritating pains that just flat out make regular introductions and conversation not a priority...and those first impressions are super important. Women have their own lives going on and there's a bunch of inopportune hassles that could turn a guy's innocent approach into more annoying shit hitting the fan. The majority of men know this and instead aim for "a right time". In other words: an easy moment to approach that has minimal risk to backfire.

And there's even a small subset of men, from all ranges of attractiveness (ugly, average, hot) who just flat out never bother approaching women for long or never at all. We just don't pay much attention to them because society assumes the ugly are destined to be single, the average ones aren't significant enough to watch, and the hot ones MUST have a girlfriend somewhere or the universe will collapse. No really, there are some incredibly gorgeous looking straight guys who for whatever reason never focus on dating women as a life goal. They could be super into their careers, ideologically oblivious about female attention, they're more into their bro time or family, or they can be practically asexual as far as urges to date. All these reasons can also be applied to exceptional women with the same behavior. No surprise, it happens with men too. Guys can also get so enveloped in their own lives, they're not paying attention to what chicks are checking them out or even care.

3 distinct subsets of men as far as attractions to women.
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