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TopicSo how is Mass Effect 3?
HeroDelTiempo17
03/12/12 11:35:00 PM
#34
yes, probably

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TopicSo how is Mass Effect 3?
HeroDelTiempo17
03/12/12 11:26:00 PM
#31
SIGN

Spoilers and whatnot ahead

















First of all, the actual ending had some good ideas (using the mass relays to defeat the Reapers was brilliant, for example), but the actual execution was very poor. Shepard's actions themselves aren't necessarily inconsistent, nor are any of the other characters. You're absolutely right about the series being about breaking out of the cycle. But the remaining theme the ending presents goes against the rest of the series. The space god you meet gives you these choices as he explains that the reason this is happening is because organics are doomed to be destroyed by synthetics. This is a statement that it is possible to actively prove wrong during the course of the game by uniting the Quarians and Geth, the latter of which are extremely friendly towards the former after their conflict is resolved. In addition, the main conflict of the series was NEVER about organics vs. synthetics; it was about the Reapers - or some hidden avatar of destruction - versus all of sentient life, including the geth. The geth were used as pawns by the Reapers in both ME1 and ME3, but in the ending they're suddenly lumped in on being on the opposing side. What was the point of introducing Legion in ME2 and being able to give the geth souls in ME3 if they were unequivocally "the enemy" no matter what all along? It's such a blatant turnaround of the themes of the series - the unity of all life organic AND machine in the face of unstoppable destruction. I don't see how you can argue how THAT'S consistent.

There's a bit of inconsistency in the ending options though: even though Shepard, regardless of alignment, just spent the last ten minutes talking to Illusive Man about why controlling the Reapers is an awful idea, TIM's pathway is color-coded blue, for Paragon. Meanwhile, Anderson acts as the proxy for the "destroy" ending, which has been the goal of Paragon and Renegade Shepard for the entire game. And this one is colored red - for Renegade, and now must operate on the flawed principle of the creator gods and destroy ALL synthetic life.

Then there's just the bizarre stuff that doesn't fit at all. Like Joker and your squadmates crash landing on that planet. I'm supposed to believe they just ran away in Shepard's final hour? Plus, no matter what you do, the mass relays are destroyed. So even though you might have cured the Krogan genophage, or got the Quarians their homeworld back, they're all stuck in the Sol system now! The LITERAL deus-ex-machina that appears in the last five minutes, apparently the plan of the ancients all along!....somehow. Stuff like that is what got people upset - the idea that Bioware didn't think out their own endings properly. They were good ideas executed poorly.

































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TopicMass Effect 3 Topic v3 -- Spoil the game, and I'll genophage you.
HeroDelTiempo17
03/12/12 10:23:00 PM
#395
Missing on purpose so good.

We know who to call when there's a Bottle Rebellion.

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TopicSo how is Mass Effect 3?
HeroDelTiempo17
03/12/12 10:18:00 PM
#20

From: the icon ownz all | #012
I'm satisfied by an internally consistent narrative. Mass Effect 3 is an internally consistent narrative.


Well a lot of people would disagree that the resolution was consistent with the rest of the universe, myself included. <_<

Anyways ME3 is still probably the best game in the series, but as people are saying as the end to a trilogy the conclusion leaves a LOT to be desired.

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TopicThe Official Tales of Graces F Topic [tales][angelo][ltm][spoilers]
HeroDelTiempo17
03/12/12 10:13:00 PM
#9
Tag

Get out of class at 12:15 tomorrow. I'll have plenty of time to play this in between studying for my test. :D

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TopicMass Effect 3 Topic v3 -- Spoil the game, and I'll genophage you.
HeroDelTiempo17
03/12/12 9:46:00 PM
#374
Wow, that sucks. So did PS3 players miss out on Conrad, too?

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TopicLeonhart Plays Mass Effect 3! (SPOILERS)
HeroDelTiempo17
03/12/12 9:37:00 PM
#497
Yeah they also never said anything for me. I was kind of disappointed, but it's good to know that they at least had some conversations even if they were just bugged for me.

