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Scardude 07/09/25 10:24:43 AM #1:	https://apnews.com/article/ftc-click-to-cancel-30db2be07fdcb8aefd0d4835abdb116a Court system strikes again. No consumer protection. --- Above all things, never be afraid. The enemy who forces you to retreat is himself afraid of you at that very moment. <cite>Scardude posted [p:985712844] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>https://apnews.com/article/ftc-click-to-cancel-30db2be07fdcb8aefd0d4835abdb116aCourt system strikes again. No consumer protection. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
s0nicfan 07/09/25 10:27:27 AM #2:	The FTC rule was set to go into effect on Monday, but the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit said this week that the FTC made a procedural error by failing to come up with a preliminary regulatory analysis, which is required for rules whose annual impact on the U.S. economy is more than $100 million. A roadblock, but luckily nothing as extreme as claiming that the rule violates Free Speech or something. They just want the FTC to jump through another hoop first. It does say something, though, that simply making it as easy to cancel a free trial as it is to start one is being estimated at potentially causing more than 100 million in lost revenue. --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz <cite>s0nicfan posted [p:985712870] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote><quote>The FTC rule was set to go into effect on Monday, but the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit said this week that the FTC made a procedural error by failing to come up with a preliminary regulatory analysis, which is required for rules whose annual impact on the U.S. economy is more than $100 million.</quote>A roadblock, but luckily nothing as extreme as claiming that the rule violates Free Speech or something. They just want the FTC to jump through another hoop first.It does say something, though, that simply making it as easy to cancel a free trial as it is to start one is being estimated at potentially causing more than 100 million in lost revenue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 07/09/25 10:27:28 AM #3:	This impacts the whole nation and not just the 8th circuit? --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:985712871] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>This impacts the whole nation and not just the 8th circuit? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 07/09/25 10:30:01 AM #4:	I'll just stop paying --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:985712896] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>I'll just stop paying</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnsteadyOwl 07/09/25 10:42:21 AM #5:	Yeah, various major companies sued as soon as this rule was announced. It would be really good for consumers so I should have figured the courts wouldn't allow it to happen. --- "It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." <cite>UnsteadyOwl posted [p:985712972] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, various major companies sued as soon as this rule was announced. It would be really good for consumers so I should have figured the courts wouldn't allow it to happen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 07/09/25 10:48:22 AM #6:	dont worry guys i'm sure the supreme court will side for the people! we've only got two rapists and a guy who ruled against a man who abandoned his truck instead of freezing to death on the bench! A_Good_Boy posted... This impacts the whole nation and not just the 8th circuit? its a federal rule, when a circuit court blocks it then it is blocked at the federal level. so yeah it effects the whole country. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:985713021] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>dont worry guys i'm sure the supreme court will side for the people! we've only got two rapists and a guy who ruled against a man who abandoned his truck instead of freezing to death on the bench!A_Good_Boy posted... </cite><quote>This impacts the whole nation and not just the 8th circuit?</quote>its a federal rule, when a circuit court blocks it then it is blocked at the federal level. so yeah it effects the whole country.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HighSeraph 07/09/25 10:49:16 AM #7:	Of course, nothing good ever happens. --- There are wounds that never show on the body that are deeper and more hurtful than anything that bleeds. <cite>HighSeraph posted [p:985713028] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>Of course, nothing good ever happens.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McmadnessV3 07/09/25 10:49:54 AM #8:	The legal system, making the world profitable for corporations and the rich everywhere. --- Thank you for taking the time to read this sig. This sig loves you. <cite>McmadnessV3 posted [p:985713035] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>The legal system, making the world profitable for corporations and the rich everywhere.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
621 07/09/25 10:57:59 AM #9:	I just love how we keep encouraging big corpos to be lazy instead of actually fight for our money --- Allmind exists for all mercenaries. <cite>621 posted [p:985713103] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>I just love how we keep encouraging big corpos to be lazy instead of actually fight for our money</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Strider102 07/09/25 10:58:19 AM #10:	Are we winning yet? --- "I dreamt I was a moron." <cite>Strider102 posted [p:985713108] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>Are we winning yet?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 07/09/25 10:59:57 AM #11:	621 posted... I just love how we keep encouraging big corpos to be lazy instead of actually fight for our money they are fighting for our money, by bribing politicians. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:985713122] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>621 posted... </cite><quote>I just love how we keep encouraging big corpos to be lazy instead of actually fight for our money</quote>they are fighting for our money, by bribing politicians.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
