Current Events > my undertale playthru topic ''spoilers''

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so i started now so don't post things i didn't get to it. tho i did get spolied on the finale and true ending i still am fuzzing with the detail and story so looking forward to clearing this game at last
gikos posted...

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lol i though my game froze for a sec. so we dived into it right off the bat huh. oh look a nice flowey who is helping me
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man i would've loved not being spoiled on this game but even so this was pretty creepy so here we go i guess
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this was annoying for me and i am not good with bullet hell so hope i don't die a lot in the finale

from my other topic and now we just killed toriel and i felt bad about it. and we meet sans and boy was the scene before it was revealed it was him was tense

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heh
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no wonder sans is well liked. i too love being lazy my dude
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what a cute guard dog
anyway i am stuck at the boss battle with papyrus in non killing run and the gameplay is hard for me cuz i suck at this type of game

nevermind i finally beat him
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but i dread the later fights if this opener was hard for me.
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if only i could do that sans i too would love to take long ass breaks too

How have you been dealing with random encounters?

Letsago posted...

How have you been dealing with random encounters?

running away from every fight so far. tho it was annoying how many times it happens so far

and done beat flowey in normal ending and boy was this game tough for me who sucks hard at bullet hell games.........not looking forward to genocide route fight with san at all
so my impression just from this so far is i see why it's well loved. the music in this game is fantastic tho i was spoiled and listened to megaloviana but most of the ost in this game were good to bangers so despite my crappy gripe with the gameplay i give this game a 8/10
now i need to try to do the pacifist route and not kill toriel this time

For pacifist make sure to do go back to Papyrus's house after his fight, and then after Undyne's fight go find her house in Waterfall. There are bonding segments with both characters you gotta do. Papyrus iirc should basically explain this to your face or call you but it trips some people up

There's also a way to lock yourself out of Pacifist: If you don't give Undyne the water after she passes out. So make sure not to do that

Doe posted...

For pacifist make sure to do go back to Papyrus's house after his fight, and then after Undyne's fight go find her house in Waterfall. There are bonding segments with both characters you gotta do. Papyrus iirc should basically explain this to your face or call you but it trips some people up

i am using a guide but still thanks for the info. ''reads tips of beating the bosses that gave me hell'' how was i supposed to know not to eat the pie till the end

I may be unaware of a certain detail but the pie being a full heal should only matter in a high LV run. I think most late game items take care of you fine at low LV since they're flat heals, eg Glamburger heals 27 according to the wiki

On genocide it does really matter to grab it and whether to use it midway or try to save it until the end

oh lol I thought you'd be golden and that you'd already spared Toriel if you were making sure not to kill any random encounters. So you do gotta do it all over again but thankfully you seem to enjoy the game enough to do the pacifist. I've seen literally dozens of players on a run with kills just quit after Omega Flowey because they're not interested in replaying the game and thus have an incomplete run since the pacifist ending is really just an extension of the neutral run anyway (even if you go full pacifist the first time you'll still fight omega flowey first, you can just immediately do the true ending after). Doing pacifist just unlocks the ability to do the true ending.
Genocide is definitely something unique though and most people tend to skip that because of the premise and occasionally the requirements. If you're able to beat that that would be very impressive indeed.

Doe posted...

I may be unaware of a certain detail but the pie being a full heal should only matter in a high LV run. I think most late game items take care of you fine at low LV since they're flat heals, eg Glamburger heals 27 according to the wiki

On genocide it does really matter to grab it and whether to use it midway or try to save it until the end

the issue for me wasn't the heal but i suck so much that bosses kept kicking my ass for hours and asgore seems to get lower def if you eat it when you fight him

GiftedACIII posted...

oh lol I thought you'd be golden and that you'd already spared Toriel if you were making sure not to kill any random encounters. So you do gotta do it all over again but thankfully you seem to enjoy the game enough to do the pacifist. I've seen literally dozens of players on a run with kills just quit after Omega Flowey because they're not interested in replaying the game and thus have an incomplete run since the pacifist ending is really just an extension of the neutral run anyway (even if you go full pacifist the first time you'll still fight omega flowey first, you can just immediately do the true ending after). Doing pacifist just unlocks the ability to do the true ending.
Genocide is definitely something unique though and most people tend to skip that because of the premise and occasionally the requirements. If you're able to beat that that would be very impressive indeed.