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TopicSpoil Tales of Symphonia for me *spoilers*
HeroDelTiempo17
03/12/12 9:25:00 PM
#4
MASSIVE TALES OF SYMPHONIA SPOILERS































Lloyd lied. It was actually iced coffee.


































END SPOILERS

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TopicMass Effect 3 Topic v3 -- Spoil the game, and I'll genophage you.
HeroDelTiempo17
03/12/12 9:21:00 PM
#353
The only conversation I remember with Kaiden is one where he ended with "I CAN'T STOP GRINNING" and that's all he would say to you until the mission.

Uh...okay, Kaiden. So ****ing creepy.

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TopicMass Effect 3 Topic v3 -- Spoil the game, and I'll genophage you.
HeroDelTiempo17
03/12/12 9:14:00 PM
#340

From: GranzonEx | #339
Everyone introduced in this game should stay in the ship.


Whoa, hold on there.

Prothy the Prothean is top tier.

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TopicMass Effect 3 Topic v3 -- Spoil the game, and I'll genophage you.
HeroDelTiempo17
03/12/12 8:52:00 PM
#325
Oh did someone else die to that guy too? I thought I was the only one. <_______<

by which I mean, Surprise Marauder

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TopicMass Effect 3 Topic v3 -- Spoil the game, and I'll genophage you.
HeroDelTiempo17
03/12/12 6:25:00 PM
#286
The worst part is that the ending they left in would have been fine if only they'd have ironed out the details and added an epilogue. You know, put effort into it.

As it is it's just bad writing.

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TopicSouth Park returns this week starting with "Reverse Cowgirl"
HeroDelTiempo17
03/12/12 6:22:00 PM
#11
Ugly Americans is great!

That said I am sort of surprised it is still on the air, as it doesn't seem to be very popular.

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TopicHomestuck General Discussion: Hello Dante
HeroDelTiempo17
03/12/12 6:15:00 PM
#409

From: SemiFinal vs Belarus | #406
even in the god tier hoodies every character is bound to get some version of, eridan remains the best designed troll


Wroooooooong, pupa. :::;)

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TopicHomestuck General Discussion: Hello Dante
HeroDelTiempo17
03/12/12 6:04:00 PM
#402
Eridan is wearing fingerless gloves

Even in death, and as a god, he never stops being a hipster toolbox.

And I wouldn't have it any other way.

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TopicMass Effect 3 Topic v3 -- Spoil the game, and I'll genophage you.
HeroDelTiempo17
03/12/12 4:49:00 PM
#270

From: Psycho_Kenshin | #264
All righty, I'm about to land on Thessia for the first time, how close am I to the end of the game folks?

Level 52, pretty much everything is full, on one hand it would feel kinda short if I'm near the end but I dunno.


After Thessia there are only three more missions. And be careful because when you go to the second of those three missions, there's a point of no return.

And yeah it seems short but it took me 30 hours, so I guess I just played the hell out of it.

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TopicWho else is getting Tales of Graces f next week?
HeroDelTiempo17
03/12/12 4:04:00 PM
#95
Woo, got my text from Gamestop telling me it'll be available in the morning! :D

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TopicMass Effect 3 Topic v3 -- Spoil the game, and I'll genophage you.
HeroDelTiempo17
03/12/12 3:52:00 PM
#252

From: futuresuperstar | #241
What happened to Grunt, by the way? He came out of the cave covered in blood after kicking Ravager ass, but I haven't seen him since.


Apparently he can die there, which is why he doesn't have any scenes after that. It's supposedly dependent on his loyalty from ME2.

