Current Events > US Marines to be deployed to Los Angeles in response to LA protests

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Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...

Shut the fuck up.

Can we all agree to block GFL so they can't gain access to political topics anymore, please?

Are you suggesting such escalation is impossible from the Fascists? Are you one of the people by chance who used to say we're all dooming when we said Trump would absolutely do Project 2025 shit?

Enclave posted...

Are you one of the people by chance who used to say we're all dooming when we said Trump would absolutely do Project 2025 shit?

Never in my life did I doubt that Trump would try to implement Project 2025, so drop the persecution complex.

EDIT: Oh fuck me, I wasn't even paying attention to which post you were replying to. Can't believe I'd ever see somebody defending GFL.

PeteyParker posted...

People are trying

https://www.threads.com/@marco.foster/post/DKrqh2CMtlK

I looked it up, and unfortunately the oath of enlistment includes "to follow the orders of the President of the United States of America" as well and defending the Constitution.

Takuya_Lee posted...

Or just sit there and do nothing. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they went and did the bare minimum to follow orders.

Newsom has been saying that of the 2,000 guardsmen sent, only 300 are ever deployed while the rest sit around in federal buildings waiting for orders that never come down. So yeah, Marines are going to be standing around with their thumb up their ass. All military members have apparently been sent there with no food, water, or cots. I guess they were just expected to hit up local restaurants and hotels while they're there?

DarthDemented posted...

I looked it up, and unfortunately the oath of enlistment includes "to follow the orders of the President of the United States of America" as well and defending the Constitution.

Newsom has been saying that of the 2,000 guardsmen sent, only 300 are ever deployed while the rest sit around in federal buildings waiting for orders that never come down. So yeah, Marines are going to be standing around with their thumb up their ass. All military members have apparently been sent there with no food, water, or cots. I guess they were just expected to hit up local restaurants and hotels while they're there?

Trumps only experience with sending the military anywhere is when he reroutes their flights to his hotels and forces them to stay there.

Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...

Never in my life did I doubt that Trump would try to implement Project 2025, so drop the persecution complex.

EDIT: Oh fuck me, I wasn't even paying attention to which post you were replying to. Can't believe I'd ever see somebody defending GFL.

I don't even know who they are, I'm just tired though of people thinking Trump won't actually try or succeed in doing awful shit.

BlackScythe0 posted...

Trumps only experience with sending the military anywhere is when he reroutes their flights to his hotels and forces them to stay there.

You're not wrong. I'm seeing Trump suckers on Facebook passing around a post about how Bush Sr sent in the military during the Rodeny King riots, while conveniently leaving out the fact that the Governor at the had requested, as per standard procedure. Bush didn't deploy unilaterally like Lord Cheeto has.

DarthDemented posted...

You're not wrong. I'm seeing Trump suckers on Facebook passing around a post about how Bush Sr sent in the military during the Rodeny King riots, while conveniently leaving out the fact that the Governor at the had requested, as per standard procedure. Bush didn't deploy unilaterally like Lord Cheeto has.

As I recall they were also actually rioting back then as well. Unlike now where they are simply protesting despite the efforts of the federal agitators to start shit.

Enclave posted...

I don't even know who they are, I'm just tired though of people thinking Trump won't actually try or succeed in doing awful shit.

Here's the thing about GFL.

He's not a serious user. They exclusively post to try to get people worried about the absolute worst case scenario. He's not someone who said Trump could possibly intact Martial Law. He's some who says entire states will be nuked with no pushback.

He's here to make everyone else's grounded worries seem absurd.

Enclave posted...

I don't even know who they are, I'm just tired though of people thinking Trump won't actually try or succeed in doing awful shit.

So you decided to get indignant about my post without checking which message I was replying to? That's not much of an improvement.

Zikten posted...

Won't the marines for sure be carrying live rounds? People are going to die

Trump is trying to Rittenhouse LA

Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...

So you decided to get indignant about my post without checking which message I was replying to? That's not much of an improvement.

Look, if you're that offended then just block me, I really don't care. I said my piece.

The good news is for the most part at least during the day people were just chilling and partying. People in the military are pretty much just regular ass people too with their own lives and families and they're away from that for literally no reason. So they'll probably just end up standing around doing nothing wondering when and what they'll eat after their shift while the press takes some pictures and tries to sensationalize shit and then it'll get too expensive for them to stay there and it'll all just quiet down. That's my hope anyway.

The night time is more precarious because historically a lot of protestors go home, you have fewer community leaders out there easing the tensions and you get people from out of the area who came to set cars on fire or loot a store try to do some shit and then the tensions flare up hard.

I'm hoping people stay out and the local leaders stay active and vocal and help keep things tame

Any news on the marines doing anything?

Metal_Gear_Raxis posted...

Any news on the marines doing anything?

There was a picture of them sleeping on the floor of some building because Trump did not prepare a place for them to wait and rest. No beds. Just a bunch of Marines laying around on a bare floor

I think they have not been ordered onto the streets yet

Zikten posted...

There was a picture of them sleeping on the floor of some building because Trump did not prepare a place for them to wait and rest. No beds. Just a bunch of Marines laying around on a bare floor

I think they have not been ordered onto the streets yet

Was that Marines or the CANG?