i get why some are not keen on replaying it but yeah despite my grip with it i enjoyed the character and the story/music

Ok I see. There's a lot of little details like that in the game that offer additional characterization but aren't really intended for blind players to build their strategies around. They're basically in the game for you to read about some specific niche detail later on Twitter and go "wow that's crazy"

gikos posted...

i get why some are not keen on replaying it but yeah despite my grip with it i enjoyed the character and the story/music

You've still yet to see the best for all of those imo.

yeah I hope you're minimally spoiled for pacifist route because it's pretty cool & has a creative idea IMO and it has a few of Toby Fox's best compositions back to back

GiftedACIII posted...

You've still yet to see the best for all of those imo.

looking forward to it then

true ending done and man that battle with asriel was so hype and touching
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this hit me in the feels man. loved this game.....but i died so much so genocide route has to be a watch on youtube cuz there is no way i am beating sans with my crappy skills

Yay, glad you enjoyed it. I'd say at least give geno a try cuz the atmosphere of the tough fights can really help keep you going, but it is time consuming just to get there, and I understand if you don't wanna waste all that time for a couple of fights that you don't think you'll enjoy.

So like. Deltarune?

I really like the reprise version of "Fallen Down" when everyone meets up at the barrier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG5ZjezxIck

And of course, Hopes and Dreams

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Hambo posted...

So like. Deltarune?

i didn't get that game yet cuz i want to clear my older games from my backlog first but is the combat like undertale a bullet hell too? if so then that is more reason for me to put it off for a while longer
after i watch genocide route my next game to play is secrets of evermore on SNES i never beat that game and i stopped on the second timeline from my memory of it

I want to say Deltarune is easier than Undertale but I don't want to jinx you. But yes, it's a bullet dodging game. You have two other party members to help you manage healing and actions.

Doe posted...

I want to say Deltarune is easier than Undertale but I don't want to jinx you. But yes, it's a bullet dodging game. You have two other party members to help you manage healing and actions.

oh well i will grit thru it when i get it next year
p.s i laughed and felt bad for asgore till i remembered he killed six children and had alphys do mad science stuff with monsters so he deserves it

Asgore had a hard life

That Alphys stuff was kinda on her, his biggest sin there was not giving her more oversight/direction

Did you meet anybody who told you about the previous royal scientist?

Doe posted...

Did you meet anybody who told you about the previous royal scientist?

gaster right. i didn't dig too deep for the lore scenes and just speedthru the game so i need to read up on the lore of the game as i watch geno route
from what i understood the character i named was the frist human and he died cuz of some plan he made with asriel

Yeah I'd also say Deltarune is probably a little easier for the most part. Your mileage may vary depending on on what fights you do and what clicks with you of course, but that's my impression.

But it's also SO charming, just like UT. The story isn't even complete yet, but there are already several arcs that tug on your heartstrings with more great tunes to match.

But it's not a bad idea to take a break between the games. Enjoy a palate cleanser, let the emotional dust settle, and some day when you're feeling nostalgic for UT, fire up Deltarune for a new adventure.

gikos posted...

gaster right. i didn't dig too deep for the lore scenes and just speedthru the game so i need to read up on the lore of the game as i watch geno route
from what i understood the character i named was the frist human and he died cuz of some plan he made with asriel

Yeah you pretty much got it. If you write "Chara" into the name field the game responds with "The true name", so consequently a lot of people refer to the original fallen human who was sibling to Asriel as Chara.

An Easter egg: if you walk all the way back to the starting area of the game during the epilogue free roam, Asriel is there and will describe a little more about the fallen human. It's also speculated this flower patch at the start of the game is where Chara was buried.

https://youtu.be/e0dlm_p1ZxA

Doe posted...

Yeah you pretty much got it. If you write "Chara" into the name field the game responds with "The true name", so consequently a lot of people refer to the original fallen human who was sibling to Asriel as Chara.

