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This has been my go to for slow days at work for the last week

Although I was definitely riding the high of winning constantly at first and now as it gets more complicated I'm losing way more

Outlier Ranking
rockus: 187
Poke: 178
plasma: 177
ssbm: 166
Mythiot: 159
Snake: 154
Karo: 152
John: 149
Vis: 146
seginus: 142
Tangy: 130

ssbm
Rating: C

This movie is fun, but man, I wish there was more to it. I think it needs to be a series. All of the characters are good in concept, but just feel lacking in execution. Not because of their style or content. There's just not enough time to go over all of them thoroughly. I'll start with Colin. Colin's a good antagonist, but he's just...go-go-go, all the time. We never really see him reflect or introspect. Hell, we never even really see why he's so loyal to Frank. Is it from that one bag of groceries he gets as a kid? Why is he the one to murder Frank once he learns he's an informant? I always assumed it was because he was scared of getting his identity revealed, but again, we don't really get a sense of who he is.

Billy is pretty good. I think he gets just enough development. There's just a couple of things I have with him. Undercover cop plots really need to sell me on how they become part of the mafia. I know Billy had an "in" through his relatives, but everyone in Boston seems to know that Billy is "formerly" a cop. And it just seems to be accepted that he's left that life behind. It just nags at me. More problematic is his affair with Madolyn. I don't know why Madolyn cheats on Colin for Billy. Billy and Madolyn had zero chemistry on-screen and that's not even touching the problem of sleeping with a patient. Also, Madolyn has a boyfriend at the company too. It's baffling.

Frank is good. From what I can tell, I like Jack Nicholson's performance of him than the average person. "She fell funny" is a line I reference a lot and, of course, the rat scene is good. I wish we had more time to simmer with his reveal that he's an FBI informant before he dies. Dignam is another character that I seem to differ on the average person. I cannot stand Dignam. I don't know why he just fucks with Billy hardcore, especially considering Billy seems to be one of the few guys on his squad. Dignam's shown to be loyal but he's just a complete asshole to his soldiers. It's just off-putting. I can understand Dignam's abrasiveness if Billy fucks up or towards other cops like Colin, but "an asshole" is just his personality. I'm usually fine with this, but not with Dignam. Maybe it's because I hate Wahlberg.

This sounds like a really negative write-up. I still enjoyed The Departed a lot! It's a fun movie. The pacing's good. The plot's dynamic. The twists hit you hard. And the ending, starting with Colin and Billy meeting for the first time, is very memorable. I will say that this movie is more style than substance for all the reasons I listed above. It's not that there's no substance. I just wish there was more to this than just a movie.

Fun fact: I think this is the only movie to have cell phones in this entire list.

Poke
It's another solid entry in the Scorsese filmography. A cat-and-mouse, twists and turns, solid cast. Even though he probably should have been rewarded ages ago, it makes sense he got the Best Director Oscar for this.

Snake
I have a love/hate relationship with this film. On one hand, it's an incredibly engrossing drama, but on the other hand I was irritated the entire time because it's so choppily edited. Still, Mark Wahlberg and Jack Nicholson make a surprisingly winning team as the dynamic duo of the film, and its themes of distrust make for a surprisingly potent crime epic post-9/11.

Karo
So this is the silly story of an undercover cop in the mob and an undercover rat in the police force who are both trying to find the identity of the other. But wait, there's more! The pair end up falling in love with the same girl who also happens to be the psychiatrist to both of them! Are you serious right now.
Unfortunately it isnt just the premise of the movie that is stupid, the characters and dialogue are also equally if not more so.
Everyone talks like an internet troll trying to dunk on n00bs with some 'sick burns', and it is always nothing but pure cringe. The writers might think this is like really really witty or something, but it is just childish, and it makes the characters seem childish.
Scorsese's most irritating directing habit is the random jukebox thing he does and how it is often plastered right over dialogue so it feels like someone on the set left their radio on and they forget to edit it out. In this film it seems much worse than usual and greatly detracts from several scenes is particular.
The only thing the may have departed is Scorsese's mental faculties because christ almighty what the hell happened here.

