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jews are terrible they get judgey when i eat on yom kippur
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

I don't think anyone's position is "all Jews are great". There's a list of specific Jews you're allowed to dislike that gets sent to all liberals on a weekly basis.

This week's specimen is Peaf
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Of course
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kevwaffles posted...

ChampionCloud posted...

1: who?

Made this weird block looking game a few people played. Crafting in the Mines I think it was called.

Mineycrafta
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#bump#
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No escape.

Shaduln posted...

So FC, I have mixed thoughts.

I really, really enjoyed my time. However, the battle system seemed a little rudimentary. I think the thing I hate the most is you can't choose where to move when you're doing an attack. I like the orbment system though, it's pretty fun.

The story was kind of refreshing. Yes there is a big, overarching story, but it never seemed like it was the focus of the game. The game was more about Estelle and Joshua, which I really liked! Their journey and Estelle's growth during the game was what kept me coming back.

I'm a little ahead of myself, but I think my plan is to go back to a new game plus once I finish the third and 100% the game. I really love the world and can't wait to spend more time in it. It's also why I started SC so quickly.

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At this point of the game, I'm in Grimsel Fortress. Girl power for Estelle and Anelace!

I really like Estelle's new look. Leave it to Schera to make Estelle get a makeover.

Also I called Joshua's "Black Fang" meaning something, but I didn't do it anywhere so I can't prove it.

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One other quick thought: they really upped the music in SC.

And now I got night vision goggles, this game already.

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Alright so I went through some cutscenes and ended with a decision...

Agate
Schera

I chose Agate for a few reasons:

Estelle is so flexible that she's kind of better to be the arts person.
I wanted her to be more familiar with Agate.
It seemed like fun.

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And for the night, I talked to the bracer guild and then got all the side quests and decided it was time for bed.

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So I went to go do the Sapphirl Tower Photo quest.

I looked at a guide when I got at the top to see if there was a specific spot to be in for the best picture.

...Oh. >_>

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Jumped back into it!

So I took care of all of the other side quests instead (looked up Come, Ingredients Hunters to make sure I got all the ingredients). Father Kevin is a good new character, I like him.

Poor Estelle is really pushing through this... Crying at the orphanage... I like how freaked out she is by ghosts though.

Also, Olivier sure knows how to make an entrance, doesn't he?

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I'm in the old schoolhouse now. The riddles remind me of the phantom thief sidequest in FC, except better. I liked it quite a bit.

Fighting the boss in the dungeon now, finding him very easy as I keep interrupting his arts.

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Got to Zeiss yesterday. The change to taking an airship everywhere, even for something as close as Ruan to Zeiss, feels like a real shift to a full bracer. Also, I like those scenes.

Tita was so happy to see Estelle and so sad about Joshua. =(

And now, the adventure continues
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Oh yeah we should wait post VGMC we've probably gonna reach VGM saturation with all this stuff going on
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Tom Bombadil posted...

I vividly remember wondering why we were wasting so much time on it!

I still don't LIKE that part but that was a pretty awesome payoff

Payoff rocked
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Mega Mana posted...

tag

it'll be on discord so theres nothing really to tag
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Would anybody be interested in doing a VGM Guessing Game on Discord sometime? basically i play songs off of a user-submitted list and we try to guess the game and song name, partial points for partial answers. I'd explain (copy-paste) the rules in more detail later.

The length of the games depends on the size of the list. I've already got a list prepared, and other people can submit theirs later if they're interested.

Also DireKrow is running one on Reddit using a different, less-hectic format.

https://www.reddit.com/r/gamemusic/comments/7rcfk8/vgm_quiz_competition_ii_round_5/
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Arti, can I have 312 and you can do 313? 313 has one of my songs in it
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Not enough Shibes.


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WickIebee posted...

Guile has tattoos of American Flags on his arms

I'm pretty sure those are actually birthmarks.

And man, people scorned my rankings?!
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This is an awful thread post more dogs
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WickIebee posted...

Steiner posted...

boy you'll never guess what i misread this title as, what a goof!

That's the point. It's a gauntlet meme because of how similar those two words look to each other.

Get a sarcasm detector
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thats why you gotta #bump#
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what
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Metal_DK posted...

don't give me just some 1 word "wow" crap

I gave you 500 words

You responded "you're right, but anybody that doesn't think the way I do without having provided facts or information must be nuts"

I mean, you can make a case for it. I would probably disagree, but we could have an actual back and forth. But to claim that I didn't generate an actual response to your claim is hysterical.

Metal_DK posted...

"By the time the 1980s came to an end, it was unusual for a household to be without a personal computer"

so what
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also how exactly did personal computers revolution the economy in the 80s
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Metal_DK posted...

