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Previous Results:

Day 60 Results: Aerosmith - 16 votes

23 Dream On
11 I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing
10 Cryin'
7 Sweet Emotion
6 Love in an Elevator
4 Livin' on the Edge
4 Rats in the Cellar
4 Janie's Got a Gun
4 Train Kept A-Rollin'
3 Crazy
3 Draw the Line

No other song received more than 2 points. 17 songs were represented.

Top 10 songs so far:

59 Bohemian Rhapsody
56 Don't Stop Me Now
49 Everlong
33 Billie Jean
32 One
32 The Pretender
31 Smooth Criminal
30 Jumper
30 Stan
29 Semi-Charmed Life

Previous Winners:

Day 1: 57 Queen - Bohemian Rhapsody
Day 2: 25 The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
Day 3: 26 Motörhead - Ace of Spades
Day 4: 48 Foo Fighters - Everlong
Day 5: 12 Joy Division - Atmosphere
Day 6: 17 Radiohead - Paranoid Android
Day 7: 19 OutKast - B.O.B.
Day 8: 15 The Beatles - Yesterday
Day 9: 15 David Bowie - "Heroes"
Day 10: 18 Pearl Jam - Even Flow
Day 11: 32 Metallica - One
Day 12: 7 Incubus - Aqueous Transmission
Day 13: 17 The Beach Boys - God Only Knows
Day 14: 19 Rush - Tom Sawyer
Day 15: 15 Blink 182 - What's My Age Again
Day 16: 3 The Pillows - Carnival
Day 17: 14 DragonForce - Through the Fire and Flames
Day 18: 10 Nirvana - The Man Who Sold the World
Day 19: 15 Kanye West - All Falls Down
Day 20: 12 The Offspring - Self-Esteem
Day 21: 18 Avenged Sevenfold - Afterlife
Day 22: 19 The Smiths - How Soon is Now
Day 23: 21 Green Day - Good Riddance (Time of Your Life)
Day 24: 21 Coldplay - Clocks
Day 25: 21 Pixies - Where Is My Mind
Day 26: 15 Wu-Tang Clan - C.R.E.A.M.
Day 27: 30 Eminem - Stan
Day 28: 10 Tupac Shakur - Changes
Day 29: 27 3 Doors Down - Kryptonite
Day 30: 9 311 - Come Original
Day 31: 13 50 Cent - 21 Questions
Day 32: 10 A Perfect Circle - The Outsider
Day 33: 7 Three Days Grace - Animal I Have Become
Day 34: 7 AFI - Girl's Not Grey
Day 35: 20 ABBA - Dancing Queen
Day 36: 13 The Band - The Weight
Day 37: 25 Guns N' Roses - Welcome to the Jungle
Day 38: 25 Red Hot Chili Peppers - Snow (Hey Oh)
Day 39: 15 The Clash - Rock the Casbah
Day 40: 28 Third Eye Blind - Jumper
Day 41: 18 Linkin Park - In the End
Day 42: 8 Van Morrison - Wild Night
Day 43: 13 Prince - When Doves Cry
Day 44: 13 Animal Collective - Brother Sport
Day 45: 5 Blind Guardian - Mirror Mirror
Day 46: 21 Beastie Boys - Intergalactic
Day 47: 19 Led Zeppelin - Stairway to Heaven
Day 48: 33 Michael Jackson - Billie Jean
Day 49: 17 Nine Inch Nails - Hurt
Day 50: 6 A Tribe Called Quest - Award Tour
Day 51: 11 Eagles - Hotel California
Day 52: 17 System of a Down - Toxicity
Day 53: 16 Rage Against the Machine - Guerrilla Radio
Day 54: 23 Lady Gaga - Bad Romance
Day 55: 22 Journey - Don't Stop Believin'
Day 56: 12 Breaking Benjamin - Firefly
Day 57: 9 AC/DC - Back in Black
Day 58: 20 Jay-Z - Heart of the City
Day 59: 26 Daft Punk - One More Time
Day 60: 23 Aerosmith - Dream On

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Welcome to the newest take on this topic series!

Rules:
- Obvious contest rules apply (no alts, one vote per person, no rallying, etc.). I reserve the right to change and enforce the rules at my discretion.
- Voting lasts indefinitely. A new topic will be put up every weekday and sometimes on weekends, but you will be allowed to vote retroactively for any band that we have done previously. Just list the band(s) you are voting for in your post.
- Please do not delete your post, but editing your vote is fine. You may not edit your vote after the next voting topic starts, however. Your votes will not be edited or removed retroactively.
- If you have voted today or are a regular participant, feel free to nominate a band/artist! You may nominate 2 bands per topic, but you may not nominate the same band more than once. The band with the most nominations will go next in line.
- Discussion is encouraged, but please keep it civil and respect the tastes of other users. I know not everyone likes the same kinds of music but try to be nice.
- Please vote for songs only found in Studio Albums, EPs, Singles, or other official recordings. I will not normally accept votes for any other songs(but if you make a good case I may change my mind). Songs in which the artist is featured are not eligible for vote.
- Voting is done in the format of +3, +2, +1. I will explain further and give examples of how you can vote below:

You may choose to give points to up to 3 songs by the selected band or artist. The more songs you rank, the more points you can give!

