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The_Popo 10/03/25 6:48:09 AM #1:	While its BS, people need to learn local laws and punishments before doing stuff like this. tl:dr - It is occurring in Indonesia. He has been held for 5 months and has received little public attention compared to when Brittney Griner when she was held in Russia. He uses gummies as a form of medical treatment to ease pain related to Crohns disease. Arrested over $400 worth of gummies. Being charged with having nearly a kilo of cannabis, although most of the weight is from the gummies themselves and not cannabis. Likely faces life imprisonment or the death penalty (possibly by firing squad, based on past executions). https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/oct/03/jarred-shaw-drugs-arrest-indonesia-basketball *I use cannabis as medicine: the US basketball player facing execution in Indonesia over $400 of gummies* Unlike his fellow basketball player, Brittney Griner, Jarred Shaw has received scant attention after being arrested for a drugs offence overseas When Jarred Shaw, an American basketball player in Indonesia, stepped down to the lobby in his apartment complex earlier this year to collect a package containing illegally imported cannabis gummies, he thought that the medicine to ease his Crohns disease had arrived. It had but so too had 10 undercover police officers. A video on social media shows Shaw, wearing a black T-shirt and shorts, shouting for help as the swarm of officers move to apprehend him. The 35-year-old from Dallas, Texas, is facing the possibility of the death penalty or a long spell behind bars. He was a key member of Prawira Bandung, who won the Indonesian Basketball League (IBL) in 2023, and he has scored more than 1,000 points over three seasons in the country. But now he is languishing in pre-trial detention and is banned for life from the IBL for life. I use cannabis as a medicine, he told the Guardian over the phone from a prison just outside Indonesias capital, Jakarta, in his first comments to the press since his May arrest. I have an inflammatory condition called Crohns disease thats incurable. Theres no medicine apart from cannabis that stops my stomach from aching. During the off-season Shaw lives in Thailand, where cannabis is subject to more liberal laws. He says he had endured the pain of going without cannabis in previous campaigns in Indonesia but says that health reasons spurred him to import the intercepted supply of 132 gummies this year. I made a stupid mistake, he says. But that mistake should not warrant the death penalty or a long spell in prison, he says. Theres people telling me Im about to spend the rest of my life in prison over some edibles, he says. Ive never been through anything like this. In the first two months after his arrest, he was at the lowest point in [my] life and in a really dark mental place. I felt helpless and alone, he says. I didnt want to wake up again. But through prayer and his faith, as well as access to a prison gym, he is starting to feel himself again, even while the 6ft 11in athlete shares a cramped cell with a dozen men. I just turned 35 but I still feel young, says the former Utah State basketballer, who has played in Argentina, Japan, Turkey, Thailand and Tunisia. I would love to continue my basketball career. Shaw, who plays as a center or power forward, says cannabis helps ease his anxiety and depression, as well as insomnia and the pain from Crohns. I dont use it to have fun and go party, he says. With my stomach condition, sometimes its hard for me to keep food down or go to the toilet. It just soothes the pain a little bit. Indonesia takes a hard line on drugs and carried out executions in 2016, by firing squad, of an Indonesian and three foreigners convicted of drug offenses. More than 500 people including almost 100 foreigners are on death row in the country, mostly for drug-related crimes. Indonesian police have said that Shaw sent text messages to his teammates saying that he would share some of the cannabis candies with them. What they consider drugs, I consider medicine, says Shaw. Its just different cultures. After Shaws arrest, Ronald Sipayung, the Soekarno-Hatta Airport police chief, told reporters that the American could face life in prison or even the death penalty if found guilty. We are still running the investigation to uncover the international drugs network behind this case and to stop its distribution, Sipayung said. Shaw was swiftly paraded at a press conference, appearing with his hands cuffed wearing an orange prison-issue T-shirt and a black face mask. He stood with his back to the audience as police chiefs exhibited the cannabis gummies, which weigh 869 grams in total and are worth $400. He said that to charge him with possession of almost a kilo of cannabis is unjust and sick, given that most of the weight is made up by the gummies themselves rather than the cannabis content. Ive been charged for almost a kilo, he says. I didnt have anything near that. Shaw is fundraising to cover his rising legal fees. He has not yet appeared in court despite being arrested five months ago, and he is still waiting for a first appearance date. Theyre making it seem like Im this big drug dealer, he says. Why would I bring the candy here to sell? It was for personal use. Stephanie Shepard, director of advocacy at Last Prisoner Project (LPP), which campaigns for the release of people imprisoned for cannabis-related offences, said: Jarreds case is not an isolated incident. Around the world, people are serving extreme sentences for non-violent cannabis offenses that pose no threat to public safety. Even in the US, she added, tens of thousands remain incarcerated for cannabis offences despite recreational legalization in almost half of states and a medical greenlight in all but two. These punishments run counter to international human rights standards, Shepard said. The potential efficacy of cannabis on Crohns disease is understudied but in September the journal Nature