An Easter egg: if you walk all the way back to the starting area of the game during the epilogue free roam, Asriel is there and will describe a little more about the fallen human. It's also speculated this flower patch at the start of the game is where Chara was buried.

https://youtu.be/e0dlm_p1ZxA

thanks for that clip. man chara must've had a crappy life if his first urge was to murder the villagers

The other way to look at it is Chara needed 6 other human souls one way or the other to destroy the barrier and free monsterkind. But yeah, they definitely hated humanity

gikos posted...

true ending done and man that battle with asriel was so hype and touching
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HA3Ks8NLS-Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tf-gVaHdag
this hit me in the feels man. loved this game.....but i died so much so genocide route has to be a watch on youtube cuz there is no way i am beating sans with my crappy skills

What'd I tell you Imagine if you had skipped the final part because you didn't want to replay the game after getting kills. The primary story of Undertale pretty much revolves around Asriel (soundtrack named Undertale plays when his backstory is told for the first time) and to basically skip all the sections with him basically means you wouldn't have even gotten to the rising action of the plot. This is why I think it's best to recommend players with a backlog or have been hesitant to play the game to do a full pacifist run first since getting to the actual climax of the story is more important than some slight dialogue changes from Sans in an "authentic blind run" imo.

If you change your mind and decide to try genocide, make sure to keep looking for random encounters. Keep grinding even if it seems like you're not getting any encounters. You'll know when you're finished.

Letsago posted...

If you change your mind and decide to try genocide, make sure to keep looking for random encounters. Keep grinding even if it seems like you're not getting any encounters. You'll know when you're finished.

ftr people have found out you actually should keep going into other rooms while grinding it out because the more you kill encounters in a room the more time it takes for encounters to appear and that's in ADDITION to the extended time after each kill, while the first one actually resets if you go into another room. This wasn't known until several years in I believe and so most early players wasted a lot of time just grinding in the first room of each area.

watched the playthru of genocide route and wow it was dark and the reveal it was chara who was in control instead of frisk was neat

There's some little interesting stuff were you to reload after. Instead of the select menu, there's just a blank void with the sound of howling wind playing. If you let it sit for a long time, eventually Chara starts speaking to you again. They deny you the ability to reset the game anymore. They offer to restore the world if you agree to trade your soul to them. This causes a full reset of the game, except the pacifist endings become permanently altered.

If you do that and then finish genocide AGAIN, then Chara says one of my favorite lines in the game: "You are wracked with a perverted sentimentality."

gikos posted...

watched the playthru of genocide route and wow it was dark and the reveal it was chara who was in control instead of frisk was neat

My favorite part of genocide is Flowey's monologue. One of the hardest hitting moments in any game for me

if i didn't suck badly at this i would've loved to play it myself but i don't want to deal with it that
anyway started with evermore

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as charming as i remember and i giggled when i saw his hair bobs around which i forgot about it
Letsago posted...

My favorite part of genocide is Flowey's monologue. One of the hardest hitting moments in any game for me

yeah that was rough and then him slowing feeling dread after he realized he will be killed by chara the one person he felt close and the finale where he pleads to not be killed was gut punching

Part of what makes the Genocide route so tragic is that many of the characters become better versions of themselves, which makes it all the harder to kill them. Papyrus gives up his egotistic obsession with capturing a human and tries to help you instead. Undyne realizes you're a threat to the whole world and fights to protect both humans and monsters. Alphys (I'm going to spoiler this because you might not have seen it, look up Aborted Genocide ending if you want to see for yourself) helps the survivors evacuate even if it means revealing the truth of what happened in the True Lab. Sans despite his nihilistic outlook finally manages to motivate himself enough to fight. And Flowey reunites with the one person that he feels something for. In order to progress, you not only need to kill them, you have to cut them down at their best.

Letsago posted...

Part of what makes the Genocide route so tragic is that many of the characters become better versions of themselves, which makes it all the harder to kill them. Papyrus gives up his egotistic obsession with capturing a human and tries to help you instead. Undyne realizes you're a threat to the whole world and fights to protect both humans and monsters. Alphys (I'm going to spoiler this because you might not have seen it, look up Aborted Genocide ending if you want to see for yourself) helps the survivors evacuate even if it means revealing the truth of what happened in the True Lab. Sans despite his nihilistic outlook finally manages to motivate himself enough to fight. And Flowey reunites with the one person that he feels something for. In order to progress, you not only need to kill them, you have to cut them down at their best.

sans revealing he knows we have been looping was cool and i get why he was nihilistic once he realized there is a being toying with them
and didn't know that about alphy
genocide route to me hit me just as the evil route in soul nomad and what happens to some of the characters in that route