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From: ninkendo | #400
I want an Iron Man match

surely the best in the world would win that

Bah, Iron Man matches are highly overrated IMO. Just give them a singles match that happens to go 40 minutes.

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Del Rio was traded from Raw to SD "for future considerations" though. Maybe they CAN move Bryan to Raw tonight and do a blowoff between him and Punk.

Because there's not really anything left for Bryan on SD, especially now that Big Show has lost the IC Title.

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And yeah, Jericho putting his job on the line is probably the only realistic way they can extend things 3 more weeks.

I don't think it works if it's "Loser Leaves Town" necessarily, just Jericho's career.

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Well he showed last night that even if they won't tap he can still get falls via submission.

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That's not History Repeating Itself though, that's History Amending Itself.

Alternatively: "Once in a Decade"

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TLC buyrates didn't drop any more than the normal 2011 PPV drop, so they know that No Cena doesn't necessarily destroy PPV success. Dunno about ratings.

Man, last night was such a great show to wake up and reminisce about, but Raw can't come fast enough. Where DO they go from here? If Cena is gone, then there's NO ONE left for Punk until you get down to Lord Tensai.

Sure, Brock could DEMAND an undeserved title shot, but I think they're saving that for Summerslam at the earliest.

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From: Rad Link 5 | #367
Little People's Court is my favorite thing he's ever done.

Hey now, EVERYONE loved him as Little Bastard when he was nothing more than Finlay's magical leprechaun that he presumably captured somehow to assist him in cheating.

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Although I've never really had much of a problem with Hornswoggle.

Little People's Court was an abomination, and I hate it when he signs up for matches of his own free will and then we're supposed to feel bad when heels legally hurt him, but other than that he's never really bothered me that much.

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Yes

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You probably could win UotY on a platform of Hornswoggle Torture

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https://twitter.com/#!/JohnCena/status/196814457006071808

There's something incredibly ridiculous about this Tweet but in an awesome way.

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From: DeathChicken | #333
Who else is there to even constitute the rest? Alicia and...Alicia?

Beth, Natalya, Aksana, Kharma, Tamina, etc.

I think Natalya's pretty hot though.

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Don't forget Cameron and Naomi either!

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I don't think it's fair to lump Rosa in with "the rest."

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Top Six Board Eight Trolls

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WWE.com fell asleep at the pun wheel.

These are all fine:
"Randy Makes Kane's Fall Count."
"Rhodes Turns Tables On Big Show"
"Punk Takes the Fight Out of Jericho"

Plays on the names of the matches, yes yes.

But then...

"The Great White Outlasts Bryan"

LAAAAAME

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Although if Maria Menounos counts then her.

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Layla objectively, though I would personally pick AJ. <3

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Cena vs. Brock is kinda hard to rate because on a technical level it was very sloppy, but the uber-stiffness was kinda the point.

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UPDATED WWE PPV MATCH STREAKS
CM Punk: 17 (Royal Rumble 2011)
Dolph Ziggler: 9 (Night of Champions 2011)
Cody Rhodes: 9 (Night of Champions 2011)
Big Show: 7 (Vengeance 2011)
Daniel Bryan: 5 (TLC: Tables, Ladders, and Chairs 2011)

4 (Royal Rumble 2012)
John Cena
Kane
Chris Jericho

2 (Wrestlemania XXVIII)
Sheamus
Randy Orton

1 (Extreme Rules 2012)
Brodus Clay
Aaron Relic
Jay Hatton
Ryback
Nikki Bella
Layla
Brock Lesnar


Some big streaks broken as Kofi, Beth, Swagger, and Miz all drop off after 6+ PPVs in a row.

I predict long streaks for Jay Hatton and Aaron Relic.

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Punk vs. Jericho > Cena vs. Brock > Sheamus vs. Bryan

All 3 were excellent, I agree.

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Sometime in the gap between UFC 149 and UFC 150. I've been watching 2 older numbered UFC events (plus smaller cards) in-between every real-time UFC numbered event since UFC 100, if that makes any sense. UFC 150 is the end of the project.

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Haven't gotten to that one yet, it was on the very last UFC show before I started watching MMA @ UFC 100, so it'll be the last show I watch on my 3 year project to watch all of UFC/PRIDE history this summer. I've been eagerly awaiting it!

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How about a Lesnar/Ryback power couple. <__<

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From: Lopen | #285
UFC is so hit or miss for me. The good fights are really entertaining but... wow when they're bad they're bad. 8 times out of 10 UFC groundfighting are the most boring thing to watch in sports.

I love groundwork a lot more than most standup. I'll take a jiu-jitsu/wrestling based match over a kickboxing/muay thai match usually. As long as the guys are WORKING it's all good though.