Medicine published a paper on a study which found that cannabis can ease chronic lower back pain without serious side effects. It came as Donald Trump talked up the benefits of cannabis-based medicines. There are parallels between Shaws case and that of Brittney Griner, the decorated American basketball player who was imprisoned in Russia for 10 months in 2022 after authorities found cannabis vape cartridges in her luggage. Griner was eventually released as part of a prisoner swap involving a Russian weapons trafficker. Jarred has always been one of the most generous and selfless people you could meet, his friend, Bree Petruzio, said on Shaws fundraising page. Jarred made a mistake. But I dont believe that mistake should cost him his entire future. The US embassy in Jakarta says it is aware of Shaws case but would not comment further. Donte West, an advocacy assistant at LPP who is handling Shaws case, said: Cannabis cant kill you, but possessing it can. We must get as much attention on this case in the hope that a positive resolution will set a powerful precedent. Im dedicated to making sure Jarred gets home to his mother. The Indonesian National Police did not respond to a request for comment for this story. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a7288ae1.jpg --- Live action Hungry Hungry Hippos though, now that was a sport. ~Aeon Azuran <cite>The_Popo posted [p:986611207] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>While its BS, people need to learn local laws and punishments before doing stuff like this. tl:dr - It is occurring in Indonesia. He has been held for 5 months and has received little public attention compared to when Brittney Griner when she was held in Russia. He uses gummies as a form of medical treatment to ease pain related to Crohns disease. Arrested over $400 worth of gummies. Being charged with having nearly a kilo of cannabis, although most of the weight is from the gummies themselves and not cannabis. Likely faces life imprisonment or the death penalty (possibly by firing squad, based on past executions).https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/oct/03/jarred-shaw-drugs-arrest-indonesia-basketball<quote>I use cannabis as medicine: the US basketball player facing execution in Indonesia over $400 of gummies Unlike his fellow basketball player, Brittney Griner, Jarred Shaw has received scant attention after being arrested for a drugs offence overseasWhen Jarred Shaw, an American basketball player in Indonesia, stepped down to the lobby in his apartment complex earlier this year to collect a package containing illegally imported cannabis gummies, he thought that the medicine to ease his Crohns disease had arrived.It had but so too had 10 undercover police officers. A video on social media shows Shaw, wearing a black T-shirt and shorts, shouting for help as the swarm of officers move to apprehend him.The 35-year-old from Dallas, Texas, is facing the possibility of the death penalty or a long spell behind bars. He was a key member of Prawira Bandung, who won the Indonesian Basketball League (IBL) in 2023, and he has scored more than 1,000 points over three seasons in the country. But now he is languishing in pre-trial detention and is banned for life from the IBL for life.I use cannabis as a medicine, he told the Guardian over the phone from a prison just outside Indonesias capital, Jakarta, in his first comments to the press since his May arrest. I have an inflammatory condition called Crohns disease thats incurable. Theres no medicine apart from cannabis that stops my stomach from aching.During the off-season Shaw lives in Thailand, where cannabis is subject to more liberal laws. He says he had endured the pain of going without cannabis in previous campaigns in Indonesia but says that health reasons spurred him to import the intercepted supply of 132 gummies this year. I made a stupid mistake, he says.But that mistake should not warrant the death penalty or a long spell in prison, he says. Theres people telling me Im about to spend the rest of my life in prison over some edibles, he says. Ive never been through anything like this. In the first two months after his arrest, he was at the lowest point in [my] life and in a really dark mental place.I felt helpless and alone, he says. I didnt want to wake up again. But through prayer and his faith, as well as access to a prison gym, he is starting to feel himself again, even while the 6ft 11in athlete shares a cramped cell with a dozen men. I just turned 35 but I still feel young, says the former Utah State basketballer, who has played in Argentina, Japan, Turkey, Thailand and Tunisia. I would love to continue my basketball career.Shaw, who plays as a center or power forward, says cannabis helps ease his anxiety and depression, as well as insomnia and the pain from Crohns. I dont use it to have fun and go party, he says. With my stomach condition, sometimes its hard for me to keep food down or go to the toilet. It just soothes the pain a little bit.Indonesia takes a hard line on drugs and carried out executions in 2016, by firing squad, of an Indonesian and three foreigners convicted of drug offenses. More than 500 people including almost 100 foreigners are on death row in the country, mostly for drug-related crimes.Indonesian police have said that Shaw sent text messages to his teammates saying that he would share some of the cannabis candies with them. What they consider drugs, I consider medicine, says Shaw. Its just different cultures.After Shaws arrest, Ronald Sipayung, the Soekarno-Hatta Airport police chief, told reporters that the American could face life in prison or even the death penalty if found guilty. We are still running the investigation to uncover the international drugs network behind this case and to stop its distribution, Sipayung said.Shaw was swiftly paraded at a press conference, appearing with his hands cuffed wearing an orange prison-issue T-shirt and a black face mask. He stood with his back to the audience as police chiefs exhibited