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Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/19/24 4:33:06 AM #407	Thanks for autocorrecting "scummon", phone. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/19/24 4:31:35 AM #406	Also Chang seems very interested in only defending himself/defending the notion that scum doesn't have a functional bus driver, and he only started doing this the second I brought up my night 5 theory. He hasn't actually addressed virtually anything that's happened today. Absolutely reeks of a summon and deflection. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/19/24 4:28:13 AM #405	changmas posted... 4 nights with no kills and just a single stroke of coincidence, huh. scum godfather lawyer? lmfao. embarrassing that you're town saying all this tbqh. i'll leave it at that and see myself off to bed With the scum roles we've seen flip so far? Yeah no this doesn't fly. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/19/24 4:27:21 AM #404	No, I'm not done yet. There's still more. Let's wrap this up. If IGCD specifically flips scum, Kirby should target Chang. If there is a kill, Chang is clean. If there is no kill, we take the safe option and lynch Ctes. If Ctes flips 3P, Kirby blocks Chang again. Again, if there is a kill, it confirms Chang is town. If there is no kill, we still have just 1 scum left in 5 players. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/19/24 4:14:29 AM #402	changmas posted... also, obligatory please scan me i'm not trying to get mislynched tomorrow for no reason Also I'd like remind you of something I said long ago. I directly compared the way Chang used his power to the way Crescent did it as scum in FFXIV. She made a huge show of it for an entire day and hyped herself up, but ultimately completely wasted it ike Chang did with Wall. Given we have seen a scum Lawyer who can only lawyer scum, this role is not self confirming from any town angle. What I never mentioned until now is she was also godfather on top of having that "confirming" power. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/19/24 4:05:54 AM #401	changmas posted... i find it extremely difficult to believe that in 7 total nights scum has a bus driver they are allowed to use to redirect kills through protection and they have failed to kill someone no less than 4 times. Yet it is all completely explicable with just a single stroke of coincidence. We know Kirby blocked Wall sending the kill night 1. We know scum has redirection, but not how many uses. For example, I am 100% sure I have seen a scumteam have a 3 use bus drive in the past. We know both Kirby and I took actions that could have prevented a kill with or without more uses of redirection. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/19/24 3:58:05 AM #400	Let's cue up some Danganronpa music: If this scenario is correct, here's what happened. After the mass claim on day 4, scum must've known I would take the correct play and reluctantly save Ulti. To counter this, the scumteam shot directly at me, knowing Kirby certainly would not target me. Scum also bussed what they thought was Ulti's most likely target to someone he already scanned. They likely had IGCD fire this kill, and he was in almost no one's POE. MZero, perhaps on a gut feeling, targets IGCD, and forces his hand. The scumteam, containing a vulnerable IGCD (and possibly a vulnerable Chang?) is now worried, because they still expect me to stay on Ulti. On night 5, this causes them to bus Ulti with a random member of town (Death) and to shoot Death. In a stroke of luck, Kirby targets Death, redirecting his save (but not his roleblock) to Ulti. Night 6 rolls around next after an unfortunate day 6, but the scumteam is still terrified of Ulti. Some combination of Kirby and I prevent the kill, and Ulti nukes obvious Indy Ben. Ben essentially serves up IGCD as he's going down. Now it's night 7. The scumteam at this point, probably out of options, desperately shoots at Ulti and just hopes he finally dies. He doesn't, and he bakes IGCD with a scan. Now it's day 8. Ctes, who has a high chance of being Indy, is just whistling along. FD reacts significantly better than Chang, making it more likely that FD is just town. Chang doesn't say much at all, but the moment it's brought up that a bus drive could explain night 5, he immediately chimes in and tries to shut that concept down. So if this train of logic is correct, your Final Truth is Ctes/IGCD, or it's IGCD/Chang with Ctes as the third party. