Family can probably still sue
Im trying to understand the situation. So was the assailant armed? If so, with what? The cop who fired, I saw in the body cam he fired three shots at the suspect. So one of them missed, hit the wall, went through, and killed the girl on the other side? Im not sure Ive ever given a cop the benefit of the doubtbut if he was trying to stop an armed assailant and didnt know there was anyone on the other side of the wallI dont know.
Im still down for disarming the average cop, but if the one with the rifle was part of a tactical response unitthat wouldnt help much. This definitely isnt your average case of reckless cop shoots kid though. Without the freeze frame pointing out the dressing room wall, Im not sure I would have noticed it. Then again, from the body cam dialogue, the cop did seem too eager to lead the charge with the rifle, so Im not quite sure what was going on.
Who was he and why did he have the rifle?
I remember this case. Pretty disappointing outcome.
The guys weapon was a cable lock. Trained officers should be able to physically restrain a perpetrator wielding a bike lock without the use of deadly force.Wow. Okay, screw that cop, and thank you for the clarification.
Im trying to understand the situation. So was the assailant armed? If so, with what? The cop who fired, I saw in the body cam he fired three shots at the suspect. So one of them missed, hit the wall, went through, and killed the girl on the other side? Im not sure Ive ever given a cop the benefit of the doubtbut if he was trying to stop an armed assailant and didnt know there was anyone on the other side of the wallI dont know.If anyone else shot recklessly and killed someone behind a wall they would 1000% be charged for it regardless. This piece of shit should be in prison.
Im still down for disarming the average cop, but if the one with the rifle was part of a tactical response unitthat wouldnt help much. This definitely isnt your average case of reckless cop shoots kid though. Without the freeze frame pointing out the dressing room wall, Im not sure I would have noticed it. Then again, from the body cam dialogue, the cop did seem too eager to lead the charge with the rifle, so Im not quite sure what was going on.
Who was he and why did he have the rifle?
If anyone else shot recklessly and killed someone behind a wall they would 1000% be charged for it regardless. This piece of shit should be in prison.It's because of how much power Police Unions have. And something called Qualified Immunity which makes cops virtually unaccountable no matter what they do. American cops only have like 6 months training and then are given power over life and death
It's because of how much power Police Unions have. And something called Qualified Immunity which makes cops virtually unaccountable no matter what they do. American cops only have like 6 months training and then are given power over life and death
In Germany I think it's multiple years of training to be a police officer. It's insane that America doesn't see a problem here
You're increasing barriers to entryWe can make American cops train as long as Germany
keep in mind, being a cop here now means being under the microscope. A lot of cities are having a problem with filling open positions.
So you can either
1) have inadequate officers
2) have no officers if you increase barriers to entry
While there's a sizable "defund the police" movement, I personally am a fan of having police. A semblance of law and order is better in my opinion than anarchy.
it's a broken system for sure but no one here is exactly coming up with realistic solutions, so....
You're increasing barriers to entryThis is a very short sighted view of things. You know there are more than two options, right?
keep in mind, being a cop here now means being under the microscope. A lot of cities are having a problem with filling open positions.
So you can either
1) have inadequate officers
2) have no officers if you increase barriers to entry
While there's a sizable "defund the police" movement, I personally am a fan of having police. A semblance of law and order is better in my opinion than anarchy.
it's a broken system for sure but no one here is exactly coming up with realistic solutions, so....
You're increasing barriers to entrygood
keep in mind, being a cop here now means being under the microscope. A lot of cities are having a problem with filling open positions.
So you can either
1) have inadequate officers
2) have no officers if you increase barriers to entry
While there's a sizable "defund the police" movement, I personally am a fan of having police. A semblance of law and order is better in my opinion than anarchy.
it's a broken system for sure but no one here is exactly coming up with realistic solutions, so....
Every officer involved shooting that results in someone's death should skip the "do we file charges?" phase and proceed straight to the officer in the court being arraigned on charges of criminally negligent homicide at a bare minimum.
Fuck cops, the justice system is fundamentally broken
I'd say doordash drivers put their lives at risk more regularly than those chumps in uniform
he didnt have to be shot even he charged towards the cops. These cops are too damn trigger happy.
keep in mind, being a cop here now means being under the microscope.
And prosecuted by someone(s) whose only job is to go after misconduct by people in the system. No more of that "we have to play nice with the bad cops because next week they're witnesses in four other cases".
The guys weapon was a cable lock. Trained officers should be able to physically restrain a perpetrator wielding a bike lock without the use of deadly force.Have you considered that the officers probably feared for their lives? That makes any and all measure of response A-ok!
I remember seeing a video of a dude holding an ax by himself in the woods getting shot a handful of times because someone in the area had reportedly hit a building with his ax earlier in the day. Dude wasnt anywhere near a distance where he couldve done damage with the ax, but god forbid a cop pass up a chance to shoot a dude.That's the case there the cop announced "shots fired" like he's in a video game, right?
This didn't call for a high powered rifle and I think she would have survived if not for the rifleI disagree, but its also too damn tragic for me to want to formulate a response or argue.
In California it takes more hours to become a licensed cosmetologist than it does a copThis is also sad, and I doubt most states are any better.
I know Johannes Mehserle was one of the most egregious shootings, and they only got a little over a year in prison. There was also Patrick Feaster that was equally horrible, and he never even had charges pressed. Both were caught on video essentially executing the victim.There's also Daniel Shaver's killers.
There's also Daniel Shaver's killers.And he gets extra pension I think for supposedly being traumatized over becoming a murderer
That was the one where they executed a sobbing, begging, unarmed man who was crawling towards them and trying to make sense of the nonsensical and contradictory orders they were shouting at him for daring to reach down and pull his shorts up because they were falling down.
After they were cleared, one of the murderers fled the country to Thailand (as all innocent people do), and the triggerman himself (who literally had "You're fucked" etched into his gun) was reinstated to the police force long enough to earn his pension, so the widow gets to know that her taxes are helping support the man who made her a widow and her children fatherless.
There's also Daniel Shaver's killers.Watched the video, didnt know about that one. Absolutely tragic.
It is funny how the don't tread on people, are the people in the front of the line to lick this shit up.As horrible as it is, shootings like this and the others listed are very helpful in persuading people I know on a personal basis that there needs to be more accountability for cops. Cases where the suspect was on drugs or had a gunthose are a really tough sell.
The suspect was armed with a fucking bike lock. There was no reason for these cops to go in with massive rifles. Handguns would be sufficient.
And again, the suspect was holding a damn bike lock, he didnt have to be shot even he charged towards the cops. These cops are too damn trigger happy.