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El_Dustino
11/10/25 8:25:16 AM
#404:


Calling the idea of Dems being controlled opposition ridiculous is ridiculous at this point.

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Doe
11/10/25 8:25:29 AM
#405:


BiggCoolDaddy posted...
They know shit that we don't know though.
No, they don't.

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gikos
11/10/25 8:26:41 AM
#406:


they know jack shit. we have seen this song and dance of caving to the GOP and their pinky promise which they never hold it and breaking it every freaking time


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asdf8562
11/10/25 8:27:59 AM
#407:


Primary the 7 Dems who cave. But dont characterize this as the party caved when it was less than 10.
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El_Dustino
11/10/25 8:29:22 AM
#408:


asdf8562 posted...
Primary the 7 Dems who cave. But dont characterize this as the party caved when it was less than 10.
There were always just enough.

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Unknown5uspect
11/10/25 8:30:04 AM
#409:


gikos posted...
they know jack shit. we have seen this song and dance of caving to the GOP and their pinky promise which they never hold it and breaking it every freaking time
And the millions of people going without food because they lost their SNAP benefits? Go fuck themselves?

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asdf8562
11/10/25 8:30:35 AM
#410:


El_Dustino posted...
There were always just enough.
Literally doesnt change what I said. Less than 10 caving isnt, "the Democrat Party caving."

Attack and primary the less than 7. Dont be disingenuous and claim "the entire party caved."

But I digress as I know the usuals will act like the majority caved, regardless.
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BiggCoolDaddy
11/10/25 8:32:22 AM
#411:


Doe posted...
No, they don't.

I didn't say don't be pissed off and worried. I said don't give into negativity and lose hope. If there is one damn thing we know, it is that Trump will fuck something up by next month and all this dooming will seem trivial. Rinse and repeat man.
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El_Dustino
11/10/25 8:34:12 AM
#412:


asdf8562 posted...
Literally doesnt change what I said. Less than 10 caving isnt, "the Democrat Party caving."

It does because there is always just enough. This is scientifically a trend at this point.

But I digress as I know the usuals will do that regardless.

I see we have come to the "leave the Dems alone" part of the topic.

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gikos
11/10/25 8:34:30 AM
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Unknown5uspect posted...
And the millions of people going without food because they lost their SNAP benefits? Go fuck themselves?
and the millions who will lose their healthcare fuck them? and what makes you think SNAP will last after this like they believe the GOP won't scrap it when they can just blame it on the dems.

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Doe
11/10/25 8:36:02 AM
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asdf is trolling, he knows nobody has written "the entire party caved." Just move on

BiggCoolDaddy posted...
I didn't say don't be pissed off and worried. I said don't give into negativity and lose hope. If there is one damn thing we know, it is that Trump will fuck something up by next month and all this dooming will seem trivial. Rinse and repeat man.
This is a complete non-sequitur from what you're quoting. You claimed they know things we don't. They do not.

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asdf8562
11/10/25 8:36:38 AM
#415:


El_Dustino posted...
It does because there is always just enough. This is scientifically a trend at this point.

I see we have come to the "leave the Dems alone" part of the topic.
You're one of those usuals.

No matter what, you disingenuously try to rally around spinning the vast few as the whole.
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Unknown5uspect
11/10/25 8:37:04 AM
#416:


gikos posted...
and the millions who will lose their healthcare fuck them? and what makes you think SNAP will last after this like they believe the GOP won't scrap it when they can just blame it on the dems.
People are going without food right now because of snap. Healthcare cuts don't come into effect until next year. There's kind of a fucking priority thing happening right now.

"Oh but Republicans can just get rid of snap" you don't operate based on fuck shit that someone might do.

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Frolex
11/10/25 8:37:35 AM
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When you're a corpo dem who just watched the greatest of wave of political support your party has seen in years as the republicans hemorrhage public confidence and political capital every day while they shoulder the blame for their inability to govern and the one (1) thing you have to do is not sabotage your own party and the american public in the dumbest way possible by handing trump a massive win for literally no reason:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e1cd7308.jpg

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asdf8562
11/10/25 8:38:08 AM
#418:


Doe posted...
nobody has written "the entire party caved." Just move on
Dustin is. My post said dont blame the entire party for less than 10, and his literal response was to say "theres always enough" to vote with Republicans.
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Cartoon_Quoter
11/10/25 8:40:28 AM
#419:


El_Dustino posted...
It does because there is always just enough. This is scientifically a trend at this point.

There were probably 20 willing to cave, they strategized which eight wold be most insulated from consequences.

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CrimsonWaffle
11/10/25 8:43:28 AM
#420:


Jesus f***ing christ
https://x.com/atrupar/status/1987876647278727553?s=20

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DrizztLink
11/10/25 8:45:02 AM
#421:


Turns out the Anus King is so named for where he stores his head.

