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BB mofo posted...

This was when all points of the universe were still casually connected and could influence each other.

Everything is still entangled and can influence everything else. That never changed. It is actually implied as well. I believe the question asked is "How entangled is everything?"
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NewportBox100s posted...

I did stop myself last night. Your reading comprehension is awful. I drank the shots at 2 p.m.
I had cravings for a Four Loko at 1 that night. I stopped myself from getting it and have been sober since. I lucked out and didn't have a random test today so now the alcohol is out of my system and I don't violate the program or go to jail. I'll stay clean now so I don't have to worry about it. Only 4 months til graduation then I can smoke green again for the first time in 5 years and be normal again.

Why can't you use green now? I always just was honest about it and did it anyways.
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joe40001 posted...

Sativa_Rose posted...

joe40001 posted...

How did you get scheduled for an IQ test?

It's a long story but it involves being forced into a lot of psychobabble bullshit by my father, mainly because he was pissed at me for asserting my independence from his tyranny.

I've always wanted an IQ test but don't know how to get one.

I've had to take them twice in my life as part of learning disability evaluations. One when I was 12 and another in January.
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gafemaqs posted...

And how would this cop know to prepare for more clowns?

Unless... the cops are the clowns.

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Sativa_Rose posted...

DawkinsNumber4 posted...

Seems similar to mine still. Same weaknesses too. We may have a swapped "matrix reasoning" and "visual puzzles". Did you do better on your digit span backwards or forwards?

I don't have the results for backwards or forwards, just the overall score for the subsections I think. My matrix reasoning was basically the only score that was in the middle between my high scoring sections and lower scoring sections.

I don't know if these numbers are on the same scale as yours but here's what they are:

Verbal Comprehension:
Similarities: 16
Vocabulary: 15
Information: 17

Perceptual Reasoning:
Block Design: 8
Matrix Reasoning: 13
Visual Puzzles: 9

Working memory:
Digit span: 17
Arithmetic: 15

Processing Speed:
Symbol search: 10
Coding: 11

I took the same test so they are on the same scale I would assume but honestly I never looked into how to read those things.
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The_Donald posted...

Holy shit that dude is in the bottom 25% for perceptual reasoning and 23% for processing speed.

How long does it take him to put on his clothes in the morning, lol.

Quite a while because I have to remember where I put them first and my non-working memory is all fudged.
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Sativa_Rose posted...

The test was the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale-fourth edition (WAIS-IV)

Also looking more at the results, the sections I scored lowest on were "block design", "visual puzzles", "symbol search", and "coding".

The highest were "information", "verbal comprehension", "digital span", "arithmetic", and "similarities".


Well at least I know what sections to practice if I want to pump those numbers up, lol. I do think I am naturally oriented towards those areas where I scored higher, but I think with practice I could do much better on the block and visual puzzles. It's something I've never really practiced or did much of in school.

Seems similar to mine still. Same weaknesses too. We may have a swapped "matrix reasoning" and "visual puzzles". Did you do better on your digit span backwards or forwards? I also struggled immensely with the block design.
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Sativa_Rose posted...

I will check the records again, I don't remember the names of any of the tests they gave me (I don't think I was even told them actually), but they might be in the records.

The same psych who gave me this test diagnosed me with Asperger's Syndrome, but I have categorically rejected that diagnosis ever since. I have not been in any sort of treatment or on medication for the past seven years since.

This is what the WRAT4 looked like if it was that one (the WRAT3 should look similarish) to help. The names of the tests should be on the documents themselves.


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Sativa_Rose posted...

I will check the records again, I don't remember the names of any of the tests they gave me (I don't think I was even told them actually), but they might be in the records.

The same psych who gave me this test diagnosed me with Asperger's Syndrome, but I have categorically rejected that diagnosis ever since. I have not been in any sort of treatment or on medication for the past seven years since.

That's the typical profile of an aspie (though i've seen some folk with it totally flipped with the perceptual reasoning and verbal comprehension). Anyways, medication for for me is the same as it is for you so I understand ;)
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Here are mine btw.