NFUN posted...

The 1950's marked the beginning of the Postwar Period of the Western world. The destruction caused by the Second World War provided opportunities for extravagant economic growth in both America in Europe. Almost completely untouched by war, America had an outstanding industrial advantage over war-torn Europe, whose industrial base was nearly demolished. In fact, the demands for military hardware prompted the growth of new factories and industrial methods which were converted post-war to create consumer goods and vehicles. Through the 50's, and to a lesser extent the 60's, the United States was by far the dominant industrial power catering to the demands of the Western World.

Oh don't get me wrong, the fact that the USA didn't get bombed into submission was a major factor for USA dominating in the 50s. It also was the reason why all our infrastructure was in place for us to transition to a less military life. But if you honestly thing the TV and interstate system didnt revolutionize our economy during those decades and open up massive frontiers you are nuts.

wow
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context: the last essay I wrote began "Like much of post-war Europe, Italy was blessed with an economic miracle, a period of unprecedented economic growth that turned the previously agrarian, backwards nation into a fairly prosperous welfare state. Throughout the entiriety of the 1950s, Italy had a booming economy, and the economy grew at a good pace (a few hiccups aside) during the 60s. "
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The 1950's marked the beginning of the Postwar Period of the Western world. The destruction caused by the Second World War provided opportunities for extravagant economic growth in both America in Europe. Almost completely untouched by war, America had an outstanding industrial advantage over war-torn Europe, whose industrial base was nearly demolished. In fact, the demands for military hardware prompted the growth of new factories and industrial methods which were converted post-war to create consumer goods and vehicles. Through the 50's, and to a lesser extent the 60's, the United States was by far the dominant industrial power catering to the demands of the Western World.

Ironically, the destruction also allowed Europe to prosper. To one degree or another, before the war all of Western Europe was deeply behind the times in terms of industrial techniques. Their factories were outdated, their population rural, and it was arguable that the region was even less prosperous and had lower standards of living than it did in 1914; the Continent still hadn't recovered from the last Great War, especially taking into account German hyperinflation in the 1920's and the worldwide Depression in the 30's. Starting from around 1950, most countries of Western Europe experienced Wirschaftswunder, La Trente Glorieuse, the Economic Miracle, as the countries "caught up" to the industrial standards of the time. Economic inequality shrunk as the poorer countries grew at tremendous rates: Italy grew at rates of 6.5-7% per year for a decade, for example, but even wealthier countries such as France grew at an average rate of 5%.

Sure, the US benefited from advertising and television as a wealthier citizenry on both sides of the oceans could better afford the luxury goods advertised, but one large part of this was because of a huge decrease in the costs of food and clothing. I don't remember the exact statistic, but, IIRC, the portion of a typical European family's budget that was dedicated to food and clothing shrunk from over 50% to less than 20%. In general, however, Europe was less enamored with television than was the US, and it didn't begin to take off to any meaningful extend in France or Germany until the 1960's, and the growth of Europe's highways had a different trajectory than that of the US (for example, Germany's Autobahn was built by Hitler).

The prosperity felt by the United States went hand-in-hand with that of Europe. I won't deny that the interstate highway system was a very good thing for the US economy, but to claim that it and television were the main drivers of the mindblowing economic growth the Western world experienced for nearly 30 years post-WW2 is ludicrous.

I didn't use Wikipedia for any of this information besides specific growth rates (I can find sources if you want), but I like how it organizes the reasons for the growth.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post%E2%80%93World_War_II_economic_expansion#Causes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_history_of_the_United_States#Postwar_prosperity:_1945%E2%80%931973

You get one sentence for new products and one for the highway system.

Your article says that people bought houses, vacuum cleaners, TVs, and credit card debt, and I'm sure this was the first or second Google result for "television economy 1950's". My favorite part is that you don't even expound on this, you just toss a link and say "yep".

In conclusion, I don't want to go to sleep.

I'm no economist, but would advertisements, as you theorize, actually even benefit the economy much in this way? They create demand, but the money is going somewhere anyway and a lot of advertising is competitive, trying to get consumers to prioritize one product over another. In any case, that's besides the point.
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Metal_DK posted...

The 50s and 60s saw the superhighway system and rise of TV to revolutionize our economy

no
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LiquidOshawott posted...

I only played a small amount

Joshua is certainly OP

Yep. Any enemy you run into with him is sure to fall with ease
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KCF0107 posted...

I feel bad that I keep getting these Star Control songs

That's cause they're mine and I've been avoiding them
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LeonhartFour posted...

NFUN posted...