the cannabis gummies, which weigh 869 grams in total and are worth $400.He said that to charge him with possession of almost a kilo of cannabis is unjust and sick, given that most of the weight is made up by the gummies themselves rather than the cannabis content. Ive been charged for almost a kilo, he says. I didnt have anything near that.Shaw is fundraising to cover his rising legal fees. He has not yet appeared in court despite being arrested five months ago, and he is still waiting for a first appearance date. Theyre making it seem like Im this big drug dealer, he says. Why would I bring the candy here to sell? It was for personal use.Stephanie Shepard, director of advocacy at Last Prisoner Project (LPP), which campaigns for the release of people imprisoned for cannabis-related offences, said: Jarreds case is not an isolated incident. Around the world, people are serving extreme sentences for non-violent cannabis offenses that pose no threat to public safety. Even in the US, she added, tens of thousands remain incarcerated for cannabis offences despite recreational legalization in almost half of states and a medical greenlight in all but two. These punishments run counter to international human rights standards, Shepard said.The potential efficacy of cannabis on Crohns disease is understudied but in September the journal Nature Medicine published a paper on a study which found that cannabis can ease chronic lower back pain without serious side effects. It came as Donald Trump talked up the benefits of cannabis-based medicines.There are parallels between Shaws case and that of Brittney Griner, the decorated American basketball player who was imprisoned in Russia for 10 months in 2022 after authorities found cannabis vape cartridges in her luggage. Griner was eventually released as part of a prisoner swap involving a Russian weapons trafficker.Jarred has always been one of the most generous and selfless people you could meet, his friend, Bree Petruzio, said on Shaws fundraising page. Jarred made a mistake. But I dont believe that mistake should cost him his entire future.The US embassy in Jakarta says it is aware of Shaws case but would not comment further.Donte West, an advocacy assistant at LPP who is handling Shaws case, said: Cannabis cant kill you, but possessing it can. We must get as much attention on this case in the hope that a positive resolution will set a powerful precedent. Im dedicated to making sure Jarred gets home to his mother.The Indonesian National Police did not respond to a request for comment for this story.https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a7288ae1.jpg</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 10/03/25 6:54:00 AM #2:	Unless this guy is white, Trump won't do anything for him <cite>Zikten posted [p:986611237] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>Unless this guy is white, Trump won't do anything for him</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 10/03/25 6:54:55 AM #3:	Zikten posted... Unless this guy is white, Trump won't do anything for him Nope, he's Black. --- "Be good to yourself, because everyone else in the world is probably out to get you." - Dr. Harleen Quinzel <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:986611245] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>Unless this guy is white, Trump won't do anything for him</quote>Nope, he's Black.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZevLoveDOOM 10/03/25 7:00:51 AM #4:	death sentence for consuming cannabis? Jesus Christ dude! <cite>ZevLoveDOOM posted [p:986611274] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>death sentence for consuming cannabis? Jesus Christ dude!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glob 10/03/25 7:06:42 AM #5:	ZevLoveDOOM posted... death sentence for consuming cannabis? Jesus Christ dude! The sentence is obviously harsh, but going to another country and pulling this shit isnt on either. I see a sob story every few weeks from some idiot backpacker who has come over here and been caught fighting or taking drugs or something and is somehow astounded that theyre in actual trouble and wants people to pay their legal fees for them. <cite>Glob posted [p:986611295] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>ZevLoveDOOM posted... </cite><quote>death sentence for consuming cannabis? Jesus Christ dude!</quote>The sentence is obviously harsh, but going to another country and pulling this shit isnt on either.I see a sob story every few weeks from some idiot backpacker who has come over here and been caught fighting or taking drugs or something and is somehow astounded that theyre in actual trouble and wants people to pay their legal fees for them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Error1355 10/03/25 7:10:53 AM #6:	One of the things you should do when traveling to another country is learn their laws. Absolutely batshit insane they put people to death over weed there, but if you're in a country with that strict weed laws then you should probably know that before ordering weed there. They honestly should just revoke his ability to go to their country and just deport instead of death penalty for weed gummies lol --- Up to no good searching for tomorrow Misunderstood when you're headed straight into the flames <cite>Error1355 posted [p:986611315] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>One of the things you should do when traveling to another country is learn their laws.Absolutely batshit insane they put people to death over weed there, but if you're in a country with that strict weed laws then you should probably know that before ordering weed there.They honestly should just revoke his ability to go to their country and just deport instead of death penalty for weed gummies lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SgtBash 10/03/25 7:12:35 AM #7:	ZevLoveDOOM posted... death sentence for consuming cannabis? Jesus Christ dude! Asian countries take a more harsher stance when it comes to drugs regardless of what drug it is. The harshness is down to the amount of the drug the person has. In some countries the Death Penalty is mandatory for drug offenses, and although I've never been to Asia there are signs at the airport warning that drug trafficking is punishable by Death https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Taiwan --- Come to Relax https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1558-relaxation-island <cite>SgtBash posted [p:986611320] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>ZevLoveDOOM posted...