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Corrik posted...

But, it isn't my kid I guess.

If you're marrying this crazy lady, he will be your kid in some way. You should have a say in it.

Although your say should be "I'm leaving you"
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Plus that just means he'll be a Force ghost in the next movie, probably. Seemed like a perfectly logical path to take for his character.
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To be honest I coulda sworn people were thinking Luke would die in this movie, of course I stayed away from all theories and discussions of the movie prior to seeing it so I dunno. Just seemed like something people would expect.

I certainly wasn't shocked by it. Made sense to me that he exhausted his life force.
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KamikazePotato posted...

People were talking about Han potentially dying pretty much as soon as Harrison Ford was confirmed to be in Episode 7. I don't think it was a huge surprise to people.

The moment Han walked on the catwalk with no handrails it was pretty obvious what was about to happen
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Corrik posted...

This is untrue to my knowledge.

AquaArcane posted...

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith_(species)

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I think it should be up to the kid, if they feel comfortable with the rating and subjecting themselves to things they might not be ready for, then let them.

As a kid I knew what I was comfortable seeing, I didn't watch some R rated movies because I knew they were too graphic for me. As I got older I went back and watched the popular ones I missed out on.

Either way, no parent should ever restrict their child that much. That's just asking for the kid to rebel and that parental relationship will end up really strained.
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http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith_(species)

Sith were a red skinned tentacle faced species before it became the word for Dark Jedi basically

Of course this probably isn't canon anymore but I think it's irrelevant anyway, they don't seem to be using the label at all in the new movies.
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SmartMuffin posted...

It's been what? 15-20 years since the end of ROTJ?

30 years.

I will admit about the Star Wars fanbase, it's ridiculous. I stuck to this board's discussion of it only, because most of the people here are pretty reasonable with their opinions. Like even when we disagree, we're all still pretty civil about it.

I tried venturing over to the Movies board the other day and immediately regretted my decision. I can't even fathom what the Star Wars board looks like right now and I don't even want to attempt looking for myself.
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Kind of a lifeless world

Action looks fun though
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I could vote for a few of those options. Sometimes it takes me 2 minutes, sometimes 10. Rarely any longer than that though.
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He was still really good in the Force, but yeah he was known for his lightsaber skills. The movies didn't portray that well at all.
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Easy cash easy

Reliving the past is something I try to avoid
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Well Anakin never reached his full potential so that's difficult to measure.
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Yoda didn't cast the lightning himself, there was already a storm going on. Yoda just directed one of the bolts from the sky.

That's totally in line with what a Force ghost should be able to do, he's actually one with the Force so directing a force of nature seems appropriate.
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Snoke pretty much insulted Kylo Ren right to his face, basically calling him a piece of shit.

You could tell Kylo didn't like that just from his expression.
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Rey even told her entire plan to Luke, she enthusiastically exclaimed that she could turn Kylo Ren back to the light and that's how they'd win. I didn't feel like she even knew Snoke would be there. At first I thought it was weird she got to the Resistance even though the homing beacon was with Finn on another planet entirely. Then I realized she followed her connection to Kylo, so she had no idea that was even Snoke's ship.

At least that's what it looked like, I felt like I might have missed something. Good thing I'm seeing it twice on Wednesday so I'll be able to get a better look.
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Black with some grey
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Proud of you for completing Frozen Wilds on Ultra Hard. I was only on Hard when I played it, and I couldn't imagine how much more of a challenge it'd be on upper difficulties. I definitely wanna try it one day though.
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I'm thinking now that Kylo is on his own path, he'll find the power he never could when he was listening to people stronger than him. And he'll probably get some grand feats in the last movie.

Or the complete opposite will happen and he'll fail even harder and have no one left to turn to and that's how he ultimately loses.

Either way is fine.
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SmartMuffin posted...

I mean, after all the outcry of VII, I was definitely expecting a scene in this one where Rey got her ass handed to her or fail at something in some pretty spectacular way... and we never really got that at all.

Oh and I'm glad they went this way. Ignoring that outcry was for the best, because it was stupid. The movie clearly showed why Kylo Ren lost, just because some people can't pick up on subtle details doesn't mean movie-makers should lower their own standards for their movies.
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Right, pretty sure Luke wasn't bothered by the power he felt, more worried about the darkness. That was his whole thing at the beginning of the movie, the darkness that he now feared. Rey didn't fear it enough, which is why she dove face first into a hole of dark side energy.
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DeathChicken posted...

