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Humble_Novice 10/30/25 12:52:02 PM #1:	https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/08/arab-americans-michigan-dearborn-trump <cite>Humble_Novice posted [p:986886382] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/08/arab-americans-michigan-dearborn-trump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 10/30/25 12:53:44 PM #2:	It's astounding how I can muster absolutely no sympathy for these folks who voted Trump. No more pro bono legal services. No more defenses. No more help. No more advocacy. No more protests They made the bed. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:986886402] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>It's astounding how I can muster absolutely no sympathy for these folks who voted Trump.No more pro bono legal services. No more defenses. No more help. No more advocacy. No more protests They made the bed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_Gear_Raxis 10/30/25 12:54:52 PM #3:	Arab and Hispanic Americans made some baffling decisions in 2024. --- Time is a funny thing, you know? I guess in the big picture of my life, you were only a blip. But oftentimes, those "blips" make the biggest impacts. <cite>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted [p:986886411] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>Arab and Hispanic Americans made some baffling decisions in 2024.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cousinvini 10/30/25 12:55:15 PM #4:	They would still vote for him --- Come out and live with a community in a beautiful place out in the country <cite>cousinvini posted [p:986886415] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>They would still vote for him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KnightofShikari 10/30/25 12:55:27 PM #5:	Metal_Gear_Raxis posted... Americans made some baffling decisions in 2024. ftfy --- The Earth is round. Two plus two equals four. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris won the 2020 election for President and Vice President of the United States <cite>KnightofShikari posted [p:986886419] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted... </cite><quote>Americans made some baffling decisions in 2024.</quote>ftfy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rob_the_Ninja 10/30/25 12:56:00 PM #6:	Putting your hand on the hot stove despite all of the signs, everyone in the room, and even the stove itself telling you that it's going to burn you. <cite>Rob_the_Ninja posted [p:986886424] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>Putting your hand on the hot stove despite all of the signs, everyone in the room, and even the stove itself telling you that it's going to burn you. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Humble_Novice 10/30/25 12:56:03 PM #7:	LightSnake posted... It's astounding how I can muster absolutely no sympathy for these folks who voted Trump. No more pro bono legal services. No more defenses. No more help. No more advocacy. No more protests They made the bed. If you ask me, I sincerely believe it's better to provide aid towards those who are willing to help back instead of taking things for granted. Both Trump supporters and protest voters have made it very clear that they will spurn and abuse others for their own selfish ends. <cite>Humble_Novice posted [p:986886428] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>LightSnake posted... </cite><quote>It's astounding how I can muster absolutely no sympathy for these folks who voted Trump.No more pro bono legal services. No more defenses. No more help. No more advocacy. No more protests They made the bed.</quote>If you ask me, I sincerely believe it's better to provide aid towards those who are willing to help back instead of taking things for granted. Both Trump supporters and protest voters have made it very clear that they will spurn and abuse others for their own selfish ends.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 10/30/25 12:56:07 PM #8:	For conservative Muslims they bought into the culture war as they hate all the same things conservative Christians hate. Everyone knew this would happen. --- "So this is how liberty dies, with Thunderous applause." Padme Amidala <cite>creativerealms posted [p:986886430] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>For conservative Muslims they bought into the culture war as they hate all the same things conservative Christians hate. Everyone knew this would happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pitbuller_26 10/30/25 12:58:59 PM #9:	And I should care why? He was heavy anti-Muslim in his first term and even banned Muslim immigrants. I have more to say, but I'll leave it at that. <cite>Pitbuller_26 posted [p:986886471] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>And I should care why?He was heavy anti-Muslim in his first term and even banned Muslim immigrants. I have more to say, but I'll leave it at that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Humble_Novice 10/30/25 1:00:11 PM #10:	Pitbuller_26 posted... And I should care why? He was heavy anti-Muslim in his first term and even banned Muslim immigrants. I have more to say, but I'll leave it at that. What's worse is that some of the racial minorities who voted for Trump are now somehow blaming the Black community for not standing by them in their time of need. Do these folks not have any sense of accountability at all for their reckless actions? <cite>Humble_Novice posted [p:986886487] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>Pitbuller_26 posted... </cite><quote>And I should care why?He was heavy anti-Muslim in his first term and even banned Muslim immigrants. I have more to say, but I'll leave it at that.</quote>What's worse is that some of the racial minorities who voted for Trump are now somehow blaming the Black community for not standing by them in their time of need. Do these folks not have any sense of accountability at all for their reckless actions?