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jefffan
08/20/25 3:46:11 PM
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GoFundMe Launched After Disabled Black Vet Shot In Broad Daylight https://share.google/lGG86mhLnIoBWAFvT

Black disabled veteran says hes blessed to be alive after being shot in the chest in broad daylight on Seattles waterfront last month. Powell was well known in the area for playing music along the boardwalk. Now, his family is asking the community for support.

According to reports, 32-year-old Gregory Timm walked up to Harold Powell, 68, and accused the Navy vet of stolen valor, claiming Powell never served in the military. Powell denied the claims, offering to show Timm his military ID. Video of the attack shows Timm ripping a military patch off Powells wheelchair. Feeling threatened, Powell then wheels toward Timm and reaches inside his shirt, according to KIRO 7. Timm then steps back, retrieves a handgun from a bag, and shoots Powell in the chest, leaving witnesses shocked.

Timm was detained and arrested at the scene and Powell was taken to Harborview Medical Center, where he miraculously recovered. The bullet cracked his ribs, but did not strike any vital organs.

[Doctors] didnt believe it, after all these X-rays, that I can live after being shot like that, said Powell.

Video of the horrific attack has since gone viral on social media. Civil rights attorney Ben Crump tweeted about the shooting, demanding justice for Powell.

Thankfully, Powell survived. The violence against this Navy veteran demands accountability, he wrote on X.

Powell says hes not going to give Timm much thought and instead, hes focused on his family.

I refuse to complain, and Im not going to let this guy, nothing about this guy, live in my mind rent-free, he told KFVS.

Although Powells spirits are high, he has a rough road to recovery. His family has set up a GoFundMe to support Powell during his trying times.

Our dad has always been the protector for his country, for his family, and for his community. Hes one of those people who gives what little he has to help others. Hes a fighter, but this time, he needs all of us to fight for him, the Powell family wrote.

Video here: X https://share.google/lFR2yvVxIirPp8vZe

As of right now he's only charged with first degree assault. Also, was charged in Florida with ramming a Trump polling place, so clearly the guys a nutjob

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monkmith
08/20/25 3:50:53 PM
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he's going to claim he was just standing his ground. i'm not sure how that makes sense when you're the one who starts the confrontation and then escalates it to physical violence, but that's going to be his claim.

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Metal_Gear_Raxis
08/20/25 3:52:38 PM
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People like that piece of trash, Timm, make me reconsider my dislike of the death penalty.

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Doe
08/20/25 3:54:19 PM
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monkmith posted...
he's going to claim he was just standing his ground. i'm not sure how that makes sense when you're the one who starts the confrontation and then escalates it to physical violence, but that's going to be his claim.
Edit: Google just lies to you now lol

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DipDipDiver
08/20/25 3:55:02 PM
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He was very lucky to survive that. Wtf is wrong with people

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monkmith
08/20/25 3:56:38 PM
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Doe posted...
Washington state is not a stand your ground state
huh, for some reason i though it was florida, maybe because honestly it sounds like a florida thing...

oh, its because of the bit at the end about his actions in florida.

quick lookup suggests though that they have a "no duty to retreat" rule, which plays very similar to a stand your ground law.

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Doe
08/20/25 3:58:25 PM
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monkmith posted...
huh, for some reason i though it was florida, maybe because honestly it sounds like a florida thing...

oh, its because of the bit at the end about his actions in florida.

quick lookup suggests though that they have a "no duty to retreat" rule, which plays very similar to a stand your ground law.
Yeah I asked google if it was a stand your ground state and didn't realize it gave me an AI overview that just said something factually wrong

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CRON
08/20/25 3:59:24 PM
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Stolen valor content is enraging and I can only think of a few examples I've seen where the most pathetic, obnoxious person in these videos isn't the guy doing the accusing. Whenever I see content like that I never get the impression that they're proud patriots trying to defend the dignity of servicemen.

Our dumb culture of military worship is largely responsible for this and when you look at it objectively it gets even dumber.

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Hospy
08/20/25 3:59:30 PM
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Doe posted...
Washington state is not a stand your ground state
Eh, we don't have a explicitly written stand your ground law... but we also don't have a duty to retreat law though so really you're allowed any "reasonable" self defense.
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Umbreon
08/20/25 4:01:39 PM
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jefffan posted...
As of right now he's only charged with first degree assault.

Please tell me this is just a step towards his inevitable attmpted murder charge, because holy shit if this ends at mere ""assault"".

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monkmith
08/20/25 4:05:06 PM
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Doe posted...
Yeah I asked google if it was a stand your ground state and didn't realize it gave me an AI overview that just said something factually wrong
yeah i've gotten in the habit of just skipping the ai slop, wish i could just turn it off.