I seem to have strengths with the written word rather than the auditory one (probably due to the memory thing). Did they give you WRAT?
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Sativa_Rose posted...

Alright so I was only about average on two categories: perceptual reasoning and processing speed

Apparently perceptual reasoning is problems like this

They included physical tasks such as block design where the subject is asked to copy a design on a page using three dimensional, patterned blocks and predicting sequences of pattern or combinations of patterns set out in a matrix.

Read more at: https://psychologized.org/what-is-perceptual-reasoning/

I admit I'm not very good at the geometric type questions, particularly the ones that involve looking at a picture of a set of blocks and then having to rotate it in 3D space in your mind and figure out which one out of several options it could (or could not) be. I remember there were a lot of questions like that.

Also not sure why I didn't do well on processing speed. I like taking my time to make sure I get every answer as correct as possible, but that's basically what the school system trains you to do. It's always in your best interest to use the maximum time allotted for the test to double check your answers after you've finished (at least in the education system I went through) so that's my excuse for that score.

As for verbal comprehension and working memory, that's about more in line with what I'd expect. Overall the shitty scores on the two subjects brought me down to 121

Oh and they include the results of my drug test lol ;)



72 nanograms of THC per mL? That's fourteen times the legal limit for DUI in Colorado and Washington right now. I took this test almost FOUR DAYS after the last time I smoked. I was stone cold sober, and I still show up at 14x the legal limit?! What bullshit :P

Two questions. One, which test is this? Also, do you have aspergers? Your profile is similar to mine. I had lower perceptual reasoning by far. I have done this when I was 12 as well. Did they give you this memory test as well? This seems to be the root of many of my difficulties.
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Conflict posted...

I thought Dawkins was the guy headbutting cop cars.

http://www.heraldmailmedia.com/news/local/man-injured-after-hopping-on-hagerstown-police-cruiser/article_2e06308e-8de1-11e7-b5c2-271aa1ec0581.html

"A man was taken to the hospital Wednesday evening after he jumped on a city police cruiser along Washington Street in Hagerstown and acted in a threatening way toward officers, police said.

A Hagerstown Police Department cruiser was sitting at a red light at Washington and Mulberry streets about 7 p.m., when a man jumped on the hood of the vehicle, Sgt. Mark Renner said.

Renner said the man was acting in a threatening manner and yelling: "What are you going to do about it?"

The man then climbed on the roof of the cruiser, he said.

Police pepper-sprayed the man, who fell and hit his head, according to Renner.

The man was taken to Meritus Medical Center near Hagerstown, he said.

Renner said police are continuing to investigate the incident.

Onlookers gathered as the man laid on the sidewalk surrounded by officers. Traffic was narrowed to one lane of travel on Washington Street, which clogged traffic along the road.

A dent could be seen in the cruiser after the incident, and a piece of clothing was lying on the hood."


At least, I didn't have any real injuries like this guy did.
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SlashmanSG posted...

Conflict posted...

I thought Dawkins was the guy headbutting cop cars.

Rika_Furude posted...

No thats xsquadder

Same person.

Literally, my sig. *smh* I said that person cannot read very well. It frustrated me so much one day I had to put them on ignore.
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I never actually watched Bob Ross before but this topic seemed interesting and I am glad I sat down and did so now.
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MasterMacLeod posted...

DawkinsNumber4 posted...

MasterMacLeod posted...

Maybe you can get to share a cell with @DawkinsNumber4

I have not broken any laws with regards to the charges they have alleged.

Sure boy sure

I've proven it time and time again that the issue at play here is not taking the time to actually read what the statutes say.
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MasterMacLeod posted...

Maybe you can get to share a cell with @DawkinsNumber4

I have not broken any laws with regards to the charges they have alleged.
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I had posted the report before on here. It used to be hosted by santa barbara itself on it's own government website. It did show that he looked at nude children regularly but did not show that he ever had sex with them.
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BB mofo posted...

DawkinsNumber4 posted...

So how legit is it?

