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Uglyface2 posted...

No, it's not, and I hate you for making me defend Nazis.

Then don't defend Nazis maybe?

Uglyface2 posted...

Until somebody starts making specific threats like, "We need to bomb the XYZ Building," or, "We need to kill Jane Smith," it doesn't reach the level of actionable.

Marching with torches and guns chanting about exterminating Jews is actionable. Just because they can't actually kill ALL Jews doesn't mean that the local Jews shouldn't feel threatened.

Similarly, stalking around a public synagogue with guns and swastikas during worship, as some were doing, is also an actionable threat IMO.
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Uglyface2 posted...

Shouldn't these counter-protesters call for the police?

Sure, ideally

But the police were there and refused to act.
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Uglyface2 posted...

The First Amendment is still in place, which means people with terrible ideas are still allowed to express them publicly. It doesn't protect violence.

Nazi rhetoric is violence. It goes above and beyond general racism and into being an actionable threat just by its mere public utterance
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Corrik posted...

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Corrik posted...

This typically is what happens. Everyone is labeled. See half a dozen people peddling that 100 racists were rallying in boston and 40000 members of the "Resistance" met them in force on facebook.

How would you describe it?

Since when was the rally by racists? I am under the impression they worked hard to disavow any connection at all beforehand?

I didn't see many photos of openly racist things at that rally.

I didn't see photos of hardly anyone at the rally.

It was organized by "new right" white nationalists. Not Nazis, not KKK, just the type of racist that thinks America is for white people and we need to start enacting policies to limit the growth and acceptance of non-European cultures here.

These people are repugnant and I am willing to call them racists. I am not willing to fight them with violence though, unlike the Charlottesville group. They want their white nationalism to work through government pressure, not genocide.
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Well if he's running against a Democrat, doesn't matter the odds, he can win
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Corrik posted...

This typically is what happens. Everyone is labeled. See half a dozen people peddling that 100 racists were rallying in boston and 40000 members of the "Resistance" met them in force on facebook.

How would you describe it?
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Uglyface2 posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

When that political speech is about murdering races of people, yes.

Hm. Things are only going to get worse, then.

Not necessarily

Only if they decide to keep explicitly having white supremacist rallies and cities keep letting them.

Look at Boston. Rally for abhorrent, but not genocidal views. Heavily counter-protested. Much, much more peaceful.
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When that political speech is about murdering races of people, yes.
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HaRRicH posted...

https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/899230635839172608

Wow.

GOP strategist says that after Trump's weak condemnation of white supremacy, his support among base went UP:

https://t.co/1mbsEaKrxc https://t.co/PeGshL0pVS

I wonder how they distinguish "his base" from
others.

By who they voted for?
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HaRRicH posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

https://twitter.com/seanmcelwee/status/899056806084972546

Yeah

This wasn't clear to me that the pie-chart is from that cover article. Are they from the same article for sure?

It's not. It's from the ADL, juxtaposed with the NR cover to make a point
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The rally in Phoenix is officially classified as a campaign rally!
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CNN has an interview with Kasich where he says he's not planning on trying to primary Trump in 2020 because he expects Trump "to learn and grow from the errors he's made."

Ha!

For what it's worth, I buy that he's not planning...yet. I think everyone in the GOP is just trying to hold it together to see what message voters send in 2018 first.

If that message is bad for them, then it's full speed ahead
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transcience posted...

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/farright-news-site-breitbart-mistakes-exarsenal-star-lukas-podolski-for-jetski-gangster-a3615766.html

Bannon already back hard at work!

"You guys weren't smearing people enough while I was gone!
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Vlado posted...

There will always be the odd 5 people in a crowd of 500 who carry a swastika.

Everyone knows where I stand, I just wanted to nab this incredible quote
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MenuWars posted...

Hmmm... not sure how I feel about this. I do abhor the woman sticking her fingers right in his face constantly, if he's a white supremacist sure bollocks to him, but he gave me the impression he was just someone who had family ties to the confederacy, which while not a great thing in itself doesn't mean him paying his respects should be met with being called a terrorist.

Idk... it feels off to me.

He explicitly says at the end that "they need to know that my ancestors didn't fight for slavery or oppression."

Which is a lie.

Really though that cop at the end is even worse
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https://twitter.com/seanmcelwee/status/899056806084972546

Yeah
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Well even if they're still unemployed by 2020, all Trump has to do is tell them they've had a job for a few years now and they'll believe him.
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JetJaguar posted...

Cole, O'Reilly, and Fish are already aligned. I'm not super familiar with the NXT roster, are Roddy and Hero the only other potentials or are there other guys hanging around?

Ciampa

And they've also got a voice on the announce team...
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JetJaguar posted...

Yeah I love reDRagon but best tag team of the week 10s seems like a stretch. The Young Bucks seems pretty unassailable in that department, and are you counting like...The New Day? Or indy tag teams only.