621 07/09/25 11:00:41 AM #12:	monkmith posted... they are fighting for our money, by bribing politicians. that's not really a fight, considering how easy they are to bribe --- Allmind exists for all mercenaries. <cite>621 posted [p:985713128] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite><quote>they are fighting for our money, by bribing politicians.</quote>that's not really a fight, considering how easy they are to bribe </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 07/09/25 11:03:27 AM #13:	The court spells out that they support click to cancel but the FCC fucked up in how they did it. --- A Rod from God for the Gingarou! Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:985713150] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>The court spells out that they support click to cancel but the FCC fucked up in how they did it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
loafy013 07/09/25 11:05:09 AM #14:	Wait, I thought a single local court couldn't make rulings on a federal level? Or this yet another thing that only counts if it negatively affects the TACO don. --- The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's fact. Everything else, is theory. <cite>loafy013 posted [p:985713166] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>Wait, I thought a single local court couldn't make rulings on a federal level? Or this yet another thing that only counts if it negatively affects the TACO don.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Starks 07/09/25 11:12:31 AM #15:	It's a circuit court, not local at all. This could be enforced across basically the entire plains. --- A Rod from God for the Gingarou! Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) <cite>Starks posted [p:985713235] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>It's a circuit court, not local at all.This could be enforced across basically the entire plains.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 07/09/25 11:13:21 AM #16:	loafy013 posted... Wait, I thought a single local court couldn't make rulings on a federal level? Or this yet another thing that only counts if it negatively affects the TACO don. its not a local court, its a federal court. the federal appeals courts are distributed across the country in districts called circuits. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:985713249] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>loafy013 posted... </cite><quote>Wait, I thought a single local court couldn't make rulings on a federal level? Or this yet another thing that only counts if it negatively affects the TACO don.</quote>its not a local court, its a federal court. the federal appeals courts are distributed across the country in districts called circuits.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 07/09/25 11:13:31 AM #17:	Wow. People really dont want the rich billionaires to have their third summer yacht while they can't afford groceries. Selfish tbh. --- Undercover cat lover <cite>Funkydog posted [p:985713250] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>Wow. People really dont want the rich billionaires to have their third summer yacht while they can't afford groceries.Selfish tbh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 07/09/25 11:15:30 AM #18:	s0nicfan posted... A roadblock, but luckily nothing as extreme as claiming that the rule violates Free Speech or something. They just want the FTC to jump through another hoop first. Which everyone knows has zero chances of happening with who's now in charge, so this idea is legitimately just gone now --- https://i.imgur.com/bbRWLI8.gif https://i.imgur.com/A0BErSV.jpg https://i.imgur.com/S1m3po4.jpg https://i.imgur.com/7fCcfko.jpg <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:985713260] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>A roadblock, but luckily nothing as extreme as claiming that the rule violates Free Speech or something. They just want the FTC to jump through another hoop first.</quote>Which everyone knows has zero chances of happening with who's now in charge, so this idea is legitimately just gone now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SaikyoStyle 07/09/25 11:16:45 AM #19:	621 posted... I just love how we keep encouraging big corpos to be lazy instead of actually fight for our money Post-capitalism baby. --- Taxes, death, and trouble. Vetinari 2028. Make Ankh-Morpork Great Again! <cite>SaikyoStyle posted [p:985713280] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>621 posted... </cite><quote>I just love how we keep encouraging big corpos to be lazy instead of actually fight for our money</quote>Post-capitalism baby.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jefffan 07/09/25 11:19:54 AM #20:	McmadnessV3 posted... The legal system, making the world profitable for corporations and the rich everywhere. Speed running to Cyberpunk --- Ernest Morgan: November 15, 1956-September 28, 2010: Best dad in the world. <cite>jefffan posted [p:985713303] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>McmadnessV3 posted... </cite><quote>The legal system, making the world profitable for corporations and the rich everywhere.</quote>Speed running to Cyberpunk </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bfslick50 07/09/25 11:20:21 AM #21:	monkmith posted... its not a local court, its a federal court. the federal appeals courts are distributed across the country in districts called circuits. The Supreme Court just ruled those courts can't make broad national rule cancellations when it comes to immigration issues. --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:985713305] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite><quote>its not a local court, its a federal court. the federal appeals courts are distributed across the country in districts called circuits.</quote>The Supreme Court just ruled those courts can't make broad national rule cancellations when it comes to immigration issues.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 07/09/25 11:21:43 AM #22:	Just initiate chargebacks and make the business pay the price for making it difficult to cancel <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:985713320] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>Just initiate chargebacks and make the business pay the price for making it difficult to cancel </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Metal_Gear_Raxis 07/09/25 11:22:41 AM #23:	What was this one about? --- Time is a funny thing, you know? I guess in the big picture of my life, you were only a blip. But oftentimes, those "blips" make the biggest impacts. <cite>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted [p:985713335] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>What was this one about?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
