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Ultimaterializer posted...

Lopen is factually lying about Han btw. I read that exchange.

Heres the problem. Lopen annoying the shit out of someone hes tunneling is his town game. 100%.

I also agree this is probably a town squabble.

##unvote
##vote: Corrik

I tried and no one seems to be interested in moving votes and its frustrating.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Says the guy I made a case on being recruited :smirk:

I'd 100% love to be recruited into the cult, I think it would be fun.

Alas, I am not in the cult.

That was the scummon of all scummons.

Lets just kill Corrik for this?

We aren't hunting recruits. Hitting recruits is anti-town. We need to hit scum and cult leader.

It is beyond time for timestamps. If you don't think I keep a tab of everyone's gamefaqs profile open sometimes I have news for you.

I'm going to reiterate a reasonable assumption that ulti is here and choosing to let town eat itself.

He likely sent his scan to scum in all likelihood. So someone he trusted is probably scum.

chang is probably the innocent party if the neighbors were a scum gambit.

Corrik7 posted...

So, a guy's role whose flavor said he was accidentally left in from another game as a joke, has flavor from a completely different game, also cannot be a red herring for cult existing and has to be absolute instead of misdirection?

Yes.

Hbthebattle posted...

lopen is very obviously town, but unfortunately town lopen always chases false leads far too hard

This is an accurate depiction of my thoughts right now. Though not necessarily as rock solid a read as I'd like it is exactly where my mind sits on him right now.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

If he's Scum, then his Scumbuddies are people he doesn't like. Or he thinks his win condition is impossible and isn't going to try.

We know theres a cult. This necessitates a smaller than usual scumteam. I don't imagine any side looks great on the surface.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

That's not what you did, you asked why I thought Ulti was Town. If you had an issue with the logic, you could have just said so.

I believe I expanded on this like a minute after.

45 minutes or so.

Or lets just all come together and kill corrik because hes not even trying to try.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Actually, it's a good premise. You faking activity by asking me a question you've already seen the answer to, now that sucks, Red

Telling you that your whole premise is bad is not fake activity. You are letting someone coast on an innocuous comment that never carried any substance or alignment lean.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Well gee Red, I would go into detail but I've already explained my stance on this pretty clearly.

Your stance is on a bad premise. It sucks.

Ulti didn't draw any attention with a made up cop scan. Its a dumb argument. No negative attention anyway. Just town drawing wasted conclusions so he could sit back and do nothing.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Yeah, I think Ulti is Town,

why?

I mean, I could have bought that he was one of those on day 1. I don't know that I'd buy it day 2. Corrik tends to tip his hand when he snags any sort of information to try to make others look stupid(Which makes others not believe him).

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Corrik hasn't done a whole lot and I have no reason to defend him but he claimed best girl. Also, it seems weird for you to be pushing him when you pointed him out as being a hiding Doc/Cop.

I don't think Sena would be a Doc or Cop.

That was me just poking for a potential reaction and the like. Maybe drop that into scums head.

I don't necessarily think hes necessarily cop or doc. Particularly with cop(?) flipped.

i dont know why we'd consider han or death with ulti/corrik clearly in the background offering...no opinion on anything.

##Vote: Ulti

I think scum sbell pretty much requires scum ulti.

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changmas posted...

red - red doesn't say a lot on day 1 but imo posts like 1.368 just sound like town red to me. he's acting as a steering force and that's a good thing for him

I'm not going to say I'm not town because that'd be dumb and a lie but I definitely haven't had the will to keep up anything that I'd call a steering force.

Jump in at the oddest middle of the night hour and see a bunch of recent joke posts.

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Relay Trial In-Progress Codes:
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291K521 -This one went bad but looks winnable with units on field now
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5WF0PPC - This one looks like hell. But the catch is it is a survive chapter. Your goal is keep Alear in the corner and survive with your 3 units for two turns.

Would appreciate anyone that would be willing to pop into these and complete them.

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Death (Puss in Boots 2: The Last Wish)
Mr. Wolf (The Bad Guys)
Diane Foxington (The Bad Guys)
Blaidd (Elden Ring)

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PunishedBen posted...

This kinda reads like a frustration post.

What the hell. I know I've been scum like once ever in the past however many years, but you guys literally saw my entire team die on day 2 and I didn't fucking flinch.

Delibird

TeamRocketElite posted...

I think it is a few years old now.

Its probably been 10 years since I had a moderated message?

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Nidorino

That was definitely not a category the last time I got a moderated message.

In agreement that Minions is better than a lot of these, somehow...

Corrik going full derail mode near end of day for fun it seems.

UnderUrMattress posted...

I don't really have any specific agenda for this game beyond what I normally

How boring.

Also not the first time I've ended Christmas depressed. Usually a similar issue. When you are raised to be dirt cheap you get uncomfortable asking for anything. And when you get uncomfortable you end up with a hard time letting any of your wants and interests out. It was great getting money and gift cards when I was a teen but as an adult a pile of money you don't need feels impersonal and soulless. Being much older and self-sufficient now its usually less of a problem, but it still crops up every now and then like tonight.

I enjoy Christmas to meet up with some of my cousins(Not all the same ones my parents showered with money, though I don't mind them either, they are typically a younger age group) and we talk about nerd things and play Smash and whatever little tabletop games one of my cousins brings over. But if I start thinking about all the material things involved over the years it ends up mostly unpleasant.

