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MacArrowny 06/08/25 7:42:52 PM #151:	HK is incredibly long compared to a lot of the genre. For an 'objective' comparison, all 2D Metroids and Igavanias are under 10 hours on how long to beat, while Hollow Knight is 27 hours. The Ori games are 9 and 12. Obviously all of them are much longer if you 100%, especially HK itself. Even The Lost Crown is only 17h on HLTB, and I'd consider it one of the longest games in the genre I've played. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. <cite>MacArrowny posted [p:985365079] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>HK is incredibly long compared to a lot of the genre. For an 'objective' comparison, all 2D Metroids and Igavanias are under 10 hours on how long to beat, while Hollow Knight is 27 hours. The Ori games are 9 and 12. Obviously all of them are much longer if you 100%, especially HK itself. Even The Lost Crown is only 17h on HLTB, and I'd consider it one of the longest games in the genre I've played.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
azuarc 06/08/25 10:29:55 PM #152:	UltimaterializerX posted... Afterimage doesnt feel that large even though I know its supposed to be. I made a 100% guide and it's like 12 hours long. I've beaten the game at least 20 times and optimized the route for a moderately skilled new player to follow. That's obviously longer than kev's (or my) HK run. MacArrowny posted... HK is incredibly long compared to a lot of the genre. For an 'objective' comparison, all 2D Metroids and Igavanias are under 10 hours on how long to beat, while Hollow Knight is 27 hours. The Ori games are 9 and 12. It's been ages since I've played a metroid and I've never played a 'vania, but using Ori 1 as a basis for how long a metroidvania should be isn't really appropriate, as most will agree it's a pretty short game. 9 is about what I took with a thorough playthrough, and I took a lot longer than 27 for HK as I bumbled around, getting "lost" in the world. The reason HK takes as long as it does is because of it's non-linearity. After the Mantis Claw, you can go in about 5 different directions, resulting in a first playthrough that potentially is like nobody else's. In addition to playing HK several times, I've also watched a ton of LPs because seeing someone else experience it -- in often a very different way -- is still worth the time. --- Only the exceptions can be exceptional. <cite>azuarc posted [p:985366760] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>UltimaterializerX posted... </cite><quote>Afterimage doesnt feel that large even though I know its supposed to be.</quote>I made a 100% guide and it's like 12 hours long. I've beaten the game at least 20 times and optimized the route for a moderately skilled new player to follow. That's obviously longer than kev's (or my) HK run.MacArrowny posted... </cite><quote>HK is incredibly long compared to a lot of the genre. For an 'objective' comparison, all 2D Metroids and Igavanias are under 10 hours on how long to beat, while Hollow Knight is 27 hours. The Ori games are 9 and 12.</quote>It's been ages since I've played a metroid and I've never played a 'vania, but using Ori 1 as a basis for how long a metroidvania should be isn't really appropriate, as most will agree it's a pretty short game. 9 is about what I took with a thorough playthrough, and I took a lot longer than 27 for HK as I bumbled around, getting "lost" in the world.The reason HK takes as long as it does is because of it's non-linearity. After the Mantis Claw, you can go in about 5 different directions, resulting in a first playthrough that potentially is like nobody else's. In addition to playing HK several times, I've also watched a ton of LPs because seeing someone else experience it -- in often a very different way -- is still worth the time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MZero 06/08/25 11:04:39 PM #153:	Ori isn't even a Metroidvania imhotbqh <cite>MZero posted [p:985367059] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>Ori isn't even a Metroidvania imhotbqh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacArrowny 06/08/25 11:09:52 PM #154:	You seem to be agreeing with me, azuarc... Most MVs are fairly short compared to HK. MZero posted... Ori isn't even a Metroidvania imhotbqh Now that's a ridiculous take. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. <cite>MacArrowny posted [p:985367108] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>You seem to be agreeing with me, azuarc... Most MVs are fairly short compared to HK.MZero posted... </cite><quote>Ori isn't even a Metroidvania imhotbqh</quote>Now that's a ridiculous take.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 06/08/25 11:19:20 PM #155:	It's not if you consider "metroidvania" to refer to Metroid-style Castlevanias, aka SotN-likes, which is objectively the correct use of the term. In which case Ori does not count since it's just Metroid-like, there's nothing Castlevania in it. I do think the more common usage is "any game that is like Metroid or like SotN" which just a really stupid and roundabout way to say Metroid-like. Actually, I think most people's true definition is "platformer where you can move left and not just right", for example Iconoclasts. --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:985367193] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>It's not if you consider "metroidvania" to refer to Metroid-style Castlevanias, aka SotN-likes, which is objectively the correct use of the term. In which case Ori does not count since it's just Metroid-like, there's nothing Castlevania in it.I do think the more common usage is "any game that is like Metroid or like SotN" which just a really stupid and roundabout way to