For example, let's say that the the band to be ranked is Mouse Rat. If I were ranking my top 3, I would present them in this format:

+3 The Pit
+2 5000 Candles in the Wind
+1 Sex Hair

If another user only knew or wanted to rank 1 song from the band, he would vote in this manner:

+1 November

The users who have a better familiarity with the artist will have more influence than users who only know one song. That way, the best song (but not necessarily the most well known song) hopefully wins.

I'm always open to suggestions on how to run this contest, so feel free to give me your input. With that said, let's get started!

Today's Band: Muse
Discography: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muse_discography

Next: Bob Dylan


Vote form:

+3
+2
+1

Let the votes begin. Nominate the next band that you would like to see!

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Vote for Aerosmith in the new topic:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/63106761

You can vote for any band featured so far.

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+3 Train Kept A-Rollin'
+2 Sweet Emotion
+1 Dream On

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I run a grimer

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It's only a big deal if you make it a big deal

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I'm sorry, I must have forgotten that the religious affiliation of rookie MLB players was the hot topic now.

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Oh cool that could lead to an order of a back 9

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From: Procrastinater | #006

who updates past 6?

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From: UltimaterializerX | #015

Wow are you people kidding me with this awful Nintendo crap?

*posts Square crap*

>_>

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I would love for him to get nom'd

but i doubt it will happen

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That's pretty much stretching it as much as possible Ed

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i don't know if best but it's good

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Tornadoman78 (tc)
get a job get a life
Posted 6/14/2012 10:55:19 AM
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ya go my nick offerman

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up

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why dont more people care

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ok

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From: red sox 777 | #046

Only Romney or Obama will be elected this year, so a vote for anyone else is worthless.

Well yeah because everyone has attitudes like that!

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People do realize that the player controls Lara Croft, right?

I mean, is it still misogynistic if the player is female?

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From: red sox 777 | #039

Yeah, in that case it doesn't matter how they vote.

Except it does because people who don't make the effort are deceived into thinking that there is a false dilemma--GOP or Dem.

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From: azuarc | #175

I don't like looking at women strictly as fragile creatures who need a man's protection

I'm pretty sure she goes the whole game protecting herself, so I'm still not sure where these sentiments come from.

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If you vote without bothering to do research, then yes you are stupid or less intelligent. You may still be intelligent enough to understand the issues, but if you fail to comprehend them you are doing a disservice by voting and that is stupid

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From: GuessMyUserName | #001

and the guy working at eb discouraged me from purchasing lolli.

I read that as "loli" and thought good man

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I am being elitist when I say that intelligent people are better than less intelligent people.

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I don't know how to look at the list

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Wait I forget that user ranks exists sometimes

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There are lizards running all over the property where I live. It's pretty neat.

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Oh, of course people are too stupid to process what politicians and pundits say to them. And we still encourage them to vote!

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nintendo decided instead of making gamestop exclusive games they would make not-gamestop exclusive games

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From: the_champ999 | #014

But if you eat the cake, then it's inside you, and really, is jewelry supposed to be inside or outside a jewelry box?

Is jewelry supposed to be inside or outside your body

oh wait

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I thought this topic was for the James Cameron movie and was confused.

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I think he meant scripted show

But then again its WWE so.. (ohohoho)

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XD I like where this topic is going

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is ngirl feminist?

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"people" should not be construed as "all people," but I do think the majority of people will choose gameplay over story. I will be the first to admit that a good story can help a game with struggling gameplay, or that a terrible story can drag good mechanics down, but in the end, they are video games. We play them and the interactivity of it is what causes us to choose games over TV or books or whatever.

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From: yoshifan823 | #155

character building

Mario game

wat

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From: KanzarisKelshen | #143

Not always, though. Take a look at Planescape. One of the mechanics is that you never truly die - if you die you are reborn later. You actually use this to bypass a trap early on, and then to disarm a special gadget. This is enthralling, you see. I don't see why gaming can't have more of that. Hell, if memory doesn't fail me, some FPS' have done things like these and had pretty alright stories. Not ones that will win the Literature Nobel, but good enough to stand up to any scrutiny.

Does that mean they should stop trying? One of the things I like about the Tomb Raider game is that it looks like it is going to try out some very mature themes. Could they mishandle it? Sure! It's likely the story won't be that great, but I'm not really going to hold it against them, because at least they are trying!

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From: yoshifan823 | #139

t might, if this was a movie we were talking about. But in a video game, when you put the character in the hands of a player, they turn into a highly capable killing machine almost immediately. That will, odds are, in the moment right after that attempted rape, when Lara shoots a guy for the first time. And from then on, she turns into Female Nathan Drake, cracking wise and blowing guys up.

How can you even know this? Have you played the finished game already? Just because the game is portrayed in a specific way by marketing doesn't mean that is how the game actually is. For a lot of games, the marketing isn't even representative of the finished product!