Either way based on LAPDs response they also had no coordination ahead of time for either of the units being deployed there.

. And then you get reports like this about how it's a really peaceful event https://prospect.org/justice/cries-defiance-songs-joy-los-angeles-ice-protests-immigration-raids/

Just looks like Donald played everything too sloppily and early, which hopefully turns out to be a good thing but we know he'll try again if it doesn't go his way this time

Zikten posted...

There was a picture of them sleeping on the floor of some building because Trump did not prepare a place for them to wait and rest. No beds. Just a bunch of Marines laying around on a bare floor

I think they have not been ordered onto the streets yet

Trump just needs to figure out how to structure the third amendment violation to seize hotels

From what I've read the law enforcement (the LAPD, not even counting the National Guard) vastly outnumbers the protesters now. Like this is a completely disproportional response at this point.

ED: the news stated the Marines haven't arrived yet.

Id imagine they'll be sending in the provocateurs in the next 48 hours

solosnake posted...

Id imagine they'll be sending in the provocateurs in the next 48 hours

There are reports that they're literally sending IRS employees to support ICE operations, threatening termination if they refuse.

https://bsky.app/profile/gwensnyder.bsky.social/post/3lr6gvbkkok2r

Here's an article from February talking about how they were planning to do it - https://apnews.com/article/armed-irs-agents-immigration-enforcement-0065756e7e44b0de2027d5a6f60e60a5

not sure if the memo has been posted

https://www.npr.org/2025/06/06/nx-s1-5425421/dhs-national-guard-immigration-enforcement

National Guard troops would be used in immigration-enforcement activities, including in "night operations and rural interdiction," as well as "guard duty and riot control" inside detention facilities, according to a memo from the Department of Homeland Security obtained by NPR.
DHS officials requested 20,000 National Guard troops three weeks ago, but this memo details what duties those troops will be asked to perform. The memo, dated May 9, from Andrew Whitaker, the executive secretary at DHS, says the department will need up to 3,500 Guard personnel for its requirement to "Attempt to Locate Fugitives." Another 2,500 Guard soldiers would be needed for detention support.

The memo says up to 10,000 troops would be needed for transportation support, including "intra-and inter state transport of detainees/unaccompanied alien children." And another 1,000 troops would be used for such duties as document translation and interview assistance.
The Pentagon has not yet approved the request.
DHS Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin told NPR: "DHS requested 20,000 National Guard members to help carry out the President's mandate from the American people to arrest and deport criminal illegal aliens. The Department of Homeland Security will use every tool and resource available to get criminal illegal aliens including gang members, murderers, pedophiles, and other violent criminals out of our country. The safety of American citizens comes first."

This would be the first time the National Guard has been asked to enforce an immigration crackdown within the United States, Sen. Jack Reed, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee, said at a hearing with Army officials Thursday.

Army Secretary Dan Driscoll told the committee that while the service is preparing to provide the forces, he had no details on what the troops would be doing, and said he would not deploy the Guard "for any unlawful purposes." There are a number of unanswered questions, officials say, including whether sending troops from one state to another is lawful.
Multiple U.S. officials told NPR the Pentagon is still working with state governors to determine which states will provide the troops, though they are expected to come mostly from Republican-led states. The troops could begin deploying as early as next month.
One U.S. official not authorized to speak publicly told NPR that in meetings between DHS and the Pentagon, DHS officials kept referring to "sanctuary cities," as among the necessary locations for immigration enforcement operations.

Last week, DHS published a list of "sanctuary jurisdictions" they said were obstructing federal immigration law enforcement efforts. But the department took the entire list down after several local leaders and the National Sheriffs Association raised concerns with the list and lack of consultation with local leaders.
DHS has spent the last several months bolstering the number of people tasked with enforcing federal immigration laws. Thousands of officers with other agencies including the FBI, Treasury, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives and the Drug Enforcement Administration have been detailed to assist ICE with interior enforcement.
The pressure on the agency is mounting. Earlier this year White House officials criticized the pace in which ICE was arresting those suspected of being in the country without legal status. That led to arrest quotas on field offices.
Those quotas recently increased to 3,000 arrests a day.
Over the course of this week, DHS said they have reached new daily arrest records with 2,368 arrests on Tuesday and 2,267 arrests on Wednesday. The department said the high numbers were due to increased enforcement operations and cooperation with local law enforcement.
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all coming from not enough arrests were being made

Anerica getting rid of that fascist piece of garbage can't come soon enough.

Zikten posted...

There was a picture of them sleeping on the floor of some building because Trump did not prepare a place for them to wait and rest. No beds. Just a bunch of Marines laying around on a bare floor

christ.

CyrusV posted...

Anerica getting rid of that fascist piece of garbage can't come soon enough.

It almost occurred...

Zikten posted...

There was a picture of them sleeping on the floor of some building because Trump did not prepare a place for them to wait and rest. No beds. Just a bunch of Marines laying around on a bare floor

I think they have not been ordered onto the streets yet

I find myself lacking sympathy at their situation. At least the ones who are well aware that they're being sent there with the intention of harming citizens.