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Doe 08/27/25 10:19:59 AM #1: |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing Worth reviewing for CEmen giving this board's current track record --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY ... Copied to Clipboard!
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monkmith 08/27/25 10:24:59 AM #2: |
isn't it depressing that AI is now making people question writing styles? what would be really nice is if AI models had to end every statement with something denoting it as AI slop. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AuthenticZac 08/27/25 10:27:31 AM #3: |
"AI chatbots use the em dash () more frequently than most editors do, especially in places where human authors are much more likely to use parentheses or commas." Phew, my over-use of parenthesis will be what saves me (every sentence comes with bonus thoughts!). --- https://i.imgur.com/MUJCZY9.png My Personal Backlog (I might have a problem) - https://www.backloggery.com/AuthenticZac ... Copied to Clipboard!
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myusernameislame 08/27/25 10:28:55 AM #4: |
Well now they're just going to tweak their AIs to try to hide the signs without making the "substance" of what it spits out any better. The goal is to fool people, not actually succeed in whatever the task is. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 08/27/25 10:29:08 AM #5: |
I've been using the em-dash before it was cool. --- "Be good to yourself, because everyone else in the world is probably out to get you." - Dr. Harleen Quinzel ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xenogears15 08/27/25 10:31:25 AM #7: |
Solar_Crimson posted... I've been using the em-dash before it was cool. --- This rant was brought to you by your local random thinker. I'm as Canadian as Wayne Gretzky crashing a snowmobile into a moose. - JIC X ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_____Cait 08/27/25 10:31:31 AM #8: |
myusernameislame posted... Well now they're just going to tweak their AIs to try to hide the signs without making the "substance" of what it spits out any better. The goal is to fool people, not actually succeed in whatever the task is. This is a great observation Would you like me to create a comprehensive list showcasing the various strengths and weaknesses of AI writing styles? --- ORAS secret base: http://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kirbymuncher 08/27/25 10:33:41 AM #9: |
AuthenticZac posted... "AI chatbots use the em dash () more frequently than most editors do, especially in places where human authors are much more likely to use parentheses or commas."What do you do when your bonus thoughts need to have extra bonus thoughts in them? --- THIS IS WHAT I HATE A BOUT EVREY WEBSITE!! THERES SO MUCH PEOPLE READING AND POSTING STUIPED STUFF ... Copied to Clipboard!
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monkmith 08/27/25 10:36:05 AM #10: |
_____Cait posted... This is a great observation Would you like me to create a comprehensive list showcasing the various strengths and weaknesses of AI writing styles?AbsolutelyId love that! Creating a well-rounded list of strengths and weaknesses of AI writing styles would be super helpful. To get started, could you clarify a bit what you have in mind:
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Hexenherz 08/27/25 10:38:28 AM #12: |
I hate AI for the reason that every time I enter a prompt, it spits out an answer that looks nearly identical to my own writing style. I'm already paranoid AF about being accused of plagiarism (I overcite everything) so this just feeds into that anxiety --- RS3: UltimaSuende - CE Thread Zone https://letterboxd.com/BMovieBro/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KaZooo 08/27/25 10:38:30 AM #13: |
Solar_Crimson posted... I've been using the em-dash before it was cool.This. Can't wait to be accused of using AI solely because I knew how to manipulate the English language structure better than virtually everyone I have to communicate with at work. --- Competing every night, both ends, shoot inside/outside, fast break, transition, Monta Ellis have it all ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bass 08/27/25 10:40:29 AM #14: |
AuthenticZac posted... "AI chatbots use the em dash () more frequently than most editors do, especially in places where human authors are much more likely to use parentheses or commas."My love of the comma will save me! --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AuthenticZac 08/27/25 10:42:23 AM #15: |
kirbymuncher posted... What do you do when your bonus thoughts need to have extra bonus thoughts in them? That's when the double parenthesis get busted out (Not that common, but it does happen (it's a bad habit) ). --- https://i.imgur.com/MUJCZY9.png My Personal Backlog (I might have a problem) - https://www.backloggery.com/AuthenticZac ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kirbymuncher 08/27/25 10:42:27 AM #16: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] you're safe at least since that's not a real emdash --- THIS IS WHAT I HATE A BOUT EVREY WEBSITE!! THERES SO MUCH PEOPLE READING AND POSTING STUIPED STUFF ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kirbymuncher 08/27/25 10:58:33 AM #18: |