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TopicI saw Jurassic Bark today for the first time *Futurama spoilers*
HeroDelTiempo17
03/12/12 2:20:00 PM
#31
Uh, what did it change about Luck of the Fryrish? Didn't it just...show that Fry's brother and his son existed? <_<

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TopicMass Effect 3 Topic v3 -- Spoil the game, and I'll genophage you.
HeroDelTiempo17
03/12/12 1:48:00 PM
#219
It's a five second addon to ONE of the possible colors - err, endings that you can choose from.

not worth it

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TopicMario Party 9 is the best-rated game in the series since the first one.
HeroDelTiempo17
03/12/12 7:59:00 AM
#4
Isn't it supposedly spectacularly awful?

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TopicMass Effect Anime Time [Anime James Vega]
HeroDelTiempo17
03/12/12 7:51:00 AM
#2
.....what the hell is "Forever Normandy" supposed to mean

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TopicComics Topic Forever: More Turtles, less purge. And more Turtles. [turtles]
HeroDelTiempo17
03/12/12 7:45:00 AM
#284
Isn't Frankenstein also supposed to be joining the JLI?

I might have to start reading that.

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TopicSHINE continues to read Homestuck because LtM bought me El Shaddai
HeroDelTiempo17
03/12/12 6:56:00 AM
#302
I thought the pictures were really cool!

Maybe a bit text-heavy but I didn't mind.

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TopicHomestuck General Discussion: Hello Dante
HeroDelTiempo17
03/12/12 6:42:00 AM
#390
I wonder if Karkat has run into any of the Oldtrolls.

THAT would be awkward.

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TopicLeonhart Plays Mass Effect 3! (SPOILERS)
HeroDelTiempo17
03/11/12 10:17:00 PM
#466

From: LeonhartFour | #465
I'm pretty sure you can Renegade him and convince him not to spread the genophage cure. KoolAid told me he did it on his file.


In the scene I saw, the only choice is to shoot him. Trying to talk him down only made him more committed to curing the Krogan, and then...Renegate QTE.

Granted I only saw a video on youtube so I don't know if there's another option or one that depends on choices you made in ME2.

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TopicI'm glad AMC decided it is inappropriate to show kids shooting adults.
HeroDelTiempo17
03/11/12 10:04:00 PM
#9
That sounds pretty lame. I couldn't wait to see the original sequence turn up in the show because I always thought it would be something TV audiences wouldn't be ready for. I guess I was right. <_< But it could have been done so well...

Man if that got cut, things don't bode well for some of the stuff with the Governor.

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TopicNew Epic Meal Time video: Mass Effect.
HeroDelTiempo17
03/11/12 9:55:00 PM
#4
Oh there it goes.

amazing

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TopicNew Epic Meal Time video: Mass Effect.
HeroDelTiempo17
03/11/12 9:53:00 PM
#3
augh why is there no audio for me

it's just this video

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TopicI'm glad AMC decided it is inappropriate to show kids shooting adults.
HeroDelTiempo17
03/11/12 9:52:00 PM
#5
Probably not. I'm so far behind and I haven't heard anything about it that makes me want to catch up enough to go back to it.

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TopicI'm glad AMC decided it is inappropriate to show kids shooting adults.
HeroDelTiempo17
03/11/12 9:33:00 PM
#3
Really?

That's one of the first big "holy s***" moments of the series!

please tell me they didn't cut it

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TopicI saw Jurassic Bark today for the first time *Futurama spoilers*
HeroDelTiempo17
03/11/12 9:29:00 PM
#9

From: JDTAY | #005
Most fans I know actually think Jurassic Bark's ending is a cheap tear-grab, whereas Luck of the Fryrish is truly sentimental.


This. The rest of the episode was pretty funny (one of the funniest episodes, actually) but the ending was sad for no reason.

Luck of the Fryrish wasn't as sad but the emotion had purpose and was really well-written.

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TopicI want to talk more about the Resident Evil 6 logo
HeroDelTiempo17
03/11/12 8:02:00 PM
#2
People say it's photoshopped because there is a version that was photoshopped to look even more like the woman and the giraffe. The regular version still looks like it, but not as much.

