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People that have put out mostly good games but because they allow some lgbt characters and minorities in those games some gamers think they are the devil incarnate

Hes whatever, I dont mind him but I've never really seen him add an interesting perspective onto any given discussion, he usually just regurgitates the most popular take on any given issue. Never seen him go against the grain on anything.

I'll try it this time I guess.

FortuneCookie posted...

They eventually canonized it, so you can pretend it was always regarded as canon by them. They definitely disowned it for a while.

They didn't tho lol.

They didn't acknowledge it, but they never decanonized it. Fiege was asked multiple times and danced around the answer because he wasn't sure if everything with the new stuff was finalized and probably due to rights issues.

STEROLIZER posted...

Elsa her entire gimmick is red hair. Thats all you needed to do. But her hair is black. WTF? Does hair dye not exist or something?

No, her gimmick is that she kills monsters , hunts vampires, and is a badass. Her red hair is literally not important to any of those things.

This is the type of complaint I rope in with fortune cookies grievances, nd you'd be surprised how many mcu watchers have stuff like this. Its like saying Willim Dafoe is a bad goblin because he doesn't have cornrows.

ClayGuida posted...

idk, he was Thor's bitch for Avengers, Iron Man's bitch in Avengers 2, Thor's bitch in Ragnarok, and then Thanos' bitch in Infinity War. He really didn't do anything of note fighting wise in Endgame from what I recall.

Thor didn't beat him in either film, he subdued him for a time, but thats it.

The entire avengers team is scared of him, iron man beat him while he was brainwashed and dazed.

Like what do you think he should have killed iron man in the middle of avengers 2?

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

Peter and Strange are both incredibly intelligent and crafty. Youre telling me that some of the most intelligent superheroes couldnt have a small conversation discussing the ramifications and implications of the spell? And no, Peter is still very much a kid. Hes not Spider-man here fighting a villain with his powers, hes peter trying to maintain his secret identity and protect his friends and family.

Which is what spider man does lmao. Hes always protecting people.

Hes intelligent, but hes not always wise. Those are different things. He was desperate and he was speaking on a subject he was ill informed on, magic.

It was basicslly a misunderstanding that caused it, and thats totally believable.

It was a plot convenience that needed to happen for the movies plot,.

So is the empire letting the escape pod fall to tattooing despite knowing full well that droids exist.

Doesn't make the movie bad.

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

You can dislike the way a character is handled even though theyre strong lmao. What kind of argument is this?

A Strange whos been sorcerer supreme for several years should not have created the situation he did in No Way Home. A master of mystical arts should not be easily convinced by a child to create world ending catastrophes

He didn't create the situation, Peter did bu screwing up his spell.

Dr strange is arrogant af, he could he convinced by a lot of people to do things... and he was absolutely right that he could do it. But Peter screwed up.

You either weren't paying attention or dont understand characterization. And Peter's not a child; he's a soldier who died fighting a war for the universe a couple years ago. Hes far from a child at this point, he's a superhero in his own right.

lilORANG posted...

Hulk had an amazing showing in the first Avengers

Hulk had an amazing showing in everything he was in up til infinity war.

Ain't no way yaol saying strnage now lmao hes top 5 strongest characters they've shown.

The last movie had an alt strange literally soloing Thanos and NWH showed he has the ability to wipe the minds of every human on earth and undo it at will; not to mention travel dimensions through the multiverse freely

FortuneCookie posted...

It went from

"Canon? We can neither confirm nor deny."

to

"Those shows on Netflix? Fuck 'em."

Except the part where this never happened?

It actuslly went from

"Its def canon"

To "its def canon?"

To "its def canon lol"

Bey did a country song way back on lemonade and its the best song on the album

Necronmon posted...

In Far From Home he's not in America for most of the movie...yah...

I mean 3, hes in NYC for the entirety of 3.

Yes hes outside of his environment in movie 2.... which is kinda the point.

Smashingpmkns posted...

No Way Home relied way too much on nostalgia and the story sucked. The mcu Spider-Man was outshined

Lol. Nostalgia was a bonus, that was hollands se movie through and through and he went through more in that movie than most mcu characters period in a single film.

He outsmart doctor strange, helps save 5 or 6 villains, and sacrifices everything to save the universe. In no way is anyone otushining him, hes the one who guides the story from beginning to end. He literally leads the other two spider men who have no experience in a team setting.

Meanwhile in rami Peter loses his powers because he feels sad for like half of a movie. Literally thats the plot, he just loses his powers because he's feeling sad. If the mcu pulled a storyline like this you'd be yelling from the rooftops, you give raimi a pass because of nostalgia.

In SM3 he solved the problem of Harry Osborn by literslly giving him brain damage, then just hides the truth from his best friend after that, until his butler after like 5 years decides to reveal to his master how his dad actually died. Don't even get me started on emo Peter and wifebeater Peter.