myusernameislame posted... Well now they're just going to tweak their AIs to try to hide the signs without making the "substance" of what it spits out any better. The goal is to fool people, not actually succeed in whatever the task is.I suspect 99%+ of the people submitting unedited AI articles to wikipedia will never ever look at that guidelines page this post did make me sort of curious though and I went over to chatgpt to see if I could get it to write something that resembles my own posting style on gfaqs. Turns out I sort of can? I don't think it's perfect and wouldn't fool people (although maybe I'm just biased since obviously I can tell my own writing apart from an AI) but it's better than I expected. I imagine you could do some finetuned training on all my posts ever and it would turn out pretty good chatgpt version of me, apparently: sometimes I catch myself reading something online and wondering if a person actually wrote it. The rhythm feels natural, the word choice feels casual, and yet I cant quite shake the question. its strange how close the two have become --- THIS IS WHAT I HATE A BOUT EVREY WEBSITE!! THERES SO MUCH PEOPLE READING AND POSTING STUIPED STUFF ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zero_Destroyer 08/27/25 11:01:31 AM #19: |
I am annoyed to shit by the em dash thing lol --- Enjoy movies and television? Check out my blog! I do reviews and analyses. http://fictionrantreview.wordpress.com/ (The Force Awakens spoiler review up!) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheLiarParadox 08/27/25 12:01:45 PM #21: |
AuthenticZac posted... "AI chatbots use the em dash () more frequently than most editors do, especially in places where human authors are much more likely to use parentheses or commas."I abuse both, so --- Spongebob is not a contraceptive. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Starks 08/27/25 12:03:58 PM #22: |
The em dash is the big one for me. It's not something that is taught and typing it is not always obvious. Most people barely know how to use hyphens or en dashes properly. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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McMarbles 08/27/25 12:06:36 PM #23: |
Starks posted... The em dash is the big one for me. It's not something that is taught and typing it is not always obvious. Most people barely know how to use hyphens or en dashes properly.Every version of Word Ive used will autocorrect two hyphens into an em dash, so theyre really not that hard to use. --- Currently playing: Tales of Graces f (Switch) Never befriend a man in sandals and always measure twice, cut once. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivynn 08/27/25 12:10:09 PM #24: |
Solar_Crimson posted... I've been using the em-dash before it was cool. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Charged151 08/27/25 12:10:28 PM #25: |
Overuse of em dashesThe article got the most important part. Props. Avoid the em dash like the plague guys. Edit: Oh, this has been mentioned a bunch already? Well, you guys are sharp. As a suggestions, when using AI to proof papers, ask it not to use em dashes. --- I'm...the...master...of...ellipses... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wanderingshade 08/27/25 12:12:49 PM #26: |
AuthenticZac posted... "AI chatbots use the em dash () more frequently than most editors do, especially in places where human authors are much more likely to use parentheses or commas." ADHD wins again (even though it's terrible living with it)! --- "You're made of spare parts, aren't ya, bud?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivynn 08/27/25 12:14:53 PM #27: |
Starks posted... The em dash is the big one for me. It's not something that is taught and typing it is not always obvious. Most people barely know how to use hyphens or en dashes properly. Personally, I use it for when a character is being cut off when they are saying something, which feels natural. AI tends to use it a lot in the middle of sentences. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Starks 08/27/25 12:19:33 PM #28: |
Charged151 posted... The article got the most important part. Props.We can't just discard punctuation simply because AI is ruining it. The em dash is appropriate for clear breaks in thought. That being said, parenthesis work just as well if putting those thoughts between commas would be too long. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheOnionKnight 08/27/25 12:27:35 PM #29: |
I use em-dashes all the time and I'm not going to stop. They're great. They can flow so many ways. --- The owls are not what they seem. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VRX3000 08/27/25 12:35:37 PM #30: |
Yeahso they hate title case for headings? Thats the appropriate way to make a heading. also em dashes are great for having someones speech get cut off by another character --- ~ my improv troupe ~ www.forgetfulsquirrels.com ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnholyMudcrab 08/27/25 12:43:17 PM #31: |
I feel the same way about the em dash as I do about the semicolon, which is that for basically anything you can do with it, you're better off just using something else instead. --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 08/27/25 12:44:41 PM #32: |
AuthenticZac posted... "AI chatbots use the em dash () more frequently than most editors do, especially in places where human authors are much more likely to use parentheses or commas."Lol, I do the same thing --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Letsago 08/27/25 11:22:23 PM #33: |