6. The Departed (2006)
Directed by: Martin Scorsese
Runtime: 2h 31m
Score: 127

Vis: 1
Tangy: 3
plasma: 5
seginus: 9
rockus: 11
John: 12
Myth: 12
ssbm: 15
Poke: 16
Snake: 18
Karo: 25

Vis
This was a great movie, with just the right amount of comedy and seriousness in tone to make it fly by. Just the concept of two guys, both attending the police academy, getting recruited to serve as a rat in the Massachusetts State Police, and a rat in Frank Costellos organized crime ring, and trying to outmaneuver one another, is pretty amazing. Just watching that chess match play out, while Frank Costello himself is this scumbag FBI informant (despite his mob boss status) was awesome. You grow to love DeCaprio is his role, and think Matt Damon is a smug prick throughout the movie, who totally deserved his ass beating from Mark Wahlberg. Im the guy who does his jawb. You must be the otha guy. is a quality comeback as well. Just the level of Boston dont give a fuck attitude in this movie makes it a joy to watch, and Im honestly surprised at just how many strong showings this ranking has had, even going into the modern era.

Tangy
The Departed is always going to be fondly remembered for me as one of the films that got me into cinema in the first place. I remember just finding a DVD of it around my parents place and popped it in. I was immediately drawn in by the fantastic performances of DiCaprio, Damon and Nicholson, but its the brilliant dichotomy between the two leads that keep me coming back. Seeing the different ways all these characters interact and backstab each other is so interesting to me. Its kinda funny seeing everybody hate on rats, when every single one of these characters is a rat one way or another. These are the best kind of thrillers for me too, because it boils down to a race on figuring out who uncovers who first, it just naturally creates tension. I also love that even though Damon won he still gets foiled as a result of underestimating his wife. Its a very fitting end to such a scummy character. All around a fantastic movie that I can come back to time and time again.

plasma
Without question, my favorite Scorsese movie on this list. The story itself is mind-bendingly complex, with every major character juggling a double-life. Titanic Guy plays a good guy posing as a bad guy; Matt Damon plays a bad guy posing as a good guy; Nicholson is in bed with the FBI; the therapist is in bed with both leading men; and Mark Wahlberg hides in plain sight as a lawful asshole until its revealed at the end that hes a corrupt asshole. Love it. I need to watch this one again.

What makes The Departed so damn fun is that nearly every scene contains layers of irony. You have to root both for and against the protagonists, which keeps your brain busy. Often these types of stories can get tiresome or confusing, but The Departed is told with gusto and clarity. It kicks along at a steady pace, never hits a hard lull, and knows when to come up for air and reestablish what the characters want.

My only complaint is that there are some late-game plot conveniences. Titanic Guy being right-place-right-time during Martin Sheens death was the most notable one. There were other smaller issues around that time, but the story finished strongly despite them. I especially liked that there wasnt an obvious payoff with the love triangle. Instead of a predictable bare-knuckle brawl between Titanic Guy and Damon, we see layers of Damons identity get stripped away as he loses the respect of his girlfriend. Great subversion.

And how about the ending? Everybody kills everybody like in a Shakespearean Tragedy. Liar shoots liar shoots liarand yet theres an ugly honesty to their actions. A

seginus
Stacked cast, story packed with twists. It benefits from being my first Scorsese and the only movie on the list I actually saw in theaters. I'll always remember the audience collectively gasping at the moment when Martin Sheen's character gets thrown off the roof, and as he fell everyone was so quiet you could hear a pin drop. Still haven't seen Infernal Affairs (I know, I know) but I've watched this one half a dozen times since. One thing I noticed this time I thought was silly, is that it seems like the only woman character is a psychiatrist just so that we can explore the male characters more. It's quite convenient! Lots of people have talked about the undercover gay subtext in this one, I can see that angle. But I'm still just enjoying the spy vs. spy tension and ridiculous bickering between Wahlberg and Baldwin.

rockus
A great example of a remake that is probably as good, if not better than the original. At least maybe, considering its been a while since Ive seen Infernal Affairs. Scorsese relocates the Hong Kong narrative pretty seamlessly to Boston. Nicholson is having a lot of fun in perhaps his last great role and it might be my favorite DiCaprio performance. I remember seeing this in theater twice and both times there were collective gasps and stunned silence in all the right place making for a rather memorable theater going experience.