say Metroid-like.Actually, I think most people's true definition is "platformer where you can move left and not just right", for example Iconoclasts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacArrowny 06/08/25 11:21:35 PM #156:	People have always used Metroidvania as a synonym for Metroidlike. You should've realized that by now. I'd definitely not classify Iconoclasts as one! foolm0r0n posted... It's not if you consider "metroidvania" to refer to Metroid-style Castlevanias, aka SotN-likes, which is objectively the correct use of the term. In which case Ori does not count since it's just Metroid-like, there's nothing Castlevania in it. In what way is Hollow Knight more of an MV than Ori 2? --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. <cite>MacArrowny posted [p:985367211] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>People have always used Metroidvania as a synonym for Metroidlike. You should've realized that by now. I'd definitely not classify Iconoclasts as one!foolm0r0n posted... </cite><quote>It's not if you consider "metroidvania" to refer to Metroid-style Castlevanias, aka SotN-likes, which is objectively the correct use of the term. In which case Ori does not count since it's just Metroid-like, there's nothing Castlevania in it.</quote>In what way is Hollow Knight more of an MV than Ori 2?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 06/08/25 11:28:46 PM #157:	This is why we need a clear descriptive unambiguous new name for the genre like search action --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:985367261] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>This is why we need a clear descriptive unambiguous new name for the genre like search action</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aecioo 06/08/25 11:33:44 PM #158:	Metroidvania, like every other genre, is a "you know it when you see it". There is no need to be super pedantic about it and saying something like Ori is not one is lol. --- http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lcb35gGx0t1qailr4o1_500.gif http://www.megavideo.com/?v=57N0YAEJ <cite>Aecioo posted [p:985367298] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>Metroidvania, like every other genre, is a "you know it when you see it". There is no need to be super pedantic about it and saying something like Ori is not one is lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 06/08/25 11:37:57 PM #159:	MacArrowny posted... In what way is Hollow Knight more of an MV than Ori 2? I haven't played HK enough to know exactly where it lies on the spectrum but the difference between where Ori 1 and 2 lie is pretty obvious MacArrowny posted... I'd definitely not classify Iconoclasts as one! Not up to you or me unfortunately! --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:985367330] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>MacArrowny posted... </cite><quote>In what way is Hollow Knight more of an MV than Ori 2?</quote>I haven't played HK enough to know exactly where it lies on the spectrum but the difference between where Ori 1 and 2 lie is pretty obviousMacArrowny posted... </cite><quote>I'd definitely not classify Iconoclasts as one!</quote>Not up to you or me unfortunately!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MZero 06/08/25 11:40:26 PM #160:	Aecioo posted... Metroidvania, like every other genre, is a "you know it when you see it". There is no need to be super pedantic about it and saying something like Ori is not one is lol. Totally agree! I played it and it never felt like a Metroidvania to me. Strictly talking about the first one btw haven't played the second yet <cite>MZero posted [p:985367357] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>Aecioo posted... </cite><quote>Metroidvania, like every other genre, is a "you know it when you see it". There is no need to be super pedantic about it and saying something like Ori is not one is lol.</quote>Totally agree! I played it and it never felt like a Metroidvania to me. Strictly talking about the first one btw haven't played the second yet</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
azuarc 06/09/25 12:00:04 AM #161:	Ori 2 - is a metroidvania for sure. Ori 1 - is close enough to be regarded as one, even if it could just be called a puzzle platformer, akin to Trine. Iconoclasts - is not really a metroidvania, but it does have some elements. HK - is indisputably a metroidvania foolm0 - either does not know what a metroidvania is or is taking a very wide berth on what a "Metroid-like" is. MacArrowny posted... You seem to be agreeing with me, azuarc... Most MVs are fairly short compared to HK. I'm arguing that the length is a big part of what makes Hollow Knight good. If the game ended when you reached City of Tears, with Soul Master as the final boss, it wouldn't be all that special. --- Only the exceptions can be exceptional. <cite>azuarc posted [p:985367509] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>Ori 2 - is a metroidvania for sure.Ori 1 - is close enough to be regarded as one, even if it could just be called a puzzle platformer, akin to Trine.Iconoclasts - is not really a metroidvania, but it does have some elements.HK - is indisputably a metroidvaniafoolm0 - either does not know what a metroidvania is or is taking a very wide berth on what a "Metroid-like" is.MacArrowny posted... </cite><quote>You seem to be agreeing with me, azuarc... Most MVs are fairly short compared to HK.</quote>I'm arguing that the length is a big part of what makes Hollow Knight good. If the game ended when you reached City of Tears, with Soul Master as the final boss, it wouldn't be all that special.