I think you're missing the point of Kylo's whole character arc, that he's *supposed* to be the big hero of prophecy whether it's for Light or Dark, but he's not good enough for either. He was too angsty for the Jedi, he couldn't live up to Snoke's standards for evil. Poor dude keeps getting shoved into one side or another's cosmic wish fulfillment and all it's done is make him more and more mad that the universe doesn't work like everyone keeps telling him it does. He is a walking subversion of the whole idea of a Chosen One

That goes in line with his "get rid of the past, kill it if you have to"

Clearly things haven't been working out for him since he's been trying to live up to idols from the past. Now he just wants to do his own thing and break away from everything he's ever been told, which had only led him through countless failure.

The more we talk about him, the more I love this character.
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LeonhartFour posted...

I think the fact that Kylo Ren can never be as strong as he wants to be (which you rarely see from the bad guy because they get plot powers to make themselves seemingly impossible to defeat until the good guy inevitably does defeat them) is an interesting inversion on the formula. Like, you're upset that this isn't following the prescribed formula, and I actually like that they aren't.

This is a good way to look at it too
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I don't feel like that's at all true though. Rey resisted the mind control, because she is powerful in the Force and she was just discovering it. So Kylo was caught off guard, and as you said he's supposed to be too lazy/angry to figure out how to use his own power. Makes sense that if something unexpected like Rey fighting off his mind control were to happen, he wouldn't be well equipped emotionally to adapt to the situation. If he had prepared for that possibility, I'm sure he woulda prevented it.

As of now I don't believe Rey is more powerful than Kylo, she's just gotten lucky and he's been unfortunate because he's arrogant and doesn't think things through.
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Nah that was the point of Rey showing up. That was Snoke's plan to complete Kylo's training.

In a way that's exactly what he did =/
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Kylo had a huge gaping wound from an overly powerful bowcaster. We saw its power on multiple occasions. He's got one of those in his side.

That's why he lost, not because Rey was more powerful. If he was in perfect shape, he wouldn't have even broken a sweat.
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Yeah Luke had full control of their duel on the Death Star. Granted, Vader was very conflicted and probably wasn't trying as hard. Even so, Luke clearly progressed more than anyone had any right to in only a year. And it's not like he went back to Yoda in that time so he was only training himself.

And we have no idea how long will pass between now and the next movie, so Rey will probably have plenty of time to train. She's even got Leia to help her.
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SmartMuffin posted...

Look, I just want a plausible excuse for when Rey eventually wipes the floor with this guy despite having essentially zero training :(

You mean like how Luke easily defeated Vader with minimal training?
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No idea, I honestly love all of them and can't decide which is my favorite. That's always been the case though, so many good characters throughout the movies. Even the prequels have some great characters, the movies just didn't do a great job of portraying them, but thankfully we have the Clone Wars show for that.

I do love Kylo Ren though, I might say he's my favorite. Although I didn't care for his synthesized voice, I'm glad that's gone.
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Nah I'm betting Luke could have deflected all of those laser blasts. I was expecting that to be the case before he was revealed to be a projection.
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I feel like people were expecting Luke to do too much. He's older now, more wise and powerful in the Force, he's basically Yoda. His physical abilities degraded a lot, which is understandable since he's been in exile for years, not training in any way. It would have been pretty ridiculous for him to show up in his X-Wing and start blowing shit up (that's what Poe is for), and dropping down with a lightsaber to skillfully whoop Kylo's ass.

The whole point was to show just how powerful the Force is. That's what I loved about this movie. We got so much expansion on the powers beyond just moving rocks and swinging a lightsaber around.

Didn't even seem like Luke had his lightsaber anymore. He probably threw his green one away, which is why his projection had the blue lightsaber since it's the last one he held--even though it was destroyed, something Kylo knew and didn't even pay attention to when facing Luke because he was so distraught by the presence of the person he despises most.

I'm glad they went the direction they did, the prequels didn't expand on the Force in any way as I had hoped. Yoda and Sidious should have never had lightsabers. They were supposed to be so powerful in the Force that they didn't need 'em.

