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OrangeCrush980
08/21/25 9:39:01 PM
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And the Supreme Court ruled 6-3 that the executive order is constitutional?

What would Congress do?

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BlackScythe0
08/21/25 9:39:51 PM
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It's a civil war situation.
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Lillymon
08/21/25 9:42:55 PM
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A Congress dominated by Republicans? Two things. Jack and shit. In such a case your only hope is that the military finally takes action.

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UnsteadyOwl
08/21/25 9:47:04 PM
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Lillymon posted...
A Congress dominated by Republicans? Two things. Jack and shit. In such a case your only hope is that the military finally takes action.
Republicans wouldn't do anything but you better believe Chuck Schumer would write a very strongly worded letter.

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Hejiru
08/21/25 9:48:58 PM
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Congress has already proven theyre willing to roll over and let him do whatever he wants, constitution be damned.

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The_Popo
08/21/25 9:49:23 PM
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Supreme Court would find it unconstitutional and tell him to amend it to include all elections. Even if they are held outside of the US.

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Lillymon
08/21/25 9:54:56 PM
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hmnut7 posted...
By what authority would the military have to over rule the president, congress and the Supreme Court?
The same authority the Founding Fathers had to overrule the King.

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divot1338
08/21/25 10:02:20 PM
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  1. An illegal order from what will be a former president is not binding.
  2. Reconstitute a Congress in absentia and elect a president and new members of congress.
  3. Call up all national guards and federalize all military equipment, bases and personnel.
  4. The South will fall again.

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_____Cait
08/21/25 10:04:06 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
It's a civil war situation.

After all the other things that have happened, and nobody did anything except stand outside and protest, yeah not happening.

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Metal_Gear_Raxis
08/21/25 10:04:39 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
It's a civil war situation.
This. The country's over if Trump does this and gets away with it.

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WingsOfGood
08/21/25 10:06:05 PM
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OrangeCrush980 posted...
What would Congress do?


"Well get em next time. Enjoy your holiday"
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WingsOfGood
08/21/25 10:07:13 PM
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divot1338 posted...
An illegal order from what will be a former president is not binding.

Scotus said official act not illegal
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Hejiru
08/21/25 10:10:47 PM
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I dont think a civil war would happen even if he did this. Americans are complacent, wed need to lose our bread and circuses first. (Or McDonalds and Netflix as the case may be)

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Metal_Gear_Raxis
08/21/25 10:11:29 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Scotus said official act not illegal
Thing about the scenario divot was alluding to... the winner gets to decide what was and wasn't legal.

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divot1338
08/21/25 10:14:25 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Scotus said official act not illegal
Completely bullshit ruling notwithstanding it actually says that its not illegal for the president to commit that type of illegal act.

That means it absolves them of any consequences from their action[s]. It doesnt mean the action suddenly becomes legal.

The difference here is he is no longer the president at the end of his term so he can no longer perpetuate the nonsense that usually gets upheld like this.

And since the federal government isnt even involved until the certification by Congress, Trump literally has no say in the matter.

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HighSeraph
08/21/25 10:14:58 PM
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What if he issued order 66?

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BlackScythe0
08/21/25 10:18:16 PM
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_____Cait posted...
After all the other things that have happened, and nobody did anything except stand outside and protest, yeah not happening.

Well yea the situation is either war or just giving up.
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Smiffwilm
08/21/25 10:18:48 PM
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HighSeraph posted...
What if he issued order 66?
I mean, it might as well be the same thing.

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lilORANG
08/21/25 10:18:49 PM
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I don't think Trump is popular enough to pull something like that off. Usually people are complacent to creeping fascism when life is going pretty ok otherwise, ie the economy is growing and stable and what asshole is in power doesn't really affect the day to day.

Trump's economy is still shit and egg prices are still high. He didn't deliver on his day 1 fixes.

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bfslick50
08/21/25 10:22:14 PM
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lilORANG posted...
I don't think Trump is popular enough to pull something like that off. Usually people are complacent to creeping fascism when life is going pretty ok otherwise, ie the economy is growing and stable and what asshole is in power doesn't really affect the day to day.

Trump's economy is still shit and egg prices are still high. He didn't deliver on his day 1 fixes.

Theyre not going to say theyre ending elections. Just a temporary delay until he feels elections are secure. Then people will debate what kind of evidence he has, getting lost in the weeds while he steam rolls democracy

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WingsOfGood
08/21/25 10:23:57 PM
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lilORANG posted...
I don't think Trump is popular enough to pull something like that off. Usually people are complacent to creeping fascism when life is going pretty ok otherwise, ie the economy is growing and stable and what asshole is in power doesn't really affect the day to day.

Trump's economy is still shit and egg prices are still high. He didn't deliver on his day 1 fixes.

He can pull it off because if the republican congress doesn't support it then democrats win and that is their worst outcome

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Strider102
08/21/25 10:24:58 PM
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Who's gonna stop him, exactly?

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KnightofShikari
08/21/25 10:35:11 PM
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lilORANG posted...
I don't think Trump is popular enough to pull something like that off. Usually people are complacent to creeping fascism when life is going pretty ok otherwise, ie the economy is growing and stable and what asshole is in power doesn't really affect the day to day.

Trump's economy is still shit and egg prices are still high. He didn't deliver on his day 1 fixes.
yes but maga doesn't live in reality, as seen by people being hurt by his policies yet still supporting him

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MarshMellow
08/21/25 10:38:00 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
It's a civil war situation.

Who would be on the opposing side? The military is full of magas, and maga civilians are gun nuts with personal arsenals.

The latter especially is no exaggeration. I know a lot of them and they all have a ton of guns.
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Smashingpmkns
08/21/25 10:43:18 PM
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Genuinely think this would end up in a "good guy with a gun" type situation

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ssjevot
08/21/25 10:44:18 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
It's a civil war situation.

The vast, vast majority of authoritarian regimes do not cause civil wars to occur when they seize power. And I don't think one would in the US.

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Zikten
08/21/25 10:45:41 PM
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I don't know what congress would do but MAGA would cheer and find a way to rationalize that somehow this is protecting democracy.
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Zikten
08/21/25 10:48:20 PM
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MarshMellow posted...
Who would be on the opposing side? The military is full of magas, and maga civilians are gun nuts with personal arsenals.

The latter especially is no exaggeration. I know a lot of them and they all have a ton of guns.
Some of the top generals supposedly hate Trump. It's mainly the lower ranks that love him. It would depend on who manages to take control of the majority of command and maybe there would be different factions within the military
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WingsOfGood
08/21/25 10:48:38 PM
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Zikten posted...
I don't know what congress would do but MAGA would cheer and find a way to rationalize that somehow this is protecting democracy.

yeah have to protect the election from all the horrible terrible rampant fraud!
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MarshMellow
08/21/25 10:49:36 PM
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Zikten posted...
Some of the top generals supposedly hate Trump. It's mainly the lower ranks that love him. It would depend on who manages to take control of the majority of command and maybe there would be different factions within the military

I thought he got rid of most of the generals who aren't team maga. He's been steadily purging the federal government/military of anyone who may oppose him.
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ssjevot
08/21/25 10:50:06 PM
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Zikten posted...
Some of the top generals supposedly hate Trump. It's mainly the lower ranks that love him. It would depend on who manages to take control of the majority of command and maybe there would be different factions within the military

He has literally been firing and replacing generals. There will be no one left in the upper portions of the military who isn't loyal to him by the time something like this happens.

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2001mark
08/21/25 11:08:59 PM
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Can't have ppl start Biden's civil war in 2029.
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