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WazzupGenius00 06/09/25 12:05:25 AM #162:	Iconoclasts (and, similarly, Cave Story) are not metroidvanias no matter how many people say it because they heard their favorite Nintendo youtuber say it --- http://i.imgur.com/k0v0z3q.gif <cite>WazzupGenius00 posted [p:985367562] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>Iconoclasts (and, similarly, Cave Story) are not metroidvanias no matter how many people say it because they heard their favorite Nintendo youtuber say it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacArrowny 06/09/25 12:06:52 AM #163:	azuarc posted... I'm arguing that the length is a big part of what makes Hollow Knight good. If the game ended when you reached City of Tears, with Soul Master as the final boss, it wouldn't be all that special. Fair, and I'd agree with that. It's a game that mostly gets better as it goes along. Initially you just said it's not that long, though, which is not true. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. <cite>MacArrowny posted [p:985367573] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>azuarc posted... </cite><quote>I'm arguing that the length is a big part of what makes Hollow Knight good. If the game ended when you reached City of Tears, with Soul Master as the final boss, it wouldn't be all that special.</quote>Fair, and I'd agree with that. It's a game that mostly gets better as it goes along. Initially you just said it's not that long, though, which is not true.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
azuarc 06/09/25 12:09:34 AM #164:	...point to where I said that? --- Only the exceptions can be exceptional. <cite>azuarc posted [p:985367597] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>...point to where I said that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MacArrowny 06/09/25 12:14:12 AM #165:	azuarc posted... Of course, at its core, HK isn't really that long. --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. <cite>MacArrowny posted [p:985367641] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>azuarc posted... </cite><quote>Of course, at its core, HK isn't really that long.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 06/09/25 12:26:00 AM #166:	azuarc posted... foolm0 - either does not know what a metroidvania is or is taking a very wide berth on what a "Metroid-like" is. I mean it sounds like you haven't even played a Metroid game if you think Ori is more like Trine than Metroid --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:985367743] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>azuarc posted... </cite><quote>foolm0 - either does not know what a metroidvania is or is taking a very wide berth on what a "Metroid-like" is.</quote>I mean it sounds like you haven't even played a Metroid game if you think Ori is more like Trine than Metroid</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
azuarc 06/09/25 12:34:57 AM #167:	Mac: Oh, back on page 3. Okay, that's out of context. Pretend I italicized the word "that." It's longer that most games in the genre. But it seemed like people were ragging on it for its length, as though it's some 80+ hour JRPG. foolm0: I've played Metroid II and Super Metroid. Are there other Metroids that are more like Ori than that? Because if not, I believe my point stands. --- Only the exceptions can be exceptional. <cite>azuarc posted [p:985367807] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>Mac: Oh, back on page 3. Okay, that's out of context. Pretend I italicized the word "that." It's longer that most games in the genre. But it seemed like people were ragging on it for its length, as though it's some 80+ hour JRPG.foolm0: I've played Metroid II and Super Metroid. Are there other Metroids that are more like Ori than that? Because if not, I believe my point stands.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nanis23 06/09/25 1:26:39 AM #168:	I don't have any doubt the game will come out. I also think it's very likely that it will indeed come out in the next 6 months I just think that Team Cherry knew very well what they were doing when they uploaded the game files a mere days before Summer Game Fest, the very same event that tied Silksong to Microsoft Gamepass and promised us it will be a day 1 release (and somewhat promised a very very fake release window) It's just couldn't be only a coincidence. And we have been long enough in this hobby to know that more often than not, this is how shadow-drop games work - a lot of times "the surprise" is already gone If Team Cherry did it on purpose "to spit us", this is as disgusting as Capcom putting "bad boxart Megaman" in their fighting game when the community is desperate to a new game It's like when Nintendo announced Metroid Federation Force and how Blizzard announced Diablo Immortal "We know what you want, fuck you, have this instead" --- wololo <cite>Nanis23 posted [p:985368159] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>I don't have any doubt the game will come out.I also think it's very likely that it will indeed come out in the next 6 monthsI just think that Team Cherry knew very well what they were doing when they uploaded the game files a mere days before Summer Game Fest, the very same event that tied Silksong to Microsoft Gamepass and promised us it will be a day 1 release (and somewhat promised a very very fake release window)It's just couldn't be only a coincidence. And we have been long enough in this hobby to know that more often than not, this is how shadow-drop games work - a lot of times "the surprise" is already gone If Team Cherry did it on purpose "to spit us", this is as disgusting as Capcom putting "bad boxart Megaman" in their fighting game when the community is desperate to a new gameIt's like when Nintendo announced Metroid Federation Force and how Blizzard announced Diablo Immortal"We know what you want, fuck you, have this instead"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
