Current Events > Do you (still) believe that only a White man has a chance of winning in 2028?

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Solar_Crimson
07/16/25 8:28:49 AM
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I recall people were saying this after Harris lost, and that the Dems couldn't afford to run anyone but a White man to win the Presidential election in 2028 and possibly after.

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bluezero
07/16/25 8:29:51 AM
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Sadly, yes

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GhostFaceLeaks
07/16/25 8:30:35 AM
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If we have elections again, the losses of Hilary and Harris to Trump basically put female politicians back hundreds of years.

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Ivynn
07/16/25 8:31:46 AM
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GhostFaceLeaks posted...
If we have elections again, the losses of Hilary and Harris to Trump basically put female politicians back hundreds of years.

Honestly, the first female president is probably gonna be a Republican.

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SgtBash
07/16/25 8:33:34 AM
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America just isn't ready for a female leader

The Democrats need someone younger to take over and be the face of the blue brand.

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RasterGraphic
07/16/25 8:34:34 AM
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No, but it would be an uphill battle.

The propaganda machine would be in full swing. It would have to be a perfect storm, even then it would not be a landslide.

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ai123
07/16/25 8:37:54 AM
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A superb candidate, with a top notch campaign team, in ideal circumstances, might be able to pull it off.

But they'd get the same, or better, result with less effort just by running a mediocre white guy.

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Evolician
07/16/25 8:39:27 AM
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How the hell did Obama get elected

I will never understand

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Ivynn
07/16/25 8:40:17 AM
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Evolician posted...
How the hell did Obama get elected

I will never understand

The media apparatus that got Obama elected doesn't exist anymore.

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Bigpapaplut
07/16/25 8:40:22 AM
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Might not have to be white but definitely needs to be male

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Bass
07/16/25 9:25:11 AM
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I truly hate this timeline. A white man will have better odds, unfortunately.

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ssjevot
07/16/25 9:28:58 AM
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I don't give a flying fuck what race or gender whoever they run is as long as they can win. Obama won because he had charisma. You won't win just because you run some old white dude, Biden would have lost way harder than Harris did. You also don't win progressive points for running a women or minority candidate that loses. Win the election. That's it, that's the only goal.

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monkmith
07/16/25 9:30:41 AM
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at this point i'm beginning to doubt there will even be an election in 2028.

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621
07/16/25 9:34:52 AM
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yes, I do believe america is that racist

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Blue_Dream87
07/16/25 9:36:49 AM
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White or white-passing will have the greatest success. I do think a black man can win.

Any other minority? Fuck no, this country is too prejudiced.

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hmnut7
07/16/25 9:51:47 AM
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Yes. We are straight white men for the foreseeable future.

And I mean Star Trek future.

There will be a Black Female president on Mars before there is another Non-White or a Non-Male President in America.

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ai123
07/16/25 10:31:43 AM
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When will America be ready for its first openly atheist/non-religious president?

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Xenogears15
07/16/25 10:33:30 AM
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bluezero posted...
Sadly, yes


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Rantman
07/16/25 10:36:08 AM
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no. Hillary literally won the popular vote. the votes are there - they just need to be in the right fucking states.

do I think a white guy has a much easier time winning: yes

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cheat4ever
07/16/25 10:36:14 AM
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No, any male.

A woman might have a shot if the Trump backlash is big enough, but I doubt the Dem's primary will go to one.

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asdf8562
07/16/25 10:41:46 AM
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Yes.
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thekosmicfool
07/16/25 11:27:44 AM
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Yeah that's where we're at. Sucks shit but so do we as a country.

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joaquintall
07/16/25 11:48:19 AM
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2024 shouldn't have even been a contest if you guys were ready.

We are unfortunately saddled in the middle of a conservative anti-woke movement that isn't going away any time soon.

Harris would have been objectively better in every way, but small-town USA is stuck in 1950, and got a leader who decided to roll you guys back even further.

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621
07/16/25 11:51:18 AM
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joaquintall posted...
2024 shouldn't have even been a contest if you guys were ready.

We are unfortunately saddled in the middle of a conservative anti-woke movement that isn't going away any time soon.

Harris would have been objectively better in every way, but small-town USA is stuck in 1950, and got a leader who decided to roll you guys back even further.

that's what hurts. we'd sooner burn the economy down than elect a black woman who "laughs". we would've had interest rate cuts by now if not for trump's shenanigans.

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Will_VIIII
07/16/25 11:54:50 AM
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Rantman posted...
no. Hillary literally won the popular vote. the votes are there - they just need to be in the right fucking states.