</cite><quote>death sentence for consuming cannabis? Jesus Christ dude!</quote>Asian countries take a more harsher stance when it comes to drugs regardless of what drug it is. The harshness is down to the amount of the drug the person has.In some countries the Death Penalty is mandatory for drug offenses, and although I've never been to Asia there are signs at the airport warning that drug trafficking is punishable by Deathhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_Taiwan</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkknight109 10/03/25 7:14:21 AM #8:	Error1355 posted... One of the things you should do when traveling to another country is learn their laws. This. Always check your medications before going overseas. I took my mother to Japan this year and she's on some pretty heavy-duty psychotropic medications, as well as an opioid painkiller for scoliosis. Checked Japan's laws for drugs and, lo and behold, two of her medications were on the controlled substance list. Turned out to be a minor inconvenience at worst, as I just had to apply for an import certificate for personal use with a note from her physician and declare them at customs, but it could have been a major problem if I hadn't checked beforehand. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:986611329] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>Error1355 posted... </cite><quote>One of the things you should do when traveling to another country is learn their laws.</quote>This. Always check your medications before going overseas.I took my mother to Japan this year and she's on some pretty heavy-duty psychotropic medications, as well as an opioid painkiller for scoliosis. Checked Japan's laws for drugs and, lo and behold, two of her medications were on the controlled substance list. Turned out to be a minor inconvenience at worst, as I just had to apply for an import certificate for personal use with a note from her physician and declare them at customs, but it could have been a major problem if I hadn't checked beforehand.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HighSeraph 10/03/25 7:19:36 AM #9:	And we call America a joke country --- The shadows I live with are numberless <cite>HighSeraph posted [p:986611356] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>And we call America a joke country</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fan357 10/03/25 7:27:11 AM #10:	Hopefully he gets out of this. Gotta pay attention to drug laws though. --- Never forget where you came from. <cite>fan357 posted [p:986611405] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>Hopefully he gets out of this. Gotta pay attention to drug laws though. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 10/03/25 7:34:02 AM #11:	In previous administrations id be hopeful that he'd get diplomatic embassy support but not this one :( --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:986611437] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>In previous administrations id be hopeful that he'd get diplomatic embassy support but not this one :(</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeoBowser 10/03/25 7:48:00 AM #13:	thats crazy --- I'm feeling myself, I'm feeling myself, I'm feeling my feeling my' <cite>NeoBowser posted [p:986611505] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>thats crazy</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kind9 10/03/25 7:51:30 AM #14:	Of all the countries in all the world... <cite>kind9 posted [p:986611530] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>Of all the countries in all the world...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
C_Pain 10/03/25 7:53:56 AM #15:	That sucks. I have crohns and can attest to marijuana being helpful, but so are pharmaceuticals. --- How quaint. <cite>C_Pain posted [p:986611542] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>That sucks. I have crohns and can attest to marijuana being helpful, but so are pharmaceuticals. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RasterGraphic 10/03/25 7:55:27 AM #16:	South East Asian has notoriously strict laws on cannabis ... like, its not even an obscure thing. --- "Well, thanks to the Internet, I'm now bored with sex." - Philip J. Fry <cite>RasterGraphic posted [p:986611547] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>South East Asian has notoriously strict laws on cannabis ... like, its not even an obscure thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cheater87 10/03/25 7:56:30 AM #17:	Why do people not look up laws before bringing drugs to other nations? --- Just call me Discount Dan. <cite>Cheater87 posted [p:986611552] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>Why do people not look up laws before bringing drugs to other nations? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kind9 10/03/25 8:00:20 AM #18:	He must have known the law but thought he could get away with it. <cite>kind9 posted [p:986611576] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>He must have known the law but thought he could get away with it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 10/03/25 8:05:31 AM #19:	The_Popo posted... I just turned 35 but I still feel young, says the former Utah State basketballer, How dare he. Regardless of any other unfair treatment he's getting, this was just... I'm going to attribute it to that dark mental state he said he was in. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:986611609] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>The_Popo posted... </cite><quote>I just turned 35 but I still feel young, says the former Utah State basketballer,</quote>How dare he.Regardless of any other unfair treatment he's getting, this was just... I'm going to attribute it to that dark mental state he said he was in.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 10/03/25 8:14:56 AM #20:	kind9 posted... He must have known the law but thought he could get away with it. Only a true idiot, or someone extremely self-important, wouldn't bother to check the laws of countries they live in or travel to. --- How many millions have you made off of AI? Have you even made enough to quit your job? It's not meant to make you rich, but to make the billionaires richer. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:986611654] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>kind9 posted... </cite><quote>He must have known the law but thought he could get away with it.</quote>Only a true idiot, or someone extremely self-important, wouldn't bother to check the laws of countries they live in or travel to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SgtBash 10/03/25 8:18:41 AM #21:	008Zulu posted... Only a true idiot, or someone extremely self-important, wouldn't bother to check the laws of countries they live in or travel to. Some athletes aren't the smartest in the World when it comes to drugs, like those who are caught cheating, they'll either deny it and sue, or they'll claim it was from food they ate. Biggest example of the former would be Lance Armstrong. --- Come to Relax https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1558-relaxation-island <cite>SgtBash posted [p:986611677] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>008Zulu posted...</cite><quote>Only a true idiot, or someone extremely self-important, wouldn't bother to check the laws of countries they live in or travel to.</quote>Some athletes aren't the smartest in the World when it comes to drugs, like those who are caught cheating, they'll either deny it and sue, or they'll claim it was from food they ate.Biggest example of the former would be Lance Armstrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
El_Marsh 10/03/25 8:19:25 AM #22:	He's really fucking stupid for not bothering to learn or adhere to the local laws but possession of cannabis is not worth killing someone over. Just fine and deport him. --- https://i.imgur.com/RPUuSll.gifv <cite>El_Marsh posted [p:986611682] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>He's really fucking stupid for not bothering to learn or adhere to the local laws but possession of cannabis is not worth killing someone over. Just fine and deport him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lilORANG 10/03/25 8:31:19 AM #23:	Do we have any Indonesian arms dealers we can trade for him? --- Science and Algorithms <cite>lilORANG posted [p:986611739] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>Do we have any Indonesian arms dealers we can trade for him?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
kirbymuncher 10/03/25 8:43:36 AM #24:	Cheater87 posted... Why do people not look up laws before bringing drugs to other nations? it's not even "bringing" it, from my understanding. which would be I think a lot more reasonable mistake. he specifically got it imported once already there, which if it's actually illegal I imagine is not too straightforward I don't think there's any way you'd do this by accident --- THIS IS WHAT I HATE A BOUT EVREY WEBSITE!! THERES SO MUCH PEOPLE READING AND POSTING STUIPED STUFF <cite>kirbymuncher posted [p:986611836] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>Cheater87 posted... </cite><quote>Why do people not look up laws before bringing drugs to other nations?</quote>it's not even "bringing" it, from my understanding. which would be I think a lot more reasonable mistake. he specifically got it imported once already there, which if it's actually illegal I imagine is not too straightforward I don't think there's any way you'd do this by accident</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlueTigerLion 10/03/25 9:14:22 AM #25:	I remember The Act of Killing about Indonesia, where leaders carried out mass killings in the 1960s and faced no consequences. It rarely gets mentioned with the Holocaust or other genocides, probably because many of the perpetrators still held power through the 70s90s, some even later. --- Hey now. <cite>BlueTigerLion posted [p:986612032] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>I remember The Act of Killing about Indonesia, where leaders carried out mass killings in the 1960s and faced no consequences. It rarely gets mentioned with the Holocaust or other genocides, probably because many of the perpetrators still held power through the 70s90s, some even later.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SgtBash 10/03/25 9:18:28 AM #26:	BlueTigerLion posted... I remember The Act of Killing about Indonesia, where leaders carried out mass killings in the 1960s and faced no consequences. It rarely gets mentioned with the Holocaust or other genocides, probably because many of the perpetrators still held power through the 70s90s, some even later. There was a more recent example in the Philippines under Duterte. He organised death squads to hunt down anyone involved with drugs. ICC charged him with murder last week over it https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg5e1v85lrdo --- Come to Relax https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1558-relaxation-island <cite>SgtBash posted [p:986612054] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>BlueTigerLion posted...</cite><quote>I remember The Act of Killing about Indonesia, where leaders carried out mass killings in the 1960s and faced no consequences. It rarely gets mentioned with the Holocaust or other genocides, probably because many of the perpetrators still held power through the 70s90s, some even later.