azuarc 06/09/25 11:26:26 PM #169:	https://hollowknightsilksong.com/ just received an update. AFAIK it only updates the list of consoles the game will be on, but it's progress. --- Only the exceptions can be exceptional. <cite>azuarc posted [p:985380422] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>https://hollowknightsilksong.com/ just received an update. AFAIK it only updates the list of consoles the game will be on, but it's progress.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 06/09/25 11:55:59 PM #170:	Even with the dumb points-of-no-return, Ori is mostly structured with open exploration. --- "God Hand is the ultimate expression of the joy of humanity, specifically the punching part of the joy of humanity."-Shigeru Miyamoto <cite>paperwarior posted [p:985380665] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>Even with the dumb points-of-no-return, Ori is mostly structured with open exploration.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UF8 06/10/25 4:20:14 PM #172:	i'm far too lazy to read the arguments going on here properly but i figured i'd chime in on the "where should the line be drawn on what is and what isn't a metroidvania". to me, in the past, i was pretty strict about it being limited to games that involve a grid-based map with hidden rooms locked behind abilities and whatnot, but obviously games like HK challenged that assessment. so i can see a bit of a reason that some might question it, even if i don't agree on it. HK's approach honestly really resonated with me even more because I already likened the traditional metroid/igavania pseudo-objective of filling in all the map squares with cartography in the first place, so of course HK's method of straight up having to go to the cartographer npc to fill each area out was actually one of my favourite things about its design. also at this point it's sadly the popular view to even say some FPSes are metroidvanias (because of their similarity to metroid prime... i guess? which of course i completely disagree with but still) so people challenging HK on that front now is honestly kind of wild to me lol <cite>UF8 posted [p:985388544] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>i'm far too lazy to read the arguments going on here properly but i figured i'd chime in on the "where should the line be drawn on what is and what isn't a metroidvania". to me, in the past, i was pretty strict about it being limited to games that involve a grid-based map with hidden rooms locked behind abilities and whatnot, but obviously games like HK challenged that assessment. so i can see a bit of a reason that some might question it, even if i don't agree on it. HK's approach honestly really resonated with me even more because I already likened the traditional metroid/igavania pseudo-objective of filling in all the map squares with cartography in the first place, so of course HK's method of straight up having to go to the cartographer npc to fill each area out was actually one of my favourite things about its design.also at this point it's sadly the popular view to even say some FPSes are metroidvanias (because of their similarity to metroid prime... i guess? which of course i completely disagree with but still) so people challenging HK on that front now is honestly kind of wild to me lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
azuarc 06/10/25 8:06:26 PM #173:	The main problem with classifying a metroidvania is that some people are incredibly rigid about the definition, and insist that the game has to meet all of like 8 criteria. And then not everyone agrees on those 8 criteria. As someone said earlier in the thread, you know one when you see one. --- Only the exceptions can be exceptional. <cite>azuarc posted [p:985391199] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>The main problem with classifying a metroidvania is that some people are incredibly rigid about the definition, and insist that the game has to meet all of like 8 criteria. And then not everyone agrees on those 8 criteria. As someone said earlier in the thread, you know one when you see one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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azuarc 06/10/25 8:36:59 PM #175:	Because it makes it hard to have a conversation about, say, game recommendations. --- Only the exceptions can be exceptional. <cite>azuarc posted [p:985391534] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>Because it makes it hard to have a conversation about, say, game recommendations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0r0n 06/10/25 9:56:16 PM #177:	[game]-like is the optimal way to describe genres, if you really must. Although then you get situations like roguelike. Also, Dark Souls is a metroidvania --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:985392508] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>[game]-like is the optimal way to describe genres, if you really must. Although then you get situations like roguelike.Also, Dark Souls is a metroidvania</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
