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EPR-radar
09/11/25 6:42:30 PM
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A simple question that should be considered from time to time.

I'll weigh in later on.

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SpawnShadow
09/11/25 6:45:54 PM
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The terrorists within are almost always more dangerous than the terrorists without, even if the immediate body count is lower. And you don't get more "within" than a POTUS calling for an attack on Congress.

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_Blur_
09/11/25 6:46:06 PM
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January 6th (and its subsequent whitewashing by right-wing media) was more consequential for the U.S. 9/11 was more consequential for the rest of the world with the endless overseas wars it resulted in.

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rick_alverado
09/11/25 6:46:57 PM
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Probably 9/11, because it's also part of what led to 1/6 happening.
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Hospy
09/11/25 6:50:07 PM
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1/6 doesn't happen without 9/11
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K181
09/11/25 6:50:45 PM
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9/11 was deadlier, but 1/6 was far more insidious of an attack against the underpinnings of our republican institutions of government and ultimately a far more profound weakening of our the legal safeguards of our society.

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modena
09/11/25 6:52:05 PM
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9/11. Not counting all of the life lost from the "war", its what launched us into crippling debt, Afghanistan and started the great recession.

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Sayoria
09/11/25 6:53:33 PM
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As deadly as 9/11 was, 1/6 has been the societal fracture that reflects a more than likely permanent deterioration of America.

Physically wide, 9/11 was more deadly and dangerous.
Systematically, 1/6.

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MarshMellow
09/11/25 6:54:15 PM
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9/11 led to thousands of more deaths so I'll go with that.

Trump even being allowed to run again after 1/6 and then the felony convictions shows what a joke government we have.
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M1Astray
09/11/25 6:59:07 PM
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Honestly while it's easy to point to 6/1 I believe 9/11 was a nexus point for all of history.

Absolutely everything that has gone to shit both domestically within the US and globally is in some way connected to the chain of events 9/11 kicked off. The January insurrection attempt was just one of those long-term effects of causality stemming from 9/11.

Saying that to trace events back to their root cause you'd have to go to the election of Reagan. 9/11 allowed that faction to get a lot of their ambitions and longterm plans enacted but Reagan is the original source for basically all the worlds problems, hell if we die from climate change he's even the root cause of that too. It's really hard to get across just how deep this stuff goes and how systemically entrenched the path the world is on is in a single post.

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Thanatos_the_Great
09/11/25 7:04:46 PM
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rick_alverado posted...
Probably 9/11, because it's also part of what led to 1/6 happening.


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EPR-radar
09/11/25 7:07:25 PM
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M1Astray posted...
Honestly while it's easy to point to 6/1 I believe 9/11 was a nexus point for all of history.

Absolutely everything that has gone to shit both domestically within the US and globally is in some way connected to the chain of events 9/11 kicked off. The January insurrection attempt was just one of those long-term effects of causality stemming from 9/11.

Saying that to trace events back to their root cause you'd have to go to the election of Reagan. 9/11 allowed that faction to get a lot of their ambitions and longterm plans enacted but Reagan is the original source for basically all the worlds problems, hell if we die from climate change he's even the root cause of that too. It's really hard to get across just how deep this stuff goes and how systemically entrenched the path the world is on is in a single post.
IMO Reagan was a very significant milestone on the path to ruin the GOP is leading the US down, but he's not the start.

I think the start was in the Great Depression era, when a fraction of the US ruling class decided that they could never accept political results such as FDR and the New Deal, and therefore that democracy must be ended in the US.

This merry band of obscenely wealthy disgruntled plutocrats had nothing better to do with their time than have their mouthpieces write fascist op-eds for the Wall Street Journal until the civil rights realignment of the parties started in the 1960s. That union of bigotry and plutocracy is the origin story of movement conservatism, and of the modern Republican party (which is just movement conservatism as a political party).

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Fishels
09/11/25 7:08:46 PM
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1/6

all Americans agree 9/11 was an attack on America. The 1/6 rioters think theyre heros and millions agree with them. Thats why I have to go with 1/6

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thronedfire2
09/11/25 7:08:46 PM
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9/11 was more dangerous for the middle east than it was for the US

Trump has already done more damage to this country than Bin Laden ever dreamed of

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DrizztLink
09/11/25 7:10:18 PM
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1/6 was done in support of a man whose sheer incompetence killed a 9/11 worth of Americans every single day for literal months.

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EPR-radar
09/11/25 7:11:14 PM
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"Dangerous" is not a synonym for body count.

In fact, you and your ilk would be the loudest in saying an attempted coup by a sitting US president is far more dangerous to the country that any 9/11-scale foreign terrorist attack, if this were a mirror universe with the presidential perp of that coup being a Democrat.

