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MrZAP17 posted...

I question the parts regarding only being well-known for the adapted medium, and being basically the same character. For example, Atticus Finch is arguably the case for both of those, but it's undeniable that he is a well-realized adaptation, partially because of the strength of Gregory Peck's acting. Your Bond example is also off, because the books were reasonably popular and anyway most of the Bonds are fairly different from the book version.

Adapting something from one medium to another is almost always going to bring about inherent differences; The Stick of Truth example you mentioned, where they are explicitly designed to be as much in the style of the show as possible, are something of exceptions.

Also, what about characters from famous Disney adaptations like Sleeping Beauty or Frozen or Beauty and the Beast or Hunchback of Notre Dame? Aside from perhaps the last one of those, the source material is largely fairy tales that are hundreds of years old and are generally substantially altered. However they are generally far less known than their Disney counterparts, and many have not read the original tales. That fact might disqualify them, but surely it can't be denied that they are not only adaptations, but very different from the source characters? This is frankly true of most movies, especially the less recent the derivative work; moves tend to overshadow source material most of the time.

I mean, I can just give you my 10 favorite LotR characters and call it a day (several would make it either way), but surely that's less interesting?

There's also the complication of seeing and adaption beforehand. I watched Batmas: TAS long before I read any comics, and my conception of the characters was absolutely informed by that. I love Two Face not because of his comics, but because of the TAS version I encountered first. Then there are all of the adaptations I've experienced without ever seeing the source material... how can I judge them on the merits of the adaptation if I've never experienced the original? At that point it's just a character I like, and adapting them has nothing to do with it. It's practically irrelevant that they were created for some other work before.

One final things, and I know this is reaching a bit, but what about characters that are not strictly the same, but are based off of others in stories based on others. Think King Lear > Ran or Romeo & Juliet > West Side Story. Many of these characters are direct analogies to the original work, even if they are technically different characters.

I think you're overthinking it. I put in the qualifying language just to eliminate people trying to get characters in that clearly shouldn't qualify like a Pokémon. And I think there's plenty of licensed games like Stick of Truth that are intended to be identical to the source material (such as any of the Dragon Ball fighting games).

Most of the examples you named would be eligible, including Atticus Finch and the Disney movies. Where I'd draw the line is characters loosely based on literary works that aren't the same character such as your West Side Story example.

And as for Bond, I guess we'll just have to disagree. That is a rare character who is only famous because of the films, and I don't believe the average person even knows he started as a literary character at this point.

azuarc posted...

Jesse_Custer posted...

or this idea is a dud.

It does seem kind of weird to me.

I was concerned people might feel that way, but figured I'd go for it because it won the poll. I mean I think it makes sense, but I could see people finding it confusing.

Not sure if the board is just dead this weekend, or this idea is a dud.

At the rate the nominations topic is going, I may wind up coming back to one of these other ideas. So tough to predict what's going to get participation.

Raka_Putra posted...

Also do you accept portrayal of historical characters?

I'm thinking they should just be adaptations of fictional characters.

6. The Riddler (Batman 60s)

Group 3 Contestants

Double Immune: Scrooge McDuck (Duck Tales)
Immune: Yoshi (Mario)
Immune: Edward Elric (Fullmetal Alchemist)
Immune: Professor X (Marvel Comics)
Boot: Spike Spiegel (Cowboy Bebop)
Boot: Kronk (The Emperor's New Groove)
Boot: Scar (Lion King)
Double Boot: Fox McCloud (Starfox)

Group 4 Contestants

Double Immune: Jasmine (Aladdin)
Immune: Wonder Woman (DC Comics)
Immune: Obi Wan Kenobi (Star Wars)
Immune: Count Dracula (Dracula)
Boot: Daffy Duck (Looney Tunes)
Boot: Taz (Looney Tunes)
Boot: Professor McGonagall (Harry Potter)
Double Boot: Ralph (Wreck-It-Ralph)

4. Jason Bourne (The Bourne Identity)
5. Lex Luthor (Smallville)

Snape

Why not?

1. Sherlock Holmes (2009 film)
2. Cassidy (Preacher - AMC)
3. Scarecrow (Batman Begins)

Jeff Zero posted...

How would the cast of Game of Thrones qualify? What about Lord of the Rings?

Both perfectly eligible.

My guidelines are to omit stuff like Pokemon characters who have technically appeared in different medium, but are always the same, or characters from South Park: The Stick of Truth who are intended to be exactly the same as on the show.

Welcome to the Best Adapted Character Tournament. This tournament is all about depictions of characters in different mediums. You can nominate characters such as those from movies based on comics and books, TV shows based on movies, and so on (as long as the character started out in a different medium).

What I'm not looking for (and I will reject nominations that aren't in the spirit of the contest) are characters who are depicted the same way in a different medium (such as Pokémon), or characters who are only really known for the adapted medium (such as James Bond in film). It should be a new take on an established character. If you're unsure, feel free to ask.

You may nominate up to 10 characters. The characters with the most nominations will get in. I'm thinking a 64 character bracket to avoid filler.

RULES:
- You may nominate up to 10 characters who first appeared in a different medium (subject to the guidelines above)
- You must list the source material
- Multiple nominations for the same character are ok as long as they're different versions
- The 64 characters with the most nominations will get in
- End date for nominations is to be decided (I'll give some notice before it closes)

Johnbobb posted...