Eternal Inflation, and by extension Fractal Cosmology, is highly speculative. We know that the universe did undergo inflation, but that's about it. Even Alan Guth himself has wavered between rejecting Eternal Inflation and embracing it over the past three decades.

This is why I cannot discount it.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/largest-structure-universe-discovered-093416167.html

"The newly discovered LQC is so enormous, in fact, that theory predicts it shouldn't exist, researchers said. The quasar group appears to violate a widely accepted assumption known as the cosmological principle, which holds that the universe is essentially homogeneous when viewed at a sufficiently large scale.

Calculations suggest that structures larger than about 1.2 billion light-years should not exist, researchers said."
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darkjedilink posted...

lderivedx posted...

Carlson said a bunch of anarchists were authoritarian.

Violating someone's freedom of speech with violence is authoritarian, no?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
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SharpX68000 posted...

--kresnik-- posted...

muchdran posted...

Doesn't exist

Doesn't exist.

Also, priveledge

I got dislexia I can mispell whatever words i want to.

See my last post or you will continue lol.
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--kresnik-- posted...

priveledge

privilege.
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BB mofo posted...

Pogo_Marimo posted...

I don't know what it's called but I call this the "infinite scale theory"

This is called "The Fractal Flow" and it's a feature of Alan Guth's Theory of Eternal Inflation. A fractal is a dimension that is not represented as an integer. The ratio of the log of an object's scale to the log of the object's mass determines the fractal dimension. Fractals are the antithesis to Newton-Leibniz Calculus based on limits. In Calculus, increasing the scale increases an objects smoothness. With Fractals, the degree of roughness of the object changes based on the scale.

So how legit is it?
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Pogo_Marimo posted...

DawkinsNumber4 posted...

Foppe posted...

josifrees posted...

Foppe posted...

The thing is, we got different laws of physics depending on what scale of universe we are looking at.
Since we live in one scale, we are stupid enough to believe that the whole universe must follow the same rules.
If we zoom in, we got quantum mechanics that work different.
If we zoom out, we discover that the universe doesnt follow our logic, so we make up things like Dark Energy to make it work with our logic.

The thing is we don't have different laws for different scales we have different levels of understanding for different scales. There is a universal theory that will arise eventually

Source: literally every scientific theory ever

We believe that we can explain the whole universe with one theory.
Perhaps we can in the future, perhaps not.
Right now we cant and we got different ones for different scales.
That is fact, not a theory.

I don't know what it's called but I call this the "infinite scale theory" and new scales are always being created and basically there is no end to how large something can become but only how small. This way not only would the universe expand but whatever is larger than the universe would do the same and with continued expansion you would have scales being formed over and over which would change the perspective of each observer of the new scale when considering the size of all of the other scales that currently exist to their knowledge.

For example, we have the atomic scale, our own familiar scale, and then the universal scale. Well what if there are others larger? Then, in comparison our universe may seem to some observer elsewhere to be atomic. I mean our universe is mostly empty space just like atoms are.

Yes, but the difference between what you're speculating and what physicists actually do is that the systems and models physicists describe are actually observable. All kinds of things are possible outside of our observable capabilities, an infinite number of things as a matter of fact, but speculating on them is not particularpy useful unless you can observe them.

Right now we observe the laws of physics being different on 3 different scales, just as another poster mentioned.
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Foppe posted...

josifrees posted...

Foppe posted...

The thing is, we got different laws of physics depending on what scale of universe we are looking at.
Since we live in one scale, we are stupid enough to believe that the whole universe must follow the same rules.
If we zoom in, we got quantum mechanics that work different.
If we zoom out, we discover that the universe doesnt follow our logic, so we make up things like Dark Energy to make it work with our logic.

The thing is we don't have different laws for different scales we have different levels of understanding for different scales. There is a universal theory that will arise eventually

Source: literally every scientific theory ever

We believe that we can explain the whole universe with one theory.
Perhaps we can in the future, perhaps not.
Right now we cant and we got different ones for different scales.
That is fact, not a theory.