McmadnessV3 07/09/25 11:24:27 AM #24:	jefffan posted... Speed running to Cyberpunk We already there. Just without the nifty technology. --- Thank you for taking the time to read this sig. This sig loves you. <cite>McmadnessV3 posted [p:985713355] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>jefffan posted... </cite><quote>Speed running to Cyberpunk</quote>We already there. Just without the nifty technology.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnsteadyOwl 07/09/25 11:33:44 AM #25:	Metal_Gear_Raxis posted... What was this one about? This is an FTC rule to make it so that companies cannot make cancelling a subscription more difficult than signing up for it. It would also make it so all charges including any recurring billing have to be disclosed to the consumer when they're signing up, and companies have to be able to show they got the consumer's consent for those charges. --- "It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." <cite>UnsteadyOwl posted [p:985713440] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>Metal_Gear_Raxis posted... </cite><quote>What was this one about?</quote>This is an FTC rule to make it so that companies cannot make cancelling a subscription more difficult than signing up for it. It would also make it so all charges including any recurring billing have to be disclosed to the consumer when they're signing up, and companies have to be able to show they got the consumer's consent for those charges.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ItsChristian 07/09/25 11:36:15 AM #26:	Is American great again yet? <cite>ItsChristian posted [p:985713463] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>Is American great again yet?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 07/09/25 11:49:10 AM #27:	bfslick50 posted... The Supreme Court just ruled those courts can't make broad national rule cancellations when it comes to immigration issues. which is a narrow ruling and doesn't effect anything but immigration issues. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:985713602] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>bfslick50 posted... </cite><quote>The Supreme Court just ruled those courts can't make broad national rule cancellations when it comes to immigration issues.</quote>which is a narrow ruling and doesn't effect anything but immigration issues.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scardude 07/09/25 12:43:50 PM #28:	ItsChristian posted... Is American great again yet? For the rich? The greatest --- Above all things, never be afraid. The enemy who forces you to retreat is himself afraid of you at that very moment. <cite>Scardude posted [p:985714160] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>ItsChristian posted... </cite><quote>Is American great again yet?</quote>For the rich? The greatest</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir_Will 07/09/25 12:56:14 PM #29:	monkmith posted... its a federal rule, when a circuit court blocks it then it is blocked at the federal level. so yeah it effects the whole country. Last I checked your constitution affects the whole country too. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir_Will posted [p:985714276] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite><quote>its a federal rule, when a circuit court blocks it then it is blocked at the federal level. so yeah it effects the whole country.</quote>Last I checked your constitution affects the whole country too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 07/09/25 1:04:26 PM #30:	Sir_Will posted... Last I checked your constitution affects the whole country too. constitution is a 300 year old document written on animal skin that predates modern society. everything taken from that now is a vague interpretation based off of ass pull beliefs in what a bunch of rich asshole slaveowners would have believed. but yes the constitution allowed for the establishment of the circuit court system. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:985714329] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>Sir_Will posted... </cite><quote>Last I checked your constitution affects the whole country too.</quote>constitution is a 300 year old document written on animal skin that predates modern society. everything taken from that now is a vague interpretation based off of ass pull beliefs in what a bunch of rich asshole slaveowners would have believed.but yes the constitution allowed for the establishment of the circuit court system.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
-ZIO- 07/09/25 1:05:25 PM #31:	Does a VPN help in gaining the right via being spoofed in a different country that provides such basic consumer rights? <cite>-ZIO- posted [p:985714342] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>Does a VPN help in gaining the right via being spoofed in a different country that provides such basic consumer rights?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 07/09/25 1:08:31 PM #32:	jefffan posted... Speed running to Cyberpunk And without the cool aesthetic or chroming up smh --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:985714375] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>jefffan posted... </cite><quote>Speed running to Cyberpunk</quote>And without the cool aesthetic or chroming up smh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NoxObscuras 07/09/25 1:25:19 PM #33:	s0nicfan posted... A roadblock, but luckily nothing as extreme as claiming that the rule violates Free Speech or something. They just want the FTC to jump through another hoop first. It does say something, though, that simply making it as easy to cancel a free trial as it is to start one is being estimated at potentially causing more than 100 million in lost revenue. Yeah I'm not surprised it's more than 100 million in revenue. It's ridiculous how many hoops we have to jump through to cancel some of this. Like LA Fitness has gotten better about it now, but for a while, the only way you could cancel your membership with them was to mail the cancellation form to their HQ. Which usually took a few weeks to take effect. You could sign up online and be charged for the membership in under a minute though. --- Steam/Xbox/PSN = NoxObscuras <cite>NoxObscuras posted [p:985714503] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>A roadblock, but luckily nothing as extreme as claiming that the rule violates Free Speech or something. They just want the FTC to jump through another hoop first.It does say something, though, that simply making it as easy to cancel a free trial as it is to start one is being estimated at potentially causing more than 100 million in lost revenue.