John
I considered trying to include Infernal Affairs on this list, but it ultimately missed the slot due to a combination of the limited room and the much more heavily recognized (in the west, anyway) remake coming so soon after the original (as opposed to something like the Scarfaces, where there's 50+ years of difference between the two). In hindsight, I do kind of wish I'd made room for it. Perhaps it'll pop up on a future list. Regardless, The Departed is great, and there's no question why it got the acclaim it did. It took an already excellent gangster story, put it under the lens of Martin Scorsese, and then wove it all between the unforgettable four-pack of three of the country's best working actors and also Marky Mark. I mean, the whole thing is just expertly crafted on every level. Everyone betrays everyone, nobody can be trusted, and we're at Hamlet levels of main character fatalities by the end.

man four weeks of Duke Ellington, Arctic Monkeys, Alanis Morisette and then Black Sabbath is an excellent month of albums

THPSthree

ELIMINATED
[2] The Devil (Bedazzled)

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Black Phillip

UNSAFE [2]
[2] Black Phillip (The VVitch)
[2] The Devil (Bedazzled)

updating now

For what it's worth I fully didn't intend on playing Snap more than like a few days

Legitimately surprised how addictive of a game it is

Lou

Note: gonna be away for much of tonight so might not be able to update until pretty late

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UNSAFE [16]
[0] Beelzebub (Darkwing Duck)
[0] Black Phillip (The VVitch)
[0] Dark Prince/Satan (Puyo Puyo)
[0] Diablo (Diablo)
[0] HIM (The Powerpuff Girls)
[0] Lou (Guitar Hero 3)
[0] Lucifer (Supernatural)
[0] Mephisto (Marvel Comics)
[0] Ned Flanders as the Devil (The Simpsons Treehouse of Horror)
[0] Pac-Devil (Pac-Man World Rally)
[0] Robot Devil (Futurama)
[0] Satan (Haxan)
[0] Satan (Paradise Lost)
[0] Satan (South Park)
[0] The Devil (Bedazzled)
[0] The Devil (Charlie Daniels - The Devil Went Down To Georgia)

ELIMINATED
17. Dark Heart (Care Bears Movie II: A New Generation)
18. Lucifer (Helltaker)
19. Zorc Necrophades (Yu-Gi-Oh!)
20. Devimon (Digimon)
21. Chernabog (Fantasia)
22. Sadao Maou (The Devil is a Part-Timer)
23. Beelzeboss (Tenacious D in the Pick of Destiny)
24. Satan (Ghosts n Goblins)
25. The Devil (Cuphead)
26. Devil (Tekken 2)
27. Satan (The Binding of Isaac)
28. Mundus (Devil May Cry)
29. Satan (Dante's Inferno)
30. Minion (Twisted Metal)
31. Icon of Sin (DOOM)
32. Beelz (Stephen Lynch - Beelz)
33. Dabura (Dragonball Z)
34. Satan (Persona)
35. Satan (Cygames)
36. The Devil (Slingo)
37. The Ruler of Heck (Rockos Modern Life)
38. The Red Guy (Cow and Chicken)
39. Giratina (Pokemon)
40. The Devil, y'know, from The Bible (SnapCube's Real Time Fandub of Shadow the Hedgehog)
41. Satanael (Persona)
42. Blackheart (Marvel)
43. Shinnok (Mortal Kombat)
44. Truck Satan (Clustertruck)
45. Rodin (Bayonetta)
46. Louisa Ferre (Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey)
47. Lucifer Morningstar (Lucifer TV series)
48. Lucifer (Persona)
49. Lucifer/The Devil (The Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil)
50. Darkness (Legend)

Opening diner scene is still so so good and tells you so much about all the characters. Just does an incredible job foreshadowing and setting the scene for the rest of the film

Holy shit 3000 lmao

South
TMNT

I'd take either of the top two over the bottom two though

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Stupid idea: rank Michael Bay films

I've heard worse ideas!