I don't know what it's called but I call this the "infinite scale theory" and new scales are always being created and basically there is no end to how large something can become but only how small. This way not only would the universe expand but whatever is larger than the universe would do the same and with continued expansion you would have scales being formed over and over which would change the perspective of each observer of the new scale when considering the size of all of the other scales that currently exist to their knowledge.

For example, we have the atomic scale, our own familiar scale, and then the universal scale. Well what if there are others larger? Then, in comparison our universe may seem to some observer elsewhere to be atomic. I mean our universe is mostly empty space just like atoms are.
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AverageDude9 posted...

Let me start off by saying that I have no real respect for cops. In terms of authority, I feel that the power they have tends to be corrupt and that they focus their time on chasing after innocent citizens, rather than the real criminals.

Anyway, recently I was driving home and a cop car was stalking me on the right lane. I was going the speed limit and the cop decided to pull me over. She made the claim that I was going outside of the lane(100% false) and kept asking me if I did drugs. Me being a minority, decided to comply and say no, I am innocent. As I didn't want to get shot. However, she told me to step out the car, which is when it occurred to me that shit was going to get real.

The idiot cop kept asking me questions, I didn't give out anything that would incriminate me. And she asked me if she could search my car. I told her no, and that I have the legal right to refuse a search. Sadly for me, she also had a K9 in her car. So she called for male back up, said the dog would sniff my car to see if I had no drugs. And funny enough, the dog supposedly had the signal to prove it detected something.

Even though I didn't do any. So at this point, I was visibly frustrated. Told them that they are liars and that it's a false flag. I also mentioned that they are doing this to target ME and that they are harassing people who are innocent, all to put them in jail rather than going after the real criminal. I also mentioned that they would look like idiots once they saw no drugs in the car

And lo and behold, they searched, and no drugs. At this point, I decided enough was enough and to curse them out. I called the male police officer a piece of garbage, while calling the female officer the "C" word and yelling out obscenities. Told them that they were doing this because they wanted to put an innocent minority in jail and to get some sort of "fame". Both cops had a disappointing look on their face, but they knew they could not charge me for having free speech and no drugs. And they left.

No ticket either.




TLDR

-Got pulled over by a cop

-cop starts grilling me, calls for backup, has a K9, gets it to sniff car.

-Dog "detects" something, they search. Find nothing

-I curse out the cops, tell them how they do nothing but kill minorities and harass innocent people

-They leave, as they can't do shit to me

Contact internal affairs and file a discrimination complaint against the officer. Provide the location of the stop as well as the time the stop happened if you don't know any more than that and they can find the info on their own. If there is a bodycam there may be a method to obtain it via a public records request. Same with a police report, however I believe you are entitled to your own police report regardless. Even though there was no arrest they still have to document the stop itself.
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shockthemonkey posted...

Anteaterking posted...

thanosibe posted...

Fair enough. What I am saying though is it is now their property as I freely donated it of my own will. The same as people did to Trump's foundation. And it now his money to use as he sees it as long as it's legal.

I don't think anyone is complaining that Trump is using foundation money for Hurricane Harvey relief. I think that they're complaining that he's making a big show about giving away his money for publicity, but then pays out of other people's funds.

Going back to the Goodwill example, if Jim Gibbons said "I'm personally donating $50 million to Harvey", and then it came out that he actually meant that he was taking $50 million from Goodwill and giving it to Harvey, people would also be mad at him.

Yes, exactly.

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SSJ-AshKetchum posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Krystalcyanide posted...

Trump donates a million and you guys call him Jesus In a serious matter wow

He hasn't actually donated anything

He literally did...

He hasn't donated anything yet. It's just words right now.
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CEs_EFG posted...

DawkinsNumber4 posted...

https://thinkprogress.org/white-house-walks-back-trumps-promise-to-give-1-million-of-his-personal-money-to-harvey-victims-4691cf5e6dd6/

http://www.avclub.com/white-house-remains-fuzzy-on-the-details-of-trumps-mill-1798722252

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-hurricane-harvey-donation-no-way-658367

. But according to Tony Schwartz, the man who ghost-wrote Trump's 1987 book, The Art of the Deal, that's not going to happen.