</quote>Yeah I'm not surprised it's more than 100 million in revenue. It's ridiculous how many hoops we have to jump through to cancel some of this. Like LA Fitness has gotten better about it now, but for a while, the only way you could cancel your membership with them was to mail the cancellation form to their HQ. Which usually took a few weeks to take effect. You could sign up online and be charged for the membership in under a minute though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dat_Cracka_Jax 07/09/25 2:29:03 PM #34:	s0nicfan posted... It does say something, though, that simply making it as easy to cancel a free trial as it is to start one is being estimated at potentially causing more than 100 million in lost revenue That was my takeaway as well --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 <cite>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted [p:985715127] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>s0nicfan posted... </cite><quote>It does say something, though, that simply making it as easy to cancel a free trial as it is to start one is being estimated at potentially causing more than 100 million in lost revenue</quote>That was my takeaway as well</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hejiru 07/09/25 3:04:05 PM #35:	monkmith posted... a guy who ruled against a man who abandoned his truck instead of freezing to death Wait, what? --- The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction has to make sense. <cite>Hejiru posted [p:985715445] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite><quote>a guy who ruled against a man who abandoned his truck instead of freezing to death</quote>Wait, what?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 07/09/25 3:14:43 PM #36:	Sirius XM radio would let you sign up online in seconds but to cancel you had to call on the phone and talk to someone who would try to convince you to keep your subscription I think they temporarily changed to click to cancel because of this legal controversy but now with this ruling I bet they go back to making people call <cite>Zikten posted [p:985715559] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>Sirius XM radio would let you sign up online in seconds but to cancel you had to call on the phone and talk to someone who would try to convince you to keep your subscription I think they temporarily changed to click to cancel because of this legal controversy but now with this ruling I bet they go back to making people call</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
monkmith 07/09/25 3:19:52 PM #37:	Hejiru posted... Wait, what? https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca10/15-9504/15-9504-2016-07-15-0.html truck driver had his truck break down in a blizzard. got a ride to town and left the truck since the alternative was freezing to death in the cab. got fired for abandoning his truck in a blizzard, neil gorsuch was on a 3 judge panel that reviewed the case and was the only judge to side with the trucking company. he's the definition of corporate bootlicker. --- Taarsidath-an halsaam. Quando il gioco e finito, il re e il pedone vanno nella stessa scatola <cite>monkmith posted [p:985715625] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>Hejiru posted... </cite><quote>Wait, what?</quote>https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca10/15-9504/15-9504-2016-07-15-0.htmltruck driver had his truck break down in a blizzard. got a ride to town and left the truck since the alternative was freezing to death in the cab. got fired for abandoning his truck in a blizzard, neil gorsuch was on a 3 judge panel that reviewed the case and was the only judge to side with the trucking company.he's the definition of corporate bootlicker.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bfslick50 07/09/25 3:26:54 PM #38:	monkmith posted... which is a narrow ruling and doesn't effect anything but immigration issues. Right, because we only hold back on court power when it gets in the leaders way --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama <cite>bfslick50 posted [p:985715708] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite><quote>which is a narrow ruling and doesn't effect anything but immigration issues.</quote>Right, because we only hold back on court power when it gets in the leaders way</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hejiru 07/09/25 3:36:22 PM #39:	monkmith posted... https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca10/15-9504/15-9504-2016-07-15-0.html truck driver had his truck break down in a blizzard. got a ride to town and left the truck since the alternative was freezing to death in the cab. got fired for abandoning his truck in a blizzard, neil gorsuch was on a 3 judge panel that reviewed the case and was the only judge to side with the trucking company. he's the definition of corporate bootlicker. Jfc --- The difference between fiction and reality is that fiction has to make sense. <cite>Hejiru posted [p:985715787] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>monkmith posted... </cite><quote>https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca10/15-9504/15-9504-2016-07-15-0.htmltruck driver had his truck break down in a blizzard. got a ride to town and left the truck since the alternative was freezing to death in the cab. got fired for abandoning his truck in a blizzard, neil gorsuch was on a 3 judge panel that reviewed the case and was the only judge to side with the trucking company.he's the definition of corporate bootlicker.</quote>Jfc</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scardude 07/11/25 10:03:07 AM #40:	bfslick50 posted... Right, because we only hold back on court power when it gets in the leaders way That's how kings are --- Above all things, never be afraid. The enemy who forces you to retreat is himself afraid of you at that very moment. <cite>Scardude posted [p:985733650] in US courts ... [t:81010671]...</cite> <quote>bfslick50 posted... </cite><quote>Right, because we only hold back on court power when it gets in the leaders way</quote>That's how kings are</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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