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/19/24 3:38:11 AM #397	Yeah I have never heard of a scum bus driver that isn't allowed to redirect it's kills. Actually, your reaction tickles me. Let me tell you what really happened night 4, and why scum used the bus the way they did. Scum shot at me. Scum did not need to use a bus drive to kill me. They attempted to redirect Ulti from Red to Ctes in order to minimize his impact. They were going to attempt use the bus to mess with him again night 5, and kill Kirby. MZero saved me with a taunt, and that's when things started to go wrong. The bus drive on night 5 was then used to attempt to kill Ulti before he landed a killer scan. The scumteam got hellishly unlucky and ended up bussing a save onto him with their shot. Then comes night 6. Perhaps the scumteam is out of bus drives and I cold saved Ulti. Perhaps Kirby roleblocked the bus driver and I saved Ulti from the kill. Perhaps Kirby blocked the kill. Lots of options here. Night 7 is a direct repeat of night 6. If the scumteam attempted to shoot me on night 4, everything logically tracks. The only thing it requires is that one perfect storm happening on night 5. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/19/24 3:20:24 AM #394	Though it's just as conceivable MZero and Kirby blocked a kill on me on nights 4 and 5. But the best comedy option of all: In that night 5 bus drive scenario, it's possible Kirby saved himself from a kill! Please let that be what happened that would be amazing. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/19/24 3:15:18 AM #393	In summary if IGCD it scum, it is conceivably possible that, ridiculous game balance aside, scum has been stopped from killing Ulti on at least two consecutive nights, and it could even be as much as four consecutive nights. And my god if that's true it's amazing. Night 4 MZero taunts the kill (though we both saved him anyway) Night 5 Scum busses him and Death, causing Kirby to save him but not roleblock him Night 6 IGCD is blocked sending the kill Night 7 Either Ctes is blocked sending the kill, or I save Ulti. The game balance is still terrible and frankly outright unfair, but this is the first time I have made a cohesive timeline of events that feels like it could work. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/19/24 3:06:45 AM #392	Wait a second. There actually is a plausible theory that's incredibly specific. We know scum used a very questionable redirect on night 4. Let's say scum actually uses the redirect to try to kill someone on night 5, and swaps that person with Death, who Kirby targeted. The hierarchy of rules is actually followed (breaking 20 years of tradition but ok). This causes Kirby's roleblock to fail, but as a result Kirby saves the target instead. This right here is something that actually could have happened. If the scumteam is IGCD and Ctes, it would mean Kirby and I combined to stop night 6 and night 7 kill attempts on Ulti. If the scumteam is IGCD and someone other than Ctes though, it doesn't explain night 7, unless they had a limited use bus and their last shot was night 5. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/19/24 2:36:57 AM #391	I'm off to bed. That question is the homework though. It would take a series of egregious misplays you know wouldn't come from me to be scum with IGCD. Not after the masterminding I did in Bloodborne at least. But I'm the only one who has any even remotely conceivable motive to no kill on night 5 (which I still wouldn't do, as I'd have offed Kirby long ago at this point, and frankly Ulti should know this). If IGCD is a member of the scumteam, why is there no kill on night 5? That's the question I'm stuck on. Balance issues aside, I can't find a satisfying answer to this question. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/19/24 2:29:59 AM #390	This however brings up a massive contradiction in game state. IGCD should never be scum for this game to have any remote sense of balance and Ulti is acting like flailing scum trying to force a team that anyone with a brain knows doesn't work. So where did the night 5 and 6 shot go? Disregarding the already questionable balance of the game, the only theory I can come up with is beyond ridiculous. Say IGCD is scum. Ctes is going to "bet" on him that night. Scum chooses to no kill hoping Ctes will kill himself. It's an utterly moronic plan. IGCD then gets blocked on night 6. And then I save Ulti on night 7. And the scumteam is then.. IGCD and Chang. Zzzz The problem is I just can't reconcile night 5 with IGCD being scum. Unless it's something as ridiculous as scum bussing Kirby onto their kill. Night 6 and night 7 are easy. Night 5 is a mess. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/19/24 2:08:00 AM #388	And GL trying to argue your way out of that one, Ulti. It's funny. By correcting my one misnoted action, FD inadvertently unpaired IGCD and I on accident. I'm the only player in the game that if scum would have definitively fired that shot, because I'm the only player that could always get away with being roleblocked firing it. Good game. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/19/24 1:58:36 AM #387	When it comes down to it though, the only person in the game I am certain isn't town is Ctes. Oh and before you I actually have another objection. I'm doctor. This is that rare situation where I always fire the kill because I can always argue I was shot at and protected. So, I object to any pairing of IGCD and I based on him being blocked sending the kill. I would've fired it because I had deniability. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/19/24 1:55:12 AM #385	Forceful_Dragon posted... For all we know the Kidnap was an Indy action? And if IGCD is Indy he didn't get his EK for free, he had to hammer 3x for it and it had to gambit on no actual town vigi to have the freedom to do so. i still find myself wondering sometimes if the 3x hammer thing was real though. It seems such a strange thing to fake but I wish I had forced him to type a ##Kill command before his hammering was done just to make sure he didn't already have a bullet that he was simply adding set dressing to make more believable. Lopen should be retroactively modkilled from this game because he openly said he was killed out of topic and it's impossible to just completely disregard it. Even without that though, the game makes absolutely no sense if IGCD is specifically scum. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/19/24 1:51:33 AM #383	Forceful_Dragon posted... Except Ctes was "supposed to" bet his life on IGCD death and he would have died that night, replacing the regularly scheduled night kill. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c5a18510.jpg So please just accept that the N7 no kill makes you look pretty good without adding extra nights or false logic that doesn't exist. If this is a performance then you're wasting it on me. Yeah except I openly discouraged people from following this plan because of how many things could go wrong with it. I had already decided to save him that night. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/19/24 1:49:00 AM #380	The problem is the scariest scenario is also completely broken from a balance perspective. The IGCD Indy and Ulti/Ctes paranoia has Ulti as vote blocker who can win tonight. Which means 4+1+1 with a scum EK, an Indy EK, and a scum vote blocker. That's somehow WORSE game balance then IGCD just being scum. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/19/24 1:45:25 AM #378	Forceful_Dragon posted... We don't know who MZero taunted that night so including him in your defense of yourself doesn't pass muster. I guess the most tempting thing about a Ctes lynch is that to me he is either scum or 3p. I have trouble really believing any version of this where he is town. So if he flips Scum then it's probably just Ctes + Ulti, and if he flips 3p then it's probably IGCD + someone. I imagine it would look something like this? https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/0/0009a39c.jpg I'm penciling in Chang as IGCD's most likely scummate in that position. Your reason's (Blade) for it not being you are pretty compelling, and if it was ever Kirby then the game is just busted. Kirby would have to be some kind of full time backup that has been using Knightz' role since day 1. But that would explain why Kirby only seems to consider his role as a blocking one rather than a protection role. Regardless I think a scum Kirby would win every single scenario I can think of so it's not worth playing around. 0% chance MZero taunts the doctor or IGCD pre vig shot on night 4. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/19/24 1:44:43 AM #377	Forceful_Dragon posted... Why do I even make the spreadsheet? Zzz https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/1d3a2859.jpg So yeah, your ultimate "we would have deliberately NoKill" defense would only really involve deliberate NoKill on Nights 5 and 7. 5 would make perfect sense. 6 is explained by the IGCD jail and 7 is the one that stands out as not making any sense. Night 5 is actually bad because the EK was supposed to cost town a mislynch opportunity. Losing that kill made the game 1 day longer guaranteed. An intentional no kill on night 5 was almost as bad as doing it on day 7. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/19/24 1:43:14 AM #376	Also the Occam's Razor night 7 to me is that Ctes got blocked sending the kill, but Ctes/IGCD also does not explain night 5. The only way IGCD is scum is if scum NKed night 5. Note I don't believe IGCD or Wall ever even consider a no kill on their own. But only Ulti or I would ever even think of a night 5 NK. And for Ulti and I to be scum with IGCD with my notes fixing requires no killing on both nights 5 and 7. I don't see how IGCD fits on a scumteam either by balance or by actions. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/19/24 1:31:47 AM #373	Uh I may have completely forgotten that Kirby claimed he jailed IGCD. My notes have him on.. Ben for some reason. But that then still doesn't explain night 7. Ulti-IGCD would've had to no kill night 7. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/19/24 1:28:57 AM #372	Forceful_Dragon posted... for starters, it would be 3 consecutive nights, not 4. You keep saying 4, it wasn't 4. MZero was killed Night 4. No kill on N5, N6, N7 N5 would have been a deliberate NoKill so you could lie and say you protected IGCD. It's a gamble depending on who gets jailed, but it allowed IGCD to misfire on the jailed target (Death) which only "confirmed" that he was saved by you. Deliberate NK. N6 would not have been a deliberate NK. You wouldn't have expected IGCD to be jailed by Kirby and if he was sending the kill then the kill was stopped. N7 though would have been a deliberate NK and you're right. That one falls apart. There is NO reason not to play for 6 alive which gives a 2 man scum team Mylo, instead of 7 alive which requires two more mislynches. So for you to be scum with IGCD it would require the No Kill on N5 to confirm both you and IGCD, and then a No Kill on N7 for WIFOM purposes just so you could say "why on earth would I no kill on 7 players alive?". I don't that is especially likely, I'm just sketching out the possibilities, but please don't repeat the misinformation about 4 nights in a row anymore. I changed it from 3 to 4 because it requires us to have shot MZero directly, who was ultimately a meaningless kill at the time. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/19/24 1:28:11 AM #371	The only way Ulti+IGCD is scum is if they've been effectively no killing for 3 consecutive nights after killing MZero directly. The only difference between that and me/IGCD is that wouldn't be leaving cop alive to scan the entire game with a scum scanning scum member just sitting there. There is no explanation for night 5 other than I saved IGCD or scum no killed. There is no explanation for night 4 for either scumteam other than shooting MZero directly for ??? Reasons. There is no explanation for nights 6 and 7 other than scum no killed (and sacrificed Lylo in the process). Indy IGCD+Scum Ulti/Ctes is my greatest fear because it means an IGCD ends the game unless Kirby blocks Ulti, which he won't. Killing MZero then IGCD is exactly what I expect from scum Ulti, but it does mean they no killed specifically at 2/8 on night 6 and Kirby blocked the kill at 2/7 on night 7. Ulti can only be scum if scum no killed specifically on night 6 because it wouldn't change the game structure the next day. There is no other explanation for night 6. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/19/24 1:18:28 AM #368	FD for IGCD and I to be scum together means we have effectively no killed on 4 consecutive nights with a cop that could scan him scum running out of targets to scan. You can immediately discount the possibility on that alone. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	2024 Premier League (Football General) Topic II
Meow1000 05/19/24 12:13:13 AM #159	Guys. Luton Town has a 99.9997% chance of being relegated. The dream isn't dead. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Fire Emblem has become.......a college course.
Meow1000 05/19/24 12:10:49 AM #14	UshiromiyaEva posted... Picture of Fates in the banner That class is cooked. Paratroopa1 posted... This is almost impressively embarrassing --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/18/24 11:33:49 PM #364	Ben's role was survivor who won with anyone. The 3P, if it exists, cannot be survivor. The classic SK is obviously out. It has to be some "odd" role. You don't fit as scum because balance reasons and your only wincon as Indy would seemingly be hammer related. FD would have to be some sort of arsonist variant, who's now locked onto Chang Ctes would be... Whatever the hell he claimed There are other "indy" roles that fit, but that's under the assumption we have one to begin with. Arsonist + Autowin with Indy feels contradictory though because wouldn't the arsonist just.... Kill him? --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/18/24 11:23:52 PM #362	IfGodCouldDie posted... And his wincon would be? Like don't get me wrong I could absolutely see him as third party too, but I don't understand what his wincon could be other than that of a survivor like Ben. Something to do with having enough correct guesses probably. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/18/24 11:14:53 PM #360	IfGodCouldDie posted... I mean what other wincon could exist without multiple night kills other than survivor? I mean for one example, if Ctes claim is real he's practically outright claimed 3P already. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/18/24 10:52:03 PM #358	IfGodCouldDie posted... Unless we are looking at a 3rd party that can win with mafia, town or 4th party as some what of a mirror of Ben's role. "You win whenever Town, Mafia, or a 3rd Party achieves their win condition." This flip is very very clear that if a 3rd Party exists, it has it's own, separate wincon, that is not related to town or scum. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/18/24 10:48:29 PM #356	UltimaterializerX posted... Your elbow is still fucked? Didnt you injure it like 6 years ago? October 5th during Blade Mafia 5. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/18/24 10:47:30 PM #355	IfGodCouldDie posted... Yea that really tracks, with this 2-1 vs 4 it doesn't matter because with the night kill you and 3rd party have the numbers to win. If there is a 3rd party, Ben's flip all but guarantees they can't win with scum. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	What is the longest a game has waited for a sequel?