Sorry for storytime I'm feeling a little crappy.

So my mom bought me an Authentic Dodgers All-Star Jersey. Expensive($450). This should be great for me, right? Well, it isn't.

So these jerseys went on sale mid-July, fairly limited stock. I'd wanted one since the game was announced here in 2018. Well, they went on sale, my mom picks up on it first(I'm not a morning person), wakes me up in a panic to help buy jerseys for my cousins because no one in my family is computer literate enough to do internet transactions(Make sure its the right player on the back, create accounts to order, etc). She was buying ours too. In all this eventually I realize they are the replica jerseys(About a third cheaper). I really, really, really wanted the authentic, this was supposed to be something special and not a cheap knockoff. But I'm more than conditioned to not ask for anything and wasn't sure how to ask(I was fully prepared to buy my own prior). I didn't want to say I didn't want the jersey, and my mom was already paying for my cousins to go to the game for some reason($1000 apiece, x2).

I'll maybe get into this more here, but I'm always very privately annoyed at my parents when they make sure my cousins get things they want(And spend money for them). I lived my childhood basically conditioned to ask for nothing, expected to live dirt cheap. So I make what is one of the worst decisions in my life and stay quiet for a bit. The orders for the replicas were already in by the time I got any word in, long after the struggle to get orders for the rest of my family.

I wasn't even sure the orders were able to be cancelled. I sat on it, looked at the replicas, decided they'd be nice but I'd literally had my heart set on an authentic all-star jersey for almost 4 and a half years. I'd talked to so many people about how I'd had money just sitting there ready to purchase it when it became available. I researched to make sure the replicas could be cancelled and the authentics still orderable. They were, great. It takes some time to whip up the courage to ask, but I tell my mom that I really wanted the authentic even though it was a lot more expensive. Cancelled, ordered, done great.

Except it wasn't. MLB and their partner in Fanatics suck. My cousins and everyone else got their replicas, but weeks later my jersey never came. And eventually got an email saying my order could not be fulfilled and was cancelled. I was devastated, like, crying in bed devastated. I had been looking forward to having an all-star jersey for over 4 years more than anything and now I had nothing, couldn't even order a replica at this point either. Just completely hung out to dry. Anyone that delayed more than a few hours in ordering, cancelled. Yes, my fault for not speaking up, but this is where things get complicated.

Anyway, why does getting a jersey now suck? Well, the only authentic jerseys left are...blank. They have the team name on the front and nothing on the back. I had ordered a Kershaw jersey, hes a future hall of famer, those jerseys never go out of style. You can't wear a blank jersey, especially not the all-star variants. They all look exactly the same from the back, you can't tell at all what you are repping. They are only $20 less but significantly bland(And missing a patch that would signify all-star appearance number for the player). This becomes a big purchase that you basically can never take out of the closet.

As for old wounds, I mentioned this earlier, my parents basically raised me to have trouble spending money. When I was a young kid they had no money, but my grandparents did. But I was never allowed to ask for anything. I watched my cousins ask and get everything they wanted. Game consoles, cars, all sorts of whatever they wanted. Hell even going out for food I was pretty much trained to pick things on specials and just order a meal while my cousins would load up on appetizers and whatever. I was allowed to ask for reasonably priced things for Christmas and birthdays. My parents would spend bare minimum on me. This shit latches onto you. I still have a hard time spending anything. I irrationally worry about spending money and penny pinch. Anything not a necessity causes me a bit of agony to spend money on. Things that are a want, like say, a jersey, take a lot for me to feel comfortable buying. Even when they are the thing I wanted more than I've basically wanted anything in awhile.

Other part of this, my whole life, my parents liked to fake like they werent poor to others. They'd pay for meals when out to eat with others, they'd buy all my cousins all the shit they asked for when they were taking care of them(Fast food, etc, while I was trained to mostly eat at home). Nevermind that they were nicer to other peoples kids(I was expected to be perfect or else). As I got older my parents stopped being poor, but I was older(Say, 15+). But I always had little cousins, and I'd watch my parents buy them all sorts of shit(A couple of cousins would get things like handheld game consoles and shit on a whim). Yeah it made me fucking bitter. I still couldn't bring myself to ask for anything, what at that point felt like a lifetime of conditioning to not ask for shit doesn't go away. At this point I was trained to budget money I received for BDays and Christmas to fund my video games. But I still got and still get that feeling that is part jealousy part bitterness. Hell my parents spending money to send my cousins to the all-star game, even adjusting for inflation, is more than they ever spent on a single non-necessity for me(Okay, they did this once, but also for something I didn't ask for and something that brought them nostalgia for my childhood. It probably made them feel better than it made me feel. It mostly just made me feel uncomfortable that they spent that much money).

Look, I made peace with the fact I didn't get the jersey I had my damn heart set on. I didn't want a lesser one. I know it was my fault. I'm going to look at it and just remember it as the time I didn't get something that I really wanted. I don't think it can even be taken back. But it makes me real fucking bitter. I know why I am the way I am with money, I cant fucking change it. But also sometimes my parents try to make up for a shit childhood throwing things at me without bothering to know me. The money spent on the jersey could have been spent on something I really want that would have made me feel good. And I know it sounds a little selfish and stupid, but staring at the jersey in the bag just makes me feel shitty for being the way I am and regretful that I didn't get the thing I really wanted.

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