Current Events > The Eurovision countries are splintering over Israel's participation.

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BalanceLost
09/12/25 12:56:33 PM
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Spain, Ireland, Slovenia, Belgium, Iceland, Albania, Sweden, Finland and the Netherlands have expressed different levels of wanting Israel out.

Meanwhile Germany, Italy, Switzerland, Austria, Greece, Cyprus and Azerbaijan are expressing support for Israel.

A decision about whether Israel will be banned or not is supposed to come in December.

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sephiroth068
09/12/25 12:57:25 PM
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...what is this about? Im assuming this is about FIFA but I'm not sure

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saspa
09/12/25 12:59:06 PM
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France isn't part of eurovision?

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BalanceLost
09/12/25 1:00:49 PM
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sephiroth068 posted...
...what is this about? Im assuming this is about FIFA but I'm not sure
It is about the Eurovision Song Contest which is one of the oldest TV-shows in the world and the very first international music competition. It has aired every year since 1956 except for 2020, but the decision to cancel the show because of the pandemic came just two months before it was gonna take place so all countries had selected their entries.

Each country sends an original song which cant be longer than 3 minutes and you cant have more than 6 people on stage.

Famous winners include ABBA, Celine Dion and Mneskin. They all rose to international fame after winning.

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Zikten
09/12/25 1:00:59 PM
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sephiroth068 posted...
...what is this about? Im assuming this is about FIFA but I'm not sure
Its a song competition where each nation in Europe competes
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BalanceLost
09/12/25 1:01:20 PM
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saspa posted...
France isn't part of eurovision?
They are, but havent said anything yet. Around 40 countries take part.

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Xenogears15
09/12/25 1:03:06 PM
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I'm sorry, Azerbaijan is for Israel's inclusion?

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BalanceLost
09/12/25 1:11:20 PM
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Xenogears15 posted...
I'm sorry, Azerbaijan is for Israel's inclusion?
It surprised me too. I guess dictators gotta stick together.

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Aressar
09/12/25 1:16:30 PM
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I cannot help but notice Switzerland actually picked a side. The side of Israel no less.

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EpicMickeyDrew
09/12/25 1:18:35 PM
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Romania?

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sephiroth068
09/12/25 1:41:43 PM
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BalanceLost posted...
It is about the Eurovision Song Contest which is one of the oldest TV-shows in the world and the very first international music competition. It has aired every year since 1956 except for 2020, but the decision to cancel the show because of the pandemic came just two months before it was gonna take place so all countries had selected their entries.

Each country sends an original song which cant be longer than 3 minutes and you cant have more than 6 people on stage.

Famous winners include ABBA, Celine Dion and Mneskin. They all rose to international fame after winning.

Zikten posted...
Its a song competition where each nation in Europe competes
Ah I see. Wasn't aware this was a thing. Cool that I learned something new today

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Cheater87
09/12/25 2:02:57 PM
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Russia was banned for invading a nation, Israel is doing a holocaust, and they are still allowed?

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Aressar
09/12/25 5:57:08 PM
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Cheater87 posted...
Russia was banned for invading a nation, Israel is doing a holocaust, and they are still allowed?

Israel gets away with a lot, because it's Israel.

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__starsnostars
09/12/25 6:01:26 PM
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Israel isn't even in Europe.

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Charged151
09/12/25 6:03:43 PM
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__starsnostars posted...
Israel isn't even in Europe.
Several countries that aren't are allowed to compete.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/414145b2.jpg
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest

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Umbreon
09/12/25 6:06:26 PM
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The fact that some countries are opposing Isreal's participation gives me a small sliver of hope that eventually enough of the world will have Isreal's leader answer for his actions.


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Hospy
09/12/25 6:41:50 PM
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Xenogears15 posted...
I'm sorry, Azerbaijan is for Israel's inclusion?
What's surprising, Azerbaijan is pretty staunchly pro-Israel.
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TomClark
09/12/25 6:57:22 PM
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On the one hand, the years where Israel have done well (like with Dana International or Netta) have been the years where their acts have stood up to prejudice and the stereotypes of their nation, and I will never be opposed to the power of music, or of Eurovision as a whole, to say "fuck what people think I should be, I love myself and I love you all." The whole point of the show each year is about coming together and about love, and about embracing the our differences and turning them into commonalities for one night.

But on the other hand, fuck anyone who isn't prepared to enter into the show with the spirit of love, and I am fully on board with any protests/boycotts that are going on, because any attempt to subvert Eurovision into anything other than a night that brings us all together absolutely goes against the spirit of the whole thing, and anyone who embraces that can go to hell

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Tanthalas
09/12/25 7:09:28 PM
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Wtf? Cline Dion won it once? I thought the singers needed to be from the country they represent.

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BalanceLost
09/14/25 7:07:56 AM
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EpicMickeyDrew posted...
Romania?
They stopped competing a few years ago for financial reasons.

These are the 37 countries that competed this year. Eurovision is always in May.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/52a2819d.jpg

sephiroth068 posted...
Ah I see. Wasn't aware this was a thing. Cool that I learned something new today
Always fun to learn new things! It is watched by 160-200 million people.

Cheater87 posted...
Russia was banned for invading a nation, Israel is doing a holocaust, and they are still allowed?
Russia invaded another member of the EBU so banning them was easy for the EBU for that reason alone.

TomClark posted...
On the one hand, the years where Israel have done well (like with Dana International or Netta) have been the years where their acts have stood up to prejudice and the stereotypes of their nation, and I will never be opposed to the power of music, or of Eurovision as a whole, to say "fuck what people think I should be, I love myself and I love you all." The whole point of the show each year is about coming together and about love, and about embracing the our differences and turning them into commonalities for one night.

But on the other hand, fuck anyone who isn't prepared to enter into the show with the spirit of love, and I am fully on board with any protests/boycotts that are going on, because any attempt to subvert Eurovision into anything other than a night that brings us all together absolutely goes against the spirit of the whole thing, and anyone who embraces that can go to hell
Very beautifully and so spot on. Israel is trying to use Eurovision as a way to paint a picture of support for their genocide and therefore they must go.

Tanthalas posted...
Wtf? Cline Dion won it once? I thought the singers needed to be from the country they represent.
Nope, there are no such contest wide rules. A competing country could choose to have that as a requirement to represent them however but I dont think anyone do. Some have a rule that at least one songwriter must be from their country though.

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Funkydog
09/14/25 7:29:34 AM
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BalanceLost posted...
Very beautifully and so spot on. Israel is trying to use Eurovision as a way to paint a picture of support for their genocide and therefore they must go.
100% agreed.

Won't be watching myself this year if Israel is allowed to attend.

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ai123
09/14/25 7:31:40 AM
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Funkydog posted...
100% agreed.

Won't be watching myself this year if Israel is allowed to attend.
Same.

Netanyahu's propaganda filth causes an irresistible urge to vomit.

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Foppe
09/14/25 7:38:42 AM
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Tanthalas posted...
Wtf? Cline Dion won it once? I thought the singers needed to be from the country they represent.
Not only that, they really love to hire Swedish songwriters.
Azerbaijan won in 2011 with a song made by a a swede as an example.

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Thompson
09/14/25 7:39:06 AM
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This could turn into another 1970 ESC, but for a better reason at least.


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