Necronmon posted...

Holland's movies were always so weak they always needed someone else to prop him...first Tony...then Fury...then the freaking other Spiderman.

Fury is in FFH for like 5 minutes, Tony is in homecoming even less than that. Please lol.

Vulture was ok but Mystero sucked...mocking the idea of a Multiverse before...the Multiverse did happen.

Mysterio was pitch perfect if you actually know anything about mysterio. He does in that movie exactly what mysterious does in anything mysterio. Hes a deceiver with an ego.

And he relied so much on Tony's stuff that they had to reboot it to put him where Spiderman normally is...implying they realized how far off course he was as Spiderman.

What does this even mean? Rhey didn't reboot anything. They gave you a longer version of his origin story. In each film he learns a crucial lesson that he will need to be spider man. That was always the plan, we followed his journey from day one to him becoming the hero we know he is.

Most of all...he's hardly in New York for most of his own movies...not really in one, not at all in two and only a little like 3...feeling even more far off then what Spiderman is suppose to be.

Hes in NYC for the entirety of 1 and 2 lmao. He spends like 20 minutes in Washington in movie 1, everything else is NY.

Between that and how many beyond dumb choices he made in his movies it was hard to have much but contempt for Holland.

Spider man always makes dumb choices, even in the raimi films. He makes dumb choices in the comics constantly, in every era. Hes a screw-up, but he never gives up.

Again, pure nostalgia talking. If you love spider man, you love hollandaise version. If you have one singular idea for what spider man should he and its based on something not comcis spider man, then you may have a problem with it. But this spider man was never trying to be that version you liked.

Smashingpmkns posted...

Idgaf if he's the closest to the comics (he's still really not all that close lol) if his movies are mediocre. No Way Home is just as bad as 3 if not worse

Lmfso no.

No way home is an excellent Spider-Man movies, and excellent superhero movie, an excellent movie. Not perfect by any means but unless you got fortune cookie type expectations i don't see what else you could want from a spidey film.

In fact across the spider verse features several of the same plot elements and no one argues thats a bad movie.

Smashingpmkns posted...

1 and 2 shit all over MCU spider-man movies. MCU Spider-Man is boring.

Hes the closest to the comics version of the character and its not close.

You wanna talk about changes to the material? Raimi films straight up changed how his powers work completely, added in a bunch of "rules" to his powers that make no sense, and frature ginormous plot holes.

2 and 1 are great, ill even defend 3, but the MCU films are easily better spidey movies without nostalgia goggles.

The raimi films get forigven for doing things that of done today on a cbm; people would riot. I mean right of the bat his wall crawling ability being because of literal quills on his fingers makes zero sense, his body straight up creating new glands to make web fluid is nonsensical, and I could go on.

NWH is a classic stan lee Steve ditko spider man story in ways no other love action film achieved. It's a microcosm of the character entire mythos and modus operandi.

The hilarious part is a lot of these folks with all these stipulations have never picked up a comic book

It was insane seeing all these taskmaster "purists" spring up when black widow came out when they only knew him from a 15 year old video game and nothing else

Like you're a couple butterfly flaps away from not even noticing this character was originally a dude, why are you so pressed

If you think fortune cookies takes are bad keep in mind most mcu watchefs are exactly like his but have some other ultimately non important grievance with a movie/character that "ruins" it for them and then the discourse surrounding the mcu makes a lot more sense.

StealThisSheen posted...

The MCU kinda caused its own problem. People expect tie-ins and Avenger-esque buildups. Currently, there are no such buildups. Yes, characters have appeared in each other's movies, but there's nothing suggesting other heroes are seeking out or want to team up with Shangchi, for example. He just kinda did his own thing, and hasn't even really been referenced since.

The point is you have to kinda consider how people are going to relate things to MCU of the past, where literally everything tied together within a movie or two. Shang Chi is a movie that released a few years ago and, outside of the references it makes within itself, ultimately exists in isolation. Shang Chi referenced other movies, but there aren't really any other movies that reference Shang Chi.

Except I pointed out to you thats not true. Doctor strange is completely isolated and aside from a plot thread from civil war black panther is completely isolated.

Iron man 3 features no mcu cameos until the very end, all 3 guardians movies have zero connection to the other earth heroes.

Its not even a problem. Certain projects require more crossovering some don't at all.

Rharyx211 posted...

Recently saw a post from the actor who played the villain in that movie saying he tried to get out of doing the reshoots for that movie since he hated being on it so badly. It's a really bad movie.

That's not what he said. He said he thought he delivered strong performances the first time and didn't want to do reshoots. He never said he hated the movie.

The movies also solid and one of the better solo films marvel put out especially recently

Robot2600 posted...

black widow that movie was actually horrible

That movie characterized mcu widow perfectly, and she remains completely underrated and misunderstood by most viewers.