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Pokmon Legends: Arceus - 5.05 (11 votes)
Pokmon Sun & Moon - 5.05 (11 votes)

wild

I was thinking American Psycho was Snake's #1

that's top 3 at least

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Jak

Outlier Ranking
rockus: 182
plasma: 176
Poke: 168
ssbm: 157
Mythiot: 153
John: 143
Snake: 142
Vis: 141
seginus: 139
Karo: 133
Tangy: 127

Karo
A group of men named after primary colors (and one hair color) plan a bank robbery that goes horribly wrong and the story mostly deals with the aftermath.
The movie does a good job of presenting the characters in a way you can get a good feel for who they are, as well as keeping the identity of the traitor well hidden. Though I have no clue why Mr Blue even existed, the guy is so inconsequential he doesnt even get an on-camera death.
It is a very Tarantino kind of thing, and if you like a Tarantino kind of thing you will like this. I wouldn't really consider this one of his best movies though.

seginus
Tarantino does the most with the least here, crafting a tightly wound mafia game that sustains the tension of a man bleeding to death the entire time. There's an interesting romantic overtone between Roth/Keitel, and Buscemi's opinionated cynic act was great. I loved how it got meta when Mr. Orange was rehearsing his bogus story and within that story, there was another cop telling a story in the background. At times the dialogue sounds like it's trying too hard to be badass but it's balanced by all the times where it's almost deliberately uncool - opening with the gangsters arguing about Madonna and tipping at breakfast does a lot to undercut the tough guy fronts they put on. Which itself is kind of cool.

Vis
I enjoy this movie well enough, and I think its well-made, but the things that holds it back for me is that its largely a movie of dialogues and monologues, but it doesnt feel like we ever REALLY get to know any of the characters on a personal level. Yes, we get some flashback scenes for Mr. White, Mr. Orange, and Mr. Blonde that establish their characters in the past, but even then, its largely related to their abilities and criminals, rather than as individual people. Im just saying that, for a movie that is meant to be largely character-driven, given the format of the scenes, I just wish wed gotten a little bit more content from the characters, so the conversations they were having would carry more weight. Specifically, I wish wed gotten more from Mr. Orange and Mr. White to explain exactly why Mr. Orange was so onboard with protecting Orange over his long-time buddy.

Still, despite that criticism, the concept and plot of the move was really good. A heist-gone-wrong dealing with the aftermath is interesting. Having the characters realize that they were set-up and ratted out is interesting. Mr. Pink is the best character in the movie, because hes energetic, but hes also trying to be rational throughout the course of the film. Everyone else plays emotionally (or psychotically), and it leads to their downfall. You only guy who plays it smart is also the only one who manages to escape with his blood still securely inside his body. I think overall, this is a solid effort from Quentin Tarantino as one of his earlier works, but you can tell from later entries in his filmography that hes learned how to improve his directorial craft. Still fun, but weve seen better.

plasma
As the biggest hater of Steve Buscemi on this entire planet, I expected Reservoir Dogs to land hard in my Bottom 5. You have to understand, I fucking despised this movie the first time I watched it back in 2014. I didnt give a wet shit about the characters, the entire robbery felt uninspired, and the flashbacks were a drag. It felt like I had watched an adaptation of a college freshmans first-ever creative writing assignment: stylish along the surface, yet empty underneath.

But what a difference a rewatch makes. This time things clicked. Not in a OMGZ, this is one of the best movies of the 90s! kind of way but in a This isnt a bad way to spend 100 minutes on Labor Day weekend kind of way. My aforementioned gripes about the characters, plot, and structure dissolved by the time Mr. Blond arrived at the hideout.

And thenthings tapered off. The second half sputtered along with a series of backstory episodes, building toward the iconic Mexican standoff and the conclusion of Mr. White and Mr. Oranges touching love story.

Rather than hating this one, Im now lukewarm on it. The characters and scenario are more interesting on a second viewing, the performances are great (even Buscemi!), and the dialogue absolutely snaps. But, still, at its core this movie feels hollow to me. Strip away the style and dialogue, and youre left with the aftermath of a botched jewelry store robbery, starring a bunch of two-dimensional morons. C

rockus
A fine example for a directorial debut. A stripped down crime caper that plays to Tarantinos strengths, especially as a writer, but also exercises his talents for structuring, blocking, and utilizing a small number of locations as a director. Taking a pretty straight forward heist plot and flipping it around to deliver it in a fresh and inventive way. His talents for writing dialog and memorable characters offers a great showcase for his ensemble cast who all, outside of Tarantino himself, knock it out of the park.