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LightHawKnight
09/11/25 7:12:18 PM
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Fishels posted...
1/6

all Americans agree 9/11 was an attack on America. The 1/6 rioters think theyre heros and millions agree with them. Thats why I have to go with 1/6


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Voidgolem
09/11/25 7:14:12 PM
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without 9/11, you do not have a jan 6th because the republican party is gone, or at least diminished greatly

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Umbreon
09/11/25 7:15:34 PM
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Fishels posted...
1/6

all Americans agree 9/11 was an attack on America. The 1/6 rioters think theyre heros and millions agree with them. Thats why I have to go with 1/6


This is my reasoning as well.

9/11 we were (mostly) united as a nation. We wanted to make the people who attack us pay for the lives they stole.

1/6 was when a bunch of domestic terrorists attacked and the sitting president at the time approved of it. Not only are we divided as a nation, we may never again be truly united.


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ai123
09/11/25 7:17:20 PM
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Was 9/11 worse in that in resulted in very many more deaths? Yes.

Was the US' continuing existence as a democratic state more threatened by 9/11? No.


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creativerealms
09/11/25 7:18:28 PM
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1/6. Since those people took over our country. We only delayed them for four years.

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EPR-radar
09/11/25 7:20:32 PM
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Voidgolem posted...
without 9/11, you do not have a jan 6th because the republican party is gone, or at least diminished greatly
I wish. Without 9/11, the W Bush administration would most likely have succeeded in their stated goal at that time of gutting Social Security and Medicare, with the whole-hearted approval of nearly the entire mainstream media, and with enough D traitors joining in to make that shit sandwich "bipartisan".

Since Republicans are the party of plutocracy and capital, there will never be one weird trick or possible history that would end their power.

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Lillymon
09/11/25 7:22:33 PM
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A lot of Americans seem to be in denial about just how bad 1/6 was and still is. It seemed at the time to be an attempted coup that failed but has since seen the President who pushed for it re-elected, officials who supported it dominating the government, the people who actively participated in it now pardoned, and the plan to replace American democracy with their chosen brand of despotism now well under way.

In reality it became an ongoing coup that is now on the verge of succeeding. It may not be as deadly as 9/11 was but it's a thousand times as dangerous.

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EPR-radar
09/11/25 7:29:35 PM
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Lillymon posted...
A lot of Americans seem to be in denial about just how bad 1/6 was and still is. It seemed at the time to be an attempted coup that failed but has since seen the President who pushed for it re-elected, officials who supported it dominating the government, the people who actively participated in it now pardoned, and the plan to replace American democracy with their chosen brand of despotism now well under way.

In reality it became an ongoing coup that is now on the verge of succeeding. It may not be as deadly as 9/11 was but it's a thousand times as dangerous.
This.

Essentially, 1/6 was the Republican party officially putting political violence on the table as one of its options any time they don't get what they want.

And the post 1/6 reaction from US institutions, most particularly the mainstream media, has been "sounds good to us, we don't care about accountability for any of this".

I think the failure rate by US institutions here is nearly 100%. Although Democratic party leadership and the mainstream media are probably the two worst offenders, it is now crystal clear that any institutions that are rich are nearly always corrupted by that wealth at least to the extent of being made cowards by any threat to that wealth.

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suchiuomizu
09/11/25 7:33:12 PM
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This post and so many others thinking like this is why 1/6 was worse. Go away.

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EPR-radar
09/11/25 8:26:52 PM
#27:


It is telling that the wingnut response to this question is to focus only on the body count, leading trivially to their desired conclusion that 9/11 was "worse" (which isn't the question that was posed, by the way).

The more thoughtful answers where people picked 9/11 related to the downstream consequences of the attack much more so than the attack itself. In particular, the W Bush Iraq War fuckup was in no way an inevitable consequence of 9/11 -- it was a deliberate policy choice by those shitbirds to use 9/11 as an excuse to do what that faction of the GOP has always wanted to do in the middle east.

And of course the only correct answer to the question as posed (I'm mean like that) is 1/6. Literal treason from a sitting US president, with the connivance of his entire party, is literally unbeatable as a danger to the US unless/until we actually get into a real Civil War 2.0 scenario (God forbid).

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Fishels
09/11/25 8:27:52 PM
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Lillymon posted...
A lot of Americans seem to be in denial about just how bad 1/6 was and still is. It seemed at the time to be an attempted coup that failed but has since seen the President who pushed for it re-elected, officials who supported it dominating the government, the people who actively participated in it now pardoned, and the plan to replace American democracy with their chosen brand of despotism now well under way.

In reality it became an ongoing coup that is now on the verge of succeeding. It may not be as deadly as 9/11 was but it's a thousand times as dangerous.