Now people are associating em dashes with AI because they can't be bothered to put that symbol on a keyboard --- Let's-a go! Okey dokey! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MC_BatCommander 08/27/25 11:23:30 PM #34: |
Solar_Crimson posted... I've been using the em-dash before it was cool. I stopped using it in work emails cause I don't want people to think I'm using AI --- The Legend is True! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 08/28/25 12:03:10 AM #36: |
Well, fuck. I swear I'm not using an AI to write, it's just that I evidently write like a fuckin' robot. Hence all the profanity, robots haven't figured out how to use it right yet. It's my Shitboleth. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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viewmaster_pi 08/28/25 2:23:22 AM #37: |
i use the regular minus dash (-) a lot --- We will leave this place an empty stone ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Starks 08/28/25 4:22:30 PM #38: |
The en dash should be a larger red flag since that's sometimes even harder to trigger. Even then, using a hyphen for ranges is not unheard of. --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bover_87 08/30/25 4:15:57 AM #40: |
myusernameislame posted... Well now they're just going to tweak their AIs to try to hide the signs without making the "substance" of what it spits out any better. The goal is to fool people, not actually succeed in whatever the task is.Why? Their goal is to fool chumps who take everything a chatbot says as gospel, they're not really interested in fooling experts. --- I...I shall consume. Consume...consume everything. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr_Karate_II 08/30/25 4:23:55 AM #41: |
Hexenherz posted... I hate AI for the reason that every time I enter a prompt, it spits out an answer that looks nearly identical to my own writing style. I'm already paranoid AF about being accused of plagiarism (I overcite everything) so this just feeds into that anxietyThen stop using Ai? --- I believe in Joe Hendry!! Michigan Wolverines men's basketball: Big Ten Champions ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ROBBAN 08/30/25 5:14:03 AM #42: |
AuthenticZac posted... "AI chatbots use the em dash () more frequently than most editors do, especially in places where human authors are much more likely to use parentheses or commas." Robert Jordans the Wheel of Time books uses dashes frequently --- Kremlin delenda est ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rexcrk 08/30/25 9:25:14 AM #43: |
_____Cait posted... This is a great observation Would you like me to create a comprehensive list showcasing the various strengths and weaknesses of AI writing styles? --- Tell my tale to those who ask. Tell it truly, the ill deeds, along with the good, and let me be judged accordingly. The rest.. is silence. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bnui_ransder 08/30/25 9:44:59 AM #44: |
This is terrible because a lot of the AI generated examples honestly just seemed like things I would write and phrases I would use when I wasn't lazy and actually cared about getting a point across clearly. And I mean terrible because that means I wouldn't be able to truly recognize if a block of text was actually created by an AI or not. --- So much ART https://www.tumblr.com/bnuiransder ... Copied to Clipboard!
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621 08/30/25 10:42:26 AM #45: |
damn, people weren't lying when they said I write like AI --- Allmind exists for all mercenaries. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nota214 08/30/25 10:46:00 AM #46: |
ROBBAN posted... Robert Jordans the Wheel of Time books uses dashes frequentlySo do I. Am I AI? --- This post generated by AI slop ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HokagoTeaTime 08/30/25 5:16:08 PM #48: |
The em dash is useful but when used the way GPT tends to use it, it has a certain combination of perky informality and pedantic attention to detail that I find very irritating I feel similarly about almost all these traits of the standard GPT style. It distilled the average of all English writing, which turns out to be the American middlebrow, business-casual style of mediocre prose found on blogs, op eds, ad copy, high school essays, etc. --- visit mahochannel for premium THE iDOLM@STER recordings: https://mahochan.neocities.org/channel ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Evening_Dragon 08/30/25 5:20:13 PM #49: |
AI will bring us closer together by making remote communication impossible to filter from lies --- And which of you by worrying can add a single hour to your span of life? It's Guide ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Enclave 08/30/25 5:26:59 PM #50: |
AuthenticZac posted... "AI chatbots use the em dash () more frequently than most editors do, especially in places where human authors are much more likely to use parentheses or commas." Personally I know I over use commas, guess I won't stop. --- The commercial says that Church isn't for perfect people, I guess that's why I'm an atheist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PowerOats 08/30/25 5:39:58 PM #51: |
If you guys typed more like Vegy, you wouldn't have this problem ... Copied to Clipboard!
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