The important part of my statement was IMO
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That would explain a lot of it

Okay Gen X how do any of YOU not list 9/11?
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It's "during your lifetime."

Even if you personally are too young to remember 9/11, you sure as hell can't miss its significance.

I mean really it should be on 100% of all lists but it sticks out most there.
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LOL who are the 14% of Millennials that didn't have 9/11?
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https://twitter.com/paleofuture/status/898585002169966592

Maybe next time
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Oh god that's right, Davey is a free agent now

They're not gonna...
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Also jeez Kyle, get some sleep
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Also they have some history together as Cole and O'Reilly started out in ROH as a tag team, who then broke up and had an amazing feud.



(Also now they just need Matt Taven and WWE could re-unite The Kingdom <_<)
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ScareChan posted...

So I didn't see it yet but of course social media spoils everything

I don't follow roh but this seems kind of hype? Can someone explain how hype this was and can be

reDRagon, IMO are the best tag team of the 2010s. For all the people that have tried over the years, Kyle is the one that finally figured out how to make MMA spots work in American-style pro wrestling. Fish is a very good worker and a great personality.

Adam Cole was basically the top prospect of 5 years ago fulfilling his potential. He did all he could in ROH and now he's here and he's still in his prime.
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Gargano's the best babyface

Which is so weird since his biggest indie run was as a heel
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Women's
Almas/Gargano
McIntyre/Roode
Black/Itami
Tag Titles

Is my ranking

All good though. Tag was like ***1/2
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LOL people coming at Dave that the main should be 6 stars

It was the third best match on the show, kid
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NXT debuts must be so strange to people who don't watch other companies
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They ALMOST tricked me with that graphic going up

But he had to be here
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Heath, your turn
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It's kinda funny when they hype Roode up by saying he's been a champion everywhere he's been

That's what, TNA and NXT?
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You guys have a whole division just to play Scottish music? Neat
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Damn.

DAMN.

6th-longest reign of any type in WWE history

Who will be the one?
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Asuka staring, smiling at Bayley while she stomps the fuck out of Ember is so badass
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I think this should have mained
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LtMplusCATS posted...

Seeing this going around twitter like it just happened at the rally.

https://twitter.com/OrwellNGoode/status/898939607450099714

Would like to point out the 12:50 AM Thursday tag before we get Ulti in here flipping his shit. Even if he did get stabbed it sure as hell wasn't from today.

There are at least 6 fake pictures floating around at this point trying to make the counter-protestors look violent

Sad!
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Boston is claiming 40k people protested the rally

Wow

https://twitter.com/krangtnelson/status/899022639359864832
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SgtSphynx posted...

https://twitter.com/ava/status/898770113645559808

But that makes it about the statues, and the statues are not what the biggest outrage is about. Don't let Trump shift the argument.
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Yes, that was one of his attempts
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So what do we make of Cena's Summerslam curse?

He's lost 6 in a row and 9 out of the last 11.

Is tomorrow the time to break the streak?
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From 2006

http://www.sciencemag.org/careers/2006/03/getting-women-scientists-back-career-track-japan

Next month, Japan's government will launch a new category of grants open only to parents returning to the scientific workforce after extended childrearing breaks. It is part of a package of initiatives that also includes grants for institutions to develop schemes to help women balance research careers and family life. The underlying objective--set out in a draft 5-year policy plan--is to have women claim 25% of all new science and engineering positions at governmental institutions.

To boost the numbers, the Council for Science and Technology Policy (CSTP), the nation's highest science advisory body, set targets for the proportion of newly available permanent positions that go to women in the Third Science and Technology Basic Plan, expected to be adopted by the cabinet this month. Targets vary by field: 30% for health and life sciences, 30% for agricultural sciences, 20% for physical sciences, and 15% for engineering. The percentages are based on the proportions of women currently earning Ph.D.s in each area. "We assume that the ability of men and women are equal, so we can naturally expect that the rates [of women earning Ph.D.s] should be reflected in the rates of women becoming professors or assistant professors," says Kawamoto, who oversaw the drafting of the plan.

Glorious Nippon has shamed you, Vlado-san
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Trump has since sent out some far more reasoned tweets with takes on today

Someone must have stolen his phone
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LOL Braun

The Investor Among Men
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LordoftheMorons posted...

What the fuck is this
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/898988632551370753

Fuck you, Trump

I think praising the police is great. They did do an exemplary job here

Fuck the other part though.
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It's like I said earlier, the ones organizing them tend to be people who are very upset about the dwindling percentage of whites in the American population makeup, trying to spread their various solutions to the "problem."
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All in all it seems there were no injuries, and total arrests were 8 counter-protestors for pushing back against police as they redirected crowds forcefully to allow rally-goers safe passage,

CNN is reporting that there were *gasp* shouting matches between both sides. Good heavens.

Great job Boston!
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