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BiggCoolDaddy
11/10/25 8:45:38 AM
#422:


Doe posted...
asdf is trolling, he knows nobody has written "the entire party caved." Just move on

This is a complete non-sequitur from what you're quoting. You claimed they know things we don't. They do not.

I know but I didn't notice your edit and didn't want to respond to the same post.

Yes I absolutely believe elected officials have more insider info than yourself. I'm kinda surprised you would even argue that.

So you know about the changes to the BBB and COVID era subsidies that Dems were seeking.
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Board_hunter567
11/10/25 8:45:59 AM
#423:


The most charitable spin is that this would have happened sooner but they were holding out until last week's elections.

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Dark_Moon
11/10/25 8:47:10 AM
#424:


CrimsonWaffle posted...
Jesus f***ing christ
https://x.com/atrupar/status/1987876647278727553?s=20
Seemed like it was working well.

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tripleh213
11/10/25 8:47:36 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/458c3d46.jpg

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El_Dustino
11/10/25 8:47:39 AM
#426:


Asdf you should not say I'm trolling because I don't entirely agree with you, that's a hyperbolic reaction. I've also been barley critical of the Dems lately because I've been happy that they were actually fighting.

The Dems dropped the fucking ball here. And pulling a "well you always hate them" just reinforces the idea that no one is allowed to criticize the party.

Why do you see this nightmare scenario the Dems created and feel the need to do damage control for them?

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Evening_Dragon
11/10/25 8:47:54 AM
#427:


CrimsonWaffle posted...
Jesus f***ing christ


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tremain07
11/10/25 8:51:37 AM
#429:


CrimsonWaffle posted...
Jesus f***ing christ
https://x.com/atrupar/status/1987876647278727553?s=20
Im done I just cant take this anymore I gotta focus more on my life now before my mind starts going back to that dark place again

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Thompson
11/10/25 8:51:56 AM
#430:


I am a bit out of the loop, but does this not need to pass the house as well, and is not the house on break because of the speaker of the house is deathly scared of the vote on releasing the Epstein files passing?

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asdf8562
11/10/25 8:53:00 AM
#431:


El_Dustino posted...
Asdf you should not say I'm trolling because I don't entirely agree with you, that's a hyperbolic reaction. I've also been barley critical of the Dems lately because I've been happy that they were actually fighting.

The Dems dropped the fucking ball here. And pulling a "well you always hate them" just reinforces the idea that no one is allowed to criticize the party.

Why do you see this nightmare scenario the Dems created and feel the need to do damage control for them?
You respond to a post that says you should blame the less than 10 Democrats that caved, not the entire party.

You per the usual blame the entire party and pretend this isnt a norm for you.

Sure lol.
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ssjevot
11/10/25 8:53:59 AM
#432:


Thompson posted...
I am a bit out of the loop, but does this not need to pass the house as well, and is not the house on break because of the speaker of the house is deathly scared of the vote on releasing the Epstein files passing?

The Republicans have a majority in the House. They don't need more than that.

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asdf8562
11/10/25 8:54:09 AM
#433:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

When it comes to Dustin, it does. Even now he is not making that distinction as just in the last post again he is framing it as "the party."

You and I agree the Dems who cave need to be primaried, and deserve all the criticism.

Dustin however per usual is trying to rally around blaming the entire party for what less than 10 Democrats did.
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El_Dustino
11/10/25 8:56:50 AM
#434:


Asdf if I was talking about men would you say "not all men?".

Also please stop calling me Dustin

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LightSnake
11/10/25 9:01:08 AM
#435:


I think we can safely say this is extremely disappointing from the Dems while acknowledging a difficult reality.

Like, let's let people be mad. This was a cave and we can only hope the fight in September goes better now that SNAP is funded.

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asdf8562
11/10/25 9:01:25 AM
#436:


El_Dustino posted...
Asdf if I was talking about men would say "not all men?".

Also please stop calling me Dustin
You literally responded to a post of mine that said to not blame the party for what less than 10 Democrats did. Blame the less than 10.

You response to my post was you insisting the party dropped the ball. You arent directing the criticism to the individuals who actually caved which was an extreme minority. You are intentionally generalizing by saying the party dropped the ball as thats the usual angle.
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El_Dustino
11/10/25 9:02:20 AM
#437:


The Dems did drop the ball.

Asdf why are you more mad at me than the Dems who betrayed the American people?

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LightSnake
11/10/25 9:03:05 AM
#438:


A few things arre true at once:

This was a ball drop.

People claiming midterms are doomed over it really need to take a breath

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asdf8562
11/10/25 9:03:55 AM
#439:


El_Dustino posted...
The Dems did drop the ball.