Go have bad opinions somewhere else

you already cornered the market with your VGM rankings LOLOLOLO

ECKS DEE
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'I don't know why it got popular."

quality of food doesn't correspond with popularity. Wings became huge, and the common vinegar wing sauce everybody eats it with is terrible.
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GOT PLACES TO GO GOTTA FOLLOW MY RAlNBOW
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as far as I can tell I still double KCF's claims but apparently we're tied?

and I meant for the people claiming things to at least say so on the sheet
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All of you except Rock, Foolmo and Johnbobb are fools. Go have bad opinions somewhere else
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I've no idea who's done what just update the sheet it makes things easier for everyone
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If you feel the need to say "these days", you're old
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Sokka losing his space sword was the saddest part of the series.
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Bela isn't dead.
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LeonhartFour posted...

Yeah, Infinite's Theme was pretty great.

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Honestly if you've got time it would be sick to find a meteorite. They'll be more noticeable in the snow too.

also a meteor exploded above Detroit
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Raka_Putra posted...

Hot Pockets have problems too! They're just like you only they're hot.

Wow. What a throwback.
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Even God is trying to destroy that city now
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Dantezoid posted...

I give steinershocker all four titles

fuck
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King: Steiner
Queen: Steiner
Knight: Steiner
Jester: Stevie
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I've got 6 blocks KCF and you have 3. Claim whatever
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TheRock1525 posted...

CARLSON: Whatever its effects, it has not made women happier the last 50 years. I mean, theres been a longitudinal study on this and American women have not become happier.

If he knows what a longitudinal study is he should know about baseline happiness or whatever the term is I forgot. Basically people tend to remain at a relatively constant level of happiness despite major changes in their lives
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azuarc posted...

That's a, uh, interesting top few.

hey, you predicted two of them, one was Pokemon, and I will defend Gokinjo and Sophisticated Fight to my death.

Part of the reason I found it so difficult to organize the top 5 was because it was so fucking eclectic and the songs were all in such different styles
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what a stupid comment you prob thought it was funny
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lets go baby
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This was a ton of fun! I've heard so much great music from games I've never even heard of, and now I'm getting really interested in videogame music. It's nice to know this topic sparked another (one that will have much more interesting writeups), and I plan on doing another, more ambitious ranking this summer.

Make sure to vote in azuarc's reverse ranking topic and give Wickle and Quinton the support they deserve aka give quinton all of it.
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Final Stats:

User: Score/Position

MycroProcessor: 44.4/86.6
Snake5555555555: 54.8/73
Wicklebee: 57/81.5
Shonen_Bat: 58.2/66
LeonhartFour: 64.2/64.8
WhiteLens: 64.8/67
RySenkari: 66/62.4
Simoun: 66.6/58.6
EmeraldEgg: 67.4/57.8
Logicblade: 67.6/52.8
Zyxyz0: 68.8/54.2
FL81: 70.6/52.4
Raka_Putra: 71/48.8
azuarc: 73/45.8
pyresword: 74.4/47.6
Murphiroth: 74.8/41.4
dowolf: 76.6/37.8
Pirateking2000: 76.8/34
DragonImps: 77/30.5
NBIceman: 77.33333333/36
arti: 80.6/32
Janus5k: 83/23.5
trdl23: 85/12
iiicon: 86/16.66666667

Mega Man won the prediction game with 45 points. Azuarc had 28, Snake 14 and Shonen_Bat 5. Since they participated and why not, Mana, Azuarc and Snake can add me on Steam to get a copy of Crypt of the Necrodancer (or the DLC if they have it) when it's on sale i meant to buy them all copies to give now during the winter sale but steam wouldnt let me oops because music.

I put a histrogram of the score distribution on the spreadsheet, as well as the average scores/placements and all of the writeups. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1trI8KljOTv8KpF5nYv_QvCW6K1XQxIQ0mFsb39QJKJU/edit?usp=sharing
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#1
Nominator: dowolf
Gokinjo Boukentai (Neighborhood Adventure Squad) - Normal Battle

100/100

This song fucking rocks. It's so fun and interesting, and the silly instruments just add to it. It's like the joy of Sophisticated Fight was mixed with the chaos of Team Plasma Battle. This was one of the first nominations but I listened to it nearly daily since I first heard it. Like I said, there was a lot of indecision upon the exact placement of these songs, but this one was probably doomed to #1 early. This placement was irrevocable when it showed up in the VGM Guessing Game and I realized how excited I was for such an obscure, great song to show up. I think one of the comments describes my feelings best: "Youtube now almost exclusively recommends me weird Japan-only RPG music but I frankly couldn't be happier"
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