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 10/30/25 1:00:29 PM #11:	creativerealms posted... For conservative Muslims they bought into the culture war as they hate all the same things conservative Christians hate. Everyone knew this would happen. This. Just look at nearby Hamtramck that voted to ban pride flags permanently citywide the second there was an all muslim city council and mayor. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:986886495] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>creativerealms posted... </cite><quote>For conservative Muslims they bought into the culture war as they hate all the same things conservative Christians hate. Everyone knew this would happen.</quote>This. Just look at nearby Hamtramck that voted to ban pride flags permanently citywide the second there was an all muslim city council and mayor. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scardude 10/30/25 1:01:27 PM #12:	cousinvini posted... They would still vote for him Because the other side had a woman. Something about their cultures tell me they have an issue with this. But that's old now --- Above all things, never be afraid. The enemy who forces you to retreat is himself afraid of you at that very moment. <cite>Scardude posted [p:986886505] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>cousinvini posted... </cite><quote>They would still vote for him</quote>Because the other side had a woman. Something about their cultures tell me they have an issue with this. But that's old now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 10/30/25 1:03:35 PM #13:	Humble_Novice posted... What's worse is that some of the racial minorities who voted for Trump are now somehow blaming the Black community for not standing by them in their time of need. Do these folks not have any sense of accountability at all for their reckless actions? reminds me of how many black women (historically the strongest supporters of minorities of all kinds) made it clear they are done --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:986886527] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>Humble_Novice posted... </cite><quote>What's worse is that some of the racial minorities who voted for Trump are now somehow blaming the Black community for not standing by them in their time of need. Do these folks not have any sense of accountability at all for their reckless actions?</quote>reminds me of how many black women (historically the strongest supporters of minorities of all kinds) made it clear they are done</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 10/30/25 1:03:36 PM #14:	s0nicfan posted... This. Just look at nearby Hamtramck that voted to ban pride flags permanently citywide the second there was an all muslim city council and mayor. Great job with that one, liberals. Bang up win for diversity --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:986886528] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>This. Just look at nearby Hamtramck that voted to ban pride flags permanently citywide the second there was an all muslim city council and mayor.</quote>Great job with that one, liberals. Bang up win for diversity</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 10/30/25 1:09:33 PM #15:	A lot of Muslims are very conservative socially. People in groups like this who voted for Trump are only upset because theyre the ones being attacked. They thought they were safe or for some reason would be immune to the blatantly obvious rhetoric they were voting for. --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:986886592] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>A lot of Muslims are very conservative socially. People in groups like this who voted for Trump are only upset because theyre the ones being attacked. They thought they were safe or for some reason would be immune to the blatantly obvious rhetoric they were voting for. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToadallyAwesome 10/30/25 1:15:19 PM #16:	ssb_yunglink2 posted... A lot of Muslims are very conservative socially. People in groups like this who voted for Trump are only upset because theyre the ones being attacked. They thought they were safe or for some reason would be immune to the blatantly obvious rhetoric they were voting for. Its just selfish and self centered thinking coupled with fear and hate. How they didnt understand they would not be welcome is flabbergasting to me if you know even a modicum of who and what the Cheeto has done in the past. I love history but Its abundantly clear that most of America doesnt. So we are doomed to repeat it. --- http://imgur.com/QKdxwuI <cite>ToadallyAwesome posted [p:986886650] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>ssb_yunglink2 posted... </cite><quote>A lot of Muslims are very conservative socially. People in groups like this who voted for Trump are only upset because theyre the ones being attacked. They thought they were safe or for some reason would be immune to the blatantly obvious rhetoric they were voting for.</quote>Its just selfish and self centered thinking coupled with fear and hate. How they didnt understand they would not be welcome is flabbergasting to me if you know even a modicum of who and what the Cheeto has done in the past.I love history but Its abundantly clear that most of America doesnt. So we are doomed to repeat it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 10/30/25 1:15:23 PM #17:	Why couldn't they have realized this before the election? <cite>Zikten posted [p:986886654] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>Why couldn't they have realized this before the election?