This. 3 million more people preferred her over Trump. The EC and disproportionate power the Senate gives Red states is the issue here


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Sir_Will
07/16/25 11:58:45 AM
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Evolician posted...
How the hell did Obama get elected

I will never understand
It is surprising. 2008 was a different time. And he was a very strong speaker.

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Will_VIIII
07/16/25 12:04:28 PM
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McCain was also a racist war hawk, back when both of those things would tank political aspirations

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Hospy
07/16/25 12:56:57 PM
#29:


No
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eggcorn
07/16/25 1:00:19 PM
#30:


I voted for Harris, so no.

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Starks
07/16/25 1:04:22 PM
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It's Harris' nomination to lose in 2028. Everyone else has even more baggage or will be the recipient of even more bigotry.

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ablegator
07/16/25 1:09:32 PM
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Yes. Expect ice to be deployed to blue voting locations in swing states going forward to protect elections inn the name of election integrity.

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emblem-man
07/16/25 1:12:35 PM
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No

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Evening_Dragon
07/16/25 1:15:17 PM
#34:


Evolician posted...
How the hell did Obama get elected

I will never understand

Internet wasn't as perverse as it is now, there was still a semblance of optimism.

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SecretBase
07/16/25 1:18:09 PM
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I have never believed only a white man could win.

Hillary lost because she sucked and Harris lost because she had relatively little time to campaign and establish an identity.

If you had Michelle Obama or Oprah running they'd easily clear an election.

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Starks
07/16/25 1:26:01 PM
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Having to win back the blue wall for 2028 and then repeat that plus Georgia, North Carolina, or Arizona for 2032 is such an insanely heavy lift.

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lilORANG
07/16/25 1:26:24 PM
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Yeah, unfortunately. Consider, Trump is singularly the least qualified person to ever run for president. Not only because he has no knowledge of or training in American government or civics but because he's bereft of all morals.

And he beat the 2 very qualified gals that Dems threw at him.

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MotaroRIP619
07/16/25 1:27:39 PM
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No, but I think they have better odds
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SecretBase
07/16/25 1:30:10 PM
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lilORANG posted...
And he beat the 2 very qualified gals that Dems threw at him.

It doesn't matter how long you've had a job if people think you suck at it.

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Metal_Gear_Raxis
07/16/25 1:33:39 PM
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lilORANG posted...
Yeah, unfortunately. Consider, Trump is singularly the least qualified person to ever run for president. Not only because he has no knowledge of or training in American government or civics but because he's bereft of all morals.
In this political climate, that's unfortunately seen as a bonus by some.

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LoZguy709
07/16/25 1:34:38 PM
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The 2016 election results proved that this didn't have to be the case. But unfortunately, Democrats are no longer in a position to be aspirational due to the failure of so many to actually and overtly support the non-male nominee when it really mattered.
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SecretBase
07/16/25 1:45:13 PM
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LoZguy709 posted...
The 2016 election results proved that this didn't have to be the case. But unfortunately, Democrats are no longer in a position to be aspirational due to the failure of so many to actually and overtly support the non-male nominee when it really mattered.

That is entirely Democrats for wasting their female nomination on one of the shittiest politcians alive.

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Starks
07/16/25 1:47:31 PM
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I'm not convinced that Newsom or Buttigieg can beat Vance.

Beshear or Walz might.

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Heineken14
07/16/25 1:47:49 PM
#45:


bluezero posted...
Sadly, yes


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LoZguy709
07/16/25 1:48:40 PM
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SecretBase posted...
That is entirely Democrats for wasting their female nomination on one of the shittiest politcians alive.

You really think Harris is that bad?
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SecretBase
07/16/25 2:16:27 PM
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LoZguy709 posted...


You really think Harris is that bad?

You mentioned 2016, I'm referring to Hillary.

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LoZguy709
07/16/25 2:17:13 PM
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SecretBase posted...
You mentioned 2016, I'm referring to Hillary.

Oh, the one that actually came closer to winning?
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Sansoldier
07/16/25 2:18:07 PM
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Of course not, it's just that they'll be disadvantaged by like 0.5% or something else small, but noticeable. They'll be able to win easily if they're able to galvanize those who usually wouldn't vote.

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Heineken14
07/16/25 2:25:08 PM
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Starks posted...
I'm not convinced that Newsom or Buttigieg can beat Vance.

Beshear or Walz might.

Sadly like the white male part, I think Buttigieg would lose due to being the not straight part.

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