Those links are the definition of fake news lmao

The problem is that until he donates the burden of proof is on him to prove he will donate as many believe he will not as he set a past example of such behavior.
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https://thinkprogress.org/white-house-walks-back-trumps-promise-to-give-1-million-of-his-personal-money-to-harvey-victims-4691cf5e6dd6/

http://www.avclub.com/white-house-remains-fuzzy-on-the-details-of-trumps-mill-1798722252

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-hurricane-harvey-donation-no-way-658367
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*bump*
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CircleOfManias posted...

DawkinsNumber4 posted...

CircleOfManias posted...

Yes, but we would simply accept these glitches as part of the laws of physics. Even if they're really strange like the dual slit experiment.

Why do you think wave-particle duality is a glitch rather than something working as intended?

I'm not saying it's a glitch. I'm saying glitches and quantum weirdness would be indistinguishable because we have no idea how it "should" work.

I mean we know what quantum mechanics does, we just don't quite know how. I don't find it likely it is a glitch or even a flaw as quantum mechanics is what seems to create probability in the universe.
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mrtopgoon327 posted...

meh

"Meh" doesn't really answer which one is better.
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CircleOfManias posted...

Yes, but we would simply accept these glitches as part of the laws of physics. Even if they're really strange like the dual slit experiment.

Why do you think wave-particle duality is a glitch rather than something working as intended?
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gunplagirl posted...

Much like the terrible AI of Bethesda games, we would not even notice anything is so alarming as a glitch

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BestInTheWorId posted...

DawkinsNumber4 posted...

BestInTheWorId posted...

We ARE living in a simulation. The fact that there's rules to physics and a limit to the speed of light alone proves it imo.

The rules of physics change on the atomic scale though (quantum mechanics). We can only observe like 1% of the universe or something ridiculously low like that. How do we know that there is not a grander scale in which once again the laws differ a bit?

According to quantum mechanics, death is an illusion right?

I am not sure how the two relate. Could you elaborate?
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BestInTheWorId posted...

We ARE living in a simulation. The fact that there's rules to physics and a limit to the speed of light alone proves it imo.

The rules of physics change on the atomic scale though (quantum mechanics). We can only observe like 1% of the universe or something ridiculously low like that. How do we know that there is not a grander scale in which once again the laws differ a bit?
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luigi13579 posted...

Humans developing the level of intelligence they now have was one big glitch.

I remember reading something along those lines, that human intelligence was one big "accident" or something.

We aren't as intelligent as we give ourselves credit for. We are still quite primitive. The herd mentality is the most telling example of this.
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Funkydog posted...

Aristoph posted...

DawkinsNumber4 posted...

Those are not glitches. Evolution would not be true without those type of things happening.

If this is a simulation, then evolution is not true as we understand it. So they certainly could be glitches.

Exactly. If it was coded properly, then surely shouldn't be "downsides" or "malfunctions" to it?

Those aren't downsides. That's the first mistake you are making in thought. You find them as downsides because they are not beneficial to you but part of finding the good is having the bad exist to adapt to solve that problem to begin with. If something isn't a problem you cannot adapt to deal with it because it doesn't exist. Why would we evolve if everything was perfect? How even? We couldn't. So the imperfection is not only implied for progress to happen through evolution, it is required for evolution to be true.
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DoomSwell posted...

Bees shouldn't be able to fly.

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2013/08/bumblebee-flight-does-not-violate-the-laws-of-physics/
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GregShmedley posted...

DawkinsNumber4 posted...

Funkydog posted...

Could say genetic diseases are "glitches", or people who hallucinate/see things etc is just the system glitching out.

The mandela effect could be it breaking as well.

"Could say genetic diseases are "glitches", or people who hallucinate/see things etc is just the system glitching out."


Those are not glitches. Evolution would not be true without those type of things happening. as part of evolving involves implied imperfection of the evolving organisms.