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Yeah, while what we saw ON-SCREEN was just a "hilarious" recreation of Kane's crime, performed by Triple H, I always felt like the storyline was implying that Kane actually did f*** her after she died in the car crash.

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From: TimJab | #259
kane's plan did include having sex with a corpse though

Once again I must be Douchey McNitpick and point out that Katie Vick was an incident that happened prior to Kane joining WWE, that Triple H merely unearthed.

...unless you're calling Lita a corpse I guess.

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Now now now, to be absolutely 100% fair to that stupid storyline, Kane specifically said that his 10 year master plan started at Summerslam 2000.

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Kane I forget, but he got the rematch against Angle by throwing a hissy fit and not showing up for 2 weeks in protest until he got one.

Much like Bret Hart's 1997 heel turn, an oddly prescient angle considering what would later happen in real life.

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It's the holy grail of the lazy writing staff, so probably around...2003?

I'm trying to think back to Champions of that time. Going back to 2002, none of these Champions got an immediate rematch: Jericho, Triple H, Hogan, Taker, Rock, Brock, Big Show, HBK. That is in fact all of them (except Triple H did get a rematch after losing to Shawn in the Chamber, the one exception). It's safe to say that trope didn't exist then.

Fast forward to 2003. Angle got a rematch against Brock. Brock got a rematch against Angle. Triple H got a rematch against Goldberg. Goldberg never got a rematch.

2004: Brock never got a rematch (due to retirement), Triple H got one, Eddie got one, Benoit got one...I forget whether or not Orton got one.

(and then in 2005 JBL and Triple H both got one, and those were the only title losses that year)

But that's enough evidence for me to confidently state that the concept began in 2003.

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Hey, now that they did that Tupac hologram concert, they can do Gotch/Hackenschmidt all over again for a new century.

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Too bad no one ever does a WCW Reunion show.

(insert TNA joke here)

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2016 isn't the 20th Anniversary of anything notable in ECW history

Although it is the 15th anniversary of their death!

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Next year is the 20th Anniversary of ECW existing though, which gives them (in their minds) a reasonable excuse to do more!

And then 2014 will be the 20th Anniversary of The Night the Line Was Crossed and the name change from Eastern to Extreme.

And then 2017 will be the 20th Anniversary of Barely Legal

Etc.

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In all seriousness though, I hope Sabu is okay, and I hope Justin Credible gets help.

If anyone can botch the leap of faith into the afterlife, it's Sabu.

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I'm not sure you really want to see the boobs of women that feel compelled to attend an ECW reunion show 11 years after it died.

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It's kinda funny that WWE has done more to immortalize ECW as legendary than the ex-ECW wrestlers have.

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Although I guess the proper response is...

#thanksmick

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Why couldn't they just let it rest in peace after One Night Stand '05?

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Shane Douglas, best promoter.

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Something that Storm didn't mention that I thought was kinda strange:

Why were all the heels bending over backwards for Eric? Why are they so loyal to a man who no longer has any power to assist them anywhere in the industry?

Gunner I can maybe grant having that level of genuine loyalty for a guy who gave him his first big break, but Bully Ray? Flair? Daniels? Kazarian? WTF do they care that Bischoff gets a Rolex and sits on a throne on his way out the door. They're all hyper self-interested.

I really think it would have meant MORE to see them all turn their backs on Bischoff now that he was impotent, demonstrating with absolute clarity exactly the sort of person he was and the company he kept.

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Lance Storm breaks down what went wrong with TNA Open Fight Night.

This line in particular struck me:
"Did we really need a new concept in order to book matches like Brooke vs. Gail? Could that match not be booked just because it made sense?"

...he's absolutely 100% right. WTF is the point of the "open challenge" part of Open Fight Night?

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Gotta make sure the Tag Division is properly rehabbed first or you might be sending them out there to get ghetto-ized as "tag team wrestlers"

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My first thought was 2009 Tyler Reks back when he was a surfer dude.

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And then Zack Ryder could be Sting, i.e. the popular do-gooder who keeps getting double-crossed by these bastards but never learns from it.

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Plus we've already had a stable where Orton lead some guys. <_<

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From: Rad Link 5 | #165
If Ziggler hadn't spent so much of his career so far as a jobber, he'd some like the best fit for Flair.

From a credibility standpoint I agree, but I do also think from a character standpoint that Dolph Ziggler is not a leader of men. He's not necessarily a follower either, but I see him finding Tully's niche in the group far easier than I can see him taking command of three other people.

I think Cody may at least possess more natural leadership.

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Those two put the "flunk" in "flunkies!"

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Jericho could pull it off. He's never really had flunkies before, besides Lance Cade.

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