7. Reservoir Dogs (1992)
Directed by: Quentin Tarantino
Runtime: 1h 39m
Score: 129

Snake: 1
Poke: 6
John: 8
Myth: 9
Tangy: 11
ssbm: 12
Karo: 14
seginus: 15
Vis: 16
plasma: 18
rockus: 19

Snake
Is this the greatest movie ever made? Why yes, yes it is. Its a film that revolutionized movie dialogue for the better - mixing pop culture references and irreverence to create the snappiest and most digestible dialogue around. The film goes down like a stiff drink, in all the best ways - where the violence and dialogue each feel strong in separate ways. Its decision to not show the heist, a result of budgetary restriction, was a stroke of genius, as the film transforms itself into becoming a sort of commentary on masculinity, thievery & crime, and the very acts of violence shown so prominent in film, gaming, and TV. It pulls no punches, and I respect it immensely for that. Its a film that shows restraint, knowing what you dont see is often more terrifying than what you dont. Just like any good horror movie, Reservoir Dogs bills itself on ultimate tension, and as the flashbacks around the heist intertwine and interconnect you feel like a detective, putting the pieces together on exactly who these characters are and what the hell actually happened. Its so good, and Im always redrawn into the story based on just how well everything is told, combined with the jaunty soundtrack and brisk pace.

Poke
Tarantino's dialogue is always a treat. From the opening scene to the commode story. The interplay with all of the coloured Misters. It's got the iconic ear-cutting while grooving to "Stuck in the Middle with You." A classic.

John
They call Buscemi gay slurs and make fun of him for being Mr. Pink meanwhile Mr. Orange is sitting right next to him, an entire dreamboat. I mean ACAB of course but goddamn.

Myth
In his debut film, Tarantino makes the most of his small budget and creates an extremely entertaining and tense mystery-thriller that mostly takes place in one location. Much of his trademarks come into play: sharp witty dialogue, obscure pop-culture discussions, gruesome violence, and excellent style. Who doesnt love the title sequence where theyre all walking in slo-mo while Little Green Bag plays? Personal favorite of the cast is Steve Buscemi at his best and Buscemiest trying to figure out who the rat is.

Tangy
This movie is literally just Tarantino writing dialogue for an hour and a half, but I dont care! The fact that you can sit there and be invested in a conversation at a coffee shop is insane. The man is a magnificent writer and he only gets better going forward. Thats ultimately the movies problem though compared to his other films, this movie almost feels like its lacking an identity. Especially when compared to its direct follow up

ssbm
Rating: C+

This is one of the movies I watched beforehand. Part of me wonders how high I would have ranked it, not knowing who the rat is and finally learning who it is as the movie goes on. I love the present-day scenes, but not so much the backstories of all the characters. I like Mr. Orange's scenes of getting into the gang and I think a few quick scenes establishing Mr. White and Mr. Blonde's loyalty to Nice Guy Eddie are good. But I feel like a lot of Mr. Blonde's backstory could be cut and especially the scenes of Mr. Orange getting shot don't really need to be seen. But this is a fairly brisk movie and I'm honestly surprised how quickly the movie goes once we learn who Mr. Orange is.

I really enjoy the ending of this, as weird as the showdown between Nice Guy Eddie, Mr. White, and Joe is. We never learn who shoots Nice Guy Eddie! But yeah, Mr. White and Mr. Orange do a great job with this movie. And, of course, Mr. Pink is just a delight whenever he talks. I also really enjoy the intro scene with Mr. Orange screaming about how he's dying and Mr. White needs to calm him down.

would've saved Dark Heart but wanted Lou to be safe first

ELIMINATED
[2] Dark Heart (Care Bears Movie II: A New Generation)

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People always talk about left and right, but let's talk about the other equally relevant dynamic.

UNSAFE [7]
[1] Dark Heart (Care Bears Movie II: A New Generation)
[2] Dark Prince/Satan (Puyo Puyo)
[2] HIM (The Powerpuff Girls)
[2] Lou (Guitar Hero 3)
[2] Lucifer (Supernatural)
[2] Robot Devil (Futurama)
[1] The Devil (Bedazzled)