1. Like a Stone

You also named my #1 Audioslave song!

Animated movies

Johnbobb posted...

1. Soundgarden - Blow Up the Outside World

My favorite Soundgarden song

Audioslave songs

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LOLIAmAnAlt posted...

LOLIAmAnAlt posted...

It's summer, Best Amusement/Theme Park Ride would be so cool.

Sorry, didn't mean to disregard your earlier post. When I thought about it more, I decided that one might not get much interest, since there could be plenty of rides that most users haven't done depending on what parks they've been to. But I'll keep it in mind for the future.

I'm thinking Adapted Character has the best chance of getting a good amount of participation. The only thing I'm not sure about is whether the idea is too vague. I wouldn't want characters appearing in licensed games that are basically the same exact take on a character, such as in South Park: The Stick of Truth.

Happy birthday!

This wound up being close. I'll try to decide soon.

Leaning no on comic movies/shows because it has the least votes and I've done it before. And probably no on the Beatles because I thought that one would do much better. Not sure about the others yet.

Edit: Maybe I spoke too soon on The Beatles.

I'd be fine with any rules that result in Jesse advancing.

gearofages posted...

Best sitcom

Forgot to mention I've thought about this one before. I like the idea, but am concerned it would be an inevitable Seinfeld vs Friends final.

scarletspeed7 posted...

Please please please please don't do more cover art stuff. I keep wanting to do cover art and pushing it back because of YOUUUUUUUUUU.

I know cover art has kind of become my thing, but I'd be happy to see you do it. Nothing wrong with having a ranking topic and a contest at the same time.

Board 8 users best suited for the different Lantern Corps

Tom Bombadil posted...

I wanna see a wrestler tournament but I don't remember you being somebody who's into that

so I'll say best waifu

Both of those would probably be popular tournaments, but I'm not much more interested in waifus than wrestling.

I'm in the mood to do some kind of bracket tournament, help me decide. Here's a few ideas I'm considering, and feel free to suggest other stuff.

1. Best Comic Book Movie/TV Show
- I ran this contest once before, any movies or TV shows based on comics would be eligible. I'm pretty sure The Dark Knight won last time, so I'd leave it out to make the contest less predictable.

2. Best Beatles Song
- Been listening to them a lot lately and I thought this might be a fun music oriented contest.

3. Best Adapted Character
- This idea is for a contest involving characters who started in one medium, and were then adapted to a different medium. For example, The Joker from The Dark Knight movie or The Joker in Arkham Asylum would be eligible, but not the original version in the comics.

4. Best Cover Art
- Covers for anything would be eligible, video games, albums, DVDs, books, etc.

5. Best Amusement/Theme Park Ride
- Just what it sounds like, any amusement/theme park ride around the world would be eligible.

Surprised this hasn't purged yet, guess I should keep it alive for the next episode.

Jeff Zero posted...

Ok

Thumbs up

Group 1 Contestants

Double Immune: Jesse Custer (Preacher)
Immune: Kermit the Frog (Muppets)
Immune: Piccolo (Dragonball Z)
Immune: Buzz Lightyear (Toy Story)
Boot: Groot (Guardians of the Galaxy)
Boot: Tom (Tom and Jerry)
Boot: Bender (Futurama)
Double Boot: Toph Beifong (Avatar: The Last Airbender)

Group 2 Contestants

Double Immune: John McClane (Die Hard)
Immune: Homer Simpson (Simpsons)
Immune: Buffy Summers (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)
Immune: Leonardo (TMNT)
Boot: Snoopy (Peanuts)
Boot: Professor Snape (Harry Potter)
Boot: Cloud Strife (FFVII)
Double Boot: Walter White (Breaking Bad)

MalcolmMasher posted...

Radiant Shield is very helpful and sends a lot of damage his way

This tip helped me beat Sephiroth. I didn't even realize I had a character with Radiant Shield until I went looking and noticed I had Vincent's BSB. That did a ton of damage to him. It also helped me to rely on Last Stand for the parts where he hits with multiple powerful spells, and to have Vanille's BSB for instant healing.

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Johnbobb posted...

Se7enthrust posted...

Colbert Report may be done but the Daily Show is alive and well so he is only half right. :P

I think he meant "done" as in "has it been ranked yet?"

Yup

Lol at #5 for rocks.

Bracket contests you'd like to see

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Bracket tournaments you'd be interested in seeing on the board

Things you'd like to see on Preacher season 2

Characters you'd like to see written by Garth Ennis that haven't been

Ah well, that's it for my interest in this one.

Ethan Hunt

Great_Paul posted...

B8 projects you'd like to see me do

This one for me too (if you've got space before 500)

LordoftheMorons posted...

52 is really good

Agreed, and this would be a really good one to read if you're looking to get more of a feel for the DC Universe.

For Green Lantern, Blackest Night is a good inclusion for your reading list, but Geoff Johns' entire run is worth reading. And you'll get more out of Blackest Night if you read the stories leading up to it (starting with Rebirth). But it is a long run. If you just want some highlights, The Sinestro Corps War is a good bet, and I personally love Rage of the Red Lanterns.

Outside of Johns' run, Emerald Twilight/New Dawn is a decent read too.

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