Meow1000 05/18/24 10:42:28 PM #12	Man this makes Duke Nuke 'Em Forever seem like a short wait time --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/18/24 10:35:20 PM #350	So yeah my elbow still has at minimum 3 things wrong with it I have a second orthopedist recommending even more aggressive PT than the first and it's possible my elbow never gets any better than 25% disabled for the rest of my life. That's fun. IfGodCouldDie posted... More fucking backtracking for when I flip town and Ulti walks away scot free, like I said gg ulti. I mean if it's still going Ulti would just accuse me of TMIing tomorrow or something and hope everyone just forgets. Already know Kirby would immediately accuse me of TMIing. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/18/24 9:40:02 PM #320	ctesjbuvf posted... Okay but seriously, you always lynch between the guilty scan and the person claiming it right? Like, they are contradicting each other, I am the most BS copout ever. Blade is just dumb, town or scum, doesn't change the fact in this case. Already said I'm only on you because you're not town and I've been trying to lynch you for a week. I don't really care which in the end. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/18/24 9:34:24 PM #311	Like do you understand how bad 4+1+1 (almost the borderline max of 33% anti-town) is with TWO scum EKs and a town this weak? Because I don't think you do. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/18/24 9:31:22 PM #309	UltimaterializerX posted... IGCD third party with Blade town creates a massive problem, because a mafia team of 3 is so lol IGCD being scum in 4-1-1 makes this game an absolute joke that town can only win through extreme luck like someone like Knightz getting superpowered scum role. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/18/24 9:29:21 PM #304	ctesjbuvf posted... IGCD is still not voting the guy who claims a guilty scan on him. If that's not confirmation I don't know what is. Let me remind you what people linked Ulti to me with was that I could vote when he wa blocked. It no longer works yet here we are. They even forgot what they linked us with. My biggest paranoia is he's Indy and his lynch instantly wins scum the game. He knows this and feels trapped on what to do. Him being scum would be some of the worst game balance I seen in many many years. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/18/24 9:25:51 PM #300	ctesjbuvf posted... Nah, roleblock happens before redirect. Both FD and I were over how inaccurate a raw chart like that is. Roleblocks have always been redirect able unless the redirector itself is roleblocked. Unless this game changed a 20 year old rule. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/18/24 9:24:49 PM #298	Oh fun, we're back to getting posts in Mafia topics modded. My first moderation here in several years. Kirby seriously do yourself a favor and put me on block immediately after this game ends. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/18/24 9:21:32 PM #294	Really though MI was the only other person willing to call out your shit and this town decided to lynch him when he was the only possible town up for lynch. Gj guys. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/18/24 9:20:35 PM #293	UltimaterializerX posted... Red only died because I was very very sick that day. Red died because you pushed for his death. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/18/24 9:19:34 PM #291	ctesjbuvf posted... You can call it a terrible redirect. But your theory makes it a worse redirect. So it's misleading If Kirby targets Red and ends up blocking you on a kill on the redirect it gets Red immediately murdered. But that's not great either because town mislynched him anyway. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
Topic	Community Mafia Topic 18 - And 3 movies
Meow1000 05/18/24 9:15:49 PM #285	But any scumteam worth a single damn should make a much much better redirect than that. You either use it to guarantee a kill or you use it to trick Kirby into thinking he's blocking people he's not blocking. It's a terrible redirect. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
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Meow1000 05/18/24 9:11:03 PM #283	Also, Ctes having passive redirect properties doesn't work because Kirby roleblocked him sending the kill and he definitely confirmed being roleblocked. There is no logical reason for that specific redirect to exist in this game. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
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Meow1000 05/18/24 9:08:14 PM #280	That redirect still makes no sense. There's a billion ways scum could use it better than they did, yet FD would have to be lying for it to not have happened. Ulti didn't even claim to target Red that night. The redirect ultimately did nothing. So why did it exist? Neither town nor scum had any good reason to make that redirection at all. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
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Meow1000 05/18/24 9:02:51 PM #276	Forceful_Dragon posted... Ben was literally 4th Alignment this game so there's that. we should assume that there are 2 scum remaining AND a 3rd alignment. 4v1v1v13 would be the setup. We assume the kidnap on Lopen was from scum, but it could possibly have been from the 3p. But the 4th alignment won with either town or scum, so a hypothetical 3rd alignment would have to win alone somehow and it's hard to understand how. They haven't demonstrated any ability to kill unless it doesn't activate until the entire scum team is gone. I guess it could be Ctes and he automatically wins after he gets a certain number of bets correctly if he's telling the truth about his betting? But he's claimed to have lost every bet. Ctes is far and away the most likely 3P if a 3P exists but I think it's a trap because 4+1+1 with an EK and a town this weak would be an abomination of Mafia balance. He's been the most obvious not-town in the game for eons. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
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Meow1000 05/18/24 9:00:14 PM #273	I said it before Death even flipped that if Death flipped town there was no room on the scumteam for FD's power. The only thing FD could possibly have been is an Indy. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
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Meow1000 05/18/24 8:54:18 PM #268	ctesjbuvf posted... Yeah he has contradicted himself a billion times but he knows what guilty means. UltimaterializerX posted... The biggest point in Blades favor is the night kills. Isquen, SBell, and (presumably) God? I cant see him signing off on those. How does town with a scum scan on IGCD operating on logic that demands scum no killed that night make this sentence? This reads like someone who knows IGCD was shot at night 5 while simultaneously arguing scum no killed. --- Never underestimate the power of stupidity in numbers. ~War13104 Never stoop to the level of idiots. They will drag you down and beat you with experience.
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