TheGoldenEel posted...

not to mention, its only been 2.5 years since the last film

we know they're making a sequel too

so, what, he hasn't popped in any of the not-as-good shows and movies in that time? big deal

Yeah its dumb.

There was 6 years between black panther 1 and 2, there was 6 years between doctor strange 1 and 2, and 5 years between the last Thor movies.

Like be patient lol

Blue_Popo posted...

This is not true. They became canon recently when daredevil new series wasnt

Thsts false. They were always canon and never decanonized. Even the original DD script was just going to soft reboot not full on contradict the prior.

We've known for sure DD was canon since NWH, the leaked synopsis confirms that. But it was never actually decanonized, none of the shoes were. They jsut existed in a state of uncertainty.

StealThisSheen posted...

Shang Chi, arguably. His movie feels way too self-contained.

I dont get this.

When they make a hero super tied to the mcu, then ppl say it feels like homework.

When they say make a movie self contained then people say its not connected enough.

The first dr strange and black panther movies are more isolated lol.

Shang chi features abomination, Bruce banner, captain marvel and wong.

luigi33 posted...

Itz funny cuz Asmongold has taken 2 political tests and he always lands somewhere in the Libetarian left side.

Thats how you know he's grifting

hereforemnant posted...

Charlie is about as close as it comes to being left leaning centrist honestly. Idk if he's started to turn because I never see transphobic stuff, anti-women things; he hates the red pill/Andrew Tate type of content. He comes off more liberal leaning than rightoid. I think only one time he did something that rubbed me the wrong way, & I can't recall what it was right now.

I'll edit this if I remember. But even recently with the "streamers have harder work than retail/service people" drama. Charlie was the only one saying the opposite of Hasan/Destiny/Asmongold, that's worth something.

Charlie isn't going to turn.

He doesn't give af.

Most of his content is reacting to what other people do, he hasn't pushed even a single right wing thing. Hes just not actively abrasive or antagonistic to conservatives.

Prestoff posted...

I'm not going to deny this board does have an unhealthy obession with calling anything right leaning/trump supporting "alt-right", but you're not doing yourself any favors using Russell Brand and Aba and Preach as not alt right.

Aba and preach is most certainly not alt right lmao.

They clown on MGTO and manosphere channels all day, they just don't like the fake virtue signal types you see running celebrities off Twitter.

Asmon isn't even alt right, he's basically alt right adjacent.

Unfortunately "woke" terminology has reached the main stream, saying it doesn't automatically indicate you're a delusional election denier.

That being said most of these games are pretty good and a few have sold exceptionsly well so in what way were they ruined lol

Xenogears15 posted...

Somewhat related, as he's been popping across my feed lately: is that moistcritcal guy an alt-right shithead, too?

Hes bssicslly a slightly left leaning centrist but he doesn't really pspt his politics all that much

James Gunn says the leaked image is fake

RISEofCHRISTIAN posted...

don't like the "S" logo
don't like the red panties returning
the blue is too bright
the cape is too short

4/10

Snyder fan spotted

Makeveli_lives posted...

https://twitter.com/blurayangel/status/1763301291089141839?s=46&t=MclOgjiC_DZiKahxLVoZDg

Got to see it in action but

No. Nope. Nuh uh.

I dont want to hear ANY complaints about this gd perfect superman suit.

Why are there all of a sudden 3 topics about Michelin stars in the front page by 3 different accounts?

ButteryMales posted...

Biden will just lose. Nothing of the breakdown of that poll Emblem has posted has shown otherwise.

The election isn't for 9 months. That poll is not representative of the entire voting base nor where their sentiments will lie in 8 months.

How does that deserve a "this". People say there are supposed reasons but no one will say them.

We cant give you a world history lesson here.

Literslly look on the map and see who Israel is in proximity to and that they are the primary foothold the US has in that area and you've got a big reason there.

Theres much more to it beyond that, but again your gonna have to do some research.

Dark_Arbron posted...

Theres no reason to think about this because its never going to happen. Death, taxes, the US backs Israel with bipartisan support.

This. Israel is the USs military base in the Middle East that happens to have civilians living in it.

Yea, and you can criticize Biden for his actions or lack theorof because he's the guy in the chair but the next 50 people in line are not going to do much different. Think about who Israel is in proximity to on all directions and how devastating it would be for the US to lose that foothold

No US leader is going to damage the alliance with Israel, any time soon. Its simply not going to happen, short of something truly drastic or catastrophic happening.

ButteryMales posted...

Can you tell us the reasons? A lot of the things we do in the Middle East have been miserable failures since our turning our backs after we trained and armed the Mujahaden to repel the Russians.