azuarc 06/10/25 11:04:07 PM #178:	I haven't played Dark Souls, but it always feels weird when people say that. Better than telling me that random metroidvania is a souls-like, though. --- Only the exceptions can be exceptional. <cite>azuarc posted [p:985393220] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>I haven't played Dark Souls, but it always feels weird when people say that. Better than telling me that random metroidvania is a souls-like, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Leonhart4 06/10/25 11:05:47 PM #179:	foolm0r0n posted... [game]-like is the optimal way to describe genres, if you really must. Although then you get situations like roguelike. Also, Dark Souls is a metroidvania Metroidvania-like --- https://imgur.com/WqDcNNq https://imgur.com/89Z5jrB <cite>Leonhart4 posted [p:985393232] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>foolm0r0n posted... </cite><quote>[game]-like is the optimal way to describe genres, if you really must. Although then you get situations like roguelike.Also, Dark Souls is a metroidvania</quote>Metroidvania-like</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 06/10/25 11:20:53 PM #180:	Leonhart4 posted... Metroidvania-like genuinely a better term than Metroid-like (which should really be Super Metroid-like anyway, and even then a lot of the games you'd end up using it for would be better described as SotN-likes) --- "You're childish. What are you getting? Are you getting strawberry? Ha! That's such a childish flavor, only children eat strawberry." <cite>Kenri posted [p:985393383] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>Leonhart4 posted... </cite><quote>Metroidvania-like</quote>genuinely a better term than Metroid-like (which should really be Super Metroid-like anyway, and even then a lot of the games you'd end up using it for would be better described as SotN-likes)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 06/11/25 1:40:51 AM #181:	azuarc posted... I haven't played Dark Souls, but it always feels weird when people say that. Better than telling me that random metroidvania is a souls-like, though. Bah, you don't even unlock new abilities that let you traverse better or interact with different parts of the environment. That's more important than being a sidescroller. --- "God Hand is the ultimate expression of the joy of humanity, specifically the punching part of the joy of humanity."-Shigeru Miyamoto <cite>paperwarior posted [p:985394423] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>azuarc posted... </cite><quote>I haven't played Dark Souls, but it always feels weird when people say that. Better than telling me that random metroidvania is a souls-like, though.</quote>Bah, you don't even unlock new abilities that let you traverse better or interact with different parts of the environment. That's more important than being a sidescroller.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kenri 06/11/25 2:03:06 AM #182:	I mean you kinda do. You get the fuckin uhhh thing that lets you walk on lava? anyway yeah dark souls isn't a metroidvania but there's definitely some of the same DNA there --- "You're childish. What are you getting? Are you getting strawberry? Ha! That's such a childish flavor, only children eat strawberry." <cite>Kenri posted [p:985394525] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>I mean you kinda do. You get the fuckin uhhh thing that lets you walk on lava?anyway yeah dark souls isn't a metroidvania but there's definitely some of the same DNA there</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
paperwarior 06/11/25 2:23:22 AM #183:	Oh yeah, that is a thing. I don't know, the majority of that shared DNA seems to come from the concept of unguided exploration, which is fairly general. --- "God Hand is the ultimate expression of the joy of humanity, specifically the punching part of the joy of humanity."-Shigeru Miyamoto <cite>paperwarior posted [p:985394606] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>Oh yeah, that is a thing. I don't know, the majority of that shared DNA seems to come from the concept of unguided exploration, which is fairly general.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
foolm0r0n 06/11/25 10:28:36 AM #184:	You also get that item that unlocks all the yellow doors. Plus there's bats and rats which makes it SotN-like. --- _foolmo_ he says listen to my story this maybe are last chance <cite>foolm0r0n posted [p:985397434] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>You also get that item that unlocks all the yellow doors. Plus there's bats and rats which makes it SotN-like.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Colegreen_c12 06/11/25 10:39:09 AM #185:	With that criteria Pokmon is a metroidvania <cite>Colegreen_c12 posted [p:985397556] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>With that criteria Pokmon is a metroidvania</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Seanchan 06/11/25 12:40:53 PM #186:	Monster Sanctuary is Pokmon crossed with Metroidvania --- "That was unnecessarily dramatic". - NY Mets motto (courtesy of InnerTubeHero) Congratulations to azuarc, the guru of gurus and winner of GotD 2020! <cite>Seanchan posted [p:985399060] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>Monster Sanctuary is Pokmon crossed with Metroidvania</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MZero 06/11/25 1:05:58 PM #187:	It's also excellent, everyone should play Monster Sanctuary <cite>MZero posted [p:985399461] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>It's also excellent, everyone should play Monster Sanctuary</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UF8 06/12/25 2:16:38 AM #188:	azuarc posted... I haven't played Dark Souls, but it always feels weird when people say that. Better than telling me that random metroidvania is a souls-like, though. in all fairness, HK sorta is a soulslike at the same time lmao <cite>UF8 posted [p:985407790] in Silksong n... [t:80991991]...</cite> <quote>azuarc posted... </cite><quote>I haven't played Dark Souls, but it always feels weird when people say that. Better than telling me that random metroidvania is a souls-like, though.</quote>in all fairness, HK sorta is a soulslike at the same time lmao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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