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UNSAFE [17]
[0] Beelzebub (Darkwing Duck)
[0] Black Phillip (The VVitch)
[0] Dark Heart (Care Bears Movie II: A New Generation)
[0] Dark Prince/Satan (Puyo Puyo)
[0] Diablo (Diablo)
[0] HIM (The Powerpuff Girls)
[0] Lou (Guitar Hero 3)
[0] Lucifer (Supernatural)
[0] Mephisto (Marvel Comics)
[0] Ned Flanders as the Devil (The Simpsons Treehouse of Horror)
[0] Pac-Devil (Pac-Man World Rally)
[0] Robot Devil (Futurama)
[0] Satan (Haxan)
[0] Satan (Paradise Lost)
[0] Satan (South Park)
[0] The Devil (Bedazzled)
[0] The Devil (Charlie Daniels - The Devil Went Down To Georgia)

ELIMINATED
18. Lucifer (Helltaker)
19. Zorc Necrophades (Yu-Gi-Oh!)
20. Devimon (Digimon)
21. Chernabog (Fantasia)
22. Sadao Maou (The Devil is a Part-Timer)
23. Beelzeboss (Tenacious D in the Pick of Destiny)
24. Satan (Ghosts n Goblins)
25. The Devil (Cuphead)
26. Devil (Tekken 2)
27. Satan (The Binding of Isaac)
28. Mundus (Devil May Cry)
29. Satan (Dante's Inferno)
30. Minion (Twisted Metal)
31. Icon of Sin (DOOM)
32. Beelz (Stephen Lynch - Beelz)
33. Dabura (Dragonball Z)
34. Satan (Persona)
35. Satan (Cygames)
36. The Devil (Slingo)
37. The Ruler of Heck (Rockos Modern Life)
38. The Red Guy (Cow and Chicken)
39. Giratina (Pokemon)
40. The Devil, y'know, from The Bible (SnapCube's Real Time Fandub of Shadow the Hedgehog)
41. Satanael (Persona)
42. Blackheart (Marvel)
43. Shinnok (Mortal Kombat)
44. Truck Satan (Clustertruck)
45. Rodin (Bayonetta)
46. Louisa Ferre (Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey)
47. Lucifer Morningstar (Lucifer TV series)
48. Lucifer (Persona)
49. Lucifer/The Devil (The Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil)
50. Darkness (Legend)

First two episodes of Moon Knight were excellent

The show overall had some of the highest highs of the marvel shows

it's just a damn shame it dropped the ball toward the end, still not over it just killing off the entire Egyptian pantheon offscreen

Already own Lego HP and Nioh, hope the third one is neat

Paranoia sympathy vote
Infinity

ELIMINATED
[2] Lucifer (Helltaker)

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3

so much potential here by revitalizing the gameplay system but the story bored me to tears

UNSAFE [9]
[2] Black Phillip (The VVitch)
[2] Diablo (Diablo)
[2] HIM (The Powerpuff Girls)
[2] Lou (Guitar Hero 3)
[2] Lucifer (Helltaker)
[1] Pac-Devil (Pac-Man World Rally)
[2] Robot Devil (Futurama)
[2] Satan (Paradise Lost)
[2] The Devil (Bedazzled)

posting to get update on new page

Black Phil

yeah this really was not my thing

1. Can't Get You Out of My Head
2. More More More
3. Dancefloor
4. Your Love
5. In Your Eyes
6. Give It to Me
7. Love Affair
8. Burning Up
9. Come into My World
10. Fever
11. Fragile
12. Love at First Sight

UNSAFE [15]
[1] Beelzebub (Darkwing Duck)
[1] Black Phillip (The VVitch)
[2] Dark Heart (Care Bears Movie II: A New Generation)
[2] Dark Prince/Satan (Puyo Puyo)
[0] Diablo (Diablo)
[1] HIM (The Powerpuff Girls)
[2] Lou (Guitar Hero 3)
[1] Lucifer (Helltaker)
[2] Mephisto (Marvel Comics)
[0] Pac-Devil (Pac-Man World Rally)
[1] Robot Devil (Futurama)
[2] Satan (Haxan)
[2] Satan (Paradise Lost)
[0] Satan (South Park)
[1] The Devil (Bedazzled)

lou

Outlier Ranking
rockus: 170
plasma: 165
Poke: 163
ssbm: 152
Mythiot: 151
John: 142
Snake: 136
Vis: 132
seginus: 131
Karo: 126
Tangy: 123

Vis
Watching this so soon after Untouchables, its very interesting to see the touchstones of Brian de Palma as a director. That whole ending sequence in the train station felt claustrophobic and terrifying, but you just had hope that Carlito was going to get away. I like the fact that the whole plot of the film revolved around a guy who is a FORMER criminal. He was a total badass that had everyone scared of him just by reputation, but he gets out of prison, and he has NO desire to go back to the criminal life. However, by a series of unfortunate events, he just keeps getting dragged back in, and hes REALLY good at crime, even inadvertently. He gets some crime money and uses it to invest in a club, which goes gangbusters, and his life is going great. He reunites with his ex; his club is going well; hes really turning his life around.