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 10/30/25 1:17:31 PM #18:	It took them this long to start questioning their support if him? JFC --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:986886673] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>It took them this long to start questioning their support if him? JFC</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sariana21 10/30/25 1:20:50 PM #19:	AceMos posted... reminds me of how many black women (historically the strongest supporters of minorities of all kinds) made it clear they are done My thoughts exactly. And I dont blame black women one bit. --- ___ Sari, Mom to DS (07/04) and DD (01/08); Pronouns: she/her/hers <cite>Sariana21 posted [p:986886700] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>AceMos posted... </cite><quote>reminds me of how many black women (historically the strongest supporters of minorities of all kinds) made it clear they are done</quote>My thoughts exactly. And I dont blame black women one bit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wanderingshade 10/30/25 1:20:52 PM #20:	Imagine voting for the guy who banned flights from Arab countries JUST BECAUSE he talked to Khabib at the UFC event. But then again, I've become increasingly aware at the low amount of literacy people have politically and how absolutely mindless they are when it comes to Id Pol and how people "perceive" candidates through propaganda. These people are fucking hopeless. --- "You're made of spare parts, aren't ya, bud?" <cite>wanderingshade posted [p:986886701] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>Imagine voting for the guy who banned flights from Arab countries JUST BECAUSE he talked to Khabib at the UFC event. But then again, I've become increasingly aware at the low amount of literacy people have politically and how absolutely mindless they are when it comes to Id Pol and how people "perceive" candidates through propaganda. These people are fucking hopeless. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 10/30/25 1:21:17 PM #21:	cousinvini posted... They would still vote for him --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:986886708] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>cousinvini posted... </cite><quote>They would still vote for him</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shamino 10/30/25 1:22:40 PM #22:	Zikten posted... Why couldn't they have realized this before the election? Because many, many people think they are the "good ones" and will be left alone, or that bad things won't happen to them. How very wrong they are. --- Switch/PC 16 GB 6700k RTX 3080 Cards/Suns/Former Celtics/Diamondbacks/ASU Fan <cite>Shamino posted [p:986886717] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>Why couldn't they have realized this before the election?</quote>Because many, many people think they are the "good ones" and will be left alone, or that bad things won't happen to them. How very wrong they are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 10/30/25 1:24:06 PM #23:	Religion and conservative culture (mostly caused by religion) continues to hinder progress. People like this and others put hatred of LGBT+ folks, women, and other minority groups above their own survival. How can they even be reached or reasoned with? --- Fix your hearts or die. When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:986886733] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>Religion and conservative culture (mostly caused by religion) continues to hinder progress. People like this and others put hatred of LGBT+ folks, women, and other minority groups above their own survival. How can they even be reached or reasoned with?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 10/30/25 1:26:26 PM #24:	Southernfatman posted... Religion and conservative culture (mostly caused by religion) continues to hinder progress. People like this and others put hatred of LGBT+ folks, women, and other minority groups above their own survival. How can they even be reached or reasoned with? we overcorrected. We should treat them no different than we do Christian fundies --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:986886757] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>Southernfatman posted... </cite><quote>Religion and conservative culture (mostly caused by religion) continues to hinder progress. People like this and others put hatred of LGBT+ folks, women, and other minority groups above their own survival. How can they even be reached or reasoned with?</quote>we overcorrected. We should treat them no different than we do Christian fundies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Charged151 10/30/25 1:33:56 PM #25:	I get that Biden didn't do enough to help Palestine, but voting for Trump thinking he would do better is brainless, indefensible behavior. Then again, didn't Trump say that he likes stupid people or something? LightSnake posted... we overcorrected. We should treat them no different than we do Christian fundies Yeah...Dems embracing Islam due to Reps hating it was a bad move. The religious extremists would get along well together (views wise) if they didn't have such a massive hatred of "the other" going on. --- I'm...the...master...of...ellipses... Currently Playing: Octopath Traveler 2 <cite>Charged151 posted [p:986886820] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>I get that Biden didn't do enough to help Palestine, but voting for Trump thinking he would do better is brainless, indefensible behavior. Then again, didn't Trump say that he likes stupid people or something?LightSnake posted... </cite><quote>we overcorrected. We should treat them no different than we do Christian fundies</quote>Yeah...Dems embracing Islam due to Reps hating it was a bad move. The religious extremists would get along well together (views wise) if they didn't have such a massive hatred of "the other" going on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Heineken14 10/30/25 1:34:50 PM #26:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5fbd5290.jpg --- Rage is a hell of an anesthetic. <cite>Heineken14 posted [p:986886829] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5fbd5290.