Of course, it's hard to tell if the version you posted is it or not because either way once you see it, you can't unsee it. <____<

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Topiclol people who feel entitled to the dumbest things
HeroDelTiempo17
03/11/12 7:15:00 PM
#17
The problem is that the ending is pretty much creatively bankrupt and is a result of Bioware writing themselves into a corner and not caring how they got out of it. Like...if you put more than five minutes of thought into the ending at all, it doesn't hold up, or make any sense, or anything. It's bad writing. And to me that makes it seem like Bioware themselves didn't put any thought into the ending, or just didn't care.

I think the fans definitely have a right to be upset over it because the ending just craps over the entire series.

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TopicHomestuck General Discussion: Hello Dante
HeroDelTiempo17
03/11/12 5:59:00 PM
#378

From: Maniac64 | #374
I love that this is going to be a circular conversation where we actually see CCG become FCG.


Yeah, and CCG seems pretty chill while FCG is really angry. I wonder what Karkat does to piss himself off so much.

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TopicHomestuck General Discussion: Hello Dante
HeroDelTiempo17
03/11/12 5:47:00 PM
#371

From: tereziWright | #370
Yes

YESSSSSSSS


Y3S

Y3S

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TopicMass Effect 3 Topic v3 -- Spoil the game, and I'll genophage you.
HeroDelTiempo17
03/11/12 5:42:00 PM
#156
who cares about kelly or traynor, both are so boring

EDIT: see I even got the other one's name wrong
I've played 30 hours of this damn game in the last four days
so bland

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TopicLeonhart Plays Mass Effect 3! (SPOILERS)
HeroDelTiempo17
03/11/12 5:41:00 PM
#449

From: LeonhartFour | #446
No, he doesn't say that. Shepard asks him if he is the Citadel, and he says that's inaccurate.


Well, he does say that the Citadel is part of him, which I guess is a subtle distinction.

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TopicMass Effect 3 Topic v3 -- Spoil the game, and I'll genophage you.
HeroDelTiempo17
03/11/12 3:30:00 PM
#125

From: TheRock1525 | #122
Although it would be pretty awesome if Mass Effect 3 became "The Adventures of Joker."


Maybe that's what Mass Effect 4 will be.

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TopicMass Effect 3 Topic v3 -- Spoil the game, and I'll genophage you.
HeroDelTiempo17
03/11/12 3:18:00 PM
#117
Yeah you can't kill off everyone. I think the minimum amount of people you need for Shepard to survive is two.

So...I dunno. Recruit as few people as possible, get only two of them loyal, and make the wrong choices during the mission? It might work.

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TopicLeonhart Plays Mass Effect 3! (SPOILERS)
HeroDelTiempo17
03/11/12 12:06:00 PM
#442
In my mind, it turns out that the Crucible was actually a way to turn the Citadel into a giant fighting robot, and the final boss fight is you wrestling Harbinger on Earth, which destroys most of it but looks super cool. Then you fly through the galaxy and pierce the reapers with your drill. Because why the hell not, they're already basically the anti-spirals.

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TopicLeonhart Plays Mass Effect 3! (SPOILERS)
HeroDelTiempo17
03/11/12 11:56:00 AM
#434

From: ShadowHalo17 | #428
Only if you have a high enough readiness rating too.

But even so I just didn't like the whole Catalyst being a god controlling the Reapers thing. It was almost out of nowhere. And these games have always had a positive outlook on humans and synthetics working together, I mean s***, they even have a human and an AI hook up in this game. Now you're telling me synthetics and humans can't live together? What? Stop contradicting everything I've come to know god dammit.


Not only that, but he's this magic god of Reapers. He gives you these three options, but can't he just, you know, turn them off? And not only that, but I'm supposed to believe that the purpose of the Crucible wasn't a weapon, but a machine to wake up the magic god that lives inside the Citadel (or to take him literally - IS the Citadel)? Where does something like that even come from? What scientists discovered this crap? augh

Of the three endings, I also like Synthesis the best (not to say it's good. Only because Control admits that the Illusive Man was right, and screw that. And Destroy means that you kill EDI and the geth, rendering Legion's sacrifice irrelevant (just like all the other choices in the game lololol).