Couldnt have said it better. I mean will we even have an election in 2028 ? Trump has joked about never having to vote again

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GeraldDarko
09/11/25 8:30:09 PM
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EPR-radar posted...
It is telling that the wingnut response to this question is to focus only on the body count, leading trivially to their desired conclusion that 9/11 was "worse" (which isn't the question that was posed, by the way).

The more thoughtful answers where people picked 9/11 related to the downstream consequences of the attack much more so than the attack itself. In particular, the W Bush Iraq War fuckup was in no way an inevitable consequence of 9/11 -- it was a deliberate policy choice by those shitbirds to use 9/11 as an excuse to do what that faction of the GOP has always wanted to do in the middle east.

And of course the only correct answer to the question as posed (I'm mean like that) is 1/6. Literal treason from a sitting US president, with the connivance of his entire party, is literally unbeatable as a danger to the US unless/until we actually get into a real Civil War 2.0 scenario (God forbid).

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cheat4ever
09/11/25 9:21:20 PM
#30:


9/11 set conservatives on the short path to crazy. It made surveillance and security vastly more important to the state than it otherwise would have and accelerated the erosion of personal freedoms.

1/6 was a threat that failed, not that another such attempt can't happen. 9/11 is a cancer that has been metastasizing for 24 years and still spreading.

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CobraGT
09/12/25 2:17:12 AM
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If you lived in NYC, I would understand thinking 1/6 was the less dangerous attack.

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EPR-radar
09/12/25 2:19:19 AM
#32:


GeraldDarko posted...
Everybody clap
Such compelling reasoning.

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Trumble
09/12/25 3:43:54 AM
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9/11 has killed more people so far, whether you only count the immediate deaths or also count those from the ensuing war.

However, 1/6s effects arent even close to over, whereas 9/11 is mostly history at this point. 1/6 will never even come close for immediate deaths, but longer term

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GGuirao13
09/12/25 4:03:27 AM
#34:


rick_alverado posted...
Probably 9/11, because it's also part of what led to 1/6 happening.
I'd say definitely.

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SgtBash
09/12/25 7:48:54 AM
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September 11 had far more casualties than January 6th

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R_Jackal
09/12/25 7:54:45 AM
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9/11. Death toll, Patriot act, and the general public radicalization of political opinions in the US started there. 1/6 doesn't get off the ground as an idea without 9/11 happening.
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DrPrimemaster
09/12/25 8:01:51 AM
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I don't think 1/6 happens if 9/11 doesn't happen. The state of the world would be completely different if 9/11 doesn't happen.

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TyVulpine
09/12/25 8:05:16 AM
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1/6 was never going to actually work, the results had already been certified.

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suchiuomizu
09/12/25 8:06:52 AM
#40:


SgtBash posted...
September 11 had far more casualties than January 6th

Which was not the question.

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snake_5036
09/12/25 8:26:36 AM
#41:


Hospy posted...
1/6 doesn't happen without 9/11
Fifth post gets it.

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Starks
09/12/25 8:26:37 AM
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Two decades of misadventures in the Middle East came out of 9/11. Almost all of it was pointless. Just endless self-soothing lies for conservatives and warhawks.

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TyVulpine
09/12/25 8:33:55 AM
#43:


Starks posted...
Two decades of misadventures in the Middle East came out of 9/11. Almost all of it was pointless. Just endless self-soothing lies for conservatives and warhawks.
"Never get involved in a land war in Asia"....

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SgtBash
09/12/25 8:39:40 AM
#44:


suchiuomizu posted...


Which was not the question.

It was asking which was more dangerous, obviously September 11 is

January 6 was brainwashed MAGA cultists being egged on by Trump trying to destroy democracy. Of course there was danger from big crowds, ransacked offices, called for Mike Pence to be hanged, tried to find Nancy Pelosi but didn't.

September 11 was a terrorist attack using planes that were hijacked. As well as those on the planes you have to factor in those who were in the Towers so the danger level is going to be a lot more worse.

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RchHomieQuanChi
09/12/25 8:52:04 AM
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I feel like 9/11 created the domino effect that resulted in the right becoming radicalized, leading to 1/6.

The anti-muslim/white nationalist sentiments went through the roof following that

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Prismsblade
09/12/25 8:56:00 AM
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Comparing a terrorist atk to a rebellion is like comparing apples to oranges.


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Umbreon
09/12/25 9:34:46 AM
#47:


Both were terrorist attacks.

9/11 was a foreign one.
1/6 was a domestic one.

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CobraGT
09/13/25 5:28:54 PM
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PballDepot
09/13/25 5:31:52 PM
#49:


9/11 changed everything, 1/6 changed nothing


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a-c-a-b
09/13/25 5:36:00 PM
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9/11 was worse by every scale.

The War on Terror and the foreign policy agenda that was implemented after 9/11 has resulted in millions of deaths.

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