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 10/30/25 1:35:41 PM #27:	Charged151 posted... I get that Biden didn't do enough to help Palestine, but voting for Trump thinking he would do better is brainless, indefensible behavior. Then again, didn't Trump say that he likes stupid people or something? Yeah...Dems embracing Islam due to Reps hating it was a bad move. The religious extremists would get along well together (views wise) if they didn't have such a massive hatred of "the other" going on. omnicause excuses all --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:986886836] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>Charged151 posted... </cite><quote>I get that Biden didn't do enough to help Palestine, but voting for Trump thinking he would do better is brainless, indefensible behavior. Then again, didn't Trump say that he likes stupid people or something?Yeah...Dems embracing Islam due to Reps hating it was a bad move. The religious extremists would get along well together (views wise) if they didn't have such a massive hatred of "the other" going on.</quote>omnicause excuses all </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 10/30/25 1:36:40 PM #28:	Humble_Novice posted... What's worse is that some of the racial minorities who voted for Trump are now somehow blaming the Black community for not standing by them in their time of need. Do these folks not have any sense of accountability at all for their reckless actions? Why should we take the blame when Black people as a whole were perhaps the only group that understood the assignment last fall? --- "Be good to yourself, because everyone else in the world is probably out to get you." - Dr. Harleen Quinzel <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:986886849] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>Humble_Novice posted... </cite><quote>What's worse is that some of the racial minorities who voted for Trump are now somehow blaming the Black community for not standing by them in their time of need. Do these folks not have any sense of accountability at all for their reckless actions?</quote>Why should we take the blame when Black people as a whole were perhaps the only group that understood the assignment last fall?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Demigod_Elessar 10/30/25 1:37:52 PM #29:	Call me a cynic, but it's hard to have any sympathy for these people regretting their decisions. I didn't vote for the guy but I'm feeling the ramifications of his actions. Might as well strap in and own it, we still have another 3 years and 3 months of this. At minimum. --- Iron Maiden is my religion <cite>Demigod_Elessar posted [p:986886859] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>Call me a cynic, but it's hard to have any sympathy for these people regretting their decisions. I didn't vote for the guy but I'm feeling the ramifications of his actions. Might as well strap in and own it, we still have another 3 years and 3 months of this. At minimum. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JadeBaby 10/30/25 1:39:19 PM #30:	Did some of these people forget the aftermath 9/11? --- Would've, could've, should've. Would of, should of, and could of ARE INCORRECT!!!! <cite>JadeBaby posted [p:986886874] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>Did some of these people forget the aftermath 9/11?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 10/30/25 1:41:30 PM #31:	JadeBaby posted... Did some of these people forget the aftermath 9/11? I mean, Americans in general forgot Trump's fumbling of the pandemic and the 1/6 insurrection that he incited, and that was only four years prior. --- "Be good to yourself, because everyone else in the world is probably out to get you." - Dr. Harleen Quinzel <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:986886893] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>JadeBaby posted... </cite><quote>Did some of these people forget the aftermath 9/11?</quote>I mean, Americans in general forgot Trump's fumbling of the pandemic and the 1/6 insurrection that he incited, and that was only four years prior.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 10/30/25 1:43:08 PM #32:	JadeBaby posted... Did some of these people forget the aftermath 9/11? They memory holed Trump's entire first term and how he began his campaign. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:986886907] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>JadeBaby posted... </cite><quote>Did some of these people forget the aftermath 9/11?</quote>They memory holed Trump's entire first term and how he began his campaign. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 10/30/25 1:43:17 PM #33:	LightSnake posted... we overcorrected. We should treat them no different than we do Christian fundies Right. To be honest, I wonder if the over correcting of several different things is a significant reason why things are how they are now. JadeBaby posted... Did some of these people forget the aftermath 9/11? The 00s era Islamophobia is even coming back with some of the crap Zohran Mamdani gets. --- Fix your hearts or die. When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:986886910] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>LightSnake posted... </cite><quote>we overcorrected. We should treat them no different than we do Christian fundies</quote>Right. To be honest, I wonder if the over correcting of several different things is a significant reason why things are how they are now.JadeBaby posted... </cite><quote>Did some of these people forget the aftermath 9/11?</quote>The 00s era Islamophobia is even coming back with some of the crap Zohran Mamdani gets.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightSnake 10/30/25 1:44:03 PM #34:	Southernfatman posted... Right. To be honest, I wonder if the over correcting of several different things is a significant reason why things are how they are now. Maybe the tent shouldnt be big enough for religious fundamentalists who want a theocracy tbh --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen <cite>LightSnake posted [p:986886919] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>Southernfatman posted... </cite><quote>Right. To be honest, I wonder if the over correcting of several different things is a significant reason why things are how they are now.