I have a hunch about schizophrenia. I believe it is very possible that religion created schizophrenia but not by being religion but rather the cruel tyrants throughout history who would harm those who did not believe. This would then indicate survival requires belief in the supernatural so then one would assume that it would be beneficial with regards to evolution if the brain allowed people to easier succumb to such delusional thoughts as if they are normal.

DawkinsNumber4 posted...

DevsBro posted...

How else do you explain Bigfoot, that floating city above China and UFO sightings?

Dumbass conspiracy theorists and/or schizophrenics?

Very fitting.

It is not baseless.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4107833/

"Did Christianity lead to schizophrenia? Psychosis, psychology and self reference"

My theory doesn't even blame the Christians specifically...and is more specific as to why it would happen. I did not say it's true but it would explain a lot.

"The central issue in all of this seems to be the emphasis on a continued scrutiny of personal actions and inclinations amidst a multitude of alternatives, and on the downplaying of the everyday physical world, and on the problematisation of agency: in all, a new self awareness and self reference, a shifting of the centre of gravity of consciousness into the individual human being. Many habitual aspects of ourselves, and these we can presume are already enhanced in proto-schizophreni in proto-schizophrenianour bodily functioning, chance thoughts, sensations, impulses, and memories can be attributed to some source external to the experiencing self (to physiology, memory, dreams, genes, passions, habits). We cannot however now attribute agency to them. As agency is withdrawn from the natural world, from others, from animals, plants, stars, and spirits, our individual agency appears enhanced uneasy balance between the is it me? and the is it something external?

Many external causes, spirits, and stars, not only no longer have agency but are no longer validated by our society, so any personal explanations of an external locus of control become increasingly idiosyncratic and divorced from our common social life (Tausk, 1919/1948).18 If the passage from proto-schizophrenia to schizophrenia is thus perhaps intelligible in social terms, does this offer any clues to the nature of proto-schizophrenia itself? If the attribution of agency is a general human characteristic, and is integral to both religion and psychosis (Dein & Littlewood, 2011), then this might suggest that both the proto-symptoms and their transformation into schizophrenia are concerned with this attribution, the transformation being related to the indigenous psychology we have considered here. This type of estrangement from experience (later reinforced by a number of secular and religious developments)19 fits well with Sass criteria for the reflexive self-consciousness that has perhaps propelled us into schizophrenia."
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Eevee-Trainer posted...

We would recognize any glitch as part of our everyday, because this is the world we've come to know - in the simulation, what the programmers would call a glitch, we only experience as an ordinary event in the world that we simply lack an explanation for. Quantum mechanical weirdness could be roundoff errors accumulating at small scale sizes, black holes could be bad sectors of disk data, who knows, but we'd come up with an explanation regardless and leave it at that.

Not sure if I'm making my point clear. <.<

This. A glitch is something that is not supposed to happen, but how would we know what is supposed to happen when this is the only thing we know

Because we know what we see on a normal basis. Yes, I guess black holes could be bad sectors, though I would like to know why some think quantum mechanics could be round up errors. I've never heard that before.
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Funkydog posted...

Could say genetic diseases are "glitches", or people who hallucinate/see things etc is just the system glitching out.

The mandela effect could be it breaking as well.

"Could say genetic diseases are "glitches", or people who hallucinate/see things etc is just the system glitching out."


Those are not glitches. Evolution would not be true without those type of things happening. as part of evolving involves implied imperfection of the evolving organisms.



I have a hunch about schizophrenia. I believe it is very possible that religion created schizophrenia but not by being religion but rather the cruel tyrants throughout history who would harm those who did not believe. This would then indicate survival requires belief in the supernatural so then one would assume that it would be beneficial with regards to evolution if the brain allowed people to easier succumb to such delusional thoughts as if they are normal.
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DevsBro posted...

How else do you explain Bigfoot, that floating city above China and UFO sightings?

Dumbass conspiracy theorists and/or schizophrenics?
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If so, how would we look for/recognize any glitch?
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