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From: KanzarisKelshen | #129

Counterpoint: Myth. Those games also mostly divorce story from gameplay and tell an excellent tale. They're Real-Time Tactical Games. jRPGs aren't special and we shouldn't excuse bad writing because of them. They're just games like any others. Any sort of game can tell an amazing story. It just requires a good writer who uses the medium properly.

Exactly. So we've established here that the stories that people enjoy and are great quality usually have to be mostly divorced from the gameplay. There may be plenty of JRPGs with good writing, because it's much more doable to write a story that does not have to shoehorn in the implications from the gameplay.

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From: KanzarisKelshen | #125

Or you get Xenogears (you can make arguments about Disk 2 - I'll accept the obvious callout because it was murdered by lack of budget and deadlines). It doesn't have the most stellar mechanics ever, but it doesn't need 'em. The story of it IS the main draw, and it's pretty damn good.

JRPGs are a separate beast entirely. I can't think of any other video game genre that so entirely removes the story-telling elements from the gameplay. They practically are two different things. You watch some story, and then play a game that is related to the story but is not the story at all, then repeat. There is a reason that LPs of JRPGs are so popular. Many people don't really need to even play the game to enjoy the story.

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It was fun when I played it.

Probably wouldn't play either of those games again

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I was being extreme to make a point. The Uncharted games rank among my favorite games ever partly because they tell a fun and exciting story. The story is enjoyable, but won't win any awards for being excellent writing. But I would never go into a video game looking for an award-winning story because that's an unrealistic expectation.

When you focus so much on the story, you get Heavy Rain. It might be great but the more you focus on the story, the less it becomes a game because you can't really have the quality of story you are looking for when the main character is constantly shooting people and solving puzzles and other things that video game convention calls for.

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From: yoshifan823 | #098

She wasn't the best character, but at least she was a proactive, confident woman who could deal with her own ****.

She was a pair of boobs holding guns

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From: KanzarisKelshen | #094

We have to hold EVERY GAME to a higher standard. Videogames should evolve as a medium and have stories as good as books or the more thought-provoking movies if they're trying to tell a story instead of just prepping some dressing for the mechanics.

Video games are ALL ABOUT the mechanics! Nobody will buy a video game for the story if they don't like the mechanics. Video games are not primarily a story-telling medium, and they never will be. That's why we call them "games!" Do you open up your game of monopoly or chess looking for an engrossing story?

There are reasons that movies, books, etc. still exist and are popular and always will be. They are primarily storytelling mediums and nobody goes to a movie looking for gameplay.

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If you are looking towards video games for quality writing you are looking at the wrong place imo

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From: KanzarisKelshen | #084

From: swordz9 | #078

KanzarisKelshen posted...

Tomb Raider. You know, the previous ones where Lara was a sex object?

My first post had "Having never played a Tomb Raider game" in it. If that's all they've done I've never played anything by them so I don't know what quality anything in it is whether it's writing or gameplay.

Right. I have. So I know the quality of their stories, and it's...not amazing. Incidentally, I'd urge you to check 'em out. They're pretty decent games, just...not shining paragons of storytelling at all.

So now you are saying that you know that video games have subpar writing (that's pretty much a given in the medium) but we have to hold Tomb Raider to some higher standard?

From: DSAutoResponder | #079

So I don't understand why the fact that this is something that happens all the time in real life and is completely believable is not fair grounds for a video game. Once again, obviously the character doesn't get raped because you can't put that in a video game and expect to sell it in stores.

it doesn't make sense to have your action hero get almost raped! rape is something that completely removes one's agency and sense of empowerment. using as one of a long list of "hardships" for your heroine is cheap and undermines the seriousness of it. the whole "well she's going to be broken down over and over again and you'll want to coddle her" angle is total garbage from word go. who wants to play as a character like that?

We have seen action hero characters get tortured, beaten, and maimed. Being subjected to torture "completely removes one's agency and sense of empowerment" and yet is common fare for the action genre.

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From: yoshifan823 | #065

KingButz posted...

From: yoshifan823 | #038

Try making a game where there's a threat of a man getting raped. Advertise that fact almost a year before it comes out. See the kind of reaction and sales you get.

If this was in a believable situation (because insert a man into the same situation and it's no longer believable), I don't think the reaction would be nearly as ridiculous because nobody would really care about a male character.

Wait, so men don't get raped? Or in this particular situation, a man wouldn't get raped? What if the person were gay? Or, what if, like a vast majority of other rapes, this one isn't a sexual attraction, but a power play, meant to prove superiority over the person that is being dominated?

And I'm sure if there were a game with a scene similar to this, but with a man, there would be massive uproar. Saying people don't care about male characters is stupid, considering games like the Uncharted series, or Assassin's Creed, where the character is one of the selling points.

Way to twist everything I said. Men do get raped, but in different situations than women. If I walk alone through a bad neighborhood in the middle of the night, I can expect to get mugged, beaten or killed. The likelihood of me, a young man, being raped, is almost negligible, except perhaps as an afterthought. In the situation presented in the game, the female character is alone on an island with a bunch of savage men. If it were a male character, what would be the chances of him being stuck on an island with a bunch of savage gay men? That sounds absolutely ridiculous.

You know what I mean when I say people don't care about male characters. People don't flip their s*** about male characters the way they do about females.

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