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I guess the question is how it's done.
Druids already have that spell, it's called Awaken. They can do it as a level 5 spell.
Using science-magic you can call it efluvium, or whatever other mcguffin you want that is the progenitor for sentience.
Straight magic, the term could just be whatever weird ass ritual they have to go through, and then they wake up, and whatever their situation is, that's what it's called.

Because you should get a job.

Melon_Master posted...

shadowsword87 posted...

He was an asshole about this for what, five years?

At least..

Exactly, f*** the benefit of the doubt, get a job ICOYAR.

I_Abibde posted...

Reminds me of my love of doppelgangers (and of giving them extra levels to keep them up as a real threat to the party, since they are otherwise relatively low-grade monsters).

Well, to be fair, they are mechanically very similar.

Also my secondary love: blink dogs.
They're dogs that blink and out of existence! What's not to love.

He was an asshole about this for what, five years?

Zeus posted...

If they don't have a job, they should be occupying their time looking for one, though. And in their spare time they should be researching skills which would help them move along in either their chosen profession or ones that would help them get into a new profession.

Yeah sure, it's nice to say those sorts of things, but at the end of the day I honestly don't know what that's like (and I'm willing to bet you don't know either).
And also researching skills is useless unless you're certified in that thing, which costs money.

Now, getting some s****y low paying job? That's just learning how to accept worse spots.

PyroBlade1985 posted...

Wait, TheWorstPoster is that ICOYAR guy everyone talks about?

Yes.

green dragon posted...

Damn, I've never heard that part before

In the hallway by the study, the President and Ms. Lewinsky kissed. On this occasion, according to Ms. Lewinsky, "he focused on me pretty exclusively," kissing her bare breasts and fondling her genitals.(272) At one point, the President inserted a cigar into Ms. Lewinsky's vagina, then put the cigar in his mouth and said: "It tastes good."(273) After they were finished, Ms. Lewinsky left the Oval Office and walked through the Rose Garden.(274)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/icreport/6narritiii.htm

It's goddamn crazy and I'm just learning about it now.

green dragon posted...

Also kinda crazy that he could even have an affair. I just assumed that the president was watched by the secret service or something for almost every second of their life. Kinda thought that they would only have private time with family.

According literally to him,

Bill said that he had "hundreds of affairs" before "turning forty" but then he began a "concerted effort to be faithful," according to a conversation with Monica reported to the Starr grand jury.

http://zpub.com/un/un-bc9b.html

Yeah, I had no idea just how messed up this got.

He put a cigar in Monica Lewinsky's vagina, and then smoked it!
Holy crap, nobody mentioned that crazy part before, just him saying "oral sex is not sex".

GanonsSpirit posted...

For people who are bad friends, maybe.

How long do your friendships normally last then?

Go for it. Unless you have known her literally since you were a child, friendships only last like 5 years anyway.

Blasted_Fury posted...

dude, the UK isn't a third world country
it's 2nd world, at LEAST.

1st world by both the original definition, and the modern definition.

It's not awful, which considering the type of show, is a pretty high recommendation from me.

I'm the same way, I remember spending hours playing with my family over LAN. We were all awful, but it was a whole bunch of fun and I love the series.

I sort of glaze over when 40k fans complain about things because, well, like most fandoms, they like to complain. They did make Company of Heroes, so it's not a knock against them. I am curious about the art style, but that's really it. I just want to see all of the different countries doing stuff, but that's secondary.

But it's Relic, and they don't do awful stuff, normally.

This isn't Microsoft pooping on an old series, like they did with Roller Coaster Tycoon.

Hopefully. Oh god I hope. Please don't mess this up, I need more RTSs, nobody makes then anymore.

These are awful jokes, sorry they're just bad.

Huh, I didn't know that was still a thing.

Second shift is best shift!

Zeus posted...

tbh, never really understood how people can get bored unless they're stuck somewhere with nothing to do but even then you've got your imagination or, if you're waiting for something, it gives you prep time.

It might have something to do with not having a job.
I don't remember what that's like, but that's what I imagine it is.