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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC
08/20/25 4:16:28 PM
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monkmith posted...
he's going to claim he was just standing his ground. i'm not sure how that makes sense when you're the one who starts the confrontation and then escalates it to physical violence, but that's going to be his claim.
Washington's not an SYG state, and generally, you don't get to claim self-defense if you're the initial aggressor.

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monkmith
08/20/25 4:27:40 PM
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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC posted...
Washington's not an SYG state, and generally, you don't get to claim self-defense if you're the initial aggressor.
https://govt.westlaw.com/wcrji/Document/Ief9fe97ce10d11
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no duty to retreat is functionally the same as a stand your ground law. and a lawyer will argue that while the verbal confrontation was started by the asshole he then walked away and the victim started approaching, so they'd argue that there's two separate events essentially.

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Metal_Gear_Raxis
08/20/25 4:27:45 PM
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Umbreon posted...
Please tell me this is just a step towards his inevitable attmpted murder charge, because holy shit if this ends at mere ""assault"".
Even 3rd degree attempted would probably be a hard sell. I think attempted manslaughter is as high as we could hope for.

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Doe
08/20/25 4:31:07 PM
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monkmith posted...
https://govt.westlaw.com/wcrji/Document/Ief9fe97ce10d11
daade1ae871d9b2cbe?transitionType=Default&contextData=%28sc.Default%29

no duty to retreat is functionally the same as a stand your ground law. and a lawyer will argue that while the verbal confrontation was started by the asshole he then walked away and the victim started approaching, so they'd argue that there's two separate events essentially.
The shooter assaulted the victim by taking a patch off his wheelchair so I think it'd be hard to convince the court it was different events. I think he'd need to ask for a judge trial instead of a jury at least

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monkmith
08/20/25 4:35:56 PM
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Doe posted...
The shooter assaulted the victim by taking a patch off his wheelchair so I think it'd be hard to convince the court it was different events. I think he'd need to ask for a judge trial instead of a jury at least
eh, depends really. remember that asshole who shot a man in a movie theatre because he had popcorn thrown at him? jury sided with him.

you've got to keep in mind that being on a jury means you see a fraction of the actual evidence and hear only curated portions of the story and events. a good defense lawyer can spin truly stupid events into an argument that confuses the jury enough to make them rule in their favor.

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DiScOrDtHeLuNaTiC
08/21/25 3:52:08 PM
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monkmith posted...
eh, depends really. remember that asshole who shot a man in a movie theatre because he had popcorn thrown at him? jury sided with him.

you've got to keep in mind that being on a jury means you see a fraction of the actual evidence and hear only curated portions of the story and events. a good defense lawyer can spin truly stupid events into an argument that confuses the jury enough to make them rule in their favor.
That actually was in Florida, though.

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ROBBAN
08/21/25 4:00:06 PM
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Doe posted...
The shooter assaulted the victim by taking a patch off his wheelchair so I think it'd be hard to convince the court it was different events.

theoretically, sure
but the victim was black, so they'll probably count him existing as being the first threat that started it

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GeraldDarko
08/21/25 5:05:28 PM
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Umbreon posted...
Please tell me this is just a step towards his inevitable attmpted murder charge, because holy shit if this ends at mere ""assault"".
https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9A.36.011

Assault in the first degree.
(1) A person is guilty of assault in the first degree if he or she, with intent to inflict great bodily harm:
(a) Assaults another with a firearm or any deadly weapon or by any force or means likely to produce great bodily harm or death; or
(b) Transmits HIV to a child or vulnerable adult; or
(c) Administers, exposes, or transmits to or causes to be taken by another, poison or any other destructive or noxious substance; or
(d) Assaults another and inflicts great bodily harm.
(2) Assault in the first degree is a class A felony.

Washington doesn't appear to have an attempted murder charge.


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MarshMellow
08/23/25 1:06:38 AM
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I thought shooting anyone above the waist was attempted murder.
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StarSpangled
08/23/25 10:24:34 PM
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Some people are just pure psychotic

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mercurydude
08/23/25 10:37:05 PM
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To the MAGA klanners, all Black vets are "stolen valor" because the racists believe their service doesn't count. It's why Trump tries to erase Black History.

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Humble_Novice
08/23/25 10:44:42 PM
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This is the shooter.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6f202fe6.jpg
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Ultima_Fury
08/23/25 10:51:35 PM
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I bet the shooter was mad because the guy was an actual veteran and he probably washed-out of basic training or got rejected entirely.
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KogaSteelfang
08/23/25 10:58:01 PM
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Shooter is a coward. I guess he couldn't accept that a person with dark skin is 10x the man he is. The erasure of our history, and trying to make our heroes into villains is pure evil. I could not care less what color their is, if they fought to protect their country and in turn, protected me and my family, I'll respect them.

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StopBeinMad
08/26/25 2:01:15 PM
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Insanity
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Maze_
08/26/25 2:03:14 PM
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Humble_Novice posted...
This is the shooter.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/6f202fe6.jpg
Of course

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