</quote>Maybe the tent shouldnt be big enough for religious fundamentalists who want a theocracy tbh </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 10/30/25 1:44:28 PM #35:	Solar_Crimson posted... I mean, Americans in general forgot Trump's fumbling of the pandemic and the 1/6 insurrection that he incited, and that was only four years prior. people forgot his debate with kamala like a week later --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:986886925] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite><quote>I mean, Americans in general forgot Trump's fumbling of the pandemic and the 1/6 insurrection that he incited, and that was only four years prior.</quote>people forgot his debate with kamala like a week later </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Villain_S_Fiend 10/30/25 2:50:50 PM #36:	Contrarian purist voters are just the worst. --- The food here is terrible. My steak was so tough it attacked my coffee and the coffee was too weak to defend itself. <cite>Villain_S_Fiend posted [p:986887501] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>Contrarian purist voters are just the worst.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jefffan 10/30/25 3:07:27 PM #37:	Solar_Crimson posted... Why should we take the blame when Black people as a whole were perhaps the only group that understood the assignment last fall? Us and Asians were left high and dry. --- The Bill of Rights should be for everyone... except it isnt <cite>jefffan posted [p:986887657] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite><quote>Why should we take the blame when Black people as a whole were perhaps the only group that understood the assignment last fall?</quote>Us and Asians were left high and dry. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sandalorn 10/30/25 3:09:55 PM #38:	I know it is Humble's thing to focus solely on this Demographic as the scapegoats and blame them for Trump winning but I have grown pretty tired of it. All Americans that voted for Trump or refused to vote for Harris share blame in what is happening in our country. This specific Demographic doesn't deserve to be singled out like it is on this board. They weren't the only ones that bought the snake-oil again and much larger demographics fell victim to their greater devils. Just give it a damn rest now. <cite>Sandalorn posted [p:986887678] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>I know it is Humble's thing to focus solely on this Demographic as the scapegoats and blame them for Trump winning but I have grown pretty tired of it. All Americans that voted for Trump or refused to vote for Harris share blame in what is happening in our country. This specific Demographic doesn't deserve to be singled out like it is on this board. They weren't the only ones that bought the snake-oil again and much larger demographics fell victim to their greater devils. Just give it a damn rest now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hitokoriX 10/30/25 3:17:38 PM #39:	Aight here we go: First off, there is a difference between Arab Americans and Muslims -- but I found a rather interesting source. Per a poll featured in Zeteo (a fairly reputable news source): 50 percent of Muslims voted for Harris. 31 percent of Muslims voted for Trump 12 percent of Muslims voted for a third party/independent. I am assuming the remaining 7 percent didn't vote. Of the 31 percent who voted for Trump, 82 percent of them voted for him back in 2020. So what does this tell us? Well, while some Muslims did vote for Trump, most didn't. This is on top of the fact that Biden was complicit in the genocide of the Palestinian people and lied over and over again. The messaging from him and democrats was essentially -- yeah we did this. And we know how much it hurts you -- but you'll still vote for us anyway. Now me personally, I'm one of the worst Muslims on the planet, but the Palestinian genocide made me consider, for the first time in my life, not voting, or not voting for a Democrat president. Eventually I was swayed by Mehdi Hasan, who had several good arguments about why Trump would be overall worse. When I spoke to fellow Muslims (largely arab), I did my best to explain that we had to pick the overall best candidate. Even if both were genocidal, one would still be better than the other. What gets under my skin a bit is when people somehow frame us as being the straw that broke the camels back and got Trump elected. That simply isn't true. Per the Pew Research center, Trump saw increases amongst the Black, Hispanic, and Asian communities. To close it off, I don't deny that there are folks in the Muslim.community that are conservative as hell. But I'm just sick and tired of people making us out to be the reason we are all here right now. Sources: https://zeteo.com/p/did-muslim-voters-swing-2024-trump-poll https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/behind-trumps-2024-victory-a-more-racially-and-ethnically-diverse-voter-coalition/ --- Would you follow a blind man? I would if I was in the dark <cite>hitokoriX posted [p:986887745] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>Aight here we go:First off, there is a difference between Arab Americans and Muslims -- but I found a rather interesting source. Per a poll featured in Zeteo (a fairly reputable news source):50 percent of Muslims voted for Harris.31 percent of Muslims voted for Trump12 percent of Muslims voted for a third party/independent. I am assuming the remaining 7 percent didn't vote.Of the 31 percent who voted for Trump, 82 percent of them voted for him back in 2020.So what does this tell us? Well, while some Muslims did vote for Trump, most didn't. This is on top of the fact that Biden was complicit in the genocide of the Palestinian people and lied over and over again. The messaging from him and democrats was essentially -- yeah we did this. And we know how much it hurts you -- but you'll still vote for us anyway. Now me personally, I'm one of the worst Muslims on the planet, but the Palestinian genocide made me consider, for the first time in my life, not voting, or not voting for a Democrat president. Eventually I was swayed by Mehdi Hasan, who had several good arguments about why Trump would be overall worse. When I spoke to fellow Muslims (largely arab), I did my best to explain that we had to pick the overall best candidate. Even if both were genocidal, one would still be better than the other. What gets under my skin a bit is when people somehow frame us as being the straw that broke the camels back and got Trump elected. That simply isn't true. Per the Pew Research center, Trump saw increases amongst the Black, Hispanic, and Asian communities. To close it off, I don't deny that there are folks in the Muslim.community that are conservative as hell. But I'm just sick and tired of people making us out to be the reason we are all here right now. Sources:https://zeteo.com/p/did-muslim-voters-swing-2024-trump-pollhttps://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/behind-trumps-2024-victory-a-more-racially-and-ethnically-diverse-voter-coalition/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 10/30/25 3:33:45 PM #40:	I really dislike the fact that so many people don't remember recent history THAT THEY THEMSELVES LIVED THROUGH. After 9/11, Islamophobia fucking exploded and conservatives largely never let that shit go. They'll literally get dementia and forget their daughter's names, where they live, where they were 5 minutes ago, etc. but they still remember that they're fucking racist and hate minorities. Trump literally openly and proudly campaigned on his Muslim ban in the lead up to the 2016 election, and Trump supporters were loudly applauding it. And now here we are in 2025 and they've forgotten all that somehow? --- https://i.imgtc.com/d9Fc4Qq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/BKHTxYq.gif https://i.imgtc.com/vYYIuDx.jpg <cite>CableZL posted [p:986887900] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>I really dislike the fact that so many people don't remember recent history THAT THEY THEMSELVES LIVED THROUGH.After 9/11, Islamophobia fucking exploded and conservatives largely never let that shit go. They'll literally get dementia and forget their daughter's names, where they live, where they were 5 minutes ago, etc. but they still remember that they're fucking racist and hate minorities.Trump literally openly and proudly campaigned on his Muslim ban in the lead up to the 2016 election, and Trump supporters were loudly applauding it.And now here we are in 2025 and they've forgotten all that somehow? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 10/30/25 3:39:43 PM #41:	CableZL posted... I really dislike the fact that so many people don't remember recent history THAT THEY THEMSELVES LIVED THROUGH. After 9/11, Islamophobia fucking exploded and conservatives largely never let that shit go. They'll literally get dementia and forget their daughter's names, where they live, where they were 5 minutes ago, etc. but they still remember that they're fucking racist and hate minorities. Trump literally openly and proudly campaigned on his Muslim ban in the lead up to the 2016 election, and Trump supporters were loudly applauding it. And now here we are in 2025 and they've forgotten all that somehow? Yep, if nothing else they hold onto their hatred and racism. It's why the white nationalists have taken hold so strongly on the right. It sucks that we've reached this point at all --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:986887951] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>CableZL posted... </cite><quote>I really dislike the fact that so many people don't remember recent history THAT THEY THEMSELVES LIVED THROUGH.After 9/11, Islamophobia fucking exploded and conservatives largely never let that shit go. They'll literally get dementia and forget their daughter's names, where they live, where they were 5 minutes ago, etc. but they still remember that they're fucking racist and hate minorities.Trump literally openly and proudly campaigned on his Muslim ban in the lead up to the 2016 election, and Trump supporters were loudly applauding it.And now here we are in 2025 and they've forgotten all that somehow?</quote>Yep, if nothing else they hold onto their hatred and racism. It's why the white nationalists have taken hold so strongly on the right. It sucks that we've reached this point at all</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shamino 10/30/25 4:08:30 PM #42:	Sandalorn posted... I know it is Humble's thing to focus solely on this Demographic as the scapegoats and blame them for Trump winning but I have grown pretty tired of it. All Americans that voted for Trump or refused to vote for Harris share blame in what is happening in our country. This specific Demographic doesn't deserve to be singled out like it is on this board. They weren't the only ones that bought the snake-oil again and much larger demographics fell victim to their greater devils. Just give it a damn rest now. The point isn't that the Arab American demographic is entirely to blame, the point is that of almost any demographic, this one shouldn't have believed or voted for Trump, like at all. That's the problem, they should have known better. --- Switch/PC 16 GB 6700k RTX 3080 Cards/Suns/Former Celtics/Diamondbacks/ASU Fan <cite>Shamino posted [p:986888174] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>Sandalorn posted... </cite><quote>I know it is Humble's thing to focus solely on this Demographic as the scapegoats and blame them for Trump winning but I have grown pretty tired of it. All Americans that voted for Trump or refused to vote for Harris share blame in what is happening in our country. This specific Demographic doesn't deserve to be singled out like it is on this board. They weren't the only ones that bought the snake-oil again and much larger demographics fell victim to their greater devils. Just give it a damn rest now.