</quote>There was a more recent example in the Philippines under Duterte. He organised death squads to hunt down anyone involved with drugs.ICC charged him with murder last week over ithttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg5e1v85lrdo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AsIfByMagic 10/03/25 9:35:16 AM #27:	SgtBash posted... Some athletes aren't the smartest in the World when it comes to drugs, like those who are caught cheating, they'll either deny it and sue, or they'll claim it was from food they ate. Biggest example of the former would be Lance Armstrong. If Armstrong never took drugs, he would've had a forgettable career winning nothing and made unremarkable money until his retirement before 35. Instead he's a multi-millionaire who got like 20 years of being treated like a God. He was pretty smart about it. <cite>AsIfByMagic posted [p:986612192] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>SgtBash posted... </cite><quote>Some athletes aren't the smartest in the World when it comes to drugs, like those who are caught cheating, they'll either deny it and sue, or they'll claim it was from food they ate.Biggest example of the former would be Lance Armstrong.</quote>If Armstrong never took drugs, he would've had a forgettable career winning nothing and made unremarkable money until his retirement before 35. Instead he's a multi-millionaire who got like 20 years of being treated like a God. He was pretty smart about it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tropicalwood 10/03/25 10:06:46 AM #28:	pinky0926 posted... In previous administrations id be hopeful that he'd get diplomatic embassy support but not this one :( I don't think we have the Indonesian Lord of Wars to use as a prisoner exchange. --- ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya ayy lmao ayy lmao \|\| oaml oaml yya yya <cite>Tropicalwood posted [p:986612445] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>pinky0926 posted... </cite><quote>In previous administrations id be hopeful that he'd get diplomatic embassy support but not this one :(</quote>I don't think we have the Indonesian Lord of Wars to use as a prisoner exchange.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 10/03/25 10:18:16 AM #29:	I don't get people like this. Weed still is technically illegal in the US, and that dude is old enough to have grown up watching people ruin their lives over that stupid plant. There is no way you just casually think "Yea it's ok for me to have weed in another country without even checking if I can" <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:986612515] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>I don't get people like this. Weed still is technically illegal in the US, and that dude is old enough to have grown up watching people ruin their lives over that stupid plant. There is no way you just casually think "Yea it's ok for me to have weed in another country without even checking if I can"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 10/03/25 10:30:57 AM #30:	BlackScythe0 posted... watching people ruin their lives over that stupid plant lmaoooo --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:986612606] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted... </cite><quote>watching people ruin their lives over that stupid plant</quote>lmaoooo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
orangefire25 10/03/25 11:00:24 AM #31:	Wow I didn't know Indonesia was a complete dystopic shit hole, thanks for the deets on that wtf --- "My lord, even 'the bud' slips into alcoholism these days." - AlCalavicci <cite>orangefire25 posted [p:986612860] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>Wow I didn't know Indonesia was a complete dystopic shit hole, thanks for the deets on that wtf </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kind9 10/03/25 11:58:54 AM #33:	Grow up please. It's fully legal in my state, not "technically illegal". <cite>kind9 posted [p:986613390] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>Grow up please. It's fully legal in my state, not "technically illegal".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 10/03/25 11:59:52 AM #34:	kind9 posted... Grow up please. It's fully legal in my state, not "technically illegal". Supremacy Clause. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:986613394] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>kind9 posted... </cite><quote>Grow up please. It's fully legal in my state, not "technically illegal".</quote>Supremacy Clause. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 10/03/25 12:11:56 PM #35:	BlackScythe0 posted... Supremacy Clause. Spoken like a dude that doesn't go outside. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:986613502] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted... </cite><quote>Supremacy Clause.</quote>Spoken like a dude that doesn't go outside. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ssb_yunglink2 10/03/25 12:19:51 PM #36:	BlackScythe0 posted... Supremacy Clause. Unless youre somehow getting raided by the feds over weed that joint you smoke in California is indeed legal Saying nothing about importing weed in a country that will kill your for it, that stupid plant is a necessity for a lot of people dealing with pain and other conditions --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:986613552] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted... </cite><quote>Supremacy Clause.