Asdf why are you more mad at me than the Dems who betrayed the American people?
Why are you being disingenuous by trying blame the party instead of the less than 10 who actually caved?

Why are you per usual trying to rally the party did this instead of the specific minority of individuals who did this.
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El_Dustino
11/10/25 9:04:14 AM
#440:


I'm not even thinking about the midterms at the moment. I'm just baffled and honestly feel like a moron for having faith in the Dems for once.

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DrizztLink
11/10/25 9:04:57 AM
#441:


El_Dustino posted...
Also please stop calling me Dustin
Do you have a preference?

Honest question, I'm pretty sure I've called you that myself, if you have something you'd prefer I can tag you with it.

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El_Dustino
11/10/25 9:05:12 AM
#442:


asdf8562 posted...
Why are you being disingenuous by trying blame the party instead of the less than 10 who actually caved?
Because this is a trend, I already said that. They should also be a unified front.

Now answer my question please.

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LightSnake
11/10/25 9:05:34 AM
#443:


El_Dustino posted...
I'm not even thinking about the midterms at the moment. I'm just baffled and honestly feel like a moron for having faith in the Dems for once.

It was bad, but I'm still not wavering on the position that with Dems in control of Congress, this doesn't happen at all.

And I still think we should damn well primary other Dems and oust Schumer from leadership over it. I just wish we could have primaries without unserious clowns as the insurgents.

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asdf8562
11/10/25 9:06:30 AM
#444:


El_Dustino posted...
Because this is a trend, I already said that. They should also be a unified front.

Now answer my question please.
The question is disingenuous as my anger is directed only at the less than 10 who actually caved. Not your disingenuous spin that it was the party.
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boomgetchopped3
11/10/25 9:07:00 AM
#445:


They bought off the exact number of dems that they needed for the vote lol

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El_Dustino
11/10/25 9:07:37 AM
#446:


DrizztLink posted...
Do you have a preference?

Honest question, I'm pretty sure I've called you that myself, if you have something you'd prefer I can tag you with it.
Thank you for asking, preferred name is Dusty, pronouns she/her. I probably should put it in my sig but this is the most I have been called it so it stuck out, normally I try to ignore it, though it's a little harder to ignore when it is someone like this who seems to be very invested in me.

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DrizztLink
11/10/25 9:09:48 AM
#447:


Done.

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Tmaster148
11/10/25 9:10:23 AM
#448:


LightSnake posted...
I'm still not wavering on the position that with Dems in control of Congress, this doesn't happen at all.

This is true, but people just refuse to keep dems in power despite everything generally being better under their control.

Meanwhile republicans will fight courts to take away money for people to buy food and that never affects their ability to get reelected.

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El_Dustino
11/10/25 9:10:53 AM
#449:


LightSnake posted...
It was bad, but I'm still not wavering on the position that with Dems in control of Congress, this doesn't happen at all.

And I still think we should damn well primary other Dems and oust Schumer from leadership over it. I just wish we could have primaries without unserious clowns as the insurgents.
It did happen with Manchin and Sinema during the brief super majority. Which is part of why it seems like there is always just enough, even when the Dems control Congress.

The current climate is unfortunately very easy for people like Fetterman or Sinema or Platner to abuse, and that's going to make our job harder than it already is

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El_Dustino
11/10/25 9:12:16 AM
#450:


asdf8562 posted...
The question is disingenuous as my anger is directed only at the less than 10 who actually caved. Not your disingenuous spin that it was the party.
I see you posting more about me than any of them.

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LightSnake
11/10/25 9:15:06 AM
#451:


El_Dustino posted...
It did happen with Manchin and Sinema during the brief super majority. Which is part of why it seems like there is always just enough, even when the Dems control Congress.

It didn't happen like this. We didn't have these shutdown issues and that was more "how good can we make this legislation"...we still passed a major stimulus, infrastructure and the IRA then.

Even when Manchin as vote 50, it was a picnic compared to Thune as Majority Leader.

The current climate is unfortunately very easy for people like Fetterman or Sinema or Platner to abuse, and that's going to make our job harder than it already is

I concur. The solution is to run up the wins where we can and primary others. But again, fewer unserious clowns. More Zohran Mamdanis, fewer Graham Platners

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asdf8562
11/10/25 9:17:14 AM
#452:


El_Dustino posted...
I see you posting more about me than any of them.
Because people like you disingenuous rally people to "both sides bad so why bother vote." Your literal disingenuous argument as we speak is to blame and rally around the entire party dropped the ball instead of rallying behind the actual less than 10 who need to be removed for dropping the ball.

People like you rally others to not vote or pushing then to go 3rd party.
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El_Dustino
11/10/25 9:18:36 AM
#453:


I might be remembering wrong, man I was back in college during the time of the brief Dem Congress, but I do recall those two fucking up votes for Biden's more progressive proposals.

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