This new movie gave us so much more to consider. Leia pulling herself through space, Snoke had such mastery that he didn't even have to concentrate since it was just second nature, and of course Luke projecting himself. Something we've never seen before and it just goes to show just how powerful you can really be if you believe and understand the energy that binds us all.
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I'm waiting for more Bad Meets Evil quite honestly

Vegas best song
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I highly doubt they would just not give us any details about him, everybody wants to know where he came from at the very least.

Even if not in the next movie, I'm sure they'll reveal it in some way in the future.
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New album? Shit I'mma have to check that out.

I'll probably like it, since I liked Relapse and everyone apparently hated that one?
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I tried going to the movies board to see what the discussions were like, and I immediately regretted my decision and left.

People will literally find anything to complain about, and I don't get it.
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That moment when Luke and Leia finally see each other again almost brought a tear to my eye

Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher both deserve some kind of award
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I'd be okay with a Rey/Kylo kind of tragic romance thing. He'd keep trying to turn her to his side, she'd fail to do the same and ultimately have to kill him. I dig it.

Could be kinda similar to Jaina/Jacen Solo from the EU
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THEDavyJones posted...

Also I just now got the whole Like force projection thing.

Like I kept trying to think how he was able to lightsaber duel Kylo, then I realized their blades never clashed and he just dodged the whole time.

He literally dodged like twice, I noticed that too. I thought it was weird they weren't clashing but that question was quickly answered.
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Maybe I just want her to be okay and I'll hold onto that hope until there's none left
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Actually the more I think about it, I guess it's less likely now that she's a Skywalker. Otherwise Luke would have acted differently, unless he just plain doesn't know because her birth was hidden from him like his... was hidden from his father.

No yeah still banking on Skywalker.
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Oh and about Rey's origins, we still don't know her last name. So like it or not, that will have to be addressed in the next movie.

Still banking that she's a Skywalker.
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Blue milk!

Callbacks are fun
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god no don't give them ideas for episode IX
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She shouldn't have a love interest though cuz then she just becomes another Disney princess

we don't need that shit in my star wars
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Which was after she kissed the handsome outlaw
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Grand Kirby posted...

Did she seem a bit jealous of how Finn was looking after Rose in the end there? I really hope we don't have some dumb love triangle thing in the next movie.

That was my concern as well

Like I said, Rey doesn't need a love interest. Luke didn't have one, why would Rey
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Oh yeah, I didn't get Holdo's plotline either. I thought she was going to turn out to be a spy for the First Order or something, but nope. She was just a regular ol' Rebel hero.

Although she went out with some style. That part had me like whoa
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LeonhartFour posted...

I didn't have any more trouble understanding Yoda than in any of the other movies.

Also, I liked Finn's sidequest. I don't care if he's essential or not, and I'm fine with getting more of him instead of them killing him off because I like his character a lot.

I could understand Yoda fine as well. I loved when he showed up, I let out an excited gasp when I saw his ears pop up.

Finn was a lot better in this movie, I think. He was less goofy, and he got shit done. Not sure how I feel about Rose and it looks like there may be a love square with Rey and Poe, or some shit. Not looking forward to that, but hopefully it was just my imagination. I don't think Rey needs a love interest at all.
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

Ok you're pushing this really hard so I'm just gonna stop, I stopped it already saying I accept the series as it is.

Sorry didn't mean to seem hostile in any way.

THEDavyJones posted...

I enjoyed how this movie mostly undercut expectations. Sometimes for better (Rey being a nobody), sometimes for worse (Snoke's half-ass death with a lack of explanation to who he is), and sometimes just for shits and giggles.

I assume her parents being no one was to throw us off. I think there's still a secret there. And I'm sure we'll get Snoke's origins in the next movie too, because I'd like to know where the fuck he came from and how he's so powerful in the Force.
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Bane_Of_Despair posted...

That's all guessing though

Not really. Movies should do this more often, actually, show not tell. They clearly showed that Leia is capable of using the Force, so that means she's a Force user. Even if you didn't know that before, you do now. And you can infer that she may have trained a bit in the past 30 years. They don't have to outright tell you.
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