Meanwhile, his nerdy-ass lawyer starts thinking hes a big man, and starts trying to act tough and make power moves. And since said lawyer got Carlito out of prison, Carlito is indebted to him in a rule of the street kind of way. Carlito winds up witness to several murders that he wanted NO part of. He just wanted out of the game, but he got dragged in, and now he has the law after him (to rat on his lawyer friend, despite David screwing him over first), AND he has the mafia thinking that he was in on the murder of a mob boss and his son. Its a really interesting tragedy, because even when you try to get your life straightened out, theres just no undoing the damage your early reputation has on your endgame. But even more interesting is that its not even the mafia that gets him, but this punk asshole who thinks hes gonna be the next big thing. THAT is the ultimate capper on this storyline, and its a really solid and powerful ending.

ssbm
Rating: B

I'm actually surprised that this plot structure isn't copied in other movies. It's a winning one in my opinion. Carlito gets out of prison and attempts to leave the criminal lifestyle, only for the lifestyle to suck him back in. Carlito is one of the more likable protagonists! He even has a fairly wholesome romance, one of the few in the whole series. He's kind of a rogue-ish protagonist, sneaky and street-smart, but not overtly malicious. I was also pretty surprised by Sean Penn's Dave. I did not expect him to go full-on antagonist. It's really interesting, watching the intro scene again where Carlito monologues in court. You would think Carlito is just BSing, but no, he's completely honest. And Dave, who looks more reasonable, just ends up being completely unreasonable by the end.

I love the third act of this movie, where Carlito is being hunted down by the mob and he needs to escape to the train with Gail. I was surprised by how tense I felt watching Carlito hide in the shadows and crowds, as well as hiding in the escalator. It's enthralling and is a class example of showing that you don't need a fight to make things feel tense. Of course, it does become a fight, but it's pretty interesting camerawork since it all happens on an escalator.

Tangy
Dude I just love Al Pacino. This man has far more patience in this role than I could ever dream of having. Seriously he does everything in his power to stay calm and not resort to his old ways, but his dumbass friend just will not leave him freaking be. Like he just sat in prison for 5 years, give the man a break. I do like Sean Penn here though, I can always appreciate an actor that can play someone as punchable as Kleinfeld is. I think I also love the pacing here too. It does all these soft builds, where you see the tension rising, but Carlito always worms his way out of danger. By the time we reach the finale however, its non stop. And since we already know he dies, it turns into a question of when Carlitos luck will finally run out and tragically its right at the very end. Ya know Ive really been enjoying these de Palma films, I need to check out more of his work.

Karo
An ex-con trying to turn his life around gets inevitably drawn back into the criminal underworld thinks to his shitty friends.
I really felt for the character and his struggles to escape his old life, as well as the act of mercy that eventually leads his downfall. He is a tragic figure and it is done very well.
I refuse to accept that Kleinfeld could survive for ten minutes in the company he keeps let alone successfully murder a mafia kingpin, but other than that the story is very believable and sheds light on the struggles many real world convicts face after release.

John
It's easy to compare Carlito's Way to Scarface for a number of reason. Same director, similarly long length, similar setting, same Al Pacino playing a hispanic man despite him being Italian. But what's different here, and part of what makes Carlito's Way work for me more than either of the Scarface's is the juxaposition between Pacino and Penn. Where's Tony Montana was, ultimately, a despicable figure who caused his own undoing, Carlito is someone who legitimately seems to want to change for the better. Does he deserve to make that change? Is what he does with his newfound freedom enough to make him a sympathetic figure? That balance is what makes Carlito's Way great; there's arguments to be made both ways. Meanwhile, Sean Penn's Kleinfeld is a character who begins simply dipping his toe in the mob lifestyle, and before long he's diving headfirst and trying to bring down everyone around him, Carlito included. Carlito both owes Kleinfeld for his freedom and is ultimately the person continuing to shackle him into the life that got him imprisoned in the first place. It's a compelling dynamic the whole way through

Snake
Yeah, its pretty good!