</quote>Unless youre somehow getting raided by the feds over weed that joint you smoke in California is indeed legal Saying nothing about importing weed in a country that will kill your for it, that stupid plant is a necessity for a lot of people dealing with pain and other conditions </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hinakuluiau 10/03/25 12:27:09 PM #37:	Glob posted... The sentence is obviously harsh, but going to another country and pulling this shit isnt on either. I see a sob story every few weeks from some idiot backpacker who has come over here and been caught fighting or taking drugs or something and is somehow astounded that theyre in actual trouble and wants people to pay their legal fees for them. The problem is that for people who live in areas where it's legal, it quickly becomes normalized. When you have legal and easy access to weed, it's easy to forget that there are places who are against it and that it has severe penalties. --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD <cite>Hinakuluiau posted [p:986613624] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>Glob posted... </cite><quote>The sentence is obviously harsh, but going to another country and pulling this shit isnt on either.I see a sob story every few weeks from some idiot backpacker who has come over here and been caught fighting or taking drugs or something and is somehow astounded that theyre in actual trouble and wants people to pay their legal fees for them.</quote>The problem is that for people who live in areas where it's legal, it quickly becomes normalized. When you have legal and easy access to weed, it's easy to forget that there are places who are against it and that it has severe penalties.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glob 10/03/25 12:29:27 PM #38:	Hinakuluiau posted... The problem is that for people who live in areas where it's legal, it quickly becomes normalized. When you have legal and easy access to weed, it's easy to forget that there are places who are against it and that it has severe penalties. Thats bullshit. When you fly to another country, you do at least the bare minimum of research to see what is different from your own country, unless youre an idiot. <cite>Glob posted [p:986613642] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>Hinakuluiau posted... </cite><quote>The problem is that for people who live in areas where it's legal, it quickly becomes normalized. When you have legal and easy access to weed, it's easy to forget that there are places who are against it and that it has severe penalties.</quote>Thats bullshit. When you fly to another country, you do at least the bare minimum of research to see what is different from your own country, unless youre an idiot.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monolith1676 10/03/25 12:33:19 PM #39:	Gwynevere posted... lmaoooo People have ruined their lives with it due to psychosis they have developed from using. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:986613676] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite><quote>lmaoooo</quote>People have ruined their lives with it due to psychosis they have developed from using.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lamdakastel 10/03/25 12:35:02 PM #40:	Tropicalwood posted... I don't think we have the Indonesian Lord of Wars to use as a prisoner exchange. As someone who lives here, you dont need prisoner exchange. Under the table bribe is enough. Last time couple of Filipinos who received death sentence were allowed to go home. <cite>lamdakastel posted [p:986613687] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>Tropicalwood posted... </cite><quote>I don't think we have the Indonesian Lord of Wars to use as a prisoner exchange.</quote>As someone who lives here, you dont need prisoner exchange. Under the table bribe is enough.Last time couple of Filipinos who received death sentence were allowed to go home.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cory898 10/03/25 12:35:47 PM #41:	Maybe we should be more harsh at the country with evil laws than we are with the guy who had a paper in judgement over his medicine. Or is it going to be fair in a few years for other countries to shake their heads at Americans who get arrested for daring to be trans? --- Probably the only Mario Maker 2 level I'll ever create worth sharing. 1RT-9RG-QKF <cite>Cory898 posted [p:986613692] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>Maybe we should be more harsh at the country with evil laws than we are with the guy who had a paper in judgement over his medicine. Or is it going to be fair in a few years for other countries to shake their heads at Americans who get arrested for daring to be trans?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 10/03/25 12:35:53 PM #42:	Monolith1676 posted... People have ruined their lives with it due to psychosis they have developed from using. No they haven't --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:986613694] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>Monolith1676 posted... </cite><quote>People have ruined their lives with it due to psychosis they have developed from using.</quote>No they haven't</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monolith1676 10/03/25 12:37:52 PM #43:	UnholyMudcrab posted... No they haven't There are tons of studies out there that link psychosis to weed use especially to those who are more susceptible to mental issues due to genetics. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:986613710] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted... </cite><quote>No they haven't</quote>There are tons of studies out there that link psychosis to weed use especially to those who are more susceptible to mental issues due to genetics.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hinakuluiau 10/03/25 12:40:11 PM #44:	Glob posted... Thats bullshit. When you fly to another country, you do at least the bare minimum of research to see what is different from your own country, unless youre an idiot. Sure, I don't disagree. Just saying that when you live somewhere where you can buy weed in less than ten minutes, everyone you know has used it, and it comes in multiple forms it becomes normalized. So you get used to using it to treat your medical conditions, you forget you have a few gummies in your bag, you might have some trace amounts of it at the bottom, etc. and next thing you know you might get the death penalty for something that isn't even against the law in the places you spend 99% of your time. --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD <cite>Hinakuluiau posted [p:986613733] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>Glob posted... </cite><quote>Thats bullshit. When you fly to another country, you do at least the bare minimum of research to see what is different from your own country, unless youre an idiot.