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TopicMass Effect 3 Topic v3 -- Spoil the game, and I'll genophage you.
HeroDelTiempo17
03/11/12 11:48:00 AM
#104
Yeah, for that segment, the "normal" paragon/renegade options both save his squad, and the ones that require Reputation both save him. It's weird.

ME3 seems to have a lot of choices like that, where the distinction between the two doesn't matter as much.

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TopicLeonhart Plays Mass Effect 3! (SPOILERS)
HeroDelTiempo17
03/11/12 11:34:00 AM
#423

From: TheKoolAidShoto | #412


why did they cut this


Most of that is in the game except for them talking about their families. What's left is still a very touching scene IMO. Game could have ended right there and I would have been fine.

Still don't know why that part was cut. It's cheesy as hell but that obviously isn't a problem considering the scene immediately afterward involves a magic space god who is awful at his job.

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TopicMass Effect 3 Topic v3 -- Spoil the game, and I'll genophage you.
HeroDelTiempo17
03/11/12 11:22:00 AM
#90

From: LeonhartFour | #087
Technically, one of those missions WILL end badly if you don't do it promptly.


Which one was this? Thessia?

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TopicMass Effect 3 Topic v3 -- Spoil the game, and I'll genophage you.
HeroDelTiempo17
03/11/12 11:16:00 AM
#86

From: ShadowHalo17 | #084
On the whole sidequests thing, I like how they have it set up in this game. Cerberus is attacking a station, go save the station quickly. Enemies aren't going to wait for you to come and hinder their plans.


I think the problem is that the same could technically apply to the story missions as well. Each mission you get they talk about how urgent it is.

"Oh yeah, the turian fleet is just getting decimated by Reapers and they really need Krogan support, but sure, yeah, go do sidequests. The turians aren't going anywhere, but Jack is."

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TopicLeonhart Plays Mass Effect 3! (SPOILERS)
HeroDelTiempo17
03/11/12 10:20:00 AM
#407

From: baron von toast | #405
Speaking of sidequests, something else I wanted to inquire about. Minos Wasteland (I think) was flashing for me as though it had a mission but there was nothing there. A planet was marked with its name but had no mission and nothing to scan for. What's up with that?


I also got this bug. No idea what causes it, and it doesn't seem to affect anything...

Maybe it's indicative of some future DLC? I have no idea.

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TopicI just beat Mass Effect 3. Thoughts. SPOILERS
HeroDelTiempo17
03/11/12 10:13:00 AM
#10

From: GranzonEx | #008
But we get giant explosion and the Normandy trying to escape the solar system? WHY?


Hey, it was worse for me. I romanced Liara and she was part of my final squad. In the ending, suddenly she's on the Normandy with Joker and EDI, and also a robot???

so dumb

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TopicI just beat Mass Effect 3. Thoughts. SPOILERS
HeroDelTiempo17
03/11/12 10:12:00 AM
#9
Yeah no boss fight against Harbinger is absolute bulls***. They name dropped him SO MUCH that I expected him to do more than shoot at you a few times then go "WELP, LOOKS LIKE I'M DONE HERE" and fly up into the sky like a f***ing piece of garbage.

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TopicLeonhart Plays Mass Effect 3! (SPOILERS)
HeroDelTiempo17
03/11/12 10:10:00 AM
#404

From: baron von toast | #401
Also I wasn't able to use the final persuasion options on TIM. What gives? My reputation was maxed and then some. Not paragon enough?


My girlfriend had this problem and I heard a lot of other people did as well. You probably either didn't do enough sidequests or didn't talk to your squadmates enough...or something else that affects Reputation. You definitely don't need to be 100% Paragon or Renegade. I was at something like 1/3 Renegade 2/3 Paragon and I was able to do it fine. You just need max Reputation.

If you really wan tto know what happens, not much changes. TIM pulls a Saren and there's a nice scene with Anderson before he dies anyways.

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