I'm always happy to have some time off though, I have a lot of stuff to do. Even if it's just for games for me and my friends, they take a lot of prep time.

Why the hell would you run up to a crowd for an opinion? Mob mentality will kick in and of course everyone will yell at him, he's physically standing against them and is questing their beliefs while they're in the middle of an emotionally charged event.

mooreandrew58 posted...

umm no its never done right. as said I never see them polling out here in the country. kind of ignoring an entire population of people that have a different mindset because of the lives they live versus city dwellers. and to think any group is unbiased is being a bit hopeful imo.

http://www.gallup.com/201191/gallup-daily-tracking-work.aspx
From their website:

Gallup interviews U.S. adults aged 18 and older living in all 50 states and the District of Columbia using a dual-frame design, which includes both landline and cellphone numbers. Gallup samples landline and cellphone numbers using random-digit-dial methods. Gallup purchases samples for this study from Survey Sampling International (SSI). Gallup chooses landline respondents at random within each household based on which member had the next birthday. Each sample of national adults includes a minimum quota of 70% cellphone respondents and 30% landline respondents, with additional minimum quotas by time zone within region. Gallup conducts interviews in Spanish for respondents who are primarily Spanish-speaking.

Which means they literally dial random numbers and then ask their questions.

So if you're going to claim that it's bias against people who don't have phones... sure you caught them.

mooreandrew58 posted...

edit: and even if news network is truly unbiased you can't say the same for the reporters I bet, the ones who write the stories. and those who approve the stories. its almost impossible to find any individual who is unbiased and would actually push a story that went against what they are for

The Gallup Poll is third party and not affiliated with any news organization, they just all use it because it's the most accurate.
Even the government uses it.

mooreandrew58 posted...

did I say lower. I simply said unpopular. if you fall below 50% approval rating that means more than half the country doesn't like them, thus making them unpopular.

Well if you don't want to be helpful, I just looked it up:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_approval_rating#Historical_comparison

mooreandrew58 posted...

what kills me though. is how accurate can these things be. i've never been asked by a poll if I liked the president. and two i'm willing to bet money they do these polls much more in cities where as you guessed it more democrats reside. they don't do these polls out in the rural country thats infested with republicans

That's literally what sampling is and there's an entire branch of mathematics that exists to help do sampling right.
It's very accurate if it's done right (which considering it's using the Gallup Poll, it's done right).

mooreandrew58 posted...

we have survived things worse than a unpopular president. we've survived several of those too. at one point Obama only had a 48% approval rating and I think Bush's sunk lower than that.

Like who?
I am genuinely curious what presidents have had a lower approval rating.

Zeus posted...

If you can't hack it, look for another job. It's easier than trying to find ways to cope with a situation you can't tolerate.

Yup, staying has two major options:
1. Either you get f***ed up by the workplace and become a worse person for it.
2. You let your annoyance out and become a part of the problem.

Neither one of those is a good option.

Lightning Bolt posted...

and I also have no clue what your setting looks like so far. >.>

Oh, I'm currently working on building a post apocalyptic fantasy where the good guys managed to barely kill the BBEG and the world is all messed up. The PCs are traders who are trying get by, it's a completely open world (I mentioned that multiple, multiple times, oh god I reminded them of that), so I'm just populating the world with interesting cities.

But my question about these races is just because I honestly really like them and it's a general question of what you guys think. I can easily take ideas and transplant them around, because I like them. They're fun and a lot more interesting than "humans who are angry" or "humans are extra smart" because they fundamentally change how things work.

Y'all are awful at knowing how civil wars work.

Yeah, anywhere from 5 minutes to 30 minutes.

Drat, oh well.

All right, can I get a link to the Discord channel? I finally got off of work.

Mario_VS_DK posted...

I'm not really sure about warforged, though they are a very cool race. I'd assume that they would be opposed to slavery, because that was their original purpose (right?) but they managed to break free to be their own people. (right?) Maybe their shelters and other creations would be all extremely practical with very little aesthetics to it, but I have no clue outside of that.