</quote>Sure, I don't disagree. Just saying that when you live somewhere where you can buy weed in less than ten minutes, everyone you know has used it, and it comes in multiple forms it becomes normalized. So you get used to using it to treat your medical conditions, you forget you have a few gummies in your bag, you might have some trace amounts of it at the bottom, etc. and next thing you know you might get the death penalty for something that isn't even against the law in the places you spend 99% of your time. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Glob 10/03/25 12:44:13 PM #45:	Hinakuluiau posted... Sure, I don't disagree. Just saying that when you live somewhere where you can buy weed in less than ten minutes, everyone you know has used it, and it comes in multiple forms it becomes normalized. So you get used to using it to treat your medical conditions, you forget you have a few gummies in your bag, you might have some trace amounts of it at the bottom, etc. and next thing you know you might get the death penalty for something that isn't even against the law in the places you spend 99% of your time. Would you feel the same way if hed tried to just bring a firearm because hes allowed one in the states? <cite>Glob posted [p:986613774] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>Hinakuluiau posted... </cite><quote>Sure, I don't disagree. Just saying that when you live somewhere where you can buy weed in less than ten minutes, everyone you know has used it, and it comes in multiple forms it becomes normalized. So you get used to using it to treat your medical conditions, you forget you have a few gummies in your bag, you might have some trace amounts of it at the bottom, etc. and next thing you know you might get the death penalty for something that isn't even against the law in the places you spend 99% of your time.</quote>Would you feel the same way if hed tried to just bring a firearm because hes allowed one in the states?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 10/03/25 12:51:42 PM #46:	Monolith1676 posted... People have ruined their lives with it due to psychosis they have developed from using. I was more referring to stupid 3 strike laws and people knowingly getting a third strike. I know nothing about psychosis associated with weed. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:986613838] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>Monolith1676 posted... </cite><quote>People have ruined their lives with it due to psychosis they have developed from using.</quote>I was more referring to stupid 3 strike laws and people knowingly getting a third strike. I know nothing about psychosis associated with weed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hinakuluiau 10/03/25 12:53:54 PM #47:	Glob posted... Would you feel the same way if hed tried to just bring a firearm because hes allowed one in the states? My guy, I don't disagree with the idea that people should be careful when traveling and understand local laws. All I'm saying is that weed isn't seen as a big deal by people who live in places where you can buy it legally, guns are a lot harder to get ahold of and are looked at differently by the majority of people. Just saying that having some empathy is a good thing instead of immediately jumping to calling them out for sob stories, that they're bullshit, or that they're idiots. --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD <cite>Hinakuluiau posted [p:986613861] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>Glob posted... </cite><quote>Would you feel the same way if hed tried to just bring a firearm because hes allowed one in the states?</quote>My guy, I don't disagree with the idea that people should be careful when traveling and understand local laws. All I'm saying is that weed isn't seen as a big deal by people who live in places where you can buy it legally, guns are a lot harder to get ahold of and are looked at differently by the majority of people. Just saying that having some empathy is a good thing instead of immediately jumping to calling them out for sob stories, that they're bullshit, or that they're idiots. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssb_yunglink2 10/03/25 1:04:30 PM #49:	Monolith1676 posted... People have ruined their lives with it due to psychosis they have developed from using. Weed is not 100% safe. Thats factual. but neither is literally anything else we do everyday. Driving a car is one of the most dangerous things people do every single day Nothing is completely safe. That doesnt mean it should be illegal or prosecuted with the death penalty. You can ruin your life in a trillion ways but weed is the line drawn? --- Hee Ho <cite>ssb_yunglink2 posted [p:986613961] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>Monolith1676 posted... </cite><quote>People have ruined their lives with it due to psychosis they have developed from using.</quote>Weed is not 100% safe. Thats factual. but neither is literally anything else we do everyday. Driving a car is one of the most dangerous things people do every single dayNothing is completely safe. That doesnt mean it should be illegal or prosecuted with the death penalty. You can ruin your life in a trillion ways but weed is the line drawn? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
texanfan27 10/03/25 1:08:17 PM #50:	This isnt about justice, its extortion. --- When you find my sanity, please ask it to put pants on and return home, in that order please. <cite>texanfan27 posted [p:986614017] in Another US... [t:81049875]...</cite> <quote>This isnt about justice, its extortion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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