I domt believe i could fit the details of the us and Israel relationship and its ins and outs in an entire thread here let alone this post nor am I fully qualified. You're gonna have to do some of your own research for that.

What I do know is its an important alliance, has been for a long while and probably will remain so.

Very important Biden Voters 26% Dems 24% Independents 24%
Well you might be right. This might mean Biden is going to lose either way though Emblem's poll is from January.

Im not really in the mind of calling it one way or the other but I disagree. I think he's still got a chance, and i actually think he's not the underdog here, but I. Not willing to call anything til I see how this trump trial plays out.

No one calling for ceasefire who hasn't actually thought past what that actually looks like or what happens after is equipped to have a conversation on that matter. A lot of people want a ceasefire, that doesnt mean this shouldn't be handed delicately.

The reality is that the US and Israel alliance goes back very far and is crucial for their presence in the middle east or any myriad number of reasons.

Claiming that Biden can just casually cut off aid and accuse them of a genocide and that somehow will have zero repercussions on the next election, the one after that, and foreign policy for potential decades is naive.

This is a delicate, serious issue and it should be treated like one. Too much is a stake screening up the handling of this.

Especially when the US has been in israels position in the past and has acted similarly.

Those ads were very obviously ai lmao

Im pretty much going to immeidtaly scrutinize any media using ai to advertise itself.

Amocat posted...

This reminds me, I have to renew my Tier 3 subscription for Hasan tomorrow

Imagine paying money to a guy who's already rich and shills for putin in exchange for nothing but having babies first socialist takes regurgitated to you in between the tankie takes

Couldn't be me

Comfy_Pillow posted...

Dudes be bootlicking for a fake socialist harder than any capitalist

Internet progressives stan almost if not harder than right wing grifter fans. It just depends on which one they get their favorite opinions from. They'll downplay almost anything if they've been viewing a person for a while. Idk if itd sunk cost fallacy or what

Torgo posted...

Wrong and dishonest as is every post you ever make.

No, the meme about calling socialists hypocritical because they participate in the only economic system

Which in itself id dishonest because I was never doing this. Nor was anyone else here.

But you know your positions are emotional and unsupported

Projection. Next.

Torgo posted...

Thankfully we have you to decide how much people should be allowed to participate in the systems we are all born into and subject to.

So Hasan is above any and all scrutiny. Got it.

Please, tell us the dollar amounts a socialist may spend and on what foods and services.

Missing the point intentionally yet again.

Strawmans arent gonna address the point

Torgo posted...

It has nothing to do with you or me.

You made it about me by asking me a pointed question about a given scenario.

How do people expect someone to live as a socialist when our reality is hyper capitalism in it's late stage death spiral?

The notion that socialism isn't possible as a lifestyle nor a practice is entirely fanciful. We have even had the government enact socialist adjacent policies.

Besides, no one asked him to "live as a socislist". But he's not simply existing in the capitalist zeitgeist, you could argue he is thriving in it and wholeheartedly supporting its continued existence in his lifestyle. I dotn see Greta thunberg driving bugattis, wearing designer clothes and whatnot.

Theres entire magnitudes of degree to which someone can exist within a capitalist environment without doing what he's doing. It would be like comparing me to Elon Musk because I own a smartphone.

I ask these people how they would go about living as a capitalist under a communist or highly socialist they disagree with.

Its basically happened before. You theoretically could do if you to remove ethics from the equation and create value out of your capital via exploration rather than engaging with the rest of the system.

But that's also not the point is it? Because that assumes capitalism and socialism are opposite equals, and they really aren't. Cspitalism for all of its flaws alloedna large amounf of individual discretion in how exuberant they make their life out to be, provided they have enough wealth to provide for the basics. If I have 5 million dollars, I dont HAVE go buy a million dollar home. I csn live in the exact same apartment and drive the exact same car I currently do.

Its only ever: "I see you participate in the system we were all born into, gotcha commiez!"

You're making the same mistake many othes are, equating participation and active patronage. Everyone has to participate, not everyone has to do what Hasan is doing, even if they are able to. And again, its not so much that he is committing heinous crimes of exploitation but that all of his moral grandstanding on his platform rings hollow when you see how he lives.

Hypcorisy doesn't require a certain level of scale if just requires that you dont live up to the principles you mete out. You're employing the same logic people do when they say folks who say defend the police shouldn't call the police when there's a crime. Its a strawman.

Diddy doesn't surprise me

Cuba Gooding Jr? Tf?

ssb_yunglink2 posted...

What exactly do you wish to accomplish by not voting?

I never declared i was or wasn't voting.

Im against not voting being treated like some unthinkable decision if someone doesn't like either candidate lol.

Again, democracy means that the peoples preference is represented. At some point that has to be acknowledged, especially if some peope have strong issues with what they are seeing in the candidates. This is supposed to have the effect of incentivizing better candidates to spring up.