I mean, this is basically up to you because I don't know.
I do like the idea that there was a wizard who made them so they can go off and build a sweet city, and then because it was a pretty cool wizard who wasn't a big fan of necromancy, died like a normal person. So the warforged, not really all that sure what they wanted to do, just sort of kept going on with what they were doing before. They would occasionally send people out, but they just sort of sit around, waiting and continuing their programming.

Mario_VS_DK posted...

Changelings though, I don't believe they would actually have a culture. In Pathfinder at least, they are born when a hag mates with a mortal. After that, they are dropped off at a doorstep to be raised by strangers. So they would likely adopt whatever culture is of the people who raised them. Again, in Pathfinder, they're also always female, so even if this didn't happen, you can't have a solely changeling community to be able to develop a culture because it wouldn't last.

Assume they are a regular race then in this universe.

Oh, I would like help in something, not mechanics or story, but setting.

So Warforged and Changelings are my favorite races ever. Like I really like them, and I'm curious what you guys think their culture is like. I have my own ideas, but I want to see what you guys think.

For the record:
Warforged are robots, like 100% robots no question. Completely sentient, but robots a wizard made.
Changelings are a race that can shapeshift into other humanoid races within reason, and specific people.

Zeus posted...

tbh, gluten intolerance is the worst kind of intolerance... well, except for all of those other forms of intolerance.

But what about gluten intolerance intolerance? :o

Oh right, I will totally play, if there's time.
Not now, maybe in like 4 hours when I get off of work though.

I don't have anything constructive to say, I just want to show up because all of the cool kids are here talking about whatever that doesn't really matter.

darcandkharg31 posted...

What system is D&D on? I don't think i've ever heard of it.

5e right now.

Do changelings count?
Because changelings.

How many classes do you have?

Now you don't have an excuse for not getting gainful employment, huh?

2012 Mayan Apocalypse is coming back!

But then what will ICOYAR complain about for no good reason?!

Go join the army then, they will be happy to have you.

All right, I did get it back to where you can easily solve it, if you want the answer to #25, ask away.
Otherwise, it's going to the backwater of the internet.

Welp, I did beat it, I don't remember exactly how I did it because I play the "guess and check" game a lot.
But, I am absolutely positive that SPOILER FOR PROBLEM #25 the center x3 is active and the ones next to it are inactive

Ah, ok. I've just been sort of winging the "which direction" part, and I did get to problem #25. I guess I am doing something right.
Also, you may want to turn your brightness down a touch, you're missing out on the background squares, and also the fun ripple effects.

Hell yeah, crosscells is awesome.
I'm just on puzzle 20 right now.

I'm now where you're at, I'm just confused why there are two correct answers for the row, getting it to 7 works and it's not a big deal and I moved on. I don't understand the 13.

Lightning Bolt posted...

Or maybe it's less about understanding the dungeon as the challenge, and more about that "directed exploration" thing. After all, once you see a chest on a high ledge to your left, you'll be looking for both stairs and paths on your left. I've never been a fan of navigation being an uninformed choice.
Uhhh... I'm not sure really what the essence of this is. Send help.

You mean when you see something and go, "I will go do that later"?
The problem is that players are trained to go, "I see something, time to go poke it". Even if there's an unscalable wall, players have actual literal magic and they can figure it out. Then you start throwing invisible walls because they shouldn't be that far, and then things get silly fast.
Zelda is still a videogame, so if for some dumb reason we can't go over a 2 foot tall fence, whatever, it's a game and that's the universe.

Hmmm, time to check this out later.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

I agree! That's why freeform RPG is the best RPG.

Well, even calvinball has rules.

People use speakers?

Yeah as much emotional termoil is going on, there absolutely will not be a civil war in any way shape or form from the fact that there is no physical location.

A civil war requires some stuff:
1. An opposite government
2. A physical location where said government is
3. A leader

Neither side has any of these things, there are prolific people, but nothing that's actually required.

Now that being said, someone could show up and a location could be staked out, but the current trajectory doesn't have that. We could devolve into anarchy, but not a civil war.