Myth
Takes a bit too long to really get going and the dialogue isnt all that great, but Pacino is compelling as a criminal trying to go straight after being released from prison, and being dragged back into trouble by his slimy lawyer friend. The final chase at the subway station more than makes up for the slow first two thirds.

Poke
I wish they didn't sort of give away the ending at the beginning. I felt like it would have served the film better, because I was invested in the chase at the end, but I knew something was going to happen eventually. But other than that, it was a fine film.

8. Carlito's Way (1993)
Directed by: Brian De Palma
Runtime: 2h 24m
Score: 130

seginus: 2
plasma: 4
rockus: 7
Vis: 8
ssbm: 9
Tangy: 10
Karo: 11
John: 14
Snake: 17
Myth: 23
Poke: 25

seginus
Another familiar favorite, and for my money De Palma's finest. Essentially a pseudo-sequel to (and deconstruction of) Scarface, again casting Pacino as a Cuban crime lord only this time he's...reformed? Yep, despite the callbacks and quotes ("I'm reloaded!", the shot of the cockroach under the glass *hint*) Carlito Brigante is no Tony Montana, and I think trading the genre's usual anti-hero for an anti-villain really works here. Opposite motives, but equally doomed. Pacino and Penn are at their best, and De Palma's technical ambitions shine. There's so much cool camerawork, sets, and lighting. The whole train station chase is excellent, the simple overhead shot of Carlito on the gurney as if he were floating up is so effective, even the spinning makeout scene is impressive. And the romance manages to be pretty wholesome too! Bonus points for the final shot with the dancing silhouettes in that little vision of paradise. Perfect ending. Also bonus points for that amazing Viggo Mortensen scene where he's like "come on Carlito, I got no dick, man!"

plasma
What a breath of fresh air this was. After it opened with Carlitos bombastic court outburst, I figured we were headed for a story about an egomaniacal criminal rebuilding his empire after a five-year jail stint. Instead we got treated to a story about a reformed criminal doing his best to uphold a personal code and walk the straight-and-narrow.

I loved how easy it was to root for this guy. Being portrayed by Al Pacino obviously helps, but Carlito couldve been played by Nick Cage and I still wouldve gotten behind him and his tangible goals of making $70K and heading to the Caribbean for a fresh start. In a project where almost every story centers on anti-heroes or outright villains, we get a character who might best be described as an anti-villain. Carlito knows the game, hes got a dark history, and hes capable of going John Wick on anyone within shooting distance, but this Last of the Mo-Ricans sticks to his code and wants to be a regular guy. Love it.

The story does a fantastic job of juggling different plotlines. Sean Penns storyline is the key subplot here, and it explores the idea of loyalty and how much is owed to those who save our asses. The romantic subplot is simple yet strong, with standout moments like when Carlito criticizes Gail for working at a strip club, only for her to flip it back on him by asking if hes ever killed anyone. Then you have other, sneakier subplots involving the criminals trying to pull Carlito back into the hell hes trying to escape.

The movie erupts during its final act, and the entire train chase sequence had my heart slamming against my sternum. Possibly the most exciting sequence from any movie on our list. The triple-whammy of a likable protagonist, high personal stakes, and delicious tension lit the screen on fire for twenty minutes.

Then, right as Carlito reaches the train, theres that split-second of intense relief before he gets blasted by Benny from the Bronx. Ill admit the timing of the shooting is contrived, but the moment it happens, its a soul-crusher, and even though I expected a tragic ending, I was rooting so hard for Carlito to escape that his death gutted me.

Soon as the movie ended, I started piecing together all the mistakes Carlito made leading up to the ending: dismissing Benny, opting not to kill Benny, losing the respect of his bodyguard, taking the bullets out of Sean Penns gun, the list goes on. This movie filled me with such a strong sense of regret and pain in the final moments, and that makes up for any slip-ups along the way. A

rockus
Undeniably my favorite post-80s, late era Brian De Palma film and one of Pacinos finest performances. It might also have my favorite performance I can think of from Sean Penn. The finale is also an absolute banger and I dont think De Palma has made a film as good since.