</quote>The point isn't that the Arab American demographic is entirely to blame, the point is that of almost any demographic, this one shouldn't have believed or voted for Trump, like at all.That's the problem, they should have known better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jolly_Bear 10/30/25 6:07:24 PM #43:	hitokoriX posted... Aight here we go: First off, there is a difference between Arab Americans and Muslims -- but I found a rather interesting source. Per a poll featured in Zeteo (a fairly reputable news source): * 50 percent of Muslims voted for Harris. * 31 percent of Muslims voted for Trump * 12 percent of Muslims voted for a third party/independent. I am assuming the remaining 7 percent didn't vote. * Of the 31 percent who voted for Trump, 82 percent of them voted for him back in 2020. So what does this tell us? Well, while some Muslims did vote for Trump, most didn't. This is on top of the fact that Biden was complicit in the genocide of the Palestinian people and lied over and over again. The messaging from him and democrats was essentially -- yeah we did this. And we know how much it hurts you -- but you'll still vote for us anyway. Now me personally, I'm one of the worst Muslims on the planet, but the Palestinian genocide made me consider, for the first time in my life, not voting, or not voting for a Democrat president. Eventually I was swayed by Mehdi Hasan, who had several good arguments about why Trump would be overall worse. When I spoke to fellow Muslims (largely arab), I did my best to explain that we had to pick the overall best candidate. Even if both were genocidal, one would still be better than the other. What gets under my skin a bit is when people somehow frame us as being the straw that broke the camels back and got Trump elected. That simply isn't true. Per the Pew Research center, Trump saw increases amongst the Black, Hispanic, and Asian communities. To close it off, I don't deny that there are folks in the Muslim.community that are conservative as hell. But I'm just sick and tired of people making us out to be the reason we are all here right now. Sources: https://zeteo.com/p/did-muslim-voters-swing-2024-trump-poll https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/behind-trumps-2024-victory-a-more-racially-and-ethnically-diverse-voter-coalition/ Great post, I appreciate the inclusion of legitimate metrics and data to support the claims made. Sadly, this is another classic Arab Americans in Dearborn Michigan topic that is posted on a near weekly cadence here, and the target response is meant to be either explicit disavowal of Arab Americans as a dependable voting bloc or introducing baseless claims that protest voters had as significant an impact on the presidential election as Trump voters. For what its worth though, these topics would be much more worthwhile and not reek of low level influence operations if we had posts like yours. --- WARNING: You are reading a post by a user with a low active post count. Currently Playing: Pipistrello and the Cursed Yoyo <cite>Jolly_Bear posted [p:986889340] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>hitokoriX posted... </cite><quote>Aight here we go:First off, there is a difference between Arab Americans and Muslims -- but I found a rather interesting source. Per a poll featured in Zeteo (a fairly reputable news source):* 50 percent of Muslims voted for Harris.* 31 percent of Muslims voted for Trump* 12 percent of Muslims voted for a third party/independent. I am assuming the remaining 7 percent didn't vote.* Of the 31 percent who voted for Trump, 82 percent of them voted for him back in 2020.So what does this tell us? Well, while some Muslims did vote for Trump, most didn't. This is on top of the fact that Biden was complicit in the genocide of the Palestinian people and lied over and over again. The messaging from him and democrats was essentially -- yeah we did this. And we know how much it hurts you -- but you'll still vote for us anyway. Now me personally, I'm one of the worst Muslims on the planet, but the Palestinian genocide made me consider, for the first time in my life, not voting, or not voting for a Democrat president. Eventually I was swayed by Mehdi Hasan, who had several good arguments about why Trump would be overall worse. When I spoke to fellow Muslims (largely arab), I did my best to explain that we had to pick the overall best candidate. Even if both were genocidal, one would still be better than the other. What gets under my skin a bit is when people somehow frame us as being the straw that broke the camels back and got Trump elected. That simply isn't true. Per the Pew Research center, Trump saw increases amongst the Black, Hispanic, and Asian communities. To close it off, I don't deny that there are folks in the Muslim.community that are conservative as hell. But I'm just sick and tired of people making us out to be the reason we are all here right now. Sources:https://zeteo.com/p/did-muslim-voters-swing-2024-trump-pollhttps://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/behind-trumps-2024-victory-a-more-racially-and-ethnically-diverse-voter-coalition/</quote>Great post, I appreciate the inclusion of legitimate metrics and data to support the claims made. Sadly, this is another classic Arab Americans in Dearborn Michigan topic that is posted on a near weekly cadence here, and the target response is meant to be either explicit disavowal of Arab Americans as a dependable voting bloc or introducing baseless claims that protest voters had as significant an impact on the presidential election as Trump voters. For what its worth though, these topics would be much more worthwhile and not reek of low level influence operations if we had posts like yours. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mybbqrules 10/30/25 6:20:34 PM #44:	Heineken14 posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5fbd5290.jpg https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f572cbda.jpg --- Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. You know it, I know it, and he knows it. <cite>mybbqrules posted [p:986889439] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>Heineken14 posted... </cite><quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/5fbd5290.jpg</quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f572cbda.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kage_53 10/30/25 6:26:08 PM #45:	Arab Americans dont like either party <cite>kage_53 posted [p:986889475] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>Arab Americans dont like either party </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_Gear_Raxis 10/30/25 6:31:21 PM #46:	Humble_Novice posted... What's worse is that some of the racial minorities who voted for Trump are now somehow blaming the Black community for not standing by them in their time of need. Do these folks not have any sense of accountability at all for their reckless actions? Holy shit, fuck everyone who says that. Black Americans tried their goddamn hardest to save the county from fascism, and it fucking pisses me off how much they have to consistently carry the party for everyone else who should goddamn know better. --- Time is a funny thing, you know? I guess in the big picture of my life, you were only a blip. But oftentimes, those "blips" make the biggest impacts. <cite>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted [p:986889521] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>Humble_Novice posted... </cite><quote>What's worse is that some of the racial minorities who voted for Trump are now somehow blaming the Black community for not standing by them in their time of need. Do these folks not have any sense of accountability at all for their reckless actions?</quote>Holy shit, fuck everyone who says that. Black Americans tried their goddamn hardest to save the county from fascism, and it fucking pisses me off how much they have to consistently carry the party for everyone else who should goddamn know better. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSuperSilver 10/30/25 6:52:03 PM #47:	cousinvini posted... They would still vote for him That's what pisses me the hell off. All of these voting blocs and their fake outrage over Trump doing what he said he would do. When Trump runs again in 2028 these stupid mother***ers will vote for him again. --- When it is obvious that the goals cannot be reached, don't adjust the goals, adjust the action steps.* - Confucius <cite>TheSuperSilver posted [p:986889638] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>cousinvini posted... </cite><quote>They would still vote for him</quote>That's what pisses me the hell off.All of these voting blocs and their fake outrage over Trump doing what he said he would do. When Trump runs again in 2028 these stupid mother****ers will vote for him again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sfcalimari 10/30/25 6:56:18 PM #48:	hitokoriX posted... This is on top of the fact that Biden was complicit in the genocide of the Palestinian people and lied over and over again Even white natural born citizens are worried about getting assaulted and detained by ICE now because you guys helped poison the well. Great job getting anyone to respond to your performative rage especially when you guys said nothing about Sudan, Syria or Yemen because you knew you couldnt exploit them to weaken Democrats. --- I will now sell five copies of the Three EP's by the Beta Band. <cite>sfcalimari posted [p:986889674] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>hitokoriX posted... </cite><quote>This is on top of the fact that Biden was complicit in the genocide of the Palestinian people and lied over and over again</quote>Even white natural born citizens are worried about getting assaulted and detained by ICE now because you guys helped poison the well. Great job getting anyone to respond to your performative rage especially when you guys said nothing about Sudan, Syria or Yemen because you knew you couldnt exploit them to weaken Democrats.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CARRRNE_ASADA 10/30/25 7:16:53 PM #49:	Im not going to feel bad when it was so blatantly obvious on their face. --- SEXY SEXY! <cite>CARRRNE_ASADA posted [p:986889839] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>Im not going to feel bad when it was so blatantly obvious on their face. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EbonTitanium 10/30/25 7:20:03 PM #50:	Metal_Gear_Raxis posted... Holy shit, fuck everyone who says that. Black Americans tried their goddamn hardest to save the county from fascism, and it fucking pisses me off how much they have to consistently carry the party for everyone else who should goddamn know better. I saw this being talking about on YouTube a couple of months ago. Black political YouTubers were mocking the fools who voted for Trump, even now theyre still tearing into Black MAGA, Latinos, and Arab communities. The only groups that arent really being mocked are Asian, and Native Americans. --- If you're gonna hate on a game, make sure you played a good chuck of it first. <cite>EbonTitanium posted [p:986889867] in Arab Ameri... [t:81062937]...</cite> <quote>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted... </cite><quote>Holy shit, fuck everyone who says that. Black Americans tried their goddamn hardest to save the county from fascism, and it fucking pisses me off how much they have to consistently carry the party for everyone else who should goddamn know better.</quote>I saw this being talking about on YouTube a couple of months ago. Black political YouTubers were mocking the fools who voted for Trump, even now theyre still tearing into Black MAGA, Latinos, and